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Parallel British Government

Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:21
Inspired by Rhaomi, and Ksomethingorther (IM SORRY! :( ) I have decided to start a Parallel British Government
With me as Prime Minister of course :D

Monarch: Jello Biafra
Prime Minister: QB
Deputy PM:
Chancellor of the Exchequer: Aequilibritas
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs: New Burmesia
Home Secretary: Nadkor
Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government :
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport: ConscribedComradeship
Secretary of State for Defence: Purple Android
Secretary of State for Education and Skills: Aronnax
Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs: Rhursbourg
(My god theres a lot.... :rolleyes: )
Secretary of State for Health:
Secretary of State for International Development:
Secretary of State for Northern Ireland: New New Lofeta
Secretary of State for Scotland: Chumblywumbly
Secretary of State for Wales:
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions:
Secretary of State for Transport: Ollieland

Ambassador to the US:
Ambassador to France:
Ambassador to Germany: Caruut
Ambassador to Canada:Ladamesansmerci
Ambassador to Eire: Gorias
Ambassador to Iceland: Yootopia
Ambassador to Tuvalu: New Stalinberg

(Say if you wanna be ambassador for somewhere else)

All on a first come first serve basis.
Let the race begin! *fires a pistol in the air*
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 21:23
Ambassador for culture, media and sport... *shuts down ITV* *shoots Rupert Murdoch* *cancels Olympic Games*
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:23
Ambassador for culture, media and sport... *shuts down ITV* *shoots Rupert Murdoch*

Fair enough


*cancels Olympic Games*

You cant do that!!

oh wait, yes you can, but I wont let you so nehh
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 21:24
Fair enough


You cant do that!!

*peruses law books* I think you'll find I can.
Nadkor
27-11-2006, 21:25
Home Secretary.
Yootopia
27-11-2006, 21:29
Ambassador to Iceland, please.
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 21:30
Ambassador to Iceland, please.

Bitter about the cod?
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:33
I'll go for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, please...
Ladamesansmerci
27-11-2006, 21:34
Ambassador to Canada, please.
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 21:35
I'm the Queen! Where's my crown?
Yootopia
27-11-2006, 21:35
Bitter about the cod?
No, I just like free electricity, hot water and indeed mackerel.
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:36
All done :)
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:37
I'm the Queen! Where's my crown?
Not in your damned colonial republic! [/sarcasm]
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:38
I'm the Queen! Where's my crown?

Hm... what does everyone else say, should there be a queen?
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 21:38
Hm... what does everyone else say, should there be a queen?Well, it is a British government thread...
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:39
All done :)
Ta!
LiberationFrequency
27-11-2006, 21:39
I'm the Queen! Where's my crown?

In this parallel gov, theres a bloody revolution and you have your head chopped off.
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:39
Hm... what does everyone else say, should there be a queen?
We can declare a republic after we form the government?
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:40
Well, it is a British government thread...

But the Queen aint part of the Government. Its her government. although she can do eff all :)
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 21:40
Hm... what does everyone else say, should there be a queen?

ALL HAIL QUEEN JELLO BIAFRA!
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 21:41
But the Queen aint part of the Government. Its her government. although she can do eff all :)Isn't she Head of State?
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:41
ALL HAIL QUEEN JELLO BIAFRA!
Didn't we already have a NS royalty?
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:41
In this parallel gov, theres a bloody revolution and you have your head chopped off.

We cant do that, it takes away all britishness. :eek:
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:42
Isn't she Head of State?

Only in name
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:42
In fact, considering we do already have a NS royalty, why can't they also be UK royalty in personal union?
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 21:43
Only in nameThen who serves the Head of State function? And is that because she's not supposed to serve the function, or is it that she is physically incapable of doing so?
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:46
Then who serves the Head of State function? And is that because she's not supposed to serve the function, or is it that she is physically incapable of doing so?

Its just that over the years, the Monarchy's power has been stripped away. All the Queen does is go and visit all the countries she is head of state of. So everyone in the commonwealth. The PM is the practical HoS, but hes not called that
Gorias
27-11-2006, 21:48
dibs Ambassador to Eire.
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:51
In fact, considering we do already have a NS royalty, why can't they also be UK royalty in personal union?

Who's the NS Royalty?
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:51
Its just that over the years, the Monarchy's power has been stripped away. All the Queen does is go and visit all the countries she is head of state of. So everyone in the commonwealth. The PM is the practical HoS, but hes not called that
PM is head of government, but not the state.
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 21:51
Who's the NS Royalty?
There was a thread a while back.
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:52
PM is head of government, but not the state.

yeah, i knew it was somethin like that
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 21:52
In fact, considering we do already have a NS royalty, why can't they also be UK royalty in personal union?:eek: Trying to depose me? <Hides key to Tower of London cell in brassiere.> Well, I suppose if I must, I'll go quietly. (Who would fondle the queen's bosoms?

Its just that over the years, the Monarchy's power has been stripped away. All the Queen does is go and visit all the countries she is head of state of. So everyone in the commonwealth. The PM is the practical HoS, but hes not called thatDoesn't she also preside over certain ceremonies?
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:52
There was a thread a while back.

ah ok *goes for a look*
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:53
Doesn't she also preside over certain ceremonies?

