NationStates Jolt Archive


crazy russia

Gorias
25-11-2006, 15:42
i'm sorry if a topic about this was made today, but i didnt see one.
you know that russian wx-spy guy that was killed? he was poisoned by polonium 210. thats radioactive. only a government or a very large power has access to something like that. its not something easey to get. it has to be properly manufactured. and thiers risk that some public people in london good be poisoned by it if they were in the same places he was.

so who do you think did it?
he was very anti-putin, maybe it was putin?
or he was poisoned by other anti-putins. think about it. if putin wanted him silenced he would have killed him quicker. the fact that the poison takes weeks to work, forces the ex-spy to spill as many beans as posible.
Swilatia
25-11-2006, 16:18
we had loads of threads about this.
Drunk commies deleted
25-11-2006, 16:23
I think it's all a publicity stunt for the new James Bond movie. The entertainment industry is really getting out of hand. They had a man killed to revive the old cold war era mindset in the public so the new Bond movie will make more money. It's almost as bad as when they shot JFK.
I V Stalin
25-11-2006, 16:25
Unlikely it would have poisoned anyone else - Scotland Yard said that the levels found in public places (such as the sushi bar where the poisoning allegedly occurred) was not high enough to pose a serious risk to the public.

It's a little suspicious that another serious critic of Putin's government has died in mysterious circumstances, after Anna Politskaya (sp?), the journalist. However, as the OP says, Putin probably would have had him killed more efficiently - although it might have been difficult for the assassin to have delivered the full does to Litvinenko. Or the Russian's may have thought that if it looked amateurish, they wouldn't be suspected.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the work of the Russian government, but I'm not going to outright say that it was, because it currently looks inconclusive.
Greyenivol Colony
25-11-2006, 16:29
Russia once again proves that they do not belong in the civilised world.
New Burmesia
25-11-2006, 17:44
Putin, but it's just a hunch.

BTW, does anyone see a Union Flag instead of a blue line on the 'no'?
Greater Trostia
25-11-2006, 17:45
Oh, yeah, it's probably The Jews. :rolleyes:
Markreich
25-11-2006, 18:01
communist muslims - these would be the Chechnyaians, right?
Gorias
25-11-2006, 18:03
communist muslims - these would be the Chechnyaians, right?

whoa that actually makes sense.
Markreich
25-11-2006, 18:11
whoa that actually makes sense.

Don't worry, I'm sure it was unintentional.... we're on the forums after all.
Kanabia
25-11-2006, 18:11
only a government or a very large power has access to something like that. its not something easey to get.

Here, $69. (http://www.unitednuclear.com/isotopes.htm)
Gorias
25-11-2006, 18:14
Here, $69. (http://www.unitednuclear.com/isotopes.htm)

sweet jesus. does iran know about this?
Kanabia
25-11-2006, 18:18
sweet jesus. does iran know about this?

What use would they have for microgram quantities of radioactive waste?
Gorias
25-11-2006, 18:21
What use would they have for microgram quantities of radioactive waste?

just joking.
Kanabia
25-11-2006, 18:23
just joking.

Oh. :P Hard to tell on here sometimes. Carry on. >.>
New Xero Seven
25-11-2006, 18:26
And what exactly was this spy spying on in the first place? Eh?!
Call to power
25-11-2006, 19:39
Well if Russia wanted to kill this spy I don’t think they would bother poisoning him blowing up a small part of London would do the trick and nobody would suspect the Russians (its not like Russia in past experience cares about civilians)

I suspect that it may have been a joint effort by MI5 and FSB maybe this spy had loose lips around the wrong people?
Yossarian Lives
25-11-2006, 20:50
Whoever did this was probably ex KGB, whether that's Putin himself or elements within the security service or ex KGB members in the russian mafia.

The use of Polonium was clearly intended to send a message not to say bad things about the FSB etc.

The only issue is why the dosage was low enough to let him live long enough to get loads of anti-putin publicity in.
If it was Putin it could have been a mistake, the dosage is probably difficult to measure accurately. It's possible that Putin doesn't care, i mean you just have to look at his comments at conferences for instance when he made jokes about Blair and Lord Levy, to see that he doesn't give a toss what the West thinks of him. And you just have to look at some of the comments posted by Russians on the BBC website to see that the Putin propaganda machine in Russia means it won't affect his popularity at home.

I don't think you're ever going to say for certain, although maybe in like 50 years time you'll get someone publishing memoirs saying whodunnit
Although I don't trust that Putin one bit, and he certainly could have done it.
Greyenivol Colony
25-11-2006, 21:26
Here, $69. (http://www.unitednuclear.com/isotopes.htm)

That website is terrible... text overlaps, stupid spinning .gifs, a mile long page with only a few lines of content... I mean Christ, stuff like that shouldn't be allowed on the internets.