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People have probably seen this commerical...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDTDgVgQ9ic

Does this piss anyone else off as much as it does me? Making me out to be some sort of bumbling dinosaur standing in the way of progress because I... *GASP*...prefer to pay cash?

I'm sorry, but I don't like my name and all sorts of information running through a computer (which may or may not be secure) every time I want to buy a tank of gas or a meal at a restaurant.

You'll also notice what it says on your money (at least in the U.S.)...

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

So kiss my ass Visa...I'll pay cash until the day I'm dead.

People not yet born will stare at me oddly, wondering why I'm fishing around in my pockets for bits of folded paper...but it won't bother ME in the slightest!

Amen.

I always pay cash, and oddly enough, it hasn't seemed to slow me down at all.

Of course i pay cash, why would i wan to pay an extra 2 cents on a bill that i can't possibly pay with cash?
And don't get me started on transaction fees.

I work as a waiter so I pay cash all the time.

And I can do basic math. Unlike anyone in that commercial


(oh - working thanksgiving day = 160$ :) )

Cash is King in any transaction. Also makes tax-dodging easier for the vendor.

Cash is King in any transaction. Also makes tax-dodging easier for the vendor.
Hurray for tax fraud!

I always pay cash, and oddly enough, it hasn't seemed to slow me down at all.

Its faster over here - what with chip and pin cards demanding to know if I want cashback all the sodding time.

I'm inclined to agree on cash - if I weren't so lazy and paid a lot with my bank card.

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my sister HATES those ads. "thats a very bad message" "cissy, its a visa ad, of course its a bad message"

companies advertise their products. its up to YOU whether or not you use them.

Cash is king.

But i'm lazy so i pay by card usually. Thats what technology does - it makes it easier to be extremely lazy. Hurrah for technology!

I'm inclined to agree on cash - if I weren't so lazy and paid a lot with my bank card.

Besides...
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As ever GN wins.

I would always pay cash. Mama always told me, "be careful what'cha do"; don't go around using credit cards.

Depends what I'm buying. I don't like carrying more than £20 cash on me. Cash for purchases under £20 in general and always for under £5; debit card for more (and because it goes straight out of my account, unlike a credit card); and credit card for internet purchases due to comprehensive fraud cover compared to none at all on the debit card. And whenver I pay cash I don't normally expect a reciept, either because all I'm buying is some milk or the vendor's offering a reduction in price.

If I lose my wallet or it gets stolen all I lose is my driving license, the cash in the wallet, and some stamps. I keep my bank's card theft/loss number in my diary just incase my mobile is stolen as well. And all reciepts in which the card needed to be swiped more than once are starred incase of fraud.

I prefer cash. It's much less hassle to give someone a note than to type in a pin number and have to press the "enter" button eight times because it's broken. From being pressed too much.

I would use my debit card if I knew exactly what I was going to the shop for, and exactly how much it was going to cost. Otherwise, it's just easier to kepe track of how much money I don't have when using cash.

I haven't watched TV in years. Except for the Olympics. I never see any of these commercials. You would be amazed how much better I feel.

As an added bonus, I know very little about reality TV, Canadian Idol, whether or not the Simpsons even continue to exist, what many celebrities look like, it's great!

I haven't watched TV in years. Except for the Olympics. I never see any of these commercials. You would be amazed how much better I feel.

As an added bonus, I know very little about reality TV, Canadian Idol, whether or not the Simpsons even continue to exist, what many celebrities look like, it's great!

I some ways I envy you.

Don't you have to sign visa receipts in America?

I pay cash or debit. The only time I use credit is for my medication, but I get the money back quickly after I do the claim, so, it doesn't stay around long.

Don't you have to sign visa receipts in America?

no

the ad is for a visa check card. im not sure what the rules are on those but my bank of america visa DEBIT card requires a pin number instead of a signature. b of a covers any fradulent use.

i seldom write checks anymore. i have written less than 10 this year. i pay for everyday things with cash or debit card just as i used to pay with cash or check.

big purchases and vacation things go on credit card. (like the tv i bought at walmart this morning at 5:30 am)

Im in the 21st century, soo of course I use some sort of card. Cash is for old goons. Actually I do use both.

People have probably seen this commerical...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDTDgVgQ9ic

Does this piss anyone else off as much as it does me? Making me out to be some sort of bumbling dinosaur standing in the way of progress because I... *GASP*...prefer to pay cash?

