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Ok, so I was doing some channel surfing the other day, and saw this commercial for a new video game (it's called Viva Pinata). The concept of the game is that you play the role of a pinata in Pinata Island. After watching that commercial, I came to the realization that the video game companies must be tapped out on game ideas, because my 5 year old niece could have come up with that idea.

Between this game and the Burger King video games, the video game market's gone to hell. What do you think?

Nah, it's just glutted right now. Anyone can make 'em.

I disagree. The last few years have seen some fun and innovative games (Katamari Damacy, Psychonauts, etc.), and there are many more coming out soon (Spore, Portal, etc.). Sure, there's a lot of derivative crap out there, but the few gems more than make up for the rest.

Ok, so I was doing some channel surfing the other day, and saw this commercial for a new video game (it's called Viva Pinata). The concept of the game is that you play the role of a pinata in Pinata Island. After watching that commercial, I came to the realization that the video game companies must be tapped out on game ideas, because my 5 year old niece could have come up with that idea.

Between this game and the Burger King video games, the video game market's gone to hell. What do you think?

One bad game makes you think bad of the whole market? do you know how many idiot ideas there have been out there all the time.

Not really. As long as there are still good games to play, the industry is doing all right. Plus, you don't have to buy the crappy ones.

If you are mad because it is about pinatas instead of mad about the fact that the concept has been done 100 times before, you have no place judging the industry's status.

Between this game and the Burger King video games, the video game market's gone to hell. What do you think?


There were crappy advertising games in the "golden age" of gaming, too. Even Cool Spot was a bit dodgy.

One bad game makes you think bad of the whole market? do you know how many idiot ideas there have been out there all the time.

No, I'm just using Viva Pinata as an example. There are plenty of stupid games out there that make no sense to me (like the Picmin series). Add to the fact that there are some games that just won't die. Is there a need for ANOTHER Final Fantasy game? Finally, the video game industry needs to stop "remaking" classic games.

No, I'm just using Viva Pinata as an example. There are plenty of stupid games out there that make no sense to me (like the Picmin series). Add to the fact that there are some games that just won't die. Is there a need for ANOTHER Final Fantasy game? Finally, the video game industry needs to stop "remaking" classic games.

There are plenty of good games too ... I think part of it is cause the market is a lot bigger then it used to be when everything is so cross platform

I mean it is no longer the computer geek gaming it is the jock with a wii, it is the middle aged man with a xbox ... in the end the market keeps attracting people therefore is a bigger market

More idiots out there too

If you are mad because it is about pinatas instead of mad about the fact that the concept has been done 100 times before, you have no place judging the industry's status.

The fact that the concept is unoriginal IS one of my gripes. The fact that they picked pinatas as the focus was just the icing on the WTF cake.

Pal, we have shitty, pointless games created with every new generation, the Barbie Horse Adventures and the like. But the quality of good games outweighs the bad. I personally think that this is one of the best generations of gaming.

You want bad? Buddy, you should read up on the Video Game Depression of 1983, after the fallout of the E.T. Atari fiasco.

And Viva Pinata sounds kind of fun...And don't diss Pikmin...

There are plenty of good games too ... I think part of it is cause the market is a lot bigger then it used to be when everything is so cross platform

I mean it is no longer the computer geek gaming it is the jock with a wii, it is the middle aged man with a xbox ... in the end the market keeps attracting people therefore is a bigger market

More idiots out there too

Actually, most of the jocks I know of have an XBox, and the middle-aged men have Playstations (mostly PS2s).

Actually you don't play as a Pinata, you cultivate the garden and they come and live in it, it's like Animal Crossing and The Sims.

No, I'm just using Viva Pinata as an example. There are plenty of stupid games out there that make no sense to me (like the Picmin series). Add to the fact that there are some games that just won't die. Is there a need for ANOTHER Final Fantasy game? Finally, the video game industry needs to stop "remaking" classic games.

Pikmin isn't stupid! :eek: And it's particularly hard to understand.

