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I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

Yeah, but they got 1 BILLION more people than we do, foo!

Yeah, but they got 1 BILLION more people than we do, foo!

lol, it's true; they do.

And also, the United States is the 2nd largest country in the world when you include more than just the Continental part...

We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

So if your idea of 'better' is in terms of total land area. Canada has pwn'ed the US of A. ;)

I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

I don't know about the numbers, but your premise definitely has some issues.

Bigger in square miles, perhaps. The thing people generally bandy about when they talk about China being bigger than the US now is population. The thing they bandy about in the near future is economy.

lol, it's true; they do.

And also, the United States is the 2nd largest country in the world when you include more than just the Continental part...
Noooo Canada still has a lock on 2nd place.

Really? All these years I've been fed lies. We could still kick China in the balls when it comes to war though, they need us to have a place to export, and also we have a bigger budget/much better soldiers and weapons. We have more nukes than them too. And stronger allies. Also many accountants and experts say their economy is growing too fast, and its bubble will pop in the next 5 years, probably 2009. Yay!

I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?
We REALLY need to emphasis geography more in schools.

Because someone has to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_by_area

That's disputed area also. I'm talking non-disputed, including colonies, or places their gov't controls. US bigger. US hungry. US eat you!

Really? All these years I've been fed lies. We could still kick China in the balls when it comes to war though, they need us to have a place to export, and also we have a bigger budget/much better soldiers and weapons. We have more nukes than them too. And stronger allies. Also many accountants and experts say their economy is growing too fast, and its bubble will pop in the next 5 years, probably 2009. Yay!

Why is this a good thing for the US? China is a staple part of our economy, if they crash and burn the US may experience severe price spikes. And the last thing we need is such a large and armed country in 3rd world conditions.

I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.
Very good. You can read; you passed grade 1.

That's disputed area also. I'm talking non-disputed, including colonies, or places their gov't controls. US bigger. US hungry. US eat you!

Four words. Land War, Asia, don't.

Four words. Land War, Asia, don't.

Here's some more:

Nukes. Don't.

Of course, there's also:

Air. Force. Pwns. CHINA.

China's airforce sucks. The Chinese economy joke was sarcastic, and China is competing with the US.

China's airforce sucks.

That's what I said. :mad:

US Air Force: #1
China's AF: some number greater than 10

Result:

USAF pwns CAF

However, landwise, the US army would get eaten by the 1.3 billion Chinese people.

Funny. I was always under the impression that USA was bigger than China.
So did the PRC.
Earlier this year, the Chinese authorities remeasured their country and found a few extra thousand sq kms, which pushed them up over USA.
There was a huge song-and-dance about it in the press there.

Somehow, this 'proved' how great China is.


Which should tell you something about the sizeness of the chip China carries around on it's shoulder when comparing itself to the rest of the world.

Their stuff is outdated. We have a maximum of about 15,000,000 troops in the military. I'd say 1 of our guys could kill about 5-6 of theirs.

Their stuff is outdated. We have a maximum of about 15,000,000 troops in the military. I'd say 1 of our guys could kill about 5-6 of theirs.

Right. Like in vietnam, where around 60,000 americans died, but over a million NV/VC died.

Their stuff is outdated. We have a maximum of about 15,000,000 troops in the military. I'd say 1 of our guys could kill about 5-6 of theirs.

Uh, actually no. The US has approximately 1.5 million active troops, and 2.6 million total troops. Far less than 15 million.

This thread is the manifestation of fail, someone says US is bigger than China, some random fools pop up and say 'ZOMG we pwnzors China!!!111shift', sad really.

And if size meant anything, Russia and Canada would be the superpowers.

we've known that its just that the old commies in bejing dont want to admit it.

Uh, actually no. The US has approximately 1.5 million active troops, and 2.6 million total troops. Far less than 15 million.


yeah china's definately got the biggest military but...its so completely out dated. a war with china would be so easy the US has frikin stealth bombers china's got old soviet-esq turbo-prop bombers we've got f-22 raptors which can pull mach 8 theve got...cans.

Funny. I was always under the impression that USA was bigger than China.
So did the PRC.
Earlier this year, the Chinese authorities remeasured their country and found a few extra thousand sq kms, which pushed them up over USA.
There was a huge song-and-dance about it in the press there.

Somehow, this 'proved' how great China is.


Which should tell you something about the sizeness of the chip China carries around on it's shoulder when comparing itself to the rest of the world.

wft...how do you just...find 10 million square miles of land? yeah.

wft...how do you just...find 10 million square miles of land? yeah.

Shanghai statistics.

