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Rwanda breaks off diplomatic relations with France

Congo--Kinshasa
25-11-2006, 06:39
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6179436.stm

Thoughts?
Lacadaemon
25-11-2006, 06:57
I'm sure the french are all ripped up about this. What with them being such an important ally an all.
Zatarack
25-11-2006, 07:15
Oh my God... a small landlocked country with a population of 8 million is breaking off diplomatic ties with France!
Kyronea
25-11-2006, 08:19
Oh my God... a small landlocked country with a population of 8 million is breaking off diplomatic ties with France!
There are so many jokes one could make with that...but I'll make the obvious one: Due to the diplomatic relations break-off, France surrenders to Rwanda.
Wilgrove
25-11-2006, 08:24
In other news, the French still won't fight.

Now we go to our blackie weather forecast with Ollie Williams.

It's raining sideways!

Thank you Ollie.
Lacadaemon
25-11-2006, 08:49
Why is everyone so down on the French?

No-one ever picks on the cowardly Danish or Dutch. At least there was a 'Battle of France'. I don't recall any battle of denmark.

And how about those swedish 'my dear herr hitler, please have some more strategic metals,' fukers.

No, I guess those guys were awesome.
Dryks Legacy
25-11-2006, 08:52
Why is everyone so down on the French?

No-one ever picks on the cowardly Danish or Dutch. At least there was a 'Battle of France'. I don't recall any battle of denmark.

And how about those swedish 'my dear herr hitler, please have some more strategic metals,' fukers.

No, I guess those guys were awesome.

The Dutch are too busy screwing and/or smoking everything in site.
Delator
25-11-2006, 11:07
The Dutch are too busy screwing and/or smoking everything in site.

That's a bad thing? :D
[NS]Trilby63
25-11-2006, 11:20
That's a bad thing? :D

It is if you get confused about which is to be smoked and which is to screwed.




Have you ever smelt burning pubes?
Swilatia
25-11-2006, 14:09
i don't care what happens in Africa.
Lydiardia
25-11-2006, 14:23
Why is everyone so down on the French?

No-one ever picks on the cowardly Danish or Dutch. At least there was a 'Battle of France'. I don't recall any battle of denmark.

No, I guess those guys were awesome.

That's because you're not very well read. There are lots of ways to fight a war - and the danish were very successful.

...In 1943, the movement scored a great success in rescuing 6,500 of Denmark's Jewish population of 7,000 from being sent to the concentration camps by helping them into neutral Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_resistance)
United Beleriand
25-11-2006, 14:26
That's because you're not very well read. There are lots of ways to fight a war - and the danish were very successful.
...In 1943, the movement scored a great success in rescuing 6,500 of Denmark's Jewish population of 7,000 from being sent to the concentration camps by helping them into neutral Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_resistance)What success is that?
Icovir
25-11-2006, 14:27
i don't care what happens in Africa.

The World Leaders seem to agree with you. Maybe that's why Darfur is still going on...
United Beleriand
25-11-2006, 14:29
The fact of the matter is that nobody really gives a **** what Rwanda does or even where it is. Although this is in the region where mankind once originated it is also the region where mankind hasn't developed since.
Icovir
25-11-2006, 14:32
The fact of the matter is that nobody really gives a **** what Rwanda does or even where it is. Although this is in the region where mankind once originated it is also the region where mankind hasn't developed since.

And is that why you're the Head of State of a government? Or maybe even a life expert?
Ariddia
25-11-2006, 14:37
Nobody over here really cares. If anything, it just makes the Rwandan government look silly. Apparently they don't realise that a French judge isn't necessarily acting on instructions from the government; maybe they don't know about seperation of powers... (Of course, Bruguière bringing this up now does smack of "tit for tat", and I'm sure our government was pleased, or at least amused, by it.)


The fact of the matter is that nobody really gives a **** what Rwanda does or even where it is.