He insults Rare and Shigeru Miyamoto in one post, what is this world coming too? :(

No, because the best game ever is gonna come out:

SPORE!

Actually, most of the jocks I know of have an XBox, and the middle-aged men have Playstations (mostly PS2s).

I was being random lol sorry just example of how the console crowd moves in the non geeks.

Pal, we have shitty, pointless games created with every new generation, the Barbie Horse Adventures and the like. But the quality of good games outweighs the bad. I personally think that this is one of the best generations of gaming.

You want bad? Buddy, you should read up on the Video Game Depression of 1983, after the fallout of the E.T. Atari fiasco.

And Viva Pinata sounds kind of fun...And don't diss Pikmin...

I don't need to read up on the Video Game Depression, I lived it. :(

No, because the best game ever is gonna come out:

SPORE!

I dunno dude, Sim City 4 was looking like the best thing ever, until they finally released it. The game still had all of the transit problems of Sim City 3000 and more... Not only did it have absolutely horrid algorithms for home-to-office-to-home commutes, it also had horrendous calculations for going from city to city (when a car would pass to the next city, its distance would carry over as it should've, but for some unknown reason, the entire round-trip distance of the next city would be added in the car's total trip distance, making the entire trip about four or more times longer than it should be). Along with this, we still had buildings that wouldn't appear correctly on diagonal roads, and a wonky RCI demand algorithm.

Maxis does some truly great stuff, but they never really deliver on their promises (SC4 and The Sims 2 were great, but you get my point).

Actually, most of the jocks I know of have an XBox, and the middle-aged men have Playstations (mostly PS2s).

It really depends on who you ask. I'm far from from "jock-like", and I have a 360.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just a complete stiff when it comes to generalizations. :p

It really depends on who you ask. I'm far from from "jock-like", and I have a 360.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just a complete stiff when it comes to generalizations. :p

Now now, I didn't say that any of the jocks I know of had 360s. ;)

No, because the best game ever is gonna come out:

SPORE!

No way, the best video game ever is going to be Flight Simulator 11 :D (I don't actually believe this).

I dunno dude, Sim City 4 was looking like the best thing ever, until they finally released it. The game still had all of the transit problems of Sim City 3000 and more... Not only did it have absolutely horrid algorithms for home-to-office-to-home commutes, it also had horrendous calculations for going from city to city (when a car would pass to the next city, its distance would carry over as it should've, but for some unknown reason, the entire round-trip distance of the next city would be added in the car's total trip distance, making the entire trip about four or more times longer than it should be). Along with this, we still had buildings that wouldn't appear correctly on diagonal roads, and a wonky RCI demand algorithm.

Maxis does some truly great stuff, but they never really deliver on their promises (SC4 and The Sims 2 were great, but you get my point).
Well you're right about Sim City 4..it kinda sucked in my opinion. But Maxis REALLY pulled it off with Sims and Sims 2 (which I really enjoyed and I thought was better than Sims)...so I have faith. I've seen the pictures for Spore and read ther previews and shit so far, it seems fucking amazing. Its totally unique, no game like it before. I think Maxis can pull it off. I really think they can.

(I don't actually believe this).
You better not, because Spore is going to own ass-nuggets!

As long as WoW stays around I will be sated.

Well you're right about Sim City 4..it kinda sucked in my opinion. But Maxis REALLY pulled it off with Sims and Sims 2 (which I really enjoyed and I thought was better than Sims)...so I have faith. I've seen the pictures for Spore and read ther previews and shit so far, it seems fucking amazing. Its totally unique, no game like it before. I think Maxis can pull it off. I really think they can.

They really did pull of a hit with The Sims 2, but I felt that it was lacking in a few departments, namely the products you could buy from the get-go (damn EA and their expansion-milking escapades). I also thought it was odd that you couldn't put pieces of furniture or decorations in/on diagonal tiles (diagonal tiles seem to be a problem for Maxis), plus the lifespan of individual sims was really short. And, there was no standard basement building option; instead, you had to do it all by yourself, and that was a very long, tedious, and error-prone process.

