NationStates Jolt Archive


Liability has gone TOO Far

Okielahoma
26-11-2006, 00:52
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/18/attleboro_elementary_school_bans_tag/
Ok this has gone tooo far. Kids at school these days cant do anything they used to be able to. We have an obesity problem and yet we ban activities at recess that might burn calories. Banning dodgeball because its dangerous and exclusionary? Exculsionary i mean come on, its a competitive game its gonna be exculsionary. I can see banning tackle football, but TAG AND TOUCH FOOTBALL. WTF IS HAPPENING TO OUR US? Its a result of overzealous parents who sue at the drop of the hat, and in influx of alot more lawyers.
Darknovae
26-11-2006, 00:53
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/18/attleboro_elementary_school_bans_tag/
Ok this has gone tooo far. Kids at school these days cant do anything they used to be able to. We have an obesity problem and yet we ban activities at recess that might burn calories. Banning dodgeball because its dangerous and exclusionary? Exculsionary i mean come on, its a competitive game its gonna be exculsionary. I can see banning tackle football, but TAG AND TOUCH FOOTBALL. WTF IS HAPPENING TO OUR US? Its a result of overzealous parents who sue at the drop of the hat, and in influx of alot more lawyers.

Welcome to America.

And you were beaten to this a LONNG time ago.
Neesika
26-11-2006, 00:56
And if you couldn't sue at the drop of a hat, you'd bitch about government interference.
Okielahoma
26-11-2006, 01:05
And if you couldn't sue at the drop of a hat, you'd bitch about government interference.
*Okie sues Neesika for slander
Don't you ever cuss in front of me again!

Crap beaten again--
Darknoave "Welcome to America" Home of the Wimps
New Xero Seven
26-11-2006, 01:06
Tis old nose.
Nevertheless, I still think what they did is uber dumb.
Neesika
26-11-2006, 01:09
*Okie sues Neesika for slander
Don't you ever cuss in front of me again! For it to be slander, it'd have to be untrue...and damage your reputation...which I think is an impossibility in both cases:D
Ifreann
26-11-2006, 01:16
Quick, lets ban tarmac surfacing! Children might fall on it and hurt themselves!

Won't somebody please thing of the children!

:rolleyes:
Desperate Measures
26-11-2006, 01:19
I say we ban children. There is too much that can happen to them in this complex world. The only way to keep children safe is not keep them at all.
Kryozerkia
26-11-2006, 01:22
I say we'll hit a legal clout where this all goes too far, and the ruling will serve to reverse previous ruling that were an attempt to 'protect' children. Just give it time. Someone will come up with a countersuit, saying that running from a dodge ball is better than looking like one.
Okielahoma
26-11-2006, 01:42
For it to be slander, it'd have to be untrue...and damage your reputation...which I think is an impossibility in both cases
T
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:D Right...
Johnny B Goode
26-11-2006, 01:57
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/18/attleboro_elementary_school_bans_tag/
Ok this has gone tooo far. Kids at school these days cant do anything they used to be able to. We have an obesity problem and yet we ban activities at recess that might burn calories. Banning dodgeball because its dangerous and exclusionary? Exculsionary i mean come on, its a competitive game its gonna be exculsionary. I can see banning tackle football, but TAG AND TOUCH FOOTBALL. WTF IS HAPPENING TO OUR US? Its a result of overzealous parents who sue at the drop of the hat, and in influx of alot more lawyers.

There should be a mandatory IQ test before every use of the legal system.
Posi
26-11-2006, 02:17
I say we ban children. There is too much that can happen to them in this complex world. The only way to keep children safe is not keep them at all.

Here, here!
Kryozerkia
26-11-2006, 02:20
There should be a mandatory IQ test before every use of the legal system.

No, a mandatory common sense test makes more sense.
Darknovae
26-11-2006, 02:26
I say we'll hit a legal clout where this all goes too far, and the ruling will serve to reverse previous ruling that were an attempt to 'protect' children. Just give it time. Someone will come up with a countersuit, saying that running from a dodge ball is better than looking like one.

Hence my story, "Think of the Children!!"

It may be set in 2022, but I think it's gonna come true.
Ifreann
26-11-2006, 02:29
Hence my story, "Think of the Children!!"

It may be set in 2022, but I think it's gonna come true.

If it does you'll probably be able to sue existence for ripping off your book.
Darknovae
26-11-2006, 02:30
If it does you'll probably be able to sue existence for ripping off your book.

I could get billions for that........ :D
Ifreann
26-11-2006, 02:31
I could get billions for that........ :D

The question is, billions from whom?
Darknovae
26-11-2006, 02:32
The question is, billions from whom?