Probably :p
Nadkor
27-11-2006, 21:53
But the Queen aint part of the Government. Its her government. although she can do eff all :)

Erm...the Queen is the most important component of government. Without her there would be no government.
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 21:55
Probably :p

She appointed you godammit and now you stab her in the back? That's gratitude, you dirty republican. :eek:
Quantum Bonus
27-11-2006, 21:56
She appointed you godammit and now you stab her in the back? That's gratitude, you dirty republican. :eek:

Im not tryin to get rid of her... :eek: I was only sayin
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 21:59
Im not tryin to get rid of her... :eek: I was only sayin

I demand that the government of Her Majesty Queen Jello Biafra recognize her with immediate effect!
Unstable Addicts
27-11-2006, 22:10
ill take defence sec.
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 22:20
Oh, by the way, it was Kyronea who came up with the idea of the Parallel U.S. Government.
ConscribedComradeship
27-11-2006, 22:43
Oh.. and I demand a peerage to cushion my inevitable fall from power.
Jello Biafra
27-11-2006, 22:46
Upon being declared Queen, my first Royal Order shall be to Knight ConscribedComradeship. You shall be Sir ConscribedComradeship.
New Burmesia
27-11-2006, 23:10
I demand that the government of Her Majesty Queen Jello Biafra recognize her with immediate effect!
I concur. Huzzah!
Rhursbourg
27-11-2006, 23:12
I will take Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Chumblywumbly
27-11-2006, 23:38
I’d happily become Secretary of State for Scotland.
Losing It Big TIme
28-11-2006, 04:08
London and Brimingham: it's like spot the white man according to my dad.

To quote the OP of this thread.

Quite glad that I'm British and Rhaomi's US government rather than this guy's government to be honest...
Infinite Revolution
28-11-2006, 04:10
secretary of state for scotland, please

edit: bugger, missed it.

edit: right, i'm sure there's a minister responsible for overseas territories and protectorates, i'll take that.
New Stalinberg
28-11-2006, 04:15
Can I be Ambasador to Tuvulu?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvalu
Losing It Big TIme
28-11-2006, 04:19
One more time I'd like to point out the racist/racialist tendencies of the Prime Minister of this post and encourage any Brits offended by said tendencies to apply for posts in the US government:

Not Birmingham, thats got the highest level of immigrants in the UK, 2nd only to London. In both cities its 'spot the white man'. from what my dad told me when he went there. 5 times.
Nadkor
28-11-2006, 04:23
One more time I'd like to point out the racist/racialist tendencies of the Prime Minister of this post and encourage any Brits offended by said tendencies to apply for posts in the US government:

Good for you, now cheerio.
Losing It Big TIme
28-11-2006, 04:26
Good for you, now cheerio.

Ooooo. Sarky. And cheerio why? I wouldn't be a part of an imaginary government led by someone who would actually use the term 'spot the white man'.

Anyhoo, cheerio to you too.
Nadkor
28-11-2006, 04:28
Ooooo. Sarky. And cheerio why? I wouldn't be a part of an imaginary government led by someone who would actually use the term 'spot the white man'.

Anyhoo, cheerio to you too.

Cheerio because I'm the Home Sec and I say so :p
Losing It Big TIme
28-11-2006, 04:29
Cheerio because I'm the Home Sec and I say so :p

Coolio. Hope you keep him in line. :D
Gorias
28-11-2006, 09:56
Coolio. Hope you keep him in line. :D

i find that sentance suspicious......watching you.
Purple Android
28-11-2006, 16:37
Secretary for defence please :D
Aequilibritas
28-11-2006, 17:43
I'll take Chancellor?!
Quantum Bonus
28-11-2006, 18:18
all done :D
ConscribedComradeship
28-11-2006, 18:37
all done :D

As a faithful subject of Queen Jello Biafra, I humbly request her recognition.
Quantum Bonus
28-11-2006, 19:06
very well, but under british law, it is a purely ceremonial role ;)
ConscribedComradeship
28-11-2006, 20:04
very well, but under british law, it is a purely ceremonial role ;)

Huzzah! Now that Parliament can function, what is the first issue before us?
Chumblywumbly
28-11-2006, 20:08
Huzzah! Now that Parliament can function, what is the first issue before us?
The correct spelling of Chumblywumbly in the OP. :p

Seriously though.... let’s legislate!
Quantum Bonus
28-11-2006, 20:29
The correct spelling of Chumblywumbly in the OP. :p

Sorry bout that *fixed*


Seriously though... lets legislate!

But we still need Deputy PM at least
Purple Android
28-11-2006, 21:14
Huzzah! Now that Parliament can function, what is the first issue before us?

Write a constitution?:p
Chumblywumbly
28-11-2006, 22:50
Sorry bout that *fixed*
Thank you, Prime Minister. That’s £400,000 of stationary for the Scotland Office down the tube....

But we still need Deputy PM at least
Could this post not be filled by one of the existing Secretaries of State, until a suitable candidate applied? I might humbly add that the current R/L Secretary of State for Scotland is also the Secretary of State for Transport, due to the Scottish Executive relieving him of many duties. I would happily serve as Deputy PM, unless there are any objections? The post could be removed from me by the PM if a more suitable candidate emerged.

Write a constitution?
The Rt. Hon. member for Purple Android has a good point. But will we break from tradition and actually write a constitution?
Aequilibritas
28-11-2006, 23:14
:Could this post not be filled by one of the existing Secretaries of State, until a suitable candidate applied? I might humbly add that the current R/L Secretary of State for Scotland is also the Secretary of State for Transport, due to the Scottish Executive relieving him of many duties. I would happily serve as Deputy PM, unless there are any objections?