I'm sorry, but I don't like my name and all sorts of information running through a computer (which may or may not be secure) every time I want to buy a tank of gas or a meal at a restaurant.

You'll also notice what it says on your money (at least in the U.S.)...

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

So kiss my ass Visa...I'll pay cash until the day I'm dead.

People not yet born will stare at me oddly, wondering why I'm fishing around in my pockets for bits of folded paper...but it won't bother ME in the slightest!

I went to a gas station in front of a Sam's Club a while back and they would only take debit or credit cards. I was only carrying cash. Luckily there are loads of gas stations in New Jersey.

I went to a gas station in front of a Sam's Club a while back and they would only take debit or credit cards. I was only carrying cash. Luckily there are loads of gas stations in New Jersey.

I thought you couldn't refuse legal tender to settle a transaction unless it was a ridculous quanitity of small change being paid.

are the people replying 13 or 30 cause no kid in my country has a credit card. all those that i have met

I thought you couldn't refuse legal tender to settle a transaction unless it was a ridculous quanitity of small change being paid.

Yeah, me too. Legal tender for all debts public and private, right? I should throw molotov cocktails at the place.

I buy everything with cash. If I'm going shopping it's not unusual for me to carry several hundred dollars.

are the people replying 13 or 30 cause no kid in my country has a credit card. all those that i have met
I'm twenty-three, so, according to my dad, I needed a credit card... -_-;

What on earth is this "paying" nonsense you're all dribbling about?

I'm twenty-three, so, according to my dad, I needed a credit card... -_-;

He's right, no other reasonable way to build your credit rating. Though entering college is instant +credit. Why I have no idea.

I fear the cashless society, so I pay cash for everything.

But I do have credit cards. I applied for the first one when I was in University. On the forms I wrote that my annual income was $0, and they still gave me the card.

I'm twenty-three, so, according to my dad, I needed a credit card... -_-;

You only need one for buying airline tickets online or renting cars. I use cash or checks for most of my payments and purchases. Credit cards put me in debt when I first got one, so I steer clear of them whenever possible.

I thought you couldn't refuse legal tender to settle a transaction unless it was a ridculous quanitity of small change being paid.
That's what it means to be legal tender.

I used to live in an apartment that wouldn't accept the rent in cash. To this day I'm convinced that was illegal.

You only need one for buying airline tickets online or renting cars. I use cash or checks for most of my payments and purchases. Credit cards put me in debt when I first got one, so I steer clear of them whenever possible.
That's why I only applied for the one at my bank.

That's what it means to be legal tender.

I used to live in an apartment that wouldn't accept the rent in cash. To this day I'm convinced that was illegal.
They probably did that to keep the process simple.

Okay, so I just returned from my grocery run and I spent € 50,- with my debtor's card at the big place and € 10,- twice at smaller stores. (All amounts with some small change, of course)

They probably did that to keep the process simple.
They said they did it so they wouldn't have cash on hand for people to steal (it wasn't the best neighbourhood).

cash is still king here in poland, as credit cards are just so over-rated.

Yeah, me too. Legal tender for all debts public and private, right? I should throw molotov cocktails at the place.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender
In some jurisdictions legal tender can be refused as payment if no debt exists prior to the time of payment (for example, where the obligation to pay arises substantially contemporaneously with the offer of payment). Consequently vending machines and transport staff do not have to accept the largest denomination of banknote for a single bus fare or bar of chocolate, and even shopkeepers can reject large banknotes — this is covered by the legal concept known as invitation to treat. However, restaurants that do not collect money until after a meal is served would have to accept that legal tender for payment of the debt incurred in purchasing the meal.
So, if you had been buying gas from the gas station and already filled up your car up then the gas station would have been obliged to accept the cash. Otherwise they could legally refuse you service.

People have probably seen this commerical...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDTDgVgQ9ic

Does this piss anyone else off as much as it does me? Making me out to be some sort of bumbling dinosaur standing in the way of progress because I... *GASP*...prefer to pay cash?

I'm sorry, but I don't like my name and all sorts of information running through a computer (which may or may not be secure) every time I want to buy a tank of gas or a meal at a restaurant.

You'll also notice what it says on your money (at least in the U.S.)...

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

So kiss my ass Visa...I'll pay cash until the day I'm dead.

People not yet born will stare at me oddly, wondering why I'm fishing around in my pockets for bits of folded paper...but it won't bother ME in the slightest!Oh! I hate that one with a passion! And I always laugh at the card people when I get into the shorter line at the cash only register :D

They said they did it so they wouldn't have cash on hand for people to steal (it wasn't the best neighbourhood).