Speak for yourself. I know exactly where Rwanda is. But if you want to go about proclaiming pride in your own crass ignorance... Is the outside world a bit too complex for you to handle, perhaps? Ignorance and simple-mindedness must be so comforting...


Although this is in the region where mankind once originated it is also the region where mankind hasn't developed since.

I admire your courage in expressing the shocking depths of your ignorance, so that all may look upon you and laugh.
HC Eredivisie
25-11-2006, 14:38
The Dutch are too busy screwing and/or smoking everything in site.
What am I doing on NSG then right now?:(
Wanderjar
25-11-2006, 15:06
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6179436.stm

Thoughts?

Don't care. *Bluntly honest*
Ariddia
25-11-2006, 15:22
Don't care. *Bluntly honest*

I'll be interested to see how it goes, though. Would it be possible to put Kagame's aides on trial in absentia?
Wanderjar
25-11-2006, 15:24
I'll be interested to see how it goes, though. Would it be possible to put Kagame's aides on trial in absentia?

Good point.




(And also, I've had trouble being online much lately due to my Grandfather's health. So when you need me to vote, please TG me or have JB do it, so I know to go. Otherwise I cannot guarentee I'll see it.)
Ariddia
25-11-2006, 15:28
(And also, I've had trouble being online much lately due to my Grandfather's health. So when you need me to vote, please TG me or have JB do it, so I know to go. Otherwise I cannot guarentee I'll see it.)

(I'm sorry to hear that. You have my condoleances. Not being an MP, I'm not active in Parliament, but I'll try to keep an eye open.)
Wanderjar
25-11-2006, 15:28
(I'm sorry to hear that. You have my condoleances. Not being an MP, I'm not active in Parliament, but I'll try to keep an eye open.)

(Thanks mate, I appreciate it. Now I'll stop spamming this thread up ;))
United Beleriand
25-11-2006, 15:30
Speak for yourself. I know exactly where Rwanda is. But if you want to go about proclaiming pride in your own crass ignorance... Is the outside world a bit too complex for you to handle, perhaps? Ignorance and simple-mindedness must be so comforting...I know exactly where Rwanda is and about its history of genocide a decade ago and the subsequent developments. Nevertheless I do not care if two tribes are warring against one another, just as the rest of the world obviously did not care. You certainly know about the UN's and thus the world community's failure to do anything.

I admire your courage in expressing the shocking depths of your ignorance, so that all may look upon you and laugh.There is nothing wrong in what I said. Humanity comes from the East African rift valley region, and yet this is one of the regions where humans have not caught up with the rest of civilization. Look at the problems Africa is facing today. AIDS, poverty, inefficient and corrupt governments. (Sub-Saharan) Africa has never overcome the stupid tribal clan-based approach to building societies. There is a reason why Africa was sliced up into colonies.
Ariddia
25-11-2006, 15:41
There is nothing wrong in what I said. Humanity comes from the East African rift valley region, and yet this is one of the regions where humans have not caught up with the rest of civilization. Look at the problems Africa is facing today. AIDS, poverty, inefficient and corrupt governments. (Sub-Saharan) Africa has never overcome the stupid tribal clan-based approach to building societies. There is a reason why Africa was sliced up into colonies.

You're just proving my point. I could explain to you in detail why your opinion comes from arrogant ignorance, but I've done it so many times already in these fora that I'm tired of it. Instead, I'll just ask how much you actually know about traditional societies in Africa.
Wanderjar
25-11-2006, 15:43
I admire your courage in expressing the shocking depths of your ignorance, so that all may look upon you and laugh.


SIGGED!
Lacadaemon
25-11-2006, 15:47
That's because you're not very well read. There are lots of ways to fight a war - and the danish were very successful.

...In 1943, the movement scored a great success in rescuing 6,500 of Denmark's Jewish population of 7,000 from being sent to the concentration camps by helping them into neutral Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_resistance)

Yes. The Danish and the Swedish brave stand against the Hitlerism ensured its ultimate downfall. /sarcasm.