I, for one, don't see why not. The post of deputy PM doesn't seem to involve much beyond shagging ones secretary, playing croquet and answering the phone while the PM's on holiday. I know I was planning on fulfilling my role as Chancellor (for which I thank you, OP) around my existing work commitments!

:D
Quantum Bonus
28-11-2006, 23:22
Could this post not be filled by one of the existing Secretaries of State, until a suitable candidate applied? I might humbly add that the current R/L Secretary of State for Scotland is also the Secretary of State for Transport, due to the Scottish Executive relieving him of many duties. I would happily serve as Deputy PM, unless there are any objections? The post could be removed from me by the PM if a more suitable candidate emerged.


yeah ok then. I appoint you sah, as my deputy. Now dont screw it up :p


The Rt. Hon. member for Purple Android has a good point. But will we break from tradition and actually write a constitution?

Why not? Any and all ideas are welcome. as long as it means i get to stay in power for the rest of my term :p
Chumblywumbly
28-11-2006, 23:23
The post of deputy PM doesn’t seem to involve much beyond shagging ones secretary, playing croquet and answering the phone while the PM’s on holiday.
I think I could just about manage that. :p
Chumblywumbly
28-11-2006, 23:28
Why not? Any and all ideas are welcome. as long as it means i get to stay in power for the rest of my term :p
Okely. Might as well start with the separation of powers (if any), and the role of the PM. Though we already have an extensive cabinet government in place.....
Aequilibritas
28-11-2006, 23:46
If we're going to have a second chamber (I think we should) I think it should be democratically elected.

Either that, or we could just appoint a couple of hundred of the more amusing inmates of the countrys' asylums?
Chumblywumbly
28-11-2006, 23:53
If we’re going to have a second chamber (I think we should) I think it should be democratically elected.

Either that, or we could just appoint a couple of hundred of the more amusing inmates of the countrys’ asylums?
I’d plump for a democratically elected second chamber. Also, I’d try and remove the Lord Chancellor’s Executive functions, primarily the appointment of judges. Too close a position to the PM to be dabbling in judicial affairs.
Jello Biafra
29-11-2006, 12:57
Wonderful. As my first order of business, I knight thee, ConscribedComradeship, and also thee, New Burmesia, in recognition of your honorable achievements.
Ifreann
29-11-2006, 13:00
NSG Parliament >this also
*flees from security and aggressive politicians*
Aequilibritas
29-11-2006, 20:50
I’d plump for a democratically elected second chamber. Also, I’d try and remove the Lord Chancellor’s Executive functions, primarily the appointment of judges. Too close a position to the PM to be dabbling in judicial affairs.

Seconded.
Rhursbourg
29-11-2006, 22:49
I Would like to know if we are going to appoint a privvy Council
Ollieland
29-11-2006, 23:26
I see you don't have a Secretary of State for Transport. Any chance I could take that one?
Quantum Bonus
30-11-2006, 21:24
Wonderful. As my first order of business, I knight thee, ConscribedComradeship, and also thee, New Burmesia, in recognition of your honorable achievements.

*ahem* :rolleyes:

I let you have that office you know... ;)
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 21:26
One more time I'd like to point out the racist/racialist tendencies of the Prime Minister of this post and encourage any Brits offended by said tendencies to apply for posts in the US government:

Why would a Brit join the US government?
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 21:29
If we're going to have a second chamber (I think we should) I think it should be democratically elected.

Either that, or we could just appoint a couple of hundred of the more amusing inmates of the countrys' asylums?

We could put the inmates up for election and pass The Parliament Acts again to stop them overruling us :D
Purple Android
30-11-2006, 21:30
The Rt. Hon. member for Purple Android has a good point. But will we break from tradition and actually write a constitution?

Yes. Who wants to write it?
Caruut
30-11-2006, 21:30
I wanna be Ammbassador to Germany!
New Burmesia
30-11-2006, 21:52
Wonderful. As my first order of business, I knight thee, ConscribedComradeship, and also thee, New Burmesia, in recognition of your honorable achievements.

Thank you, your Majesty. :cool:

Three cheers for Queen Jello Baifra!
New Burmesia
30-11-2006, 21:58
Yes. Who wants to write it?

None, sir! it is Her Majesty who is Sovereign and her Parliament and Council. I'll have none of this sovereignty vested in a piece of paper. Nay, sir! Let us floccinauciniliphicate your constitutional twaddle!
Jello Biafra
30-11-2006, 23:53
*ahem* :rolleyes:

I let you have that office you know... ;)<Sniff.> Is not recognition of your government enough for you? Hm. Very well, then.
<Knights Quantum Bonus, but without any flowery speech.>
Jello Biafra
01-12-2006, 23:36
Just to let you all know, the Queen shall be filling in various Royal servant positions, such as the Royal Scribe, the Royal Chef, and husband. The good citizens of NSGeneral do not need to fill these positions, but you will be informed of their activities whenever necessary.
The Infinite Dunes
02-12-2006, 01:11
Since QB only explicitly called Prime Minister, I call First Lord of the Treasury. Actually screw that. I'll just be the Lord High Treasurer. *plans how to spend the queen's money and considers how to best convert number 10 and number 11 into one house since they will both be his residences and neither the Prime Minister's nor the Chancellor's*
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 11:26
Since QB only explicitly called Prime Minister, I call First Lord of the Treasury. Actually screw that. I'll just be the Lord High Treasurer. *plans how to spend the queen's money and considers how to best convert number 10 and number 11 into one house since they will both be his residences and neither the Prime Minister's nor the Chancellor's*

:eek: :eek:

damn...

well, i dont have that on the list so tough :p :p
New Burmesia
03-12-2006, 12:30
Just to let you all know, the Queen shall be filling in various Royal servant positions, such as the Royal Scribe, the Royal Chef, and husband. The good citizens of NSGeneral do not need to fill these positions, but you will be informed of their activities whenever necessary.
Your humble servants in government will cooperate wherever necessary, your Majesty.

