NationStates Jolt Archive


The Cold War

Amadenijad
27-11-2006, 00:09
The cold war never turned hot...duh. but what if it had? hmmm...interesting...stay with me here. There are alot of movies that show the state of the world leading up to all out nuclear war and movies about life just after the realization of mutual assured destruction, but nothing of the actual war. nowhere in any movie ive ever seen does anybody actually show the war. I guess red dawn is about the war but its a bunch of teenaged kids running around with a downed pilot. So what would have the cold war really been like had it really happened?
United Beleriand
27-11-2006, 00:11
The cold war never turned hot...duh. but what if it had? hmmm...interesting...stay with me here. There are alot of movies that show the state of the world leading up to all out nuclear war and movies about life just after the realization of mutual assured destruction, but nothing of the actual war. nowhere in any movie ive ever seen does anybody actually show the war. I guess red dawn is about the war but its a bunch of teenaged kids running around with a downed pilot. So what would have the cold war really been like had it really happened?Over pretty soon.
Liberated New Ireland
27-11-2006, 00:12
There are alot of movies that show the state of the world leading up to all out nuclear war and movies about life just after the realization of mutual assured destruction, but nothing of the actual war.
On The Beach
Dr. Strangelove
Fail-Safe
World War III
Mad Max/Road Warrior
Damnation Alley

I could go on...
New Stalinberg
27-11-2006, 00:14
I guess red dawn is about the war but its a bunch of teenaged kids running around with a downed pilot.

I'd say the movie is about a bunch of faceless mass smashed together in hope of creating something people would watch.

Red Dawn aside, I'd say that the Cold War would have resulted in WW3, or rather, the free states VS the Communist States.
Andaluciae
27-11-2006, 00:17
The Soviet Military would drive for the Fulda Gap, dogged by a ferocious NATO retreat, trading space for time. The NATO armies would prove insufficient for defeating the Soviet forces on their own, and tactical nuclear weapons would be introduced as soon as it seems that Soviet troops have passed the point of no return in the Fulda Gap. The Soviets would respond in kind with tactical nuclear strikes against American forces outside of Frankfurt, and against Rhein-Main Air Base, as well as against NATO port facilities in Hamburg, Antwerp and along the French Coast. NATO forces would launch nuclear strikes against Soviet railway staging points, and strategic Soviet bridges and points in the railroutes from Russia. The Soviets would strike against Great Britain and the capitols of several key members of NATO in Europe.

At this point, hopefully cooler heads would prevail, and while millions upon millions would have died, the madness would be stopped. If they don't succeed in holding off general strategic strikes, then, well. We all die for certain.
Ollieland
27-11-2006, 01:14
The Soviet Military would drive for the Fulda Gap, dogged by a ferocious NATO retreat, trading space for time. The NATO armies would prove insufficient for defeating the Soviet forces on their own, and tactical nuclear weapons would be introduced as soon as it seems that Soviet troops have passed the point of no return in the Fulda Gap. The Soviets would respond in kind with tactical nuclear strikes against American forces outside of Frankfurt, and against Rhein-Main Air Base, as well as against NATO port facilities in Hamburg, Antwerp and along the French Coast. NATO forces would launch nuclear strikes against Soviet railway staging points, and strategic Soviet bridges and points in the railroutes from Russia. The Soviets would strike against Great Britain and the capitols of several key members of NATO in Europe.

At this point, hopefully cooler heads would prevail, and while millions upon millions would have died, the madness would be stopped. If they don't succeed in holding off general strategic strikes, then, well. We all die for certain.

Yes to the first bolded section.

And sadly, yes to the second bolde3d section as well.
Soviestan
27-11-2006, 01:16
Everyone dead. <--------Answers your question
Dododecapod
27-11-2006, 10:27
While there's no movie on the subject, I might suggest you read The Third World War by General Sir John Hackett, which presents the conflict from an overall, global perspective, and Team Yankee, which takes General Hackett's book and then focuses on the actions of a single US Army Abrams Team in central Germany. Team Yankee is by Harold Coyle.

General Hackett was one of the most celebrated military strategists and analysts at the British War College, and his book was meticulously researched. However, it was written pre-Fall of the Soviet Union, and so presents a more powerful Warsaw Pact than we now know existed. It's still an excellent read though, as is Team Yankee.
Aronnax
27-11-2006, 10:31
tell me, does the cold war turn hot before or after the soviet union invade afganistan, cause that could judge who wins
Christmahanikwanzikah
27-11-2006, 10:31
Read Flight of the Old Dog by Dale Brown (no, not dan brown)

excellent fiction novel that tells the story of a b-52 and its crew on a mission inside the USSR during 1988.

hell, while youre at it, read his entire line of novels... hes primarily a military author with connections with the air force.
Dododecapod
27-11-2006, 10:33
tell me, does the cold war turn hot before or after the soviet union invade afganistan, cause that could judge who wins

The Third World War was pre-Afghanistan, as I recall.

Oh and let me second Christmahanikwanzikah's praise of Dale Brown's writing. While he's not as good as Hackett research wise, he writes excellent technothrillers.
Christmahanikwanzikah
27-11-2006, 10:33
tell me, does the cold war turn hot before or after the soviet union invade afganistan, cause that could judge who wins

id say before, with the whole war in korea and vietnam going on... the period after those wars you see a greater awareness of the detente policy, or the movement away from war.
Andaras Prime
27-11-2006, 10:44
http://www.introversion.co.uk/defcon/
This is what happens, everyone dies, you can just die less. Now come and play nubs.