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For fuckwits and mentalists.

Where else would you have a convicted multiple killer bursting into the legislative assembly armed with pipe bombs, a knife and a gun, to be stopped only by the bare hands of security guards?

huh?

and surely you mean the United kingdom :p

huh?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6179792.stm

The early release programme is clearly working to guarantee a strong and lasting peace.

and surely you mean the United kingdom :p

Subset thereof, as you know all too well. We needn't open the UKoGB&NI can of worms today.

I don't see why you guys don't just give Northern Ireland independence. I wouldn't want them in my country anyway, to be honest.

For fuckwits and mentalists.

Where else would you have a convicted multiple killer bursting into the legislative assembly armed with pipe bombs, a knife and a gun, to be stopped only by the bare hands of security guards?
Who the hell were guarding the place, Solid Snake and Big Boss?!

Northern Ireland is number one!

I think you're confused. The Giants are number one!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j9/lilwilli86/AQUA_TEEN_HUNGER_FORCE_V3_D2-8.jpg

EDIT: Forgot to change the quote to post title.

Ahhh....just saw this thread.


I just posted one on the same subject.


When I heard about the event, I just burst out laughing and said "only in Northern Ireland!"

For fuckwits and mentalists.

Where else would you have a convicted multiple killer bursting into the legislative assembly armed with pipe bombs, a knife and a gun, to be stopped only by the bare hands of security guards?

Westminster?

I gather you are not a loyalist. I met two very nice republicans in rome two weeks ago. Had a charming time at dinner with them. Of course they accused me of sleeping with my mother and such.

He was carrying a gun, knife and a suspect device
Nice to see that someone at the BBC is a Stiff Little Fingers fan.

Nice to see that someone at the BBC is a Stiff Little Fingers fan.

I was going to comment on that ;)

Who the hell were guarding the place, Solid Snake and Big Boss?!

The guy wasn't exactly Metal Gear so that'd be overkill.

For fuckwits and mentalists.

Where else would you have a convicted multiple killer bursting into the legislative assembly armed with pipe bombs, a knife and a gun, to be stopped only by the bare hands of security guards?

I love the fact that the female security guard hit him on the head with his own gun. Thats gonna go down well for him in prison

I was going to comment on that ;)
I just wonder how long the reporter had been waiting to use that in an article - about an Ulster incident, no less. Shame they didn't also slip in that it was inflammeable material.

Kudos to whoever it is.

Westminster?

I gather you are not a loyalist. I met two very nice republicans in rome two weeks ago. Had a charming time at dinner with them. Of course they accused me of sleeping with my mother and such.

wwell if you are a smelly loyalist piece of slime its pribably true :D

micheal stone, kicked out of the UDA for being too mental. not something you hear every day

For fuckwits and mentalists.

Where else would you have a convicted multiple killer bursting into the legislative assembly armed with pipe bombs, a knife and a gun, to be stopped only by the bare hands of security guards?Clearly Northern Irish pipe bombs, knives, and guns aren't very effective if the guards could stop the guy barehanded.
I wish all pipe bombs, knives and guns were that way.

Did anybody hear about Micheal Stone's plan to kill Ken Livingston?

Clearly Northern Irish pipe bombs, knives, and guns aren't very effective if the guards could stop the guy barehanded.
I wish all pipe bombs, knives and guns were that way.

That or the people using them are idiots. Or possibly a combination of the two.

Clearly Northern Irish pipe bombs, knives, and guns aren't very effective if the guards could stop the guy barehanded.
3523 Irish would disagree with you.

I just wonder how long the reporter had been waiting to use that in an article - about an Ulster incident, no less.

What you've done there is to confuse cause and effect: the song by SLF was called Suspect Device because it was a term already in use by the media in the seventies to describe potential bombs or incendiaries, and not the other way around.

Of course we need not mention that the song in question was a blatant rip off of the heavy rock song Space Station #5 by the band Montrose. That is self-evident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmqWRY-OdA ('Suspect Device' starts at about 00:46)

I'd like to think it was all publicity for the usual SLF christmas charity gig, but sure that would make sense. Still, he'll be back home for christmas, and isnt that a nice ending, in a way....

if he was successfull on killing gerry adams, n-irl probably would have gone back 30 years in developement.

if he was successfull on killing gerry adams, n-irl probably would have gone back 30 years in developement.

I wouldn't be so sure... Most people in Northern Ireland don't actually care about it anymore, they just want a Government mature enough to sit down together. The problem is, the Politicians are still acting like they were thirty years ago.

IMHO, I think they should chuck everyone currently serving at Stormont out, take away their right to run in the election, and have a new election with new candidates.

And I'm actually from Belfast btw....

I'd like to think it was all publicity for the usual SLF christmas charity gig, but sure that would make sense.

Someone else on a music forum pointed out that a Therapy? publicity stunt was more likely:

http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Leestafel/stone.jpg
Andy Cairns.




http://www.therapyquestionmark.co.uk/biography/images/andy.jpg
Michael Stone.

For fuckwits and mentalists.

Where else would you have a convicted multiple killer bursting into the legislative assembly armed with pipe bombs, a knife and a gun, to be stopped only by the bare hands of security guards?

This clearly didn't happen, since guns are illegal in the UK.