*Bows, nose touches the floor*
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 13:17
Your humble servants in government will cooperate wherever necessary, your Majesty.

*Bows, nose touches the floor*

I am vehemently concurrent.
Jello Biafra
03-12-2006, 14:15
So, why hasn't Parliament passed any legislation? <Sniff.>
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 14:21
If anyone sees the post, i would like to be secertary of education
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 14:30
done :D
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 14:34
So, why hasn't Parliament passed any legislation? <Sniff.>

I propose a bill to afford Jello Biafra dictatorial control of the forums. All those in favour..
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 14:48
And with that I glady sign into my post and get my first law down

Prime Minster, I would like to suggest that we abolish Summer Vacation and replace it with just one month. It has been shown that many students forget all they have learnt in those 3 months. Think about it. Students waste nearly 90 days doing nothing, thats 1/4 of a year! and thats when you dont count in december holidays. Now some people might complain this is not good for the children childhood, but look at asia, their summer vacation last a month and they grow up with happy childhoods, if Korea, Japan, Singapore and many others, can have a shorter vacations, have smarter students that grow up with happy childhoods. so can we so i wish you will allow this law

The Shorter Vacation Act:

As of 1st September 2007, Summer Vacation will be shorten to 1 month between July 1st to July 31st for all schools with the exception for universities


Pros: Students study for a longer period and not forget what they learn n the prevouis year.

Cons: Student riots

Perhaps the RHG would care to have some basic knowledge of the British Education system before proposing "amendments."
I should like to draw our attention to the first order of the day: the fortification of Her Majesty Jello Biafra.
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 14:53
*cough* it's 6 weeks *cough*

I thought its 8 weeks
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 14:58
I thought its 8 weeks

No its 6. And i cannot agree with this proposed bill. We shall keep the 6 weeks holiday, but it may be a good idea to disallow holiday time for students during the year. Throughout the school year, students lose 4 months of time through holidays. I believe this is plenty of time to have a holiday. All those in favour of this reformed bill?
Jello Biafra
03-12-2006, 14:58
I should like to draw our attention to the first order of the day: the fortification of Her Majesty Jello Biafra.Ah, yes, this does remind me...why hasn't the Empire expanded lately?
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:00
Ah, yes, this does remind me...why hasn't the Empire expanded lately?

Because Empires are againts International Law. And the western world are the only people that aren't allowed to break them apparently...
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 15:01
Ah, yes, this does remind me...why hasn't the Empire expanded lately?

Oh, it's the French, I expect.

And one just can't get, even if one can afford, adequate slaves these days.
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:04
Oh, it's the French, I expect.


Yes, I expect so. Lets go to war! :D


And one just can't get, even if one can afford, adequate slaves these days.

I hope you, sir, are not condoning slavery.
New New Lofeta
03-12-2006, 15:09
I'll be Secrectry of State for Northern Ireland.

Not like I could do a worse job than Hain is doing right now...
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 15:12
I'll be Secrectry of State for Northern Ireland.

Not like I could do a worse job than Hain is doing right now...

Prime Minister, I propose that being able to spell one's office be a prerequisite for occupying it.
Jello Biafra
03-12-2006, 15:13
Because Empires are againts International Law. And the western world are the only people that aren't allowed to break them apparently...Oh, I don't know about that, the colonists broke international law with their little fiasco in Iraq.
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:15
Prime Minister, I propose that being able to spell one's office be a prerequisite for occupying it.

An honest mistake, I am sure
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:15
Oh, I don't know about that, the colonists broke international law with their little fiasco in Iraq.

Fair enough, where shall we attack first?
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 15:16
Fair enough, where shall we attack first?

Glasgow.
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:18
Glasgow.

Somewhere we dont control already. Thats how Empires usually work :D
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 15:19
Somewhere we dont control already. Thats how Empires usually work :D

On the contrary, it is of the utmost importance that we are seen to be unbiased.

And those Scots have been getting a bit cunning lately.
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 15:20
Okay, after making a complete ass of myself, i have look through some of the basics of Education in England on wikipedia i have come up with with a new law.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/School_Stuctures.png

If you look at this it shows that England has several routes for students to take. To make things easier and less complicated for students and parents alike, I propose for one single school structure

Students will enter Primary School at the age of 6(on 1st September) and begin Primary 1, they will learn till Primary 6 at the age of 11(on 1st Sept)before leaving for Secondary School. They will complete Secondary 1 to 4 and go for Sixth Form.

