NationStates Jolt Archive

I wish something great would hurry up and happen. The world is soooo boring the last week or so. No interesting news out of DC, or no wars killing millions, or anything worth talking about. Why has everything slowed down so much?!

Put a staple in your ass. You'll be amazed at how clear your mind will be afterwards.

It's as if you haven't lived until you've put a nice metal gripper in your ripper.

Maybe because Christmas season started so thats the new focus.

I wish something great would hurry up and happen. The world is soooo boring the last week or so. No interesting news out of DC, or no wars killing millions, or anything worth talking about. Why has everything slowed down so much?!

Declare yourself as a Messiah.

I wish something great would hurry up and happen. The world is soooo boring the last week or so. No interesting news out of DC, or no wars killing millions, or anything worth talking about. Why has everything slowed down so much?!

Quebec is quite interesting.

Declare yourself as a Messiah.

Does that mean you will worship me? ;)

Quebec is quite interesting.

I thought so too. If Quebec seperates at some point perhaps it'll break the taboo on secession we have in North America.

Don't worry, I'm sure the fundies will be ranting and raving about the "War on Christmas" soon.

I thought so too. If Quebec seperates at some point perhaps it'll break the taboo on secession we have in North America.

That would be absolutely terrible for minority parties in the Southern states, though. Ugh.

Does that mean you will worship me? ;)

No, but go to a mental institution and you'll find some followers.

"It's better to be a dog in a peaceful time than be a man in a chaotic period."

Boredom in this case is quite good, IMHO.

"May you live in interesting times"... ;)

That would be absolutely terrible for minority parties in the Southern states, though. Ugh.

That's probably true. But at least then they wouldn't be capable of invading whichever country pisses them off at the moment.

I thought so too. If Quebec seperates at some point perhaps it'll break the taboo on secession we have in North America.

On that note....if the people of a state in the US expressed their will to secede from the Union, and the state legislature passed an act of secession, what do you think would happen?

Obviously SCOTUS would strike it down, but the state is unlikely to care. Would the US send in a military force? Hardly a good move for a nation meant to be a beacon of democracy. Who all would recognise the state's independence? South American?

"May you live in interesting times"... ;)

http://www.lspace.org/ftp/images/bookcovers/uk/interesting-times-1.jpg

I wish something great would hurry up and happen. The world is soooo boring the last week or so. No interesting news out of DC, or no wars killing millions, or anything worth talking about. Why has everything slowed down so much?!

...it's the deep breath before the plunge.[/Gandalf]

On that note....if the people of a state in the US expressed their will to secede from the Union, and the state legislature passed an act of secession, what do you think would happen?

Obviously SCOTUS would strike it down, but the state is unlikely to care. Would the US send in a military force? Hardly a good move for a nation meant to be a beacon of democracy. Who all would recognise the state's independence? South American?

I think it depends entirely on the circumstances of that secession. I don't think that in these days of 24 hour news Americans would stand for a military subjugation of a state who was attempting to leave.

Also, it's not all that certain that the Supreme Court would strike it down. Texas v. White stated :

The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States.

However, it can be said that this decision wasn't exactly correct. All of the Supreme Court Justices at the time were appointed by Lincoln, and were under pressure to legitimize the war that had just ended.

Either way, at the moment there aren't any really strong secessionist movements, but who knows what'll happen in the near future. Maybe California will someday decide they've outgrown the Union and want to go do their own thing. They're already bigger than Canada (by population).

Maybe California will someday decide they've outgrown the Union and want to go do their own thing. They're already bigger than Canada (by population).

And GDP.

I wish something great would hurry up and happen. The world is soooo boring the last week or so. No interesting news out of DC, or no wars killing millions, or anything worth talking about. Why has everything slowed down so much?!