The Brazilians contributed more to the fight against the Nazis than denmark ever did.
United Beleriand
25-11-2006, 16:38
I'll just ask how much you actually know about traditional societies in Africa.No enough to explain why those societies don't work to the benefit of the people. Traditional societies? Traditions don't feed people. But I guess HIV will solve this matter anyway.
Swilatia
25-11-2006, 16:42
The World Leaders seem to agree with you. Maybe that's why Darfur is still going on...

how can a place be "going on"?
Darknovae
25-11-2006, 16:47
how can a place be "going on"?

The genocide.

I've been wondering why that's been going on too, and the whole AIDS thing... I guess Iraq is just too important. :rolleyes:
The Atlantian islands
25-11-2006, 16:50
Yes. The Danish and the Swedish brave stand against the Hitlerism ensured its ultimate downfall. /sarcasm.

The Brazilians contributed more to the fight against the Nazis than denmark ever did.
Dont talk about Denmark if you dont know what you are talking about:

Without the recalcitrant Danish government to impede them, Denmark's German occupiers began planning the deportation of the 8,000 or so Jews in Denmark to Nazi concentration camps. On 28 September 1943, Georg Ferdinand Duckwitz, a German diplomat, leaked word of the plans for the operation against Denmark's Jews to Hans Hedtoft, chairman of the Danish Social Democratic Party, who in turn contacted the Danish Resistance Movement and the Jewish community, whose head was C.B. Henriques and whose acting chief rabbi was Dr. Marcus Melchior. At the Rosh Hashanah services on 29 September, Danish Jews were warned of the German action and advised to go into hiding.

The improvisational nature of the early phases of the rescue was particularly notable. When Danish civil servants at several levels in different ministries learnt of the German plan to round up all Danish Jews, they independently pursued various measures to find the Jews and hide them. Some simply phoned friends and asked them to go through telephone books and warn those with Jewish-sounding names to go into hiding. Most Jews hid for several days or weeks before being smuggled to Sweden, which offered asylum to Danish Jews who reached Sweden.

The Jews were smuggled out of Denmark by transporting them by sea over the Øresund from Zealand to Sweden, a passage of approximately 10 miles. Some were transported in large fishing boats of up to 20 tons, but others were carried to freedom in rowboats or kayaks. Some refugees were smuggled inside freight cars on the regular ferries between Denmark and Sweden, this route being suited for the very young or old who were too weak to endure a rough sea passage. The underground had broken into empty freight cars sealed by the Germans after inspection, helped refugees onto the cars, and then resealed the cars with German seals to forestall further inspection.

Some of the fishermen assisting in the rescue charged money to transport Jews to Sweden, while others took payments only from those who could afford passage. Some profiteers took advantage of the confusion and fear during the early days of the escape, but as time passed, the Danish underground movement ousted them and took an active role in organizing the rescue and providing financing, mostly from wealthy Danes who donated large sums of money for the rescue.

During the first days of the rescue action, Jews swarmed into the many fishing harbors on the Danish coast for rescue, but as the Gestapo became suspicious of activity around harbors, subsequent rescues had to take place from isolated points along the coast. While waiting their turn, the Jews took refuge in the woods and in cottages away from the coast, out of sight of the Gestapo.

Some of the refugees never made it to Sweden; some were captured by the Gestapo en route to their point of embarcation, some were lost at sea when vessels of poor seaworthiness capsized, and some were intercepted at sea by German patrol boats. However, the Danish harbor police and civil police generally cooperated with the rescue operations. During the early part of the rescue operation, the Gestapo was undermanned. The German army and navy were called in to reinforce the Gestapo in its effort to prevent the transports, but by and large proved to be uninterested in the operation.