I think that Spore will be great, but I have reservations as to whether it'll be fantastic.

Who doesn't know what a Piñata is?

They really did pull of a hit with The Sims 2, but I felt that it was lacking in a few departments, namely the products you could buy from the get-go (damn EA and their expansion-milking escapades). I also thought it was odd that you couldn't put pieces of furniture or decorations in/on diagonal tiles (diagonal tiles seem to be a problem for Maxis), plus the lifespan of individual sims was really short. And, there was no standard basement building option; instead, you had to do it all by yourself, and that was a very long, tedious, and error-prone process.

I think that Spore will be great, but I have reservations as to whether it'll be fantastic.
Yes, but the Sims has always been lacking in the product area, simply because, like you said, they want to milk their expansions.

I AGREE! I HATED THE DIAGNOL PROBLEMS! I never really wanted to build a basement, and I usually kept the life span on pause, because it was more fun with them not aging.

I think Spore will be amazing, and I cant wait to build my own awesome creature and devolp my own master species!:p

One bad game makes you think bad of the whole market? do you know how many idiot ideas there have been out there all the time.

*cou-ET (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_game#.22The_worst_video_game_of_all_time.22)-gh*

*cou-ET (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_game#.22The_worst_video_game_of_all_time.22)-gh*

Lord help us all should that thing arise from its grave...

No, because the best game ever is gonna come out:

SPORE!

Heil Will Wright! Heil!

Heil Will Wright! Heil!
He even sports the same look as Adolf:

http://www.nndb.com/people/670/000057499/wright-enl.jpg
http://www.scep.nl/verzet/images/illu/portret_hitler_(rechten-Ver.jpg
That patch of pubic hair looks so retarded on both Hitler and Wright, lol.:D

Totally agree, gone are the days of Deus Ex replaced by eye-candy reality-zero-$hitbag games which greatest feature is its "realistic physics".

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No, I'm just using Viva Pinata as an example. There are plenty of stupid games out there that make no sense to me (like the Picmin series). Add to the fact that there are some games that just won't die. Is there a need for ANOTHER Final Fantasy game? Finally, the video game industry needs to stop "remaking" classic games.

Pikmin was awesome. And if you wanna complain about remakes, I point you in the direction of Hollywood.

No, because the best game ever is gonna come out:

SPORE!

ZOMG! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

ZOMG! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

As expected, Spore is so awesome, it broke NSG.

ZOMG! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
hey minaris, this scrollbar o' doom thing is not funny.

hey minaris, this scrollbar o' doom thing is not funny.

SPORE is worth it.

SPORE is worth it.

it's no excuse to make a scrollbar o' doom.

it's no excuse to make a scrollbar o' doom.

Yes. It is.

Yes. It is.

give me 3 good reasons why thats a good excuse to make a scrollbar o' doom.

give me 3 good reasons why thats a good excuse to make a scrollbar o' doom.



It's Spore
C'est Spore
Es Spore

i dont think the video game market is going to pot. Nintendo sure isnt. The Wii and DS have/will revolutionise the gaming industry. Nintendo always comes up with new ideas, rather than only going for better graphics. yes, Sony has got a great handheld out, but N has monopolised that for nearly 20 years already. (is that right? i dunno when it first came out) and it has better prices than sony. i mean PS3: £500?? I dont think so :p

[/Hailing Nintendo]

It's Spore
C'est Spore
Es Spore

none of those are good reasons. whta is this spore anyway?

Ok, so I was doing some channel surfing the other day, and saw this commercial for a new video game (it's called Viva Pinata). The concept of the game is that you play the role of a pinata in Pinata Island. After watching that commercial, I came to the realization that the video game companies must be tapped out on game ideas, because my 5 year old niece could have come up with that idea.

