NationStates Jolt Archive


Degrees of what should be legal in sexually oriented businesses

Daistallia 2104
24-11-2006, 16:36
Ruffy's thread on the congruence of legal prostitution and lowering rape rates (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=508336) reminded me of this question I keep meaning to ask but haven't gotten around to yet.


Discussions regarding the legalisation/legality of prostitution seem to be black and white, with no shades of grey. The legal standing here in Japan is full of shades of grey. Pimping, soliciting, and operating a brothel are all illegal, but the exchange of sex for money is legal. But the laws refer to genital-genital penetration only - all other sorts of sexual acts are legally able to be pimped, brotheled, solicited, etc..

The question I put to you is where do you draw the line on legal and illegal sexually oriented businesses?
New alchemy
24-11-2006, 17:04
There is no line. People should have the right to do what they want, including soliciting sex, without having the president tell them its not allright.
Drunk commies deleted
24-11-2006, 17:08
As long as it's between consenting adults it should all be legal.
Nuovo Tenochtitlan
24-11-2006, 17:23
(sex=good) -> (not getting sex=bad) -> (prostitution=good)

Any questions?
Ice Hockey Players
24-11-2006, 17:27
On one hand, I am all for legalizing prostitution because the police have better things to worry about, but when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases and stuff, professionals who catch them should be required to hang up the...umm, whateven article of clothing is most associated with prostitution.

On the other hand, it kind of takes the fun out of the whole act if a john has to sign a bunch of legal forms beforehand and has to go through some balding white guy with thick glasses and a nasal voice rather than a real pimp.
Ashmoria
24-11-2006, 18:25
the legal restrictions should be age, pay, consent and no physical damage allowed.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2006, 18:32
1) make a sex business
2) ????
3) PROFIT!!!!
Gift-of-god
24-11-2006, 18:37
the legal restrictions should be age, pay, consent and no physical damage allowed.

I can't think of any other condition, except maybe psychological damage. But as long as we have consent, such a condition may be redundant.
Ice Hockey Players
24-11-2006, 18:40
the legal restrictions should be age, pay, consent and no physical damage allowed.

Well, no permanent physical damage and nothing that one is likely to end up needing surgery for, anyway. Unless they sign a waiver. In which case, the health care costs should be on them.
Hallucinogenic Tonic
24-11-2006, 18:44
I vote 'Anything Goes'!!! My bedroom is the last damn place I want government intervention!!!
Kryozerkia
24-11-2006, 18:47
I vote 'Anything Goes'!!! My bedroom is the last damn place I want government intervention!!!
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." ~ Late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau
Greater Trostia
24-11-2006, 19:00
Everything is OK except "touching w/o masturbation."

Touching should always be accompanied with masturbation.
Ashmoria
24-11-2006, 19:18
Well, no permanent physical damage and nothing that one is likely to end up needing surgery for, anyway. Unless they sign a waiver. In which case, the health care costs should be on them.

no

health and safety laws should apply. no waivers, no inducing a worker to risk their lives for money.

this isnt professional sports after all.
Dinaverg
24-11-2006, 19:44
Ruffy's thread on the congruence of legal prostitution and lowering rape rates (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=508336) reminded me of this question I keep meaning to ask but haven't gotten around to yet.


Discussions regarding the legalisation/legality of prostitution seem to be black and white, with no shades of grey.

Maybe because so far only one person has voted somewhere in between Anything and not at all?
Llewdor
24-11-2006, 20:08
"The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." ~ Late Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau
The only intelligent thing Trudeau ever said.
Kryozerkia
24-11-2006, 20:13
The only intelligent thing Trudeau ever said.
What about all the stuff he didn't say? :p
Ice Hockey Players
24-11-2006, 20:24
no

health and safety laws should apply. no waivers, no inducing a worker to risk their lives for money.

this isnt professional sports after all.

No, no, no, not inducing a worker to do these things. However, if someone wanted to sign a waiver to have some things that one wouldn't ordinarily find kosher done to THEM, that's a different story. That said, I don't mind making them jump through a lot of hoops to get some of those things done and make sure that there are no negative consequences for anyone else.
Ashmoria
24-11-2006, 20:35
No, no, no, not inducing a worker to do these things. However, if someone wanted to sign a waiver to have some things that one wouldn't ordinarily find kosher done to THEM, that's a different story. That said, I don't mind making them jump through a lot of hoops to get some of those things done and make sure that there are no negative consequences for anyone else.

i think there should be a hookers union so that every similar act has to be paid the same. that way the crack whore cant undercut the market. with, i suppose, different levels of expertise that get paid at different rates even for the same act.

prostitutes tend to be women who are only in it for the money. a desperate woman might be willing to endure some physical damage or even some level of mutilation for money. such things need to be legally banned even if there is no way to keep it from happening, only legal recourse after the fact.
Dyelli Beybi
24-11-2006, 20:48
It's pretty hard to draw a line. If you're going to legalise you might as well legalise the lot.
JiangGuo
24-11-2006, 21:17
This is no fun, there is only one viewpoint here. :(
Llewdor
25-11-2006, 00:06
i think there should be a hookers union so that every similar act has to be paid the same. that way the crack whore cant undercut the market. with, i suppose, different levels of expertise that get paid at different rates even for the same act.
Wage and price controls?

Are there still people who haven't learned that lesson?