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So whats your faviourte operating system? The option you chose will give you a nerd rating as well :D

*poll coming*

don't have a favourite.

totally waiting on the poll..........


still waiting........













*zzzz*

Hmm,.... I like several... surely Linux is the best at the moment, but the kernel is monolithic.... It would be more aesthetic to use a nanokernel or at least a microkernel! So Linux and HURD, I guess!

Favorite in what sense?
I prefer linux on ideological ground, religious ground, programming grounds, and several other grounds.
But internet looks better on windows, and that's the bulk of my home computering.

But internet looks better on windows, and that's the bulk of my home computering.

Flash-addict?

Flash-addict?Not at all (In fact I'm pretty sure the virtual world would be better off without flash).
But the fonts and stuff won't show up properly in linux, no matter what I try. Even though I use the same browser.

Sicne I don't know much about OS's, i found it hard to remember popular Os's. So basicly, the poll is crap.

I use Linux almost exclusively. Winodos only stays on my harddrive because of one app I need for school.

I do gaming and internet mostly so Windows for me.

I really can't stand Mac. Linux I like and will run in case I ever set a server up or similar programming applications.

Not at all (In fact I'm pretty sure the virtual world would be better off without flash).
But the fonts and stuff won't show up properly in linux, no matter what I try. Even though I use the same browser.
Try Konqueror! FF under Linux plainly sucks!

I would think that Mac would be the least nerdiest. It hides so much of the computer from you, which would be something that a nerd would dislike.

I loved DOS.

I use Linux almost exclusively. Winodos only stays on my harddrive because of one app I need for school.
Sue for religious discrimination as member of the Church of Emacs! (I threatened to in university one time and next week the programming framework (some files for GL programming in C) mysteriously worked under Linux)

I loved MS-DOS. It was so easy to use and beautiful in its simplistic form. These days, Windows is the only considerable option.

All hail Microsoft!

Try Konqueror! FF under Linux plainly sucks!

Konqueror shows that is also a file manager. How do you start it from a console?

Sue for religious discrimination as member of the Church of Emacs! (I threatened to in university one time and next week the programming framework (some files for GL programming in C) mysteriously worked under Linux)

Can't use Emacs. I am just now learning Vim.

<.<

>.>

Try Konqueror! FF under Linux plainly sucks!

however, under windows it is the best browser available. is it so hard for u to realise that?

Try Konqueror! FF under Linux plainly sucks!Do quick searches work in Konqueror, and bookmarklets?
I'd hate to have to rewrite my complex collection of bookmarklets..

Konqueror shows that is also a file manager. How do you start it from a console?
Very simple:
konqueror

Can't use Emacs. I am just now learning Vim.

Church of Vi then (even though the CoE is tolerant towards vi seeing it is Open Source)!

Konqueror shows that is also a file manager. How do you start it from a console?With "konqueror"? Seems the obvious way..

Do quick searches work in Konqueror, and bookmarklets?
I'd hate to have to rewrite my complex collection of bookmarklets..

Quick searches work: "atw:" searches in alltheweb, "wp:" in the Wikipedia and "gg:" in google (ggi: searches in Google images).

However: I have no clue what bookmarklets are....

however, under windows it is the best browser available. is it so hard for u to realise that?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29) is the best browser. Nothing can match it.

I am currently using ubuntu on my server (yeah, we have a real life computer network in our house, we are that nerdy) and edubuntu and Win XP on each of our workstations, I have to keep XP on them because some of the programs we use for various things don't work well in Linux. :(

I had Redhat for a long long time it was great (and sucky, but hubby always fixed it)

I hate Windows......I really really really do.

Quick searches work: "atw:" searches in alltheweb, "wp:" in the Wikipedia and "gg:" in google (ggi: searches in Google images).Yes, but can you make your own?
like can I make
ety: <word>
So it search for a word on etymology online? And other assorted websites with search options.

However: I have no clue what bookmarklets are....They're small lines of javascript, used as urls. Very nice when combined with the above. For example, I have a bookmarklet that'll let me change the colorscheme on a page, or lets me replace words etc.

98.

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29) is the best browser. Nothing can match it.
firefox can PWN this stupid "lynx"

Windows, out of practicality. However, I use a shitload of open-source programs on it so I guess that redeems me a little.