I had the opposite trouble, one landlord I had would only except cash and very rarely cheques. We thought he might be up to some tax avoiding but we didn't mind much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender

So you're saying I shouldn't hurl molotov cocktails at the gas station?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender

Interesting, though at a petrol station you normally fill up before completing the transaction so they wouldn't be able to refuse. They can refuse legal tender if the payment occurs before I fill up (but that doesn't happen because you would need to know the amount).

thankyou for the information.

So you're saying I shouldn't hurl molotov cocktails at the gas station?

Do you pay before or after you fill up your car. If before then they can refuse, if you fill up first then they have to accept. (Going by what it says in the wiki page)

Do you pay before or after you fill up your car. If before then they can refuse, if you fill up first then they have to accept. (Going by what it says in the wiki page)

In New Jersey self-service is illegal at gas stations. The attendant will ask how much gas you need, then pump that ammount into your car, then take the money. In states with self-service you go inside and pay first.

In New Jersey self-service is illegal at gas stations. The attendant will ask how much gas you need, then pump that ammount into your car, then take the money. In states with self-service you go inside and pay first.

Weird, over here we fill up first then go and pay. With CCTV everywhere to make sure you don't leg it.

In New Jersey self-service is illegal at gas stations. The attendant will ask how much gas you need, then pump that ammount into your car, then take the money. In states with self-service you go inside and pay first.

ok, so you have to know the amount you want before filling up if there is self service. I learn some thing new.

Any way about legal tender, you should read about the UK's messed up system (officially anyway, unofficially it is ok unless you try paying with a scottish £1 note in england because they don't believe such a thing exists :p ). messed up UK legal tender (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender#Legal_tender_in_the_United_Kingdom)

ok, so you have to know the amount you want before filling up if there is self service. I learn some thing new.

Any way about legal tender, you should read about the UK's messed up system (officially anyway, unofficially it is ok unless you try paying with a scottish £1 note in england because they don't believe such a thing exists :p ). messed up UK legal tender (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender#Legal_tender_in_the_United_Kingdom)

Try paying in England with a plastic fiver from Northern Ireland. Makes me feel like the guy in the youtube vid

Interesting, though at a petrol station you normally fill up before completing the transaction so they wouldn't be able to refuse. They can refuse legal tender if the payment occurs before I fill up (but that doesn't happen because you would need to know the amount).

thankyou for the information.Actually, I'm not sure. Because it also says 'for example, where the obligation to pay arises substantially contemporaneously with the offer of payment'. meaning that if the vendor accepts a debt as payment for the transaction then legal tender may not be refused when the debt is settled (such as in a restaurent - their serving you is an acceptance of that debt). Whereas if you board a bus the driver does not accept a debt as you must before the service is over. No debt, no requirement to accept legal tender.

The gas station is a fuzzy area. It is presumably self-service, so that the customer has been served and presumably they are accepting the debt because the goods are handed over before payment. However, if the sign was that cash was not accepted would definately be seen before self-service began then the gas station could argue that you began self-service without their permission. Though then there is the situation of how does the gas station recover the petrol. For a convience store shopkeeper can simply ask you to put the product back on the shelf. Whereas it is not reasonable for the gas station to ask the customer to return the petrol to the pump. Very confusing. And not terribly important, but I found it oddly interesting. :(

Try paying in England with a plastic fiver from Northern Ireland. Makes me feel like the guy in the youtube vid

You have plastic fivers cool, I have never seen one. How different does it look.

You have plastic fivers cool, I have never seen one. How different does it look.

Just blue really with a little round window on it (not that you can see much through it. I'll see if i can find a pic

EDIT: There you go

http://cgi.ebay.com/BANK-OF-IRELAND-5-NOTE_W0QQitemZ180053141811QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3435QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Actually, I'm not sure. Because it also says 'for example, where the obligation to pay arises substantially contemporaneously with the offer of payment'. meaning that if the vendor accepts a debt as payment for the transaction then legal tender may not be refused when the debt is settled (such as in a restaurent - their serving you is an acceptance of that debt). Whereas if you board a bus the driver does not accept a debt as you must before the service is over. No debt, no requirement to accept legal tender.