Just an idea, but maybe you should try looking at non-US news sources for your information.
The last week (and this just off the top of my head):
Continued violence esculation in Iraq
Rioting in Tonga leaving several people dead
Fears of yet another coup in Fiji
Darfur's still a violent shithole
Venezulan elections looming
Russian govt alledged to have assasinated a leading critic in London by spiking his food with deadly radioactive material
Mexican elections a farce
Aussies kick England's butt in the 1st Ashes test


yep. nothing happening around the world. :rolleyes:

In the meantime, here's some Greek mythology (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvk1OSrxu30).

I thought so too. If Quebec seperates at some point perhaps it'll break the taboo on secession we have in North America.

If Quebec seperates from Canada, well... we'll just invade, annex them, impose martial law for 10 years and let the buggers know we beat them down hard.

Then, we'll ask them if they'd like to do it again.

No offense, but as far as I'm concerned, the Bloc Quebecois is a treasonous party that shouldn't be allowed in Federal Politics as it runs entriely counter to the object of a Federal Government... which is to keep the country in one peice...

I hope you got your wish, look what just happened in Fiji!:(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/fijicoup.shtml (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12006531&postcount=94)

If Quebec seperates from Canada, well... we'll just invade, annex them, impose martial law for 10 years and let the buggers know we beat them down hard.

I doubt Canada would do that. With the Clarity Act the Canadian Parliament already stated that they'd recognize secession under certain circumstances. And even if it didn't meet those circumstances I think Canadians are civilized enough that they wouldn't do that.

No offense, but as far as I'm concerned, the Bloc Quebecois is a treasonous party that shouldn't be allowed in Federal Politics as it runs entriely counter to the object of a Federal Government... which is to keep the country in one peice...

The object of the US government is to fulfill certain tated obligations. It's a means, not an end. I don't know enough about Canadian governmental history to have any idea if it's the same way.

I hope you got your wish, look what just happened in Fiji!:(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/fijicoup.shtml (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12006531&postcount=94)
Link doesn't work. Just keeps sending me to a weird pron site.

Link doesn't work. Just keeps sending me to a weird pron site.

Who is a D'Umbarse anyways?

Who is a D'Umbarse anyways?

D'Umbarse was the President of Fiji who was just deposed in a coup.

Didn't you read the article?

My week has been exciting and such. You just have a boring "life".

I hope you got your wish, look what just happened in Fiji!:(
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/fijicoup.shtml (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12006531&postcount=94)

That's hot.

The object of the US government is to fulfill certain tated obligations. It's a means, not an end. I don't know enough about Canadian governmental history to have any idea if it's the same way.

The Bloc Quebecois stated goal is for Quebec to seperate, while expecting Canada to continue to footing the social programs, police, military, as well as to take care of the Province's debt.

Now, would you willingly elect a Political party to Federal Power when it's stated objective is to tear the country in two? Rather than attempting to seperate- which they would be unable to survive economically, it would be better if they tried to find ways with which to co-exist better within the framework of the country it's currently part of. We have tried to appease them on every issue they've brought up... to the point of allowing them to be unilingual while the rest of Canada has to be bilingual. Quebec has language laws that allow for businesses to be fined if they have English on their signs, etc.

Now... is this the type of Political Party you want in charge of a country?

The Bloc Quebecois stated goal is for Quebec to seperate, while expecting Canada to continue to footing the social programs, police, military, as well as to take care of the Province's debt.

I keep hearing this, but I can't find anything recent about it. I thought the idea of sovereignty association had died with the '95 referendum.

Now, would you willingly elect a Political party to Federal Power when it's stated objective is to tear the country in two?

Yes I would. In fact, I'd vote for a party whose stated objective was to tear the country into 50 if I thought the US Federal government had exceeded it's mandate. Which I often think it has.

Rather than attempting to seperate- which they would be unable to survive economically, it would be better if they tried to find ways with which to co-exist better within the framework of the country it's currently part of.

Agreed, but it doesn't seem to be working that way.

I keep hearing this "unable to survive economically" thing, but I don't believe it. It's the same argument that was given to the Baltic states when they seceded from the USSR. It wasn't true then, and I don't think it's true now.