The Christian God?
Seangoli
26-11-2006, 02:34
Well, next thing that's going to happen is that parents will sue schools because their kids are fat from not getting enough exercise. Somehow I can actually see this happening.
Kryozerkia
26-11-2006, 02:50
Well, next thing that's going to happen is that parents will sue schools because their kids are fat from not getting enough exercise. Somehow I can actually see this happening.

Then we'll see the rulings banning various sports like dodge ball get thrown out because it was parents who got the ruling in the first place and are now contradicting themselves.
Seangoli
26-11-2006, 02:54
Then we'll see the rulings banning various sports like dodge ball get thrown out because it was parents who got the ruling in the first place and are now contradicting themselves.

Then parents will sue because of emotional damage due to all the fat kids being excluded from the games(or picked last). It's a round about system, methinks. Really, this is just comic. I was always last picked, played the worst, and got hit smack dab in the face on several occasions, and I loved the game. These parents need to toughen up their kids, and stop babying them. Parents these days coddle their kids, and it's only going to harm them when they enter real life, and can't deal with actual problems.
Zagat
26-11-2006, 04:56
So when a child is completely outside the control of their parents and completely in the control of the school, the parent who is utterly unable to act to avoid injury ought to be burdened with the costs of any injury while the school who does have the means of avoiding injury ought not to be held accountable in any way?:confused:
Seangoli
26-11-2006, 06:20
So when a child is completely outside the control of their parents and completely in the control of the school, the parent who is utterly unable to act to avoid injury ought to be burdened with the costs of any injury while the school who does have the means of avoiding injury ought not to be held accountable in any way?:confused:

No, this is moreso a debate about how games such as Dodgeball, tag, etc are being banned left and right because the school might be at risk for liability, with parents suing for minor scrapes and such, and "emotional damage" caused by kids being "left out" or being "it" and other such nonsense.

My only word: MAN UP!

This coming from someone who sucked at dodgeball, was left out repeatedly, and loved the game.
Gun Manufacturers
26-11-2006, 06:46
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/10/18/attleboro_elementary_school_bans_tag/
Ok this has gone tooo far. Kids at school these days cant do anything they used to be able to. We have an obesity problem and yet we ban activities at recess that might burn calories. Banning dodgeball because its dangerous and exclusionary? Exculsionary i mean come on, its a competitive game its gonna be exculsionary. I can see banning tackle football, but TAG AND TOUCH FOOTBALL. WTF IS HAPPENING TO OUR US? Its a result of overzealous parents who sue at the drop of the hat, and in influx of alot more lawyers.

You want to talk "risk of injury"? When I was in high school, our gym class used to have a few days of archery class. Nothing like a bunch of kids playing around with projectile weaponry.

I'm suprised there isn't a call from parents to ban shop classes. After all, little Bobby might get a sliver, and need to be taken to the critical care center. :rolleyes:
Zagat
26-11-2006, 07:04
No, this is moreso a debate about how games such as Dodgeball, tag, etc are being banned left and right because the school might be at risk for liability, with parents suing for minor scrapes and such, and "emotional damage" caused by kids being "left out" or being "it" and other such nonsense.

My only word: MAN UP!

This coming from someone who sucked at dodgeball, was left out repeatedly, and loved the game.
If you dont let parents sue, then the school is absolved of responsibility and the parents are obliged to be financially accountable for circumstances they have no control over. I certainly dont agree that it is good or even acceptable to sue schools for emotional damage when what has occured is nothing more than the usual ups and downs that are in fact beneficial to a child's development.

The problem is ensuring those with the ability to control what the kids are up to and the level of danger they are exposed to are the ones accountable for the costs of avoidable injury (and emotional damage in most cases in not a real cost of such incidences in my opinion).

I didnt like dodgball personally, but neither did I enounter a single significant injury (emotional or physical) in all my experiance with the game.

This still doesnt answer the question of whether you prevent parents suing and they are therefore accountable for the negligence of the schools (where this is a factor in injury), or you leave open the possibility that schools will be needlessly sued.
New Domici
26-11-2006, 07:05
And if you couldn't sue at the drop of a hat, you'd bitch about government interference.

The answer is never to prohibit suing. For one thing all it does is create extra lawsuits when people sue for the right to sue, and then sue having won the right to sue. The other is stepping on the rights of people to seek redress of their grievences with the government.

The answer is to make it a law that a sufficiently frivolous lawsuit should count as harrassment. That way when you sue someone for your having injured yourself breaking into their building, they can counter sue for litigatory harassment and trespassing. Of course, using this law to scare people away from suing you when you are clearly doing something wrong would also count as harassment, and doing that could get your penalties doubled if... let's say a construction company drops an I-beam on your kid and then says they'll sue you for harrassment if you try to get them to pay for the funeral.