Very simple:
konqueror



Church of Vi then (even though the CoE is tolerant towards vi seeing it is Open Source)!

Well the course uses BlueJay, which is supposed to work on linux, it uses java to install itself, and well that just doesn't happen.

BlueJay is not compatable with basic text editors. It uses ONLY classes, so I have yet to learn how to make main.java (or whatever the extension for java src is). So dispite being too high-level for the OS to matter, the program just doesn't work on Linux.

I have to keep XP on them because some of the programs we use for various things don't work well in Linux. :(You might give VMWare a shot, if you haven't already. It can run a virtual machine under either windows or linux with the other OS.

Very simple:
konqueror
Really? Wow. I remember back in my Kubuntu days, the launcher had something like konq --a bunch of options. So I tried that, always with no success.

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_%28web_browser%29) is the best browser. Nothing can match it.Not very good for browsing webcomics..though.

You might give VMWare a shot, if you haven't already. It can run a virtual machine under either windows or linux with the other OS.

It is slow as hell. Xen, is supposed to work with Windows now, and may be in the Ubuntu repos. Though, who the hell knows if Ubuntu's repos are up to date enough for Xen to run Windows.

I sold my soul to Microsoft ages ago. But it seems the Mac is fighting for it at the moment.

Yes, but can you make your own?
like can I make
ety: <word>
So it search for a word on etymology online? And other assorted websites with search options.

Jep, possible!


They're small lines of javascript, used as urls. Very nice when combined with the above. For example, I have a bookmarklet that'll let me change the colorscheme on a page, or lets me replace words etc.

I have not seen that in Konqi... maybe look on its homepage.

I have not seen that in Konqi... maybe look on its homepage.Konqueror uses the same DOM as firefox right?
So as long as a link as
javascript:function test(){alert(1);} test()
works, it should be fine..
Allthough, I have noticed javascript running a lot slower under linux too (but that may very well depend on the browser)

So whats your faviourte operating system?

I was extremely charmed by BeOS and its haiku error messages. Unfortunately it failed, and the open source project is not really moving forward.

Konqueror uses the same DOM as firefox right?
So as long as a link as
javascript:function test(alert(1)); test()
works, it should be fine..
Allthough, I have noticed javascript running a lot slower under linux too (but that may very well depend on the browser)
It tries to locate that if typed to the address bar.

BTW: the nerdiest thread was this one: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507597

It tries to locate that if typed to the address bar.

BTW: the nerdiest thread was this one: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507597

Votes in other thread.

I like Windows 'cuase I'm lazy and I've tried some versions of Linux (I think my school has Mandrake mostly... I think that's what it's called) and they were pretty good. The computer I've been assigned to work with on campus uses Solaris. If the programs were updated then it would be fine, I haven't had any problems with the operating system itself except when I tried to install firefox and it wouldn't let me. I mean, I have to program in fortran 77 on the fucking thing becuase it doesn't have an F90 compiler.

I like Windows 'cuase I'm lazy and I've tried some versions of Linux (I think my school has Mandrake mostly... I think that's what it's called) and they were pretty good. The computer I've been assigned to work with on campus uses Solaris. If the programs were updated then it would be fine, I haven't had any problems with the operating system itself except when I tried to install firefox and it wouldn't let me. I mean, I have to program in fortran 77 on the fucking thing becuase it doesn't have an F90 compiler.

Mandrake was forced ot rename itself a few years ago.

What version of solairis do you use?

Really? Wow. I remember back in my Kubuntu days, the launcher had something like konq --a bunch of options. So I tried that, always with no success.
This is what the lancher uses to launch konqueror:
kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
WTF?

I would think that Mac would be the least nerdiest. It hides so much of the computer from you, which would be something that a nerd would dislike.

Agreed. At home I do things under Windows because that's what games are written for. At school everything is unix, which is fine although some of the programs have wierd hotkeys. An interesting OS is "Minix". Rather than try to describe it, I will just link you to the website.
http://www.minix3.org/
The main features:
This new OS is extremely small, with the part that runs in kernel mode under 4000 lines of executable code. The parts that run in user mode are divided into small modules, well insulated from one another. For example, each device driver runs as a separate user-mode process so a bug in a driver (by far the biggest source of bugs in any operating system), cannot bring down the entire OS. In fact, most of the time when a driver crashes it is automatically replaced without requiring any user intervention, without requiring rebooting, and without affecting running programs.