We have tried to appease them on every issue they've brought up... to the point of allowing them to be unilingual while the rest of Canada has to be bilingual. Quebec has language laws that allow for businesses to be fined if they have English on their signs, etc.

Why is it so important to keep them in Canada if it's so troublesome?

Now... is this the type of Political Party you want in charge of a country?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the the Bloc doesn't want to be in charge of any country.

Just an idea, but maybe you should try looking at non-US news sources for your information.
The last week (and this just off the top of my head):
Continued violence esculation in Iraq
Rioting in Tonga leaving several people dead
Fears of yet another coup in Fiji
Darfur's still a violent shithole
Venezulan elections looming
Russian govt alledged to have assasinated a leading critic in London by spiking his food with deadly radioactive material
Mexican elections a farce
Aussies kick England's butt in the 1st Ashes test


yep. nothing happening around the world. :rolleyes:
The only things of notable interest in this post (apart from Darfur, which is an aging issue, though still relevant) are the assassination via radiation and your terrible spelling.
In the meantime, here's some Greek mythology (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvk1OSrxu30).
Someone always posts these when I don't have access to sound.>.<
The Bloc Quebecois stated goal is for Quebec to seperate, while expecting Canada to continue to footing the social programs, police, military, as well as to take care of the Province's debt.

Now, would you willingly elect a Political party to Federal Power when it's stated objective is to tear the country in two? Rather than attempting to seperate- which they would be unable to survive economically, it would be better if they tried to find ways with which to co-exist better within the framework of the country it's currently part of. We have tried to appease them on every issue they've brought up... to the point of allowing them to be unilingual while the rest of Canada has to be bilingual. Quebec has language laws that allow for businesses to be fined if they have English on their signs, etc.

Now... is this the type of Political Party you want in charge of a country?

Bah! It's that sort of appeasement that makes them think they can get away with anything. Did Canadia learn anything from the British and French mistakes leading up to World War II?

Does that mean you will worship me? ;)
No, but we might put you up to see how long you'll last... http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/crucified.gif (I hope you know I'm just joking!)

No, but we might put you up to see how long you'll last... http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/crucified.gif (I hope you know I'm just joking!)

I'll make the nails. Damnit! I've always wanted to see for myself how long someone would last. Now I'll have to find a new subject....

Also kidding!

You're horrible people.

You're horrible people.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I am. That was never in dispute.

You're horrible people.
You know that there's always enough wood for another cross, right? (And white is your friend!)

You know that there's always enough wood for another cross, right? (And white is your friend!)

We could even use some for nails if we run out of iron. Indeed.

I wish something great would hurry up and happen. The world is soooo boring the last week or so. No interesting news out of DC, or no wars killing millions, or anything worth talking about. Why has everything slowed down so much?!

What do you mean? The death toll in Iraq is skyrocketing, and some are urging now to call it finally a civil war. Jon Stewart was quite clear on that the past couple of days while poking fun at that reporter guy who said that "it is official" or some crap like that. As if anyone with half a brain couldn't tell it was a civil war already...

I know what Zilam means, in truth. Something new, interesting and slightly unique, not along the lines of; "muslims blow each other up", "americans die in Iraq", "dirty darkies commit (insert fearmongering crime here", or "naural disaster in (pick your shithole)".

I know what Zilam means, in truth. Something new, interesting and slightly unique, not along the lines of; "muslims blow each other up", "americans die in Iraq", "dirty darkies commit (insert fearmongering crime here", or "naural disaster in (pick your shithole)".

New? Affairs of the world rarely come up with anything new, surprising, any description you want. What do you want? Osama bin Laden coming out of his cave and apologizing for his past acts? That would certainly be news...

But world affairs are usually predictable enough. People follow the same patterns, can't always get a surprise like that coup in Thailand was.

Osama bin Laden coming out of his cave and apologizing for his past acts? That would certainly be news...
Which begs the question - would the US Christians forgive him like their faith demands?

Which begs the question - would the US Christians forgive him like their faith demands?