Sixth form will now be renamed Junior College and be compulsary with students starting at the age of 16(on 1st Sept) to 17. The two levels will be called JC 1 and JC 2

Primary and Secondary would be paid for but Junior College would not be paid for. If parents can't afford to send their children to JC, parents can apply for a fund that will be use to help them pay for it*

*You need to be in a certain income group ratio to number of children to sucessfully apply for it. The Education Board will review each secnario if the applicant can apply for it


So its

Age : 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Lvl:Pri1 Pri2 Pri3 Pri4 Pri 5 Pri6 Sec1 Sec2 Sec4 Sec4 JC1 JC2
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:21
On the contrary, it is of utmost importance that we are seen to be unbiased.

And those Scots have been getting a bit cunning lately.

:rolleyes:

this is why Media Secretaries don't partake in war plans

:rolleyes:

And yes... Repealimg the Scottish Parliament is a good idea. We have the same monarch, what more do they want :p
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:28
Okay, after making a complete ass of myself, i have look through some of the basics of Education in England on wikipedia i have come up with with a new law.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/School_Stuctures.png

If you look at this it shows that England has several routes for students to take. To make things easier and less complicated for students and parents alike, I propose for one single school structure

Students will enter Primary School at the age of 5(on 1st September) and begin Primary 1, they will learn till Primary 6 at the age of 11(on 1st Sept)before leaving for Secondary School. They will complete Secondary 1 to 4 and go for Sixth Form.

Sixth form will now be renamed Junior College and be compulsary with students starting at the age of 16(on 1st Sept) to 17. The two levels will be called JC 1 and JC 2

Primary and Secondary would be paid for but Junior College would not be paid for. If parents can't afford to send their children to JC, parents can apply for a fund that will be use to help them pay for it*

*You need to be in a certain income group ratio to number of children to sucessfully apply for it. The Education Board will review each secnario if the applicant can apply for it

I agree with the proposal of a single school structure, but the Junior College clause is somewhat worrying. I believe the 6th form that we have now is adequate. Making it cost parents money but also compulsory will not be very popular. Free 6th form gives those pupils that come from under-priveliged (sp?) backgrounds the chance to further their education if they wish. If they cannot afford to go to university, it at least leaves them with a few A Levels
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 15:29
I agree with the proposal of a single school structure, but the Junior College clause is somewhat worrying. I believe the 6th form that we have now is adequate. Making it cost parents money but also compulsory will not be very popular. Free 6th form gives those pupils that come from under-priveliged (sp?) backgrounds the chance to further their education if they wish. If they cannot afford to go to university, it at least leaves them with a few A Levels

It would also be a complete back-track on the current policy of paying students to attend 6th form colleges.
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:30
It would also be a complete back-track on the current policy of paying students to attend 6th form colleges.

Yes, that too
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 15:34
I really believe that all students should go into sixth form, i believe all students should finish basic education of 12 years. The two years at sixth form are very much more advance than Secondary school, it will teach them alot and give them a shot at Universities. If they ever get enough money to go into university
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 15:36
I really believe that all students should go into sixth form, i believe all students should finish basic education of 12 years. The two years at sixth form are very much more advance than Secondary school

Altogether it's 13 years... well, 15 if you include Foundation and Nursery :p

But the basic 11 years gives the student a basic understanding of everything, A level just builds on a few certain areas
Incindus Pyraxis
03-12-2006, 15:37
Secretary of State for Communities and Local Gov't please.

Scrap the council tax and introduce the local income tax. Base it on ability to pay rather than the house you inherited 3 years ago. :cool:

Economic Left/Right -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -4.62
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 15:39
Altogether it's 13 years... well, 15 if you include Foundation and Nursery :p

But the basic 11 years gives the student a basic understanding of everything, A level just builds on a few certain areas

An A level will help them career wise,it will also lead to universities i mean dont you want a nation full of doctors and lawyers and that?

And by the way, can someone tell me if England had gain any land from any wars?
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 16:30
An A level will help them career wise,it will also lead to universities i mean dont you want a nation full of doctors and lawyers and that?

And by the way, can someone tell me if England had gain any land from any wars?

How about 1/4 of the earths land? :D

ANd no, i dont, we also need practical people like plumbers and electricians. we are in short supply of those. we need more people to do apprenticeships
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 16:31
ANd no, i dont, we also need practical people like plumbers and electricians. we are in short supply of those. we need more people to do apprenticeships

Not really—that's what cherry picking Eastern Europe is for.
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 16:32
Not really—that's what cherry picking Eastern Europe is for.

:eek: You mean get more immigrants?? :eek:

The problem with that is their education in plumbing or whatever may be sub standard compared to ours
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 16:34
:eek: You mean get more immigrants?? :eek:
Yes

The problem with that is their education in plumbing or whatever may be sub standard compared to ours
I see no evidence of this. Immigrant workers work harder, for longer and do a better job. They don't take tea-breaks; they don't expect as much money; they are better.
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 16:35
:eek: You mean get more immigrants?? :eek:

The problem with that is their education in plumbing or whatever may be sub standard compared to ours

yes....they do the manual labour
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 16:36
So what your final verdict of my proposal?
New Burmesia
03-12-2006, 16:47
Ah, yes, this does remind me...why hasn't the Empire expanded lately?
I, as Foreign Secretary suggest this (http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/2/2f/UnBritishEmpire1919.PNG)as our objective.