Only around 450 Danish Jews (some 7% of Denmark's Jewish population) were captured by the Germans, and most were sent to the Theresienstadt concentration camp in occupied Czechoslovakia. After these Jews' deportation, the Danish government persuaded the Germans to accept packages of food and medicine for the prisoners; furthermore, Denmark convinced the Germans not to deport the Danish Jews to the extermination camps. This was achieved by Danish political pressure, using the Danish Red Cross to frequently monitor the condition of the Danish Jews at Theresienstadt. Some 51 Danish Jews — mostly elderly — died of disease at Theresienstadt, but in April 1945, as the war drew to a close, the 400 or so surviving Danish Jews were turned over by the Germans to a representative of the Danish Red Cross.

Educated yourself.
Minaris
25-11-2006, 16:50
But I guess HIV will solve this matter anyway.

Sigged
Icovir
25-11-2006, 17:07
Sigged

The next person to say "Sigged" I'm going to sig.
Darknovae
25-11-2006, 17:16
The next person to say "Sigged" I'm going to sig.

Sigged. :D
Icovir
25-11-2006, 17:37
Sigged. :D

Sigged.
Gorias
25-11-2006, 18:08
President Kagame looks like ghandi with aids.

my usuall opinion on african affairs is, "fuck africa".

edit:except egypt.
Lydiardia
25-11-2006, 18:28
What success is that?

Well, I think rescuing a sizeable proportion of a nations (patently dispersed) jewish population at a time when they were all being rounded up and murdered probably reppresents a sizeable success in time of war for an occupied country.. However, that wasn't their only success. Google "Hitler's Canary" and you'll discover more - and hopefully be motivated to read the book of the same name.
Ariddia
26-11-2006, 00:20
SIGGED!

Yay! :p

No enough to explain why those societies don't work to the benefit of the people. Traditional societies? Traditions don't feed people.

Funny how they managed fine for so many thousands of years...


But I guess HIV will solve this matter anyway.

Your ignorance pales only in comparison with your lack of humanity.
Telros
26-11-2006, 04:30
I have to agree with Aridia on this one. I am currently taking a class on Africa, via human rights violations, so I have learned a bit about their culture. So United Beleriand, please, for the sake of all of us who actually, oh I don't know, have brains and use them instead of thwacking our heads with clubs, READ, RESEARCH, LEARN. Do not speak about a subject you have nothing to add to but racist or even inhumane comments.

If you are so sure of yourself, why don't you go over there and tell them what you told us? See what happens.
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Thought so.
Mini Miehm
26-11-2006, 04:58
Gimme a sec to find the full length movie Invisible Children online. See what it does to his preconceptions.
Zilam
26-11-2006, 05:29
And this matters to us why?????
Amadenijad
26-11-2006, 05:58
NO NO NO STOP THE MADNESS FRANCE CANT HANDLE THE RWANDAN AGGRESSION....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


wow...its rwanda...honestly...and sadly...had it not been for Hotel Rwanda, i doubt many people would have even heard of rwanda...its not exactly like is important.
The Black Forrest
26-11-2006, 06:04
NO NO NO STOP THE MADNESS FRANCE CANT HANDLE THE RWANDAN AGGRESSION....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


wow...its rwanda...honestly...and sadly...had it not been for Hotel Rwanda, i doubt many people would have even heard of rwanda...its not exactly like is important.

Eh? People don't know Fossey and the Mountain Gorillas?
Bunnyducks
26-11-2006, 06:04
wow...its rwanda...honestly...and sadly...had it not been for Hotel Rwanda, i doubt many people would have even heard of rwanda...its not exactly like is important.
I thought this had to be quoted. I don't know what to say if it really is as you stated but 'Thank god for that movie then.'.
United Beleriand
03-12-2006, 17:36
Funny how they managed fine for so many thousands of years...Yeah, I remember the photos that European expeditions made of those folks in the 19th century.
Your ignorance pales only in comparison with your lack of humanity.I'm not responsible for their irresponsible sexual behavior.