Doubtful. I think the "eye for an eye" Christians outnumber the "forgive and forget" Christians.

Doubtful. I think the "eye for an eye" Christians outnumber the "forgive and forget" Christians.
But the "eye for an eye" is OT and not exactly what Jesus had in mind, eh? Besides - forgiving is one thing, forgetting something completely different!

I forgive, but I never forget.

The only things of notable interest in this post (apart from Darfur, which is an aging issue, though still relevant) are the assassination via radiation and your terrible spelling.
Oh gosh. So Sorry. I do apologise for having missed out an 's' from one word out of a 100+ word posting. Truly this doth prove how dreadful and terrible my spelling ability is.



pedantic twit.

D'Umbarse was the President of Fiji who was just deposed in a coup.

Didn't you read the article?

God damn, you're correct. My apologies go out to the D'Umbarse family.

But the "eye for an eye" is OT and not exactly what Jesus had in mind, eh? Besides - forgiving is one thing, forgetting something completely different!

I forgive, but I never forget.

I like forgiving better than "eye for an eye". Dude, it's over. Forget it and move on.

Life is too short for this "eye for an eye" crap.

Which begs the question - would the US Christians forgive him like their faith demands?


I would. Which I know i'd be deemed a terrorist supporter, but then I suppose they'd have to put Jesus in GITMO too ;)

I would. Which I know i'd be deemed a terrorist supporter, but then I suppose they'd have to put Jesus in GITMO too ;)

To the Romans, Jesus was a terrorist.

Well, it is not just Quebec that is making rumblings. The Scottish National Party is doing very well in the polls for the upcoming Scottish Parliament election in 2007. If they are in government, they'll call a referendum for Scottish independence. At this stage in the polls, they would win that as well, so next year might begin a chain reaction leading to the dissolution of the United Kingdom. That is pretty interesting.

Which begs the question - would the US Christians forgive him like their faith demands?
Nope.
Oh gosh. So Sorry. I do apologise for having missed out an 's' from one word out of a 100+ word posting. Truly this doth prove how dreadful and terrible my spelling ability is.



pedantic twit.
At least I've now definitely proven that I could be at least moderately successful as a troll.:D
I like forgiving better than "eye for an eye". Dude, it's over. Forget it and move on.

Life is too short for this "eye for an eye" crap.

That has nothing to do with the "eye for an eye" philosophy. It's simply foolish to forget transgressors. They'll probably try to pull crap later. It's what they do. As a habit. Sometimes purely out of spite.

Nope.
That's what I thought.

That's what I thought.

Partly why I never much cared for Christians. At least not here. Or maybe it's the people. Always out to beat the next guy down just to make them feel a little superior in comparison. All the better if they have revenge or ideological difference, let alone both, as a pretext. Talk about your "holier than thou" complexes. Sheesh.

Partly why I never much cared for Christians. At least not here. Or maybe it's the people. Always out to beat the next guy down just to make them feel a little superior in comparison. All the better if they have revenge or ideological difference, let alone both, as a pretext. Talk about your "holier than thou" complexes. Sheesh.

Those kinds of people love to latch on to things that make them feel superior. I imagine if they weren't Christian, they'd latch on to another belief.

Partly why I never much cared for Christians. At least not here. Or maybe it's the people. Always out to beat the next guy down just to make them feel a little superior in comparison. All the better if they have revenge or ideological difference, let alone both, as a pretext.
Yes, oh so right.
Talk about your "holier than thou" complexes. Sheesh.
:eek: But I don't have any "holier than thou" complexes! :( (;))

Those kinds of people love to latch on to things that make them feel superior. I imagine if they weren't Christian, they'd latch on to another belief.
Of course. It's what they do. They're too weak to stand on their own, so they cling to a crutch. It's the fundamental idea of slave moralities.
Yes, oh so right.

:eek: But I don't have any "holier than thou" complexes! :( (;))

Because you know you can't possibly be holier than I.:p