Rule # 1. The CPC can make up any numbers they want to and no, you cannot verify a damn thing the CPC says.

Why does some moron always propose war with China or speculate about it? It sure as hell isn't going to happen, so shut the hell up.

yeah china's definately got the biggest military but...its so completely out dated. a war with china would be so easy the US has frikin stealth bombers china's got old soviet-esq turbo-prop bombers we've got f-22 raptors which can pull mach 8 theve got...cans.


F22's can pull what?

Look, you might have the hightech gadgets, but what good has it done you so far? You can't even control Iraq - how can you possibly hope to defeat China?

Retreats into the shadows, wondering why I even bothered to be part of this my-country-is-bigger-than-yours wank-a-thon...

I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

What is with you Americans and having big things? It's not the size that matters; it's how you use it!

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

Lol, no.

What is with you Americans and having big things? It's not the size that matters; it's how you use it!

America = Big penis with ED.
China = God in bed.

America = Big penis with STI's.
China = God in bed.
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I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?Depends entirely which atlas you're looking at. And it already got pointed out.
(http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11990303&postcount=9)

*fixed*

You said STI, and for that, I will love you forever.

You said STI, and for that, I will love you forever.
Why? :confused:

Why? :confused:

Because you're up to date.

lol, it's true; they do.

And also, the United States is the 2nd largest country in the world when you include more than just the Continental part...

Pardon me? Canada happens to be the holder of that title, not the US. Get your facts straight and weed out the government propaganda that is fed to you by the truckload.

Right. Like in vietnam, where around 60,000 americans died, but over a million NV/VC died.

they arent as alergic to body bags as u guys are. guns help, but the person behind the guns hold the key. having an army with no cause and fearful of death will result in defeat no matter how big your guns.

Pardon me? Canada happens to be the holder of that title, not the US. Get your facts straight and weed out the government propaganda that is fed to you by the truckload.
Someone needs to readjust their G-string... :p

Guess what? I made some calculation with the areas listed in Wikipedia, and it turns out that EU (without Greenland but with new entries of Bulgaria and Romania) is about 3,7 M km^2, thus placing above India!
And with Greenland (reign of Denmark) it goes up to a little less than 6 M km^2..., just 1 M less than Australia! Wow, I sometimes don't realise how big Europe is.

lol, it's true; they do.

And also, the United States is the 2nd largest country in the world when you include more than just the Continental part...

I thought Canada and Russia were bigger than the USA

Here's some more:

Nukes. Don't.

Of course, there's also:

Air. Force. Pwns. CHINA.

There is one small flaw in this plan... you have to get the airforce to China first...

Thanks to this thread
http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/cats/happycat.jpg

lol, it's true; they do.

And also, the United States is the 2nd largest country in the world when you include more than just the Continental part...

What happens when you let Australia include the Australian Antartic Territory?

Their stuff is outdated. We have a maximum of about 15,000,000 troops in the military. I'd say 1 of our guys could kill about 5-6 of theirs.

Please clear that ignorance before making yourself look stupid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops

America has 1.4mil active troops while China has 2.2mil and during the korean war, the chinese did not have any airplanes but guess *shock* they pushed US troops back to the South from the North and went all the wway past Seoul

This thread hurts my brain.

OP loses at the internets.

I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

Why is there always this need to whip 'em out and measure 'em?

Please clear that ignorance before making yourself look stupid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops

America has 1.4mil active troops while China has 2.2mil and during the korean war, the chinese did not have any airplanes but guess *shock* they pushed US troops back to the South from the North and went all the wway past Seoul

Well said...

Why is there always this need to whip 'em out and measure 'em?

No clue, but the PRC's "remeasuring" is bogus at best. They're included independent countries, for crying out loud.

Even Kashmir!

There is one small flaw in this plan... you have to get the airforce to China first...

Navy. Pwns.

All you need is ONE airport in China and then you can bomb them.

Of course, in a land war, we'd be doomed, so that port would have to be coastal...

No clue, but the PRC's "remeasuring" is bogus at best. They're included independent countries, for crying out loud.

Even Kashmir!

If I was in Kashmir I would be getting quite nervous about that... Given what happened to other places that China has said were part of China...

Rank Country Area (km²) Notes
1 Russia 17,098,242 Prior to its dissolution in 1991, the Soviet Union had an area of 22,402,200 km².
2 Canada 9,970,610 Total surface area is 9,984,670 km² according to Statistics Canada
3, 4 (disputed) People's Republic of China (PRC) 9,598,0861 or 9,640,8212 Total of separate UN figures for mainland China and the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau. Both values exclude the disputed territories of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu which the Republic of China has continued to govern after the PRC replaced it on the mainland.