It would also be a complete back-track on the current policy of paying students to attend 6th form colleges.
What? I'm at 6th form and I don't get a penny? Unlike all the students on EMA who get £30 a week to spend on booze, smokes, guitars and having a good time.:mad:

On the education front, I simply suggest we abolish trust schools since they do not follow the curriculum as instructed by Her Majesty and teach more about the Emparh and Her glorious history!
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:07
No its 6. And i cannot agree with this proposed bill. We shall keep the 6 weeks holiday, but it may be a good idea to disallow holiday time for students during the year. Throughout the school year, students lose 4 months of time through holidays. I believe this is plenty of time to have a holiday. All those in favour of this reformed bill?

Perhaps we should consider preserving the summer, Easter and Christmas holidays and dispense with any half-term breaks
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:08
Fair enough, where shall we attack first?

Normandy :rolleyes:
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:09
I, as Foreign Secretary suggest this (http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/2/2f/UnBritishEmpire1919.PNG)as our objective.


As Defence Secretary I suggest an increase in funding for our ministry in an attempt to regain the Empire :D .
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:18
I, as Foreign Secretary suggest this (http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/2/2f/UnBritishEmpire1919.PNG)as our objective.

Throw in Thailand too, so our empire will be continunnous. and lets just take the rest of Indonesia while we are at it
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:19
Throw in Thailand too, so our empire will be continunnous. and lets just take the rest of Indonesia while we are at it

And the Whole of France and China :)
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:23
And the Whole of France and China :)

France yes we can win...their french

China no we cant take the whole of it
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:24
France yes we can win...their french

China no we cant take the whole of it

Maybe just Shanghai then?
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:28
Maybe just Shanghai then?

Perfect


http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2128/copy2ofworldmapvd0.th.png (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copy2ofworldmapvd0.png)

I only want English America, the rest of it can go fuck itself
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:33
Perfect

Shall we prepare the invasion then? :D
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:35
Shall we prepare the invasion then? :D

Ill get the navy ready and im the head of education.....


Now to france! the invasion starts now!!
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:46
Ill get the navy ready and im the head of education.....


Now to france! the invasion starts now!!

I shall withdraw troops from Iraq with the Prime Ministers permission in preparation for the invasion.

Also, I'll get the navy ready.....I can't allow the Secretary for Education take over my job as Secretary for Defence can I?
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:49
Also, I'll get the navy ready.....I can't allow the Secretary for Education take over my job as Secretary for Defence can I?

:D Maybe....
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 18:51
Ill get the navy ready and im the head of education.....


Now to france! the invasion starts now!!

As Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, I strongly advise against this unprovoked, philistine attack on the artistic capital of Europe.

Might I suggest that this would be an apt time to transfer the monarchical power of war declaration from the Prime Minister to Parliament?
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:53
As Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, I strongly advise against this unprovoked, philistine attack on the artistic capital of Europe.

Might I suggest that this would be an apt time to transfer the monarchical power of war declaration from the Prime Minister to Parliament?

Maybe it would be good for Parliament to decide. However, France would still be the Artisitc capital of Europe....it'd just be British instead :D Huzzah!
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:55
As Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, I strongly advise against this unprovoked, philistine attack on the artistic capital of Europe.

Might I suggest that this would be an apt time to transfer the monarchical power of war declaration from the Prime Minister to Parliament?

Then what can we attack?
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 18:55
Maybe it would be good for Parliament to decide. However, France would still be the Artisitc capital of Europe....it'd just be British instead :D Huzzah!

Alternatively, we could return it to Her Majesty Jello Biafra. I think she'd be more responsible.
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 18:57
Alternatively, we could return it to Her Majesty Jello Biafra. I think she'd be more responsible.

As long as im invading something
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 18:57
Alternatively, we could return it to Her Majesty Jello Biafra. I think she'd be more responsible.

Surely Parliament should decide....also the Monarch has no power to reject the will of her government, she cannot refuse to give royal assension to any bill passed by parliament.
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 18:58
Surely Parliament should decide....also the Monarch has no power to reject the will of her government, she cannot refuse to give royal assension to any bill passed by parliament.

You miss the point of my amendments.
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 19:00
You miss the point of my amendments.

I'm sorry if I have......Parliament shall decide upon the invasion. Everybody vote on whther you want the invasion to go ahead using troops withdrawn from Iraq. I vote yes.
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 19:01
You miss the point of my amendments.

Can we just go kick the butts of the french?!!??


I am a war-going Secretary of State for Education
ConscribedComradeship
03-12-2006, 19:03
I'm sorry if I have......Parliament shall decide upon the invasion. Everybody vote on whther you want the invasion to go ahead using troops withdrawn from Iraq. I vote yes.

Pfft, first the PM will have to relinquish his powers. Then we can reassign them.
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 19:11
you have no idea about international diplomacy at all do you. If we are to get our Empire back, we must start in Africa. No-one'll care if we take them back. We use all the resources there and build up the army even more, then no-one will be able to stop us!
If we go to France first, then we'll have the whole of NATO against us...
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 19:12
Can we just go kick the butts of the french?!!??