Between this game and the Burger King video games, the video game market's gone to hell. What do you think?there has always been lots of bad games. this is nothing new.

The video game business went to hell with the upcoming of the internet.
Back then, then games had to be complete and running before they entered the market...

Nowadays, you and I are used as the testers and the interweb is used to give us 5 billion gigs worth of patches...

none of those are good reasons. whta is this spore anyway?

Spore (www.google.com).

How much do you think someone would pay for those E.T. Cartridge? I mean I know the game sucks and all, but the fact that it may be the only usable one left may bring in some value?

How much do you think someone would pay for those E.T. Cartridge? I mean I know the game sucks and all, but the fact that it may be the only usable one left may bring in some value?

They buried them out in the middle of the desert...and then paved over them. They now reside under a mini-mall I think...

ZOMG! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

We should do this whenever MTAE makes a thread...

I think the emphasis on graphics of recent video games has meant that the gameplay and storylines (if any) tend to lose out a little, and many games are much shorter than their predecessors as well. Still, graphics are good.

Im hard pressed to remember a game in the last 5 years except for Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, which Ive found genuinely fun. FPSs have become so tame, back in the day games like doom and quake scared me shitless, there was a real element of terror/menace (probably all the demonic imagery) which I find lacking in games today. Games just seem so homogenized, for example sega rally was so cheesy that it stood out, you wouldnt get that level of cheese anymore, or at least I havent come across it. And what really annoys me is games which is too story driven to the extent that half of its content is taken up with explanatory sequences. Overly long tutorials are crap as well. The object of any game should be fun, not how many cool features you can put into it.

Ok, so I was doing some channel surfing the other day, and saw this commercial for a new video game (it's called Viva Pinata). The concept of the game is that you play the role of a pinata in Pinata Island. After watching that commercial, I came to the realization that the video game companies must be tapped out on game ideas, because my 5 year old niece could have come up with that idea.

Between this game and the Burger King video games, the video game market's gone to hell. What do you think?
Nah. The review I read on Viva Pinata was rather amazed at the unexpected depth of the game.
Besides, there have always been crappy games out. the Burger King ones are mainly a promotion gag by Burger King that wasn't possible before.

SYSTEM SHOCK!!!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/Aenimus/19Oct72_ShodanA.gif
"Lo-lo-look at you, Hacker. A pa-pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you ru-run through my corridors-s. H-h-how can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?"

No, you're wrong! :p

Anytime there is a big market you're gonna have a fair share of crap. There are still good ones out and more coming out. Like the one in my sig, that someone earlier in this thread mentioned.

Yes, but the Sims has always been lacking in the product area, simply because, like you said, they want to milk their expansions.

I AGREE! I HATED THE DIAGNOL PROBLEMS! I never really wanted to build a basement, and I usually kept the life span on pause, because it was more fun with them not aging.

I think Spore will be amazing, and I cant wait to build my own awesome creature and devolp my own master species!:p


Me either! I think .. hope it's going to be VERY versatile. Looking forward to it.

Spore (www.google.com).
whta?

We should do this whenever MTAE makes a thread...

agreed.

whta?


wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spore_(video_game))

Google vid -- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8372603330420559198

Spore site - http://www.spore.com/

Yes, but the Sims has always been lacking in the product area, simply because, like you said, they want to milk their expansions.

I AGREE! I HATED THE DIAGNOL PROBLEMS! I never really wanted to build a basement, and I usually kept the life span on pause, because it was more fun with them not aging.

I think Spore will be amazing, and I cant wait to build my own awesome creature and devolp my own master species!:p

Your own master race, huh? This sounds like the perfect game for Ny Nordland...

In other news, is anyone else put off my the title "Spore"? It just reminds me of the spores in The Immortal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immortal_%28computer_game%29)... which basically cause instant death whenever you use them. Although, that was true for pretty much every item in that game...

EDIT: This thread needs this:
http://www.whipassgaming.com/images/genesis/immortal_death11.gif
The Immortal pwns.