Votes in other thread.
NERD!

Agreed. At home I do things under Windows because that's what games are written for. At school everything is unix, which is fine although some of the programs have wierd hotkeys. An interesting OS is "Minix". Rather than try to describe it, I will just link you to the website.
http://www.minix3.org/


Minix is neat, Microkernels are in general neat.

Mandrake was forced ot rename itself a few years ago.

What version of solairis do you use?
I have no idea what version it is, next time I use the computer I'll take note.

It came with a really old version of netscape though... so I can't view a lot of webpages and it seems to add some weird extention when I go to try and install firefox so I can't get it installed.

Agreed. At home I do things under Windows because that's what games are written for. At school everything is unix, which is fine although some of the programs have wierd hotkeys. An interesting OS is "Minix". Rather than try to describe it, I will just link you to the website.
http://www.minix3.org/
The main features:

The first versions of Linux required Minix to install Linux.

NERD!

look who's talking!

I'm used to Windows, and I like it, but the Mac is just so much more stable.


If you were flying in an airplane that was flown soley on autopilot by Mac or Windows, which one would you choose?

So whats your faviourte operating system? The option you chose will give you a nerd rating as well :D

*poll coming*

What in the world could be massively more complicated than building your own operating system?

I'm used to Windows, and I like it, but the Mac is just so much more stable.


If you were flying in an airplane that was flown soley on autopilot by Mac or Windows, which one would you choose?

none! nothing with a GUI can do any serious task, which does not need user-interaction. Darwin (the Mac OS X kernel) and an autopilot without any bells and whistles of the graphical kind would be okay, but OS X? *shudders*

I'm used to Windows, and I like it, but the Mac is just so much more stable.


If you were flying in an airplane that was flown soley on autopilot by Mac or Windows, which one would you choose?

I'd walk.

I'm used to Windows, and I like it, but the Mac is just so much more stable.


If you were flying in an airplane that was flown soley on autopilot by Mac or Windows, which one would you choose?

take the train. (no screenings)

What in the world could be massively more complicated than building your own operating system?

Building the hardware it runs on too?

TRS 80 Basic OS.

I'm not as much of a computer nerd as I would like and thus I use windows. But oh man how I would like to be some crazy good hacker guy that could make his own os or something.

I resent being called average even though I only use Windows. I tried installing Linux but I couldn't get it to dual boot the way I wanted to so I decided the best course of action was to wipe my hard drive of the penguin.:)

I'm used to Windows, and I like it, but the Mac is just so much more stable.
I don't get why people bitch about windows being unstable, I've owned my computer for 5 years and it's only crashed twice and both times I was doing something dumb like trying to install two programs at once while opening another one or something like that.
I can't imagine that macs are much better.

Oh, and my class has managed to crash the linux based undergrad computer thingy a lot this past week...

I can't imagine that macs are much better.

Macs don't need to install programmes. :P

Macs don't need to install programmes. :P

Do you know why it is that they don't get spyware or viruses?

Macs don't need to install programmes. :P
Really? So it comes with every game you would ever want to play? Do they come with Frostwire?

Actually, come to think of it when I looked at macs in the store they didn't even have Solitaire... it made me sad.

Macs don't need to install programmes. :P

Or are the definitions of installation on a Windows and Mac different (Windows will sometimes have that annoying registry baggage)?

Macs don't need to install programmes. :P
You can apt-get all the programs you want?

I've used Linux before, but I'm a gamer at heart so using Windows is a lot less hassle for me.

You can apt-get all the programs you want?

even oblivian?

I prefer an OS that can run stuff and right-click. So Windows.

I prefer an OS that can run stuff and right-click. So Windows.
My KDE can right-click and run stuff!

TRS 80 Basic OS.

SYNTAX ERROR
>?

Another thing we have Microsoft to 'thank' for.

Calculate my geek score:


I'm playing SimCity 2000...

Using free market political economics to win the "Flint" scenario in about 3 minutes...

In an MS DOS emulator...
Running in Linux...
While transfering files over the internet...

With SFTP not FTP...