I am a war-going Secretary of State for Education

I believe the word is war "mongering"
New Burmesia
03-12-2006, 19:13
you have no idea about international diplomacy at all do you. If we are to get our Empire back, we must start in Africa. No-one'll care if we take them back. We use all the resources there and build up the army even more, then no-one will be able to stop us!
If we go to France first, then we'll have the whole of NATO WITH us...
Edited for correction, sir!
New Burmesia
03-12-2006, 19:15
Pfft, first the PM will have to relinquish his powers. Then we can reassign them.
Technically all power is vested in Her Majesty in Council, with the PM only exercising these powers by tradition.
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 19:15
I believe the word is war "mongering"

French:gundge: French:mp5:

The french need to be punish for their snail-eating ways!!
Chumblywumbly
03-12-2006, 19:19
As Secretary of State for Scotland and Deputy PM, I deplore this House’s centuries old hatred for our cheese-eating friends.

Where would we be able to get cheap booze and fags on holiday once we invaded?
Aronnax
03-12-2006, 19:22
As Secretary of State for Scotland and Deputy PM, I deplore this House’s centuries old hatred for our cheese-eating friends.

Where would we be able to get cheap booze and fags on holiday once we invaded?

Cant we still just force it out of them?
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 19:54
you have no idea about international diplomacy at all do you. If we are to get our Empire back, we must start in Africa. No-one'll care if we take them back. We use all the resources there and build up the army even more, then no-one will be able to stop us!
If we go to France first, then we'll have the whole of NATO against us...

How about liberating Zimbabwe?
Purple Android
03-12-2006, 19:55
As Secretary of State for Scotland and Deputy PM, I deplore this House’s centuries old hatred for our cheese-eating friends.

Where would we be able to get cheap booze and fags on holiday once we invaded?

British Normandy :p
Quantum Bonus
03-12-2006, 20:37
How about liberating Zimbabwe?

Good idea, we'd get international backing for that
Purple Android
04-12-2006, 15:45
Good idea, we'd get international backing for that

Zimbabwe it is then......I'll prepare the troops whilst the Foreign Minister persuades the U.N. to support our invasion.
Chumblywumbly
04-12-2006, 16:55
As a parallel government, where do our troops come from, or our finances to invade a sovereign state? Is the cabinet going to take on Mugabe directly? I may have other engagements.....

Also, might we be a bit premature, invading a country before our governmental system is set up?
ConscribedComradeship
04-12-2006, 17:06
As a parallel government, where do our troops come from, or our finances to invade a sovereign state? Is the cabinet going to take on Mugabe directly? I may have other engagements.....

Also, might we be a bit premature, invading a country before our governmental system is set up?

No, we are not taking on Mugabe. We are taking on parallel-Zimbabwean-despot.

The troops are taken from Google Image Search.
Aequilibritas
04-12-2006, 17:55
Yes


I see no evidence of this. Immigrant workers work harder, for longer and do a better job. They don't take tea-breaks; they don't expect as much money; they are better.

Exactly, they make our workers look bad. We can't have that!
Aequilibritas
04-12-2006, 17:58
As Defence Secretary I suggest an increase in funding for our ministry in an attempt to regain the Empire :D .

As Chancellor, I'll increase the defence budget when you've regained an empire to defend!

Think of it as a sort of performance bonus.
Purple Android
04-12-2006, 18:03
As Chancellor, I'll increase the defence budget when you've regained an empire to defend!

Think of it as a sort of performance bonus.

Don't we need a larger army to regain the empire and thus more funding before an invasion begins?
Purple Android
04-12-2006, 18:04
No, we are not taking on Mugabe. We are taking on parallel-Zimbabwean-despot.

The troops are taken from Google Image Search.

Can't we just remove them from the parrallel-Iraq and send them to the parrallel-Zimbabwe?
Purple Android
04-12-2006, 18:05
As a parallel government, where do our troops come from, or our finances to invade a sovereign state? Is the cabinet going to take on Mugabe directly? I may have other engagements.....

Also, might we be a bit premature, invading a country before our governmental system is set up?

Our governmental system is set up....we are a parrallel of the current British Parliamentary system remember
Aequilibritas
04-12-2006, 18:10
Don't we need a larger army to regain the empire and thus more funding before an invasion begins?

Nope. Google Image Search can deploy 532,000 soldiers in 0.10 seconds. That's enough to be going on with.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=soldier
Purple Android
04-12-2006, 18:15
Nope. Google Image Search can deploy 532,000 soldiers in 0.10 seconds. That's enough to be going on with.


Yes but we need an army to rival the world's largest....can Google deploy 2 million troops in our attempts to regain the empire? Maybe we should bring back national service :p
New New Lofeta
04-12-2006, 18:51
Hmmm... Well, Zimbabwe is abit far away from London...

Maybe somewhere atad closer to home?

As Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, I propose we invade the Republic of Ireland and move my office to Dublin... The offices are much nicer in Dublin than in Belfast.
Gorias
04-12-2006, 19:13
the Ambassador to Eire dislikes idea. demans tribute to ireland be given hence forth. we deman morrisons. or at least one.
ConscribedComradeship
04-12-2006, 19:16
Yes but we need an army to rival the world's largest....can Google deploy 2 million troops in our attempts to regain the empire? Maybe we should bring back national service :p

Don't worry:
516,000 for army [definition]. (0.05 seconds)
We'll be fine.
ConscribedComradeship
04-12-2006, 19:18
the Ambassador to Eire dislikes idea. demans tribute to ireland be given hence forth. we deman morrisons. or at least one.
British Government rejects idea on cultural grounds. Would request proper sentences with capitalization of letters be used hereafter.
Gorias
04-12-2006, 19:22
British Government rejects idea on cultural grounds. Would request proper sentences with capitalization of letters be used hereafter.

tuff tity. gorias rejects grammar and spelling nazis. :upyours: you have no power over me Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.
Quantum Bonus
04-12-2006, 19:41
tuff tity. gorias rejects grammar and spelling nazis. :upyours: you have no power over me Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.

