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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/Avatar_world_map.jpg/250px-Avatar_world_map.jpg

Take a good look at that map. LOOK!

Now, I know things aren't nearly the size they are in real-life, but the positions of two important "nations" are the same.

The Air Nomad Nation (the largest one) and the Fire Nation (the red one) are the ones I'm talking about.

The Fire Nation invaded the Air Nomad Nation, correct?

Nomads virtually exist only in Asia, correct? The Middle East?

All the nations are preindustrial EXCEPT for the Fire Nation, correct (got this from wikipedia)?

So, doesn't this show you something?

United States of America - Industrialized nation, powerful, invaded the Middle East and completely destroyed it.

Middle East - Full of nomads, spiritual, invaded by America and is destroyed (or in the process of being destroyed).

Fire Nation - Industrialized nation, powerful, invaded the Air Nomad Nation and completely destroyed it.

Air Nomad Nation - Full of nomads, spiritual, invaded by the Fire Nation and is destroyed (or in the process of being destroyed).

Now, a "savior" from the Air Nomad Nation (the Avatar) has arisen to destroy the Fire Nation.

Now, a "savior" from the Middle East (Saudi Arabia) has arisen to destroy America.

Note that the Fire Nation has the largest Navy in the Avatar world.

Note that America has the largest Navy in the real world.

Note that the Fire Nation is the Superpower in this show.

Note that America is a Superpower in the real world.

Also note how the Fire Nation was peaceful until it saw it's opportunity to attack and get richer (so to say). Also note how the Fire Nation and the Air Nomad Nation are in the same spots as North America (home of America) and Asia (home of a portion of the Middle East). The editors just changed the sizes of the nations just to hide one fact:

Avatar: The Last Airbender is anti-American.

It's not anti-American, it's anti-everyone else.

The rest of the world isn't even on the bleedin' map for Chrissake!

Quit your bellyachin', melon-head.

I think, and this is only a thought, that you are looking too much into this.

I only read one third of that post, and already I rue this day.

And I'm the queen of France.

I'm a queen .

That would be more like it.

That would be more like it.

Yes it would.

And, today is Thanksgiving. Today is BORING.

And I think that Pokemon was anti-semitic. That Pikachu hated Jews. Damn Jap.

That would be more like it.

Aww Fass, you know I only dress up as a queen for you.

And I think that Pokemon was anti-semitic.

Cuz teh jooz were teh ebil onez!!!!111!!!!shift+one!!!!eleventy-one!

This thread is going nowhere. It's a sad day when the OP has to do this:

+1

Aww Fass, you know I only dress up as a queen for you.

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/29/querelle.jpg

Me, and the sailors at the dock, mon petit Querelle.

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True.

Nomads virtually exist only in Asia, correct?

Incorrect.

I guess this means you're wrong.

Well, that alone doesn't mean you're wrong. It's just one of the things that means you are.



Not much of a surprise.

Incorrect.

I guess this means you're wrong.

Well, that alone doesn't mean you're wrong. It's just one of the things that means you are.



Not much of a surprise.

When people think of Nomads, people think usually of the Bedouins; or the Middle Eastern (Saudi Arabian) Nomads.

What about Star Wars, huh?

The Seperatist threat is manufactured by Palpatine.

Just like some people say Bush manufactured 9-11.

The Galactic Empire was to provide 'safe and secure society'

As in safe from terrorists?

And they aren't defeated by another traditional army. They're defeated at Yavin 4 by a bunch of pilots on what is practically a suicide mission, and then on Endor by a bunch of native guerilla fighters, and by Al-Qa... er... the Rebellion blowing up an imperial facility.

What about Star Wars, huh?

The Seperatist threat is manufactured by Palpatine.

Just like some people say Bush manufactured 9-11.

The Galactic Empire was to provide 'safe and secure society'

As in safe from terrorists?

And they aren't defeated by another traditional army. They're defeated at Yavin 4 by a bunch of pilots on what is practically a suicide mission, and then on Endor by a bunch of native guerilla fighters, and by Al-Qa... er... the Rebellion blowing up an imperial facility.


LOL! I never thought of it that way :D

So much anti-Americanism being driven into our minds. Which, can help us, right?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/Avatar_world_map.jpg/250px-Avatar_world_map.jpg

Take a good look at that map. LOOK!suggest you do the same.

Now, I know things aren't nearly the size they are in real-life, but the positions of two important "nations" are the same.