To my Solaris account at school...
While I read about X11 support in MacOS. (alas, I don't actually own an Apple...)

edit: Oh, and...
Occasionally rebooting to the Windows partition...
In order to play all three endings to Deus Ex, for the millionth time. :D

Well I use all the above plus have worked on variants of my own on the FreeBSD kernel

Though while I agree with most I do not see why solaris users are nerdier then other linux bases.

Bow down before the Emporer Nerd(s)!

Calculate my geek score:


I'm playing SimCity 2000...

Using free market political economics to win the "Flint" senario in about 3 minutes...

In an MS DOS emulator...
Running in Linux...
While transfering files over the internet...

With SFTP not FTP...

To my Solaris account at school...
While I read about X11 support in MacOS. (alas, I don't actually own an Apple...)
edit: Oh, and...
Occasionally rebooting to the Windows partition...
In order to play all three endings to Deus Ex, for the millionth time. :D


Ok I feel like a go here is what I am doing right now

1) At home on FreeBSD machine (xfce4 UI)
2) SSH tunneling VNC to my server at work
3) Server is running a remote X session tunneled into my workstation.

4) Also ssh tunneled through my server to my VMware server cluster
5) Rebuilding the kernel on the master USING the cluster for DistCC
6) Chaning the kernel changes to all over slaves after the master completes

Oh yeah posting on the forums using links (like this but not in a windows envyronment)

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/general.jpg

1) At home on FreeBSD machine (xfce4 UI)
2) SSH tunneling VNC to my server at work
3) Server is running a remote X session tunneled into my workstation.


Change FreeBSD to Linux, and I use SSH likewise to access subscription only research and other library resources at school from home. It's actually fantastically convienient. No reason for an X session though.


4) Also ssh tunneled through my server to my VMware server cluster
5) Rebuilding the kernel on the master USING the cluster for DistCC
6) Chaning the kernel changes to all over slaves after the master completes


But most of that is Greek to me. (edit: Not VMware though, I suppose) :eek:


Oh yeah posting on the forums using links (like this but not in a windows envyronment)

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/general.jpg

**Clicks Edit-->Preferences-->Content and then unchecks "Load Images"**

:p :D

Change FreeBSD to Linux, and I use SSH likewise to access subscription only research and other library resources at school from home. It's actually fantastically convienient. No reason for an X session though.



But most of that is Greek to me. (edit: Not VMware though, I suppose) :eek:



**Clicks Edit-->Preferences-->Content and then unchecks "Load Images"**

:p :D

Yeah I just do it cause I can manage the sessions better but I have to punch through the boundary firewall first and bounce through to my machines. They reasonably dont want to punch a hole in the firewall for my work station

As for the image I linked it not posted it as an image :) Cause I know people get annoyed with my big screenshots lol

I don't get why people bitch about windows being unstable, I've owned my computer for 5 years and it's only crashed twice and both times I was doing something dumb like trying to install two programs at once while opening another one or something like that.
I can't imagine that macs are much better.

Oh, and my class has managed to crash the linux based undergrad computer thingy a lot this past week...

You lie. "Windows has encountered an error and needs to close"? Everyone gets those. Windows has never actually created a brand new operating system. All they do is add on to the previous one and never fully work out the kinks.

You lie. "Windows has encountered an error and needs to close"? Everyone gets those. Windows has never actually created a brand new operating system. All they do is add on to the previous one and never fully work out the kinks.

Not really their "Kernal" if you can call it that took a massive turn between ME and 2K (2K taking on a more NT like layout)
Now XP takes on a lot of similarities as 2K but vista is starting to divert again with a bit more separation between the layers and a whole new user rights layout (actually very Linuxesque)

As for the image I linked it not posted it as an image :) Cause I know people get annoyed with my big screenshots lol

It's not that. It's just that I can disable images and have a spiffy text-based browser too. Except I can use my mouse to click straight to a link, without having to mash through every link with Tab or an arrow key (inevitably mashing too much, missing the link I want, and having to go all around again.. :mad: :headbang: :D )

(edit: Of course, when I go and actually try it just now, it turns out that I could have used the mouse in the real text-based browser (elinks) the whole time. Oh well, I like surfing in more than 4 colors :D )

It's not that. It's just that I can disable images and have a spiffy text-based browser too. Except I can use my mouse to click straight to a link, without having to mash through every link with Tab or an arrow key (inevitably mashing too much, missing the link I want, and having to go all around again.. :mad: :headbang: :D )