The gas station is a fuzzy area. It is presumably self-service, so that the customer has been served and presumably they are accepting the debt because the goods are handed over before payment. However, if the sign was that cash was not accepted would definately be seen before self-service began then the gas station could argue that you began self-service without their permission. Though then there is the situation of how does the gas station recover the petrol. For a convience store shopkeeper can simply ask you to put the product back on the shelf. Whereas it is not reasonable for the gas station to ask the customer to return the petrol to the pump. Very confusing. And not terribly important, but I found it oddly interesting. :(


That must be why there is no self-service or pre-pay self-serve as Drunk commies deleted said.

In New Jersey self-service is illegal at gas stations. The attendant will ask how much gas you need, then pump that ammount into your car, then take the money. In states with self-service you go inside and pay first.

Try paying in England with a plastic fiver from Northern Ireland. Makes me feel like the guy in the youtube vidOnly Bank of England notes are legal tender, and they are only legal tender in England and Wales. The only legal tender, for any amount, across the whole of the UK are £1 coins, £2 coins and the rare £5 coins.

Only Bank of England notes are legal tender, and they are only legal tender in England and Wales. The only legal tender, for any amount, across the whole of the UK are £1 coins, £2 coins and the rare £5 coins.

And yet they all still take them.............eventually

That must be why there is no self-service or pre-pay self-serve as Drunk commies deleted said.Drunk Commies hadn't replyed at the point where I started to write my post. I was simply postulating only to find out that I my post was too late to be of much interest, if it was to begin with. Bah.

And yet they all still take them.............eventuallyBut that's to do with confidence. They've not seen the notes before and aren't sure. Whereas you know that they are legal, maybe not legal tender, but that have the same value of the equivalent BoE notes. And so, they eventually cave in to your confidence.

But that's to do with confidence. They've not seen the notes before and aren't sure. Whereas you know that they are legal, maybe not legal tender, but that have the same value of the equivalent BoE notes. And so, they eventually cave in to your confidence.

And so the balance of nature is restored

I found a webpage with the N.I. notes, I am glad it still looks like proper money (I thought it might look more like toy money because it was plastic)

Northern Ireland notes (http://www.irishpapermoney.com/ni/boi/05/boini051.html)

You have hundred pound notes as well, even cooler. In England they only go up £50 notes and I have proberly only seen about 30 in my whole life.

I found a webpage with the N.I. notes, I am glad it still looks like proper money (I thought it might look more like toy money because it was plastic)

Northern Ireland notes (http://www.irishpapermoney.com/ni/boi/05/boini051.html)

You have hundred pound notes as well, even cooler. In England they only go up £50 notes and I have proberly only seen about 30 in my whole life.

Those arent plastic

Those arent plastic

i will keep searching then

Trust someone on ebay to be selling them:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NORTHERN-IRELAND-BANK-PLASTIC-5-NOTE_W0QQitemZ200047333205QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3435QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Note as good looking, but not bad either. You must have been very very confident to convince people that they are proper notes.

i will keep searching then

Yeah its only the Northern Bank 5 pound note thats plastic. The pic I put is quite blurry though so i'll join the hunt for a better one

Actually I think merchants don't have to accept cash because you are never in debt to them.

Anyway, funny video.

http://www.banknotes.com/ien203.htm

Thats them

http://www.banknotes.com/ien203.htm

Thats them

They look pretty good, better than the ebay pics of them that I found (in my previous post edited).

You must have been very very confident to convince people that they are proper notes.

Its all in the delivery i.e. look more and more angry while pointing repeatedly at the "sterling" until they cave. Actually maybe its more about patience

Actually I think merchants don't have to accept cash because you are never in debt to them.

Anyway, funny video.Restaurants. You are asked for payment after you have consumed the product. Therefore you are indebted to the restaurant and may force them to accept cash. The same for Taxis as well.

I pay with my debit card.

I always pay in cash. I got a checkbook at the beginning of the summer, but I never use it because its something new to me so I don't feel like changing how I pay. Also I dont even know how much is in my checking account, so I wouldn't want to be in the situation where I was to try to pay with a check and find out I don't have any money.

In New Jersey self-service is illegal at gas stations. The attendant will ask how much gas you need, then pump that ammount into your car, then take the money. In states with self-service you go inside and pay first.
Oregon has a similar law. It is illegal to pump your own gas. It was a ballot initiative, and the people of Oregon voted away their rights to pump their own gas.

ok, so you have to know the amount you want before filling up if there is self service. I learn some thing new.
Not necessarily. If you pre-pay with plastic, the machine is just authorised to charge your card in advance - the actual amount it does change is determined by how much fuel you take.