The Air Nomad Nation (the largest one) and the Fire Nation (the red one) are the ones I'm talking about.sorry, but the Air Nation is NOT the Largest one, but the EARTH Nation is. the Air Nomads are the White masses that are mostly mountains. the large area is the Earth nation.
The Fire Nation invaded the Air Nomad Nation, correct?no, the Fire Nation Destroyed the Air Nomads. Wiped them out completely... hence the title Avatar:The LAST Airbender

Nomads virtually exist only in Asia, correct? The Middle East?nope, nomads are people who wander, they are not a race. so africa also has Nomads, Europe, as well as North and South America also have nomads.

All the nations are preindustrial EXCEPT for the Fire Nation, correct (got this from wikipedia)? correct... so far...

So, doesn't this show you something?

United States of America - Industrialized nation, powerful, invaded the Middle East and completely destroyed it.is the USA the ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED nation in the world? no. Did the USA invade the Middle East for the sole purpose of wiping out their people? no.

Middle East - Full of nomads, spiritual, invaded by America and is destroyed (or in the process of being destroyed).thanks for ignoring India, Japan, China and other parts of the world that also have their culture steeped in religon.

Now, a "savior" from the Air Nomad Nation (the Avatar) has arisen to destroy the Fire Nation.nope, the Avatar is supposed to bring Peace, not Destruction. Besides, should the Fire Nation be destroyed, then there won't be any avatars since the avatar won't beable to master the Fire Element..

Avatar: The Last Airbender is anti-American.you can easily say that Avatar: The Last Airbender is Chinese Propoganda since it produces a world where the Chinese culture supasses all other cultures to be the only one in the world.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/Avatar_world_map.jpg/250px-Avatar_world_map.jpg

Take a good look at that map. LOOK!


...and you lost me right there. Wanna know why?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Petrie.gif

When people think of Nomads, people think usually of the Bedouins; or the Middle Eastern (Saudi Arabian) Nomads.

They do?

Have you conducted a survey to back this claim up?

sorry, but the Air Nation is NOT the Largest one, but the EARTH Nation is. the Air Nomads are the White masses that are mostly mountains. the large area is the Earth nation.

Well, shows how much I know about that show :D

no, the Fire Nation Destroyed the Air Nomads. Wiped them out completely... hence the title Avatar:The LAST Airbender

Meh.

nope, nomads are people who wander, they are not a race. so africa also has Nomads, Europe, as well as North and South America also have nomads.

Yes, it's true. But like I said above, if you say "Nomad" to the people who actually know what a Nomad is, more than half will probably think "Bedouin" (who "live" in the Middle East)


is the USA the ONLY INDUSTRIALIZED nation in the world? no.
It isn't, but it is industrialized; just like the Fire Nation.

Did the USA invade the Middle East for the sole purpose of wiping out their people? no.

That can be subject to debate...

thanks for ignoring India, Japan, China and other parts of the world that also have their culture steeped in religon.

My focus was the Middle East.

nope, the Avatar is supposed to bring Peace, not Destruction.

Is that why he brings peace by killing Fire Nationites (or whatever their called, I think it's Firebenders)? Just like Osama brings "peace" by killing Westerners and their supporters?

you can easily say that Avatar: The Last Airbender is Chinese Propoganda since it produces a world where the Chinese culture supasses all other cultures to be the only one in the world.

You can say anything is Chinese Propaganda; like tea.

They do?

Have you conducted a survey to back this claim up?

Well, seeing as to how I'm a US-Centric person (not saying that you said that, just making fun of myself there), people in the USA will think of Bedouins. But hey, it's the USA!

...and you lost me right there. Wanna know why?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Petrie.gif

The Land Before Time? :D

Well, seeing as to how I'm a US-Centric person (not saying that you said that, just making fun of myself there), people in the USA will think of Bedouins. But hey, it's the USA!

You've lost me....because you're a US-centric person people in the USA will think of bedouins?

You've lost me....because you're a US-centric person people in the USA will think of bedouins?

Because I'm US-Centric (which I'm not, BTW), when UI say "people" I mean "Americans".

I thought you were going to point out how the largest continent kinda looks like North America.

But then I heard your actual point, which, frankly, made no sense.

Nomads virtually exist only in Asia, correct? The Middle East?Nope. Nomadic tendencies can be found throughout Africa and Mongolia in addition to a few that live in the Middle East.

When people think of Nomads, people think usually of the Bedouins; or the Middle Eastern (Saudi Arabian) Nomads.
Really? I tend to think of the Mongolians first.
AFAIK the US hasn't invaded Mongolia, so I guess this makes your highly convoluted premise erroneous.

Word of advice: Stop listening to what the gnome who lives inside your toaster tells you. He ain't nufink but trouble.