Your own master race, huh? This sounds like the perfect game for Ny Nordland...

i think i might sig that.

i think i might sig that.

Why, thank you. :D

agreed.

Done.
:D

SYSTEM SHOCK!!!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/Aenimus/19Oct72_ShodanA.gif
"Lo-lo-look at you, Hacker. A pa-pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you ru-run through my corridors-s. H-h-how can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?"

The same guys who made System Shock are coming out with a new FPS/RPG for the PC and Xbox360: Bioshock.

From what I've seen it's alot like System Shock: creepy, good story, deep gameplay...except its in the '60s...and underwater...

Pikmin was awesome. And if you wanna complain about remakes, I point you in the direction of Hollywood.
Agreed. I really liked Pikmin, though I never played the sequal. (Did it even come out?)
ZOMG! SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSPPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Thats what she said. No, but seriously, Spore promises to be fucking awesome.
hey minaris, this scrollbar o' doom thing is not funny.
Silence, infidel. (ALLAHAHAHHAAHALALAHAH *you know, that arab tongue rolling screech*)....Do not question Spore.
Me either! I think .. hope it's going to be VERY versatile. Looking forward to it.
Yes. I read that you can choose not to take the evolutionary jump out of water, so I think I will make some kind of underwater dragon race.:cool:
Your own master race, huh? This sounds like the perfect game for Ny Nordland...
My master race will dominate the globe, and then THE UNIVERSE! MWAHHAHA

Me either! I think .. hope it's going to be VERY versatile. Looking forward to it.

I'm reserving judgement. We were burned pretty badly by Fable. That was another game that was supposed to be all-encompassing.

I'm reserving judgement. We were burned pretty badly by Fable. That was another game that was supposed to be all-encompassing.
Yeah, but fable wasnt made by the God that is Will that created The Sims.;)

Yeah, but fable wasnt made by the God that is Will that created The Sims.;)

Peter Molyneaux was in charge of Fable. Not exactly a second rate developer.

Nope, the new nintendo wii means video game fun everlasting for all ages.

Ok, so I was doing some channel surfing the other day, and saw this commercial for a new video game (it's called Viva Pinata). The concept of the game is that you play the role of a pinata in Pinata Island. After watching that commercial, I came to the realization that the video game companies must be tapped out on game ideas, because my 5 year old niece could have come up with that idea.

Between this game and the Burger King video games, the video game market's gone to hell. What do you think?

Well, I don't think so. They're making Devil May Cry 4 so I guess they aren't so gone yet.

Nope, the new nintendo wii means video game fun everlasting for all ages.
no. i don't think so.

no. i don't think so.

Then I don't think you understand the implications of the motion-capture controllers.

The video game business went to hell with the upcoming of the internet.
Back then, then games had to be complete and running before they entered the market...

Nowadays, you and I are used as the testers and the interweb is used to give us 5 billion gigs worth of patches...

I hear that in Lumines you had to pay for the bits they left out.

Agreed. I really liked Pikmin, though I never played the sequal. (Did it even come out?)

Yes it did. I never played it though. There were white pikmin that were immune to poison gas, and poisonous themselves. And purple pikmin that could lift 10 times as much as a normal and created shockwaves when you threw them. There was also no time limit and a multiplayer.

The video game market deserves all the shit it can self-destruct with.

the videogame market needs to stop rushing out games... I've spent the last month pounding my head into the wall after encountering numerous game-stopping bugs in both NWN 2 and Gothic 3 :headbang:

Then I don't think you understand the implications of the motion-capture controllers.

*Gregorian chanting is heard in the background*

Then I don't think you understand the implications of the motion-capture controllers.
i do. i just think it's over-rated.

The video game market deserves all the shit it can self-destruct with.