1 Excludes all disputed territories.
2 Includes PRC-administered disputed territories (Aksai Chin, Trans-Karakoram Tract and Arunachal Pradesh, both territories claimed by India).

United States 9,629,091 Includes only its 50 states and the District of Columbia


This is from wikipedia, Like it or not, if you add disputed territories, China is bigger, if you dont America is bigger

And land size does not count for everything, the country with the highest GDP in the whole is Luxembourg and its 2,586 squarekilometers

Rank Country Area (km²) Notes
1 Russia 17,098,242 Prior to its dissolution in 1991, the Soviet Union had an area of 22,402,200 km².
2 Canada 9,970,610 Total surface area is 9,984,670 km² according to Statistics Canada
3, 4 (disputed) People's Republic of China (PRC) 9,598,0861 or 9,640,8212 Total of separate UN figures for mainland China and the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau. Both values exclude the disputed territories of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu which the Republic of China has continued to govern after the PRC replaced it on the mainland.

1 Excludes all disputed territories.
2 Includes PRC-administered disputed territories (Aksai Chin, Trans-Karakoram Tract and Arunachal Pradesh, both territories claimed by India).

United States 9,629,091 Includes only its 50 states and the District of Columbia


This is from wikipedia, Like it or not, if you add disputed territories, China is bigger, if you dont America is bigger

And land size does not count for everything, the country with the highest GDP in the whole is Luxembourg and its 2,586 squarekilometers

Like it or not? No, that's not how it goes. The PRC is trying to shove some sense of superiority down everyone's throat, and they attempt to do so by factoring in territories that they don't even control.

That would be like the U.S.A. factoring in Great Britain and Japan.

Like it or not? No, that's not how it goes. The PRC is trying to shove some sense of superiority down everyone's throat, and they attempt to do so by factoring in territories that they don't even control.

That would be like the U.S.A. factoring in Great Britain and Japan.

DISPUTED TERRITORIES!!!!!!! Is japan a disputed territory of America?

I know china is being an ass but does it the hell matter who control more land?

DISPUTED TERRITORIES!!!!!!! Is japan a disputed territory of America?

I know china is being an ass but does it the hell matter who control more land?

I said that because they're factoring in a territory that's not even disputed by them (to the best of my knowledge; feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

And that's Kashmir, a territory that's been disputed by India and Pakistan for quite some time.

I said that because they're factoring in a territory that's not even disputed by them (to the best of my knowledge; feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

And that's Kashmir, a territory that's been disputed by India and Pakistan for quite some time.


Thats why in my mind america is bigger, so why are u telling me?




kashmir dispute is a very petty agument. if i was god i would give China,india and pakistan 3 Choices

1. Take what you control now and leave it
2. Kashmir becomes a new independant country
3. All three countries are wipped off the planet

Uh, actually no. The US has approximately 1.5 million active troops, and 2.6 million total troops. Far less than 15 million.

No, all out war, with draft, means 5% of people which is 15 million.

No, all out war, with draft, means 5% of people which is 15 million.

America has a population of around 300million, if we are going on a full out war, tell me, what is 1% of a 1.3billon population of china

Thats 13million

Yes, but when most of them aren't trained and carry knives, I'd say our state of the art highly trained supersoldiers could kill them. So could our buttload of nukes and proper funding/good ol' fashion american patriotism. Why is it that people get jealous of the US? Why wouldn't you want the US to be stronger, we're on your side.

Yes, but when most of them aren't trained and carry knives, I'd say our state of the art highly trained supersoldiers could kill them. So could our buttload of nukes and proper funding/good ol' fashion american patriotism. Why is it that people get jealous of the US? Why wouldn't you want the US to be stronger, we're on your side.

People are jealous of America?

Why wouldn't you want the US to be stronger, we're on your side.

Who are you trying to fool? America is on nobody’s side but their own...

One more thing, Im Chinese but i live in Singapore and tell me are you saying that china so poorly develop that its army is made of men wearing nothng but a loin cloth and only equiped with a spear?

btw, China is the 2nd highest in millitary spending, of course America is number one and spend 2 times more but this tells you they are not easy to beat

No, it was a hyperbole. US forces are, in general, superior to Chinese forces.

People are jealous of America?

I wonder what caused 9/11? Are you kidding, I've been lots of places and see that people lust after us, most in a good way but some with malicous intent...

I wonder what caused 9/11? Are you kidding, I've been lots of places and see that people lust after us, most in a good way but some with malicous intent...