Yeah but can you run that browser on a machine with only SSH enabled on it with no gui running whatsoever ?(x11 is not installed on the vm server)

Thats where it comes handy

Besides links you dont have to tab ... it reads positional information from the ssh terminal client and clicks the links

It is slick really so far ahead of lynx

Yeah but can you run that browser on a machine with only SSH enabled on it with no gui running whatsoever ?(x11 is not installed on the vm server)


I would assume that machine is broken. :D

(edit: I have used the text-based browser to get help when my own computer was acting up, and X was not available.)

I would assume that machine is broken. :D

(edit: I have used the text-based browser to get help when my own computer was acting up, and X was not available.)

Yeah its just handy when you are remoting into something without a gui

This is what the lancher uses to launch konqueror:
kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
WTF?

no difference... links and programs, which know how they are called and behave differently based on that is not really new. joe (the best editor, IMHO) already does that.

I argue with the poll distinctions because there is two different kind of Windows users, and one is WAAAAAAYYYYY nerdier than Mac users.

There's the "I use Windows because that's what came with the computer I could afford" bunch. No problem there.

The "I use Mac because I don't want to futz around with a lot of crap," which is nerdy to a degree, but I would argue is also a rally against unnecessary nerdiness...

Then, far nerdier, is the "I use Windows and customize and fiddle with and extend and tweak with every little nuance and bit of the damn thing and if you don't know all of the little tweaker shit that I spend most of my time doing instead of actually doing stuff with my computer (instead of to my computer) then you're a computer loser and should hand yours to me so I can build some other crazy nonsense thing with it." Way fucking nerdier than your average Mac users, who just wants his or her computer to do things.

Then, far nerdier, is the "I use Windows and customize and fiddle with and extend and tweak with every little nuance and bit of the damn thing and if you don't know all of the little tweaker shit that I spend most of my time doing instead of actually doing stuff with my computer (instead of to my computer) then you're a computer loser and should hand yours to me so I can build some other crazy nonsense thing with it." Way fucking nerdier than your average Mac users, who just wants his or her computer to do things.

There are Solaris-users, who 'just want to use the computer' and Linux-users, who 'use it to get support of their friends'. Being a nerd is an attitude, rather than an OS-choice.

DOS > All! *shakes autoexec.bat at people*

DOS > All! *shakes autoexec.bat at people*
O no! A shell script!

I would like to say all, or that I made my own, but not yet.
I like linux but has had little experience with it. and I have played with atari\amiga. but for now I would have to say dos.

I argue with the poll distinctions because there is two different kind of Windows users, and one is WAAAAAAYYYYY nerdier than Mac users.

There's the "I use Windows because that's what came with the computer I could afford" bunch. No problem there.

The "I use Mac because I don't want to futz around with a lot of crap," which is nerdy to a degree, but I would argue is also a rally against unnecessary nerdiness...

Then, far nerdier, is the "I use Windows and customize and fiddle with and extend and tweak with every little nuance and bit of the damn thing and if you don't know all of the little tweaker shit that I spend most of my time doing instead of actually doing stuff with my computer (instead of to my computer) then you're a computer loser and should hand yours to me so I can build some other crazy nonsense thing with it." Way fucking nerdier than your average Mac users, who just wants his or her computer to do things.

True I managed to eek my XP vm to a commit charge of just below 60

There are Solaris-users, who 'just want to use the computer' and Linux-users, who 'use it to get support of their friends'. Being a nerd is an attitude, rather than an OS-choice.

Solaris is a standardly supported (for any paid version) OS that is hard but nothing special

I would put gentoo users as more hardcore geeks (at least when not using a pre-packaged kernel) then out of the box solaris

Really? So it comes with every game you would ever want to play? Do they come with Frostwire?

DMG. Read it and covet. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.dmg)

It's basically a disk image that you "drag" to "Applications" (or where ever you want it) and that's it. Programme "installed."

Just a boring old microsoft user......

DMG. Read it and covet. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.dmg)

It's basically a disk image that you "drag" to "Applications" (or where ever you want it) and that's it. Programme "installed."

Meh. Everyone knows that Mac OS's have been going downhill all the way since System 6.08.