Now, why would you say a mean thing like that?

i do. i just think it's over-rated.
QFT.

the videogame market needs to stop rushing out games... I've spent the last month pounding my head into the wall after encountering numerous game-stopping bugs in both NWN 2 and Gothic 3 :headbang:

I concur with the honorable Zealiria. I would much prefer a game be delayed and have it be the one of the most satisfying gaming experiences I've had...than have it rushed and be so disapointed that I would need to beat up the publisher.

Look at the new Zelda for example, it was delayed for over a year to fully integrate the Wii controler into the game...but it's so...perfect now...*drools, then cries, realizing that he still doesn't have a Wii yet*

You can over-delay things however. Look at Blizzard...they say, "OH! Out in summer of 2003!" then WHOOPS...it's still not out.

I concur with the honorable Zealiria. I would much prefer a game be delayed and have it be the one of the most satisfying gaming experiences I've had...than have it rushed and be so disapointed that I would need to beat up the publisher.
That's never gonna happen. If a publisher thinks it can make more money by rush-shipping a game, they'll do it. We call this system "capitalism", and it works great a lot of the time, and not so great the rest of the time.

Look at the new Zelda for example, it was delayed for over a year to fully integrate the Wii controler into the game...but it's so...perfect now...*drools, then cries, realizing that he still doesn't have a Wii yet*
a. You haven't played it. How do you know it's perfect?
b. It's not perfect. Perfection is, as far has humankind knows, impossible.
c. It's yet another 3D Zelda. The 2Ds were much better.
d. The ol' Zelda formula is getting old. The franchise needs a new storyline, and hard.

You can over-delay things however. Look at Blizzard...they say, "OH! Out in summer of 2003!" then WHOOPS...it's still not out.
Meh. That game was gonna suck anyway.

Their tactic for Starcraft 2 seems to be similar to that of the PS3: their going to let demand reach critical mass so they can shift as many units as possible.

That's never gonna happen. If a publisher thinks it can make more money by rush-shipping a game, they'll do it. We call this system "capitalism", and it works great a lot of the time, and not so great the rest of the time.

I'm not saying that they won't I'm just saying that they shouldn't, and I have seen the trend that when a game is delayed for design purposes the end product tends to be better


a. You haven't played it. How do you know it's perfect?
b. It's not perfect. Perfection is, as far has humankind knows, impossible.
c. It's yet another 3D Zelda. The 2Ds were much better.
d. The ol' Zelda formula is getting old. The franchise needs a new storyline, and hard.

I'm in my nerd mode. STOP TRYING TO RUIN MY MOMENT!

I will say that Zelda needs to get some voice actors though...mmm...yes...indeed...

Meh. That game was gonna suck anyway.

Their tactic for Starcraft 2 seems to be similar to that of the PS3: their going to let demand reach critical mass so they can shift as many units as possible.

And then there comes the resulting tramplings! :D

hm, the nintendo Wii has just come out with unbelievable technology with the wireless motion controllers, and the xbox 360 keeps releasing awesome titles such as Call of Duty 3, GOW, and soon to be titles such as Halo 3 and the new Brothers in Arms.

I mean, the video game market is just gonna keep increasing. Not all games have such poor concepts such as this Pinata game and Burger King racer or w/e.

All I know is that EA needs to stop making games or to just stick with sports games. I just beat Superman Returns (which I rented, thank God) in about 8 hours and I don't have any reasonable explanation why I stuck it out that long. They fuck up Lord of the Rings games... they fuck up a lot of games they get the licenses for.

All I know is that EA needs to stop making games or to just stick with sports games. I just beat Superman Returns (which I rented, thank God) in about 8 hours and I don't have any reasonable explanation why I stuck it out that long. They fuck up Lord of the Rings games... they fuck up a lot of games they get the licenses for.

*nods knowingly*

EA has what I call the "reverse Midas touch*, whereas everything they touch (outside of sports games which even I will agree are quite lovely), turns to shit.