You're either young or daft, I haven't decided which yet.

11/9 wasn't caused by people being jealous of America.

I wonder what caused 9/11? Are you kidding, I've been lots of places and see that people lust after us, most in a good way but some with malicous intent...

You kidding right?

You telling me people smash a plane into a national monument because they are jealous? You idiocy makes me laugh and scares me at th same time

Yes, actually. The islamic extremists don't like us, I wonder why. Perhaps our name starts with "A"? Maybe it's because of the colors in our flag? Hmm, perhaps, jealousy played a role.

Yes, but when most of them aren't trained and carry knives, I'd say our state of the art highly trained supersoldiers could kill them. So could our buttload of nukes and proper funding/good ol' fashion american patriotism.
Supersoldiers? Seriously? National Pride can be a good thing and all, but when it causes severe overconfidence it leads you into the shit.

And if you want to include the Draft in your figures... those boys aint gonna be highly trained super soldiers by ANY stretch.

And yes - you do have boatloads of Nukes... and China doesn't?

I said that because they're factoring in a territory that's not even disputed by them (to the best of my knowledge; feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

And that's Kashmir, a territory that's been disputed by India and Pakistan for quite some time.Not according to Wiki. It says PRC administered disputed territories, meaning territories that are claimed by someone else, but that are governed by China. It would be like counting Puerto Rico and Guam for the US.

Yes, actually. The islamic extremists don't like us, I wonder why. Perhaps our name starts with "A"? Maybe it's because of the colors in our flag? Hmm, perhaps, jealousy played a role.

Those are the only three choices you're giving me? Glad you've thought a lot about this

Yes, actually. The islamic extremists don't like us, I wonder why. Perhaps our name starts with "A"? Maybe it's because of the colors in our flag? Hmm, perhaps, jealousy played a role.

You know what, you have just opened a window in my life, of couse their jealous! i thought that if was because of silly old politics.

Silly me. :D

I said that because they're factoring in a territory that's not even disputed by them (to the best of my knowledge; feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

And that's Kashmir, a territory that's been disputed by India and Pakistan for quite some time.

China occupies Aksai Chin - roughly 20% of original Jammu&Kashmir state, following their invasion in 1962. Plus a thin slice of land called the Shaksgam valley donated to them by the Paks. They are not claiming anything else but they are not going to give up what they hold now.

They claim Arunachal Pradesh (an actual state of India currently) but it is suspected that it is for bargaining purposes on the table ("ok we give up claims to Arunachal Pradesh, you give up claims to Aksai Chin").:rolleyes:

Yes, actually. The islamic extremists don't like us, I wonder why. Perhaps our name starts with "A"? Maybe it's because of the colors in our flag? Hmm, perhaps, jealousy played a role.

That is so ridiculously naive... In the big wide world people don't envy the States. They HATE the States. They hate how the States thinks it should be envied. They hate how it thinks it's so much better than everyone else. They hate how Americans talk down to them. They hate how Americans feel that they have something amazing to bring to their culture.

It's just like people used to hate the English 100 years ago.

I read in an atlas, it turns out the US is bigger than China.

It said:

USA: 3,717,792 sq miles
PRC: 3,705,386 sq miles

So, I guess we are bigger than China! We are therefor better! Yay! USA! USA! So is this right?

but that would then make russia the greatest country in the world. and that is something that russia is not.

The USA IS bigger than China. It's true that they outnumber us, but especially after Thanksgiving, we outweigh them! :D :D :D

I wonder what caused 9/11? Are you kidding, I've been lots of places and see that people lust after us, most in a good way but some with malicous intent...

t'was caused by evil nazis.

What is with you Americans and having big things? It's not the size that matters; it's how you use it!

A typical response from someone with a small one. Nation that is... ;)

It's just like people used to hate the English 100 years ago.

they still do dont they? iv not met a european that likes the english yet...

Not only is China a powerful nation right now but can you imagine what China will be in the future if its current pace is not disturbed? Right now, China's economy is in a boom, regardless how Chinese rulers want it to slow down this current phenomenon (economy). They are resizing and upgrading their armies, and that's unlike the China we know (relying on huge numbers of soldiers) now China wants to model the developed nation's armies (small but efficient). Let's not forget, this country has the ability to feed over a billion people!!! And its cities are growing in one hundred million a year! For sure, China will be the gorilla in Asia and American influence in that region will be lessened. Current China seems to be dependent on American trade but notice how Chinese companies are fiercely venturing into Africa, South America, Middle East, and even in North America. China was economically and militarily powerful, and scientifically advanced nation for thousands of years, finally it’s getting its reputation back on track.

they still do dont they? iv not met a european that likes the english yet...