Oh, wait. You mean that someone actually broke the law and carried a gun anyway? Wow. Good thing those guards had hands to stop him with!
:headbang:

Lucky the guy's an idiot, lest an actual killing spree have happened. That and he didn't arrive early and got his target(s) in the parking lot with a few civilians.

This clearly didn't happen, since guns are illegal in the UK.

Oh, wait. You mean that someone actually broke the law and carried a gun anyway? Wow. Good thing those guards had hands to stop him with!
:headbang:

Lucky the guy's an idiot, lest an actual killing spree have happened. That and he didn't arrive early and got his target(s) in the parking lot with a few civilians.

I dont think its the fact that guns are banned which is the problem here. I would have said it was the fact that they were civilian guards and not police

I dont think its the fact that guns are banned which is the problem here. I would have said it was the fact that they were civilian guards and not police

I'm just pointing out that the banning of guns has done remarkably little for British crime per capita.

This clearly didn't happen, since guns are illegal in the UK.

Oh, wait. You mean that someone actually broke the law and carried a gun anyway?

Nope. An imitation firearm, apparently.

This clearly didn't happen, since guns are illegal in the UK.

Oh, wait. You mean that someone actually broke the law and carried a gun anyway? Wow. Good thing those guards had hands to stop him with!
:headbang:

Lucky the guy's an idiot, lest an actual killing spree have happened. That and he didn't arrive early and got his target(s) in the parking lot with a few civilians.

yeah thats right. northren ireland needs more guns.:rolleyes:

I dont think its the fact that guns are banned which is the problem here. I would have said it was the fact that they were civilian guards and not police

Lets cut to the chase: the problem is not whether you have unarmed security guards or armed policemen - rather it is the fact that we have many unrepentent paramilitaries out on the streets as part of the early release scheme as part of the peace process. Thankfully Stone seems to be at the far end of the spectrum.

Nope. An imitation firearm, apparently.

:confused: The link doesn't say anything about it being fake??

Lucky the guy's an idiot, lest an actual killing spree have happened.

His idiocy was no obstacle to his last killing spree. Three dead and sixty wounded if I remember correctly. To say nothing of the other three killings he admitted to in a court of law.

Lets cut to the chase: the problem is not whether you have unarmed security guards or armed policemen - rather it is the fact that we have many unrepentent paramilitaries out on the streets as part of the early release scheme as part of the peace process. Thankfully Stone seems to be at the far end of the spectrum.

Yes but it would be a hell of a lot harder to revoke the early release than replace the unarmed guards (in buildings like these) with Police. Although I do agree with you

yeah thats right. northren ireland needs more guns.:rolleyes:

yeah. Because the police are everywhere and no one owns any illegal firearms. :rolleyes:

:confused: The link doesn't say anything about it being fake??

That was yesterday's link: a more current report can be found here -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6182996.stm

About paragraph eight mentions the imitation firearm.

yeah. Because the police are everywhere and no one owns any illegal firearms. :rolleyes:

Maybe in other places licenced firearms are a good idea but I really dont think NI is a good place to begin experimenting with that idea

yeah. Because the police are everywhere and no one owns any illegal firearms. :rolleyes:

hey i have a great idea, allow civillians police them selves!

Maybe in other places licenced firearms are a good idea but I really dont think NI is a good place to begin experimenting with that idea

The irony here is that a great many Ulster politicians do possess legally held licensed firearms for their own protection - I believe it is one of the results of the PTA.

His idiocy was no obstacle to his last killing spree. Three dead and sixty wounded if I remember correctly. To say nothing of the other three killings he admitted to in a court of law.

Agreed. Pity none of his previous victims were armed.

hey i have a great idea, allow civillians police them selves!

You don't already? Wow. It must be great to blow red lights, not pay for stuff when shopping and have sex with whomever you want any time! :)

Maybe in other places licenced firearms are a good idea but I really dont think NI is a good place to begin experimenting with that idea

What's the danger of allowing someone who is an upstanding citizen from carrying a firearm?

Answer: None.

The irony here is that a great many Ulster politicians do possess legally held licensed firearms for their own protection - I believe it is one of the results of the PTA.

I find it a lot easier to trust them with guns (yeah even with the current bunch) than I do the population in general though.

Agreed. Pity none of his previous victims were armed.

they were also terrorists. they have loads of fucking guns. they had anti-air missiles.

What's the danger of allowing someone who is an upstanding citizen from carrying a firearm?

Answer: None.

The problem is judging who is upstanding enough and who isnt

What's the danger of allowing someone who is an upstanding citizen from carrying a firearm?

Answer: None.

were are you from? a maniac is an upstanding citizen before he goes on a spree.

Agreed. Pity none of his previous victims were armed.

Well, none of his actual victims, no, but he was about to be shot by the IRA when the police intervened last time round.

The problem is judging who is upstanding enough and who isnt

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Well at least by that rule Jonny Adair would never have been given one

Well at least by that rule Jonny Adair would never have been given one

...and Sammy Duddy's dog would still be alive today.

That or the people using them are idiots. Or possibly a combination of the two.

3523 Irish would disagree with you.Hm. Perhaps he imported it, then? <Steps back from the lame attempt at humor.>

Someone else on a music forum pointed out that a Therapy? publicity stunt was more likelyThat would be awesome. Therapy? needs more publicity. And to tour here.