People have probably seen this commerical...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDTDgVgQ9ic

Does this piss anyone else off as much as it does me? Making me out to be some sort of bumbling dinosaur standing in the way of progress because I... *GASP*...prefer to pay cash?

I'm sorry, but I don't like my name and all sorts of information running through a computer (which may or may not be secure) every time I want to buy a tank of gas or a meal at a restaurant.

You'll also notice what it says on your money (at least in the U.S.)...

"This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private"

So kiss my ass Visa...I'll pay cash until the day I'm dead.

People not yet born will stare at me oddly, wondering why I'm fishing around in my pockets for bits of folded paper...but it won't bother ME in the slightest!

My parents won't let me have a credit card. I have to pay with cash if I'm buying something myself.

And it's a baaadd idea to use store membership cards, they relax the prices on you until you scan that card at the checkout, then they jack it up to the regular price and say it's the store member price. Food Lion does that.

Also, nobody can steal your identity by using cash ;) (can they?)

Also, nobody can steal your identity by using cash ;) (can they?)
I can.

I can.

O RLY?

My parents won't let me have a credit card. I have to pay with cash if I'm buying something myself.

And it's a baaadd idea to use store membership cards, they relax the prices on you until you scan that card at the checkout, then they jack it up to the regular price and say it's the store member price. Food Lion does that.

Also, nobody can steal your identity by using cash ;) (can they?)

No, but they've got picture ID of George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and so on all the way up to Ben Franklin. By using cash you put our founding fathers in danger of having their identity stolen. It's unpatriotic and it's a damn low thing to do.

No, but they've got picture ID of George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and so on all the way up to Ben Franklin. By using cash you put our founding fathers in danger of having their identity stolen. It's unpatriotic and it's a damn low thing to do.

:eek: I feel so ashamed of myself.... :(

I haven't watched TV in years. Except for the Olympics. I never see any of these commercials. You would be amazed how much better I feel.

As an added bonus, I know very little about reality TV, Canadian Idol, whether or not the Simpsons even continue to exist, what many celebrities look like, it's great!

I gave up on TV a while ago, now if someone asks me "hey, did you see ... last night" (usually the simpsons :rolleyes: ) i can always smile and say "no, but if it was any good then i'll download it tonight" :)

I thought you couldn't refuse legal tender to settle a transaction unless it was a ridculous quanitity of small change being paid.

I want to go buy a giant TV or something and pay in £1 coins now... imagine paying hundreds of them :p £1 are legal tender so i think they have to accept... unless they get that "invitation to treat" thingy.
I also remember buying something (it was about £1.50) and paying with 1p/2p coins, they guys reaction was something along the lines of "oh, what?!"

are the people replying 13 or 30 cause no kid in my country has a credit card. all those that i have met

Im 15 and i've had a debit card, for about a year, my brother who's 11 has one as well...

Anyway, i nearly always pay cash, i only really buy things under £20, anything else i generally get over the internet with my card, i never have more than £50 on me at a time (and rarely over 50p for that matter)


As for the video, they forgot the part where the card doesnt work and it takes like 5 minutes to establish that either the machines broken, or find a card that works ;) meanwhile other people pay with exact change...

Any way about legal tender, you should read about the UK's messed up system (officially anyway, unofficially it is ok unless you try paying with a scottish £1 note in england because they don't believe such a thing exists :p ). messed up UK legal tender (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender#Legal_tender_in_the_United_Kingdom)
I've seen a documentary on the German highway police who happened to pull over a Scotsman for speeding.
He was so happy he could pay in Scottish £s (after the cops made a quick call to the local savings bank to check) that he didn't really mind the fine.
I've seen it on TV. It must be true. ><

I pay cash, handling the change sometimes annoys me but... I pay cash most of the time.

I've seen a documentary on the German highway police who happened to pull over a Scotsman for speeding.
He was so happy he could pay in Scottish £s (after the cops made a quick call to the local savings bank to check) that he didn't really mind the fine.
I've seen it on TV. It must be true. ><

So the German highway police will accept any currency, or any currency in the EU or they were feeling kind in this case?

So the German highway police will accept any currency, or any currency in the EU or they were feeling kind in this case?
I believe they will accept most currencies that can be exchanged into Euros by our banks, but Euros are preferred.

It's either that or not getting any money from the truckers crossing our land... So they usually take what they can get, even if that means accepting foreign currency. (I don't think it has to do with kindness...)