Only out of laziness. It saves deciding which team to support if you guys are in a match

Not only is China a powerful nation right now but can you imagine what China will be in the future if its current pace is not disturbed? Right now, China's economy is in a boom, regardless how Chinese rulers want it to slow down this current phenomenon (economy). They are resizing and upgrading their armies, and that's unlike the China we know (relying on huge numbers of soldiers) now China wants to model the developed nation's armies (small but efficient). Let's not forget, this country has the ability to feed over a billion people!!! And its cities are growing in one hundred million a year! For sure, China will be the gorilla in Asia and American influence in that region will be lessened. Current China seems to be dependent on American trade but notice how Chinese companies are fiercely venturing into Africa, South America, Middle East, and even in North America. China was economically and militarily powerful, and scientifically advanced nation for thousands of years, finally it’s getting its reputation back on track.


This is indeed correct. In New Zealand for Instance, people are begining to look away from the traditional markets of the USA and Great Britain and look more and more at China as a trading partner, and to a growing extent India as well (another country experiencing a huge economic boom).

Yay! Source!

Biggest Country (http://geography.about.com/od/countryinformation/a/bigcountries.htm)

1. Russia: 17,075,200 km2 (6,591,027 mi2)

2. Canada: 9,984,670 km2 (3,854,082 mi2)

3. United States: 9,631,418 km2 (3,717,727 mi2)

4. China: 9,596,960 km2 (3,704,426 mi2)

Funny. I was always under the impression that USA was bigger than China.
So did the PRC.
Earlier this year, the Chinese authorities remeasured their country and found a few extra thousand sq kms, which pushed them up over USA.
There was a huge song-and-dance about it in the press there.

Somehow, this 'proved' how great China is.


Which should tell you something about the sizeness of the chip China carries around on it's shoulder when comparing itself to the rest of the world.
Well, I always hear how asian men have small penises, so maybe having a bigger country allows them to compensate for other areas.

Yes, but when most of them aren't trained and carry knives, I'd say our state of the art highly trained supersoldiers could kill them. So could our buttload of nukes and proper funding/good ol' fashion american patriotism. Why is it that people get jealous of the US? Why wouldn't you want the US to be stronger, we're on your side.

Demaray,

As an American citizen, working for the United States government, I do declare that you are a fool.

In Soviet Russia, land measures you!

But seriously the USA may be bigger in land size but China has a bigger population. Plus America had a very big problem when it felt it could take on the world examples: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. If none of those nations could be handled easily there isn't a chance of beating China. America may have better guns but war doesn't rely on the bigger guns, it relies on emeotion.

Really? All these years I've been fed lies. We could still kick China in the balls when it comes to war though, they need us to have a place to export, and also we have a bigger budget/much better soldiers and weapons. We have more nukes than them too. And stronger allies. Also many accountants and experts say their economy is growing too fast, and its bubble will pop in the next 5 years, probably 2009. Yay!No they don't, at least not as much as they once did, and in the future they will need the US even less. Trade within the region is becoming increasingly dominant.

From the CIA World Factbook
Chinese exports: US 21.4%, Hong Kong 16.3%, Japan 11%, South Korea 4.6%, Germany 4.3%
US total: 21.4%
Top 3 asian trade partner total: 31.9%

China increasingly needs the US less and less. The same goes for the whole of East and South-East Asia.

In Soviet Russia, land measures you!

But seriously the USA may be bigger in land size but China has a bigger population. Plus America had a very big problem when it felt it could take on the world examples: Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. If none of those nations could be handled easily there isn't a chance of beating China. America may have better guns but war doesn't rely on the bigger guns, it relies on emeotion.

What you say is true, except for the part about Afghanistan. We handled that very easily, until BushCo decided to hit Iraq. The Iraqi conflict almost completely drained our military resources in Afghanistan... Which is why the Taliban have made a resurgence.

Stupid, isn't it?

A typical response from someone with a small one. Nation that is... ;)

Well, it shall be comforting to you to know that I have none then. Nation, that is. :p

<snip> USA! USA! <snip>

Why isn't there an acronym for "who gives a shit?"?

Well, it shall be comforting to you to know that I have none then. Nation, that is. :p

I hear that some have two :eek:

nation, that is ;)

I hear that some have two :eek:

nation, that is ;)

*slaps Aryavartha with a rod*

I hear that some have two :eek:

nation, that is ;)

Now 3 nations, that'd be interesting. They could form a tripod!

of nations, that is. :p