LOL! I never thought of it that way :D

So much anti-Americanism being driven into our minds. Which, can help us, right?
Gee those star wars folks are more clever than I thought. Sure the prequal movies all sucked, but since they apparently invented a time-machine so they could go forward in time, find out what the US would be up to in the future and then return back in time to create their filthy propaganda, it's much more of an achievement than I'd previously credited them with.:rolleyes:

Star Wars: Episode 1 = 1999
George Bush becomes President of the US = 2000

It's more likely George is basing his foreign policy on Star Wars: Episode 1, than it is that the movie is based on his presidency...more likely it's neither. So apparently RL events and fiction can have strong correlations without either being based on the other...Who'd 'a thunk huh?:p

Really? I tend to think of the Mongolians first.
AFAIK the US hasn't invaded Mongolia, so I guess this makes your highly convoluted premise erroneous.

Word of advice: Stop listening to what the gnome who lives inside your toaster tells you. He ain't nufink but trouble.

Ugh, I can't believe people actually took this point seriously. Anyways, I can't believe I actually defended this!

Anyways, I'll defend myself:

Word of advice: Stop juding people you see over the internet. They may be smarter than you. It ain't nufink but trouble.

Well, seeing as to how I'm a US-Centric person (not saying that you said that, just making fun of myself there), people in the USA will think of Bedouins. But hey, it's the USA!If you're so US centric, why didn't you think of trailer park dwellers if you think of nomads?

yeah. and my first name is saddam. :rolleyes:

If you're so US centric, why didn't you think of trailer park dwellers if you think of nomads?

Because since I'm US-centric, I don't like to make fun of my own people :D

yeah. and my first name is saddam. :rolleyes:

It is?! You learn something new everyday!

I just want to say this: When I hear the word Nomad, I think of (for some strange reason) Spongebob and Patrick (from the Nickelodeon Show Spongebob Squarepants) in a tent with beards. Don't know why.

Oh, and Aang only attacks the Firebenders because they attack him or someone else first. And Firenation looks nothing like North America. It looks more like a red dragon to me.

It is?! You learn something new everyday!

i was being sarcastic. what do you thin the :rolleyes: smiley means?

yeah. and my first name is saddam. :rolleyes:

Hey, my last name is Hussein !!!

Maybe we should.....ummm...errrrr.....:p ;)

I just want to say this: When I hear the word Nomad, I think of (for some strange reason) Spongebob and Patrick (from the Nickelodeon Show Spongebob Squarepants) in a tent with beards. Don't know why.

That's...scary.

Oh, and Aang only attacks the Firebenders because they attack him or someone else first. And Firenation looks nothing like North America. It looks more like a red dragon to me.

Bin Muhammad bin 'Awad also claimed that the Americans attacked him (or Afghanistan) first.

Anyways, I don't really believe this. More like a "joke" point.

i was being sarcastic. what do you thin the :rolleyes: smiley means?

So was I. I didn't really believe that; I'm not [that] dumb.

Yes, it's true. But like I said above, if you say "Nomad" to the people who actually know what a Nomad is, more than half will probably think "Bedouin" (who "live" in the Middle East)actually, when someone mentions Nomad to me, I think of certain tribes of American Indians, Gypsies (European) several tribes of Pygmies and aborigonies before thinking about anyone in the Middle East.

It isn't, but it is industrialized; just like the Fire Nation. so it could also be a reference to Britian's coloinization of China, or India...

That can be subject to debate...debate it then. If the US wanted to wipe out the Middle east, then several low yeld tac nukes would do the job if they were "Accidentally dropped" while being transported from one area to another. we pay a fine and help clean up the mess... and guess what... where' there!

meanwhile the Air nation was wiped out to prevent the Avatar from returning.

My focus was the Middle East.and that is a problem, you are focusing on one thing.

Is that why he brings peace by killing Fire Nationites (or whatever their called, I think it's Firebenders)? Just like Osama brings "peace" by killing Westerners and their supporters?except the Avatar will need to learn Firebending... hard to do when there is no more Fire nationals to teach him... also what happens when the firenation gives birth to the Avatar...

You can say anything is Chinese Propaganda; like tea.just like you can say anything is anti-USA. check out the other threads here on NSG.

So was I. I didn't really believe that; I'm not [that] dumb.
i did not think you believed that.

You can say anything is Chinese Propaganda; like tea.

Would you consider this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68) to be chinese propaganda?

When people think of Nomads, people think usually of the Bedouins; or the Middle Eastern (Saudi Arabian) Nomads.

Or Mongols, Blackfeet, Huns, Magyars, Goths, Zulu...

Would you consider this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68) to be chinese propaganda?

Obviously. Children = Chinese Weapons of War.

JuNii - Remember that this was just a "joke point". But, if I was serious, you made some good arguments.

Obviously. Children = Chinese Weapons of War.