All I know is that EA needs to stop making games or to just stick with sports games. I just beat Superman Returns (which I rented, thank God) in about 8 hours and I don't have any reasonable explanation why I stuck it out that long. They fuck up Lord of the Rings games... they fuck up a lot of games they get the licenses for.
This:
That's never gonna happen. If a publisher thinks it can make more money by rush-shipping a game, they'll do it. We call this system "capitalism", and it works great a lot of the time, and not so great the rest of the time.
also applies here.

*nods knowingly*

EA has what I call the "reverse Midas touch*, whereas everything they touch (outside of sports games which even I will agree are quite lovely), turns to shit.
Nein. All they do for sports games is change the rosters yearly.

i do. i just think it's over-rated.

The developers are stilling churning out crappy ideas like the first year or so with the DS. But Galaxy looks really really fun. That controller shouldn't be underestimated, but it shouldn't be overestimated either.

Your own master race, huh? This sounds like the perfect game for Ny Nordland...
Or me... <.<

Peter Molyneaux was in charge of Fable. Not exactly a second rate developer.
And Black & White 1 and 2. Both awesome. ^^

Right now I am busy with Heroes V and its expansion. Most enjoyable strategy game since Age of Wonders 2 (and Majesty...). :)

Nein. All they do for sports games is change the rosters yearly.

Ach. That's really why I never got into it. Good for parties though.

Or me... <.<

you racist too?

And Black & White 1 and 2. Both awesome. ^^

Right now I am busy with Heroes V and its expansion. Most enjoyable strategy game since Age of Wonders 2 (and Majesty...). :)
Bleh. I haven't liked any of the Heroes since III...

Ach. That's really why I never got into it. Good for parties though.
Yeah... playing sports games alone sucks.

you racist too?
Oh come on. There is a certain draw to creating your own master species and ruling the planet, then the galaxy with them.

you racist too?
A wee bit. But that is besides the point. If I can create my own Master-race I will annihilate all that stands in my way. <.< I am wavering between dark elves and undead.

http://files.maps4heroes.com/heroes5/pictures/necropolis/cr5.jpg VS http://files.maps4heroes.com/heroes5/pictures/dungeon/6.jpg

Bleh. I haven't liked any of the Heroes since III...
V is awesome though. Especially the way they reworked the game from the ground up, and introduced an improved skill system. The Necropolis and Dungeon are the best now (well, the former more so in my personal opinion). :D I love how they got rid of most of the Dungeon's uglies and replaced them with the ferocious dark elves. Plus they did it in a cool way. :)

A wee bit. But that is besides the point. If I can create my own Master-race I will annihilate all that stands in my way. <.< I am wavering between dark elves and undead.

http://files.maps4heroes.com/heroes5/pictures/necropolis/cr5.jpg VS http://files.maps4heroes.com/heroes5/pictures/dungeon/6.jpg
Hold the phone... you can actually be those? :drools:

V is awesome though. Especially the way they reworked the game from the ground up, and introduced an improved skill system. The Necropolis and Dungeon are the best now (well, the former more so in my personal opinion). :D I love how they got rid of most of the Dungeon's uglies and replaced them with the ferocious dark elves. Plus they did it in a cool way. :)
I don't really like the battle system. I think the new sprites (models? What the hell do we call them nowadays?) are pretty awesome, though... I miss the older system.

What really disappointed me was when I saw the ads for V, it made it seem like the new battle system would be like the Total War battles. Which would truly pwn.

Hold the phone... you can actually be those? :drools:
No. Well, not sure. But that is the Lich and the Shadow Witch (Dungeon's unupgraded 6th-tier elite) from Heroes V. I want to create something like either, or perhaps a mix of both of them. <.< I doubt I'll be able to though. :(

What really disappointed me was when I saw the ads for V, it made it seem like the new battle system would be like the Total War battles. Which would truly pwn.
The battle system is still much the same, but I like it. It's the reason I play Heroes. I'm not a fan of RTS games, other than Majesty (which was more of a sim anyway, and should get a sequel...). I'd rather play a turn-based game like Age of Wonders II or Disciples II.