No, but I do. Please make yourself look professional.

And, no, we would not have NATO with us against France.

Yes, we should wait a bit first. Pictures of soldiers wont stand up to militia with guns y'know :p

And yes, taking Mugabe head on would be a good idea. But to get international support, we must set up a democratic Gov't there. I suggest using a puppet gov't :p
Jello Biafra
05-12-2006, 13:52
tuff tity. gorias rejects grammar and spelling nazis.<Sniff.> Oh dear, I hope all Irish aren't like this.
Gorias
05-12-2006, 14:13
<Sniff.> Oh dear, I hope all Irish aren't like this.

Freedom of speech, is something we regard highly over here. We have always tried to move English in the direction we wanted it to go. James Joyce tried very hard. We have even made up a tense not spoken in usual English. Might I add, that Ireland has the record of most nobel prizes for English litrerature. If we werent allowed change it, we wouldnt have Shakespere or Chauncer.
Jello Biafra
05-12-2006, 18:36
Freedom of speech, is something we regard highly over here. We have always tried to move English in the direction we wanted it to go. James Joyce tried very hard. We have even made up a tense not spoken in usual English. Might I add, that Ireland has the record of most nobel prizes for English litrerature. If we werent allowed change it, we wouldnt have Shakespere or Chauncer.<Sniff.> Are you trying to say your lack of concern for grammar is deliberate poetic license?
Nadkor
05-12-2006, 19:15
As Home Secretary I hereby announce that everybody in this thread, bar Jello Biafra because he's the Queen and you can't do it to her, are having control orders imposed on you under the Prevention of Terrorism Act. The orders will forbid you from posting in this thread.

Nicely leaving me to run the country.

Bitches. :p
New Burmesia
05-12-2006, 19:33
As Home Secretary I hereby announce that everybody in this thread, bar Jello Biafra because he's the Queen and you can't do it to her, are having control orders imposed on you under the Prevention of Terrorism Act. The orders will forbid you from posting in this thread.

Nicely leaving me to run the country.

Bitches. :p
*Sulks*
Quantum Bonus
05-12-2006, 19:48
As Home Secretary I hereby announce that everybody in this thread, bar Jello Biafra because he's the Queen and you can't do it to her, are having control orders imposed on you under the Prevention of Terrorism Act. The orders will forbid you from posting in this thread.

Nicely leaving me to run the country.

Bitches. :p

:eek: :eek:

TRHB is a power hungry nutter, and must be silenced. Your Majesty?

:p
Jello Biafra
05-12-2006, 19:50
:eek: :eek:

TRHB is a power hungry nutter, and must be silenced. Your Majesty?

:p<Looks up from tea.> Yes?
Quantum Bonus
05-12-2006, 19:59
<Looks up from tea.> Yes?

Sort him out ;)
Jello Biafra
05-12-2006, 20:00
Sort him out ;)Oh. <Polite applause.> Bravo, Nadkor, excellent performance! You really had us going there!
Nadkor
05-12-2006, 20:11
:eek: :eek:

TRHB is a power hungry nutter, and must be silenced. Your Majesty?

:p

TRHB?
Purple Android
05-12-2006, 20:18
No, but I do. Please make yourself look professional.

And, no, we would not have NATO with us against France.

Yes, we should wait a bit first. Pictures of soldiers wont stand up to militia with guns y'know :p

And yes, taking Mugabe head on would be a good idea. But to get international support, we must set up a democratic Gov't there. I suggest using a puppet gov't :p

:p now we need to elect a president of Zimbabwe
Quantum Bonus
05-12-2006, 20:19
TRHB?

"The Right Honourable Gentleman"
Quantum Bonus
05-12-2006, 20:20
:p now we need to elect a president of Zimbabwe

Who wants the job?
Nadkor
05-12-2006, 20:21
"The Right Honourable Gentleman"

Then it should have been "TRHL" :p

Or The Right Honourable Member for Belfast, or some such :p
Quantum Bonus
05-12-2006, 20:23
Then it should have been "TRHL" :p

Or The Right Honourable Member for Belfast, or some such :P

Why L? I know its supposed to be TRHG btw :p
Nadkor
05-12-2006, 20:24
Why L? I know its supposed to be TRHG btw :p

"L" for "Lady" :p

I'm guessing you don't have sigs on or something?
Quantum Bonus
05-12-2006, 20:30
"L" for "Lady" :p

I'm guessing you don't have sigs on or something?

ohhhhh. whoops.. sorry!! :D

No i dont. Id better have em on lol
Nadkor
05-12-2006, 20:37
ohhhhh. whoops.. sorry!! :D

No i dont. Id better have em on lol

Haha, don't worry, it's the internet you get used to it :)
Gorias
05-12-2006, 21:10
<Sniff.> Are you trying to say your lack of concern for grammar is deliberate poetic license?

yep. easier for me to type.
New New Lofeta
05-12-2006, 21:49
yep. easier for me to type.

That really should mean war you know...

*Snipes away*
Jello Biafra
06-12-2006, 08:32
yep. easier for me to type.<Sniff.> But not easier for others to understand.