JuNii - Remember that this was just a "joke point". But, if I was serious, you made some good arguments.

i don't see any children in that video.

Or Mongols, Blackfeet, Huns, Magyars, Goths, Zulu...
Lets not forget Emos! :D

The Land Before Time? :D
Yup. ;)

i don't see any children in that video.

In the beginning when it says "Helsignin Valituskuoro", you have 2 in red and pink in the background.

In the beginning when it says "Helsignin Valituskuoro", you have 2 in red and pink in the background.
ok, so there are 2 in the background. so?


do you have any other reason to think that video is chinese propaganda?

ok, so there are 2 in the background. so?

Propaganda never pops out at you. It's always subtle.


do you have any other reason to think that video is chinese propaganda?

It's non-American, so it's not only Chinese Propaganda, it's Commie Propaganda.

Disclaimer: I believe none of this (except the part in which I said that propaganda is subtle).

Propaganda never pops out at you. It's always subtle.




It's non-American, so it's not only Chinese Propaganda, it's Commie Propaganda.

Disclaimer: I believe none of this (except the part in which I said that propaganda is subtle).

yeha, but no-one will really catch that there are children in the background, so they can't be trying to convince you that way.

yeha, but no-one will really catch that there are children in the background, so they can't be trying to convince you that way.

True that.

just like you can say anything is anti-USA. check out the other threads here on NSG.

yeah. king bodacious believes all my posts are anti-american.

Gee those star wars folks are more clever than I thought. Sure the prequal movies all sucked, but since they apparently invented a time-machine so they could go forward in time, find out what the US would be up to in the future and then return back in time to create their filthy propaganda, it's much more of an achievement than I'd previously credited them with.:rolleyes:

Star Wars: Episode 1 = 1999
George Bush becomes President of the US = 2000

It's more likely George is basing his foreign policy on Star Wars: Episode 1, than it is that the movie is based on his presidency...more likely it's neither. So apparently RL events and fiction can have strong correlations without either being based on the other...Who'd 'a thunk huh?:p

Well, no. George Lucas can see the future, 'sall.

That show is really not worth taking seriously in any context.

Well, no. George Lucas can see the future, 'sall.

Lucas is also right to see the future

See, I have proof!

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061006-7921.html

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/Avatar_world_map.jpg/250px-Avatar_world_map.jpg

Take a good look at that map. LOOK!

Now, I know things aren't nearly the size they are in real-life, but the positions of two important "nations" are the same.

The Air Nomad Nation (the largest one) and the Fire Nation (the red one) are the ones I'm talking about.

The Fire Nation invaded the Air Nomad Nation, correct?

Nomads virtually exist only in Asia, correct? The Middle East?

All the nations are preindustrial EXCEPT for the Fire Nation, correct (got this from wikipedia)?

So, doesn't this show you something?

United States of America - Industrialized nation, powerful, invaded the Middle East and completely destroyed it.

Middle East - Full of nomads, spiritual, invaded by America and is destroyed (or in the process of being destroyed).

Fire Nation - Industrialized nation, powerful, invaded the Air Nomad Nation and completely destroyed it.

Air Nomad Nation - Full of nomads, spiritual, invaded by the Fire Nation and is destroyed (or in the process of being destroyed).

Now, a "savior" from the Air Nomad Nation (the Avatar) has arisen to destroy the Fire Nation.

Now, a "savior" from the Middle East (Saudi Arabia) has arisen to destroy America.

Note that the Fire Nation has the largest Navy in the Avatar world.

Note that America has the largest Navy in the real world.

Note that the Fire Nation is the Superpower in this show.

Note that America is a Superpower in the real world.

Also note how the Fire Nation was peaceful until it saw it's opportunity to attack and get richer (so to say). Also note how the Fire Nation and the Air Nomad Nation are in the same spots as North America (home of America) and Asia (home of a portion of the Middle East). The editors just changed the sizes of the nations just to hide one fact:

Avatar: The Last Airbender is anti-American.

Fuck off, you stupid troll. It's a good show. So?

Fuck off, you stupid troll. It's a good show. So?

Flaming doesn't help your cause.

Damn if you aren't reading WAY to much into this. It's more likely that when they were drawing the map, they stuck with landmasses (Intentioally or otherwise) that existed.

Avatar is anti-american?

Wow. Somebody has too much free time.

Did you miss the heavy Asian theme.

I like the show myself. I liked the tribute they for Mako. Uncle Iro was a great character to end your life doing. Too bad he didn't live till it was done.

Anyways. The producers are Americans. I guess they are liberals right?

Really? I tend to think of the Mongolians first.
AFAIK the US hasn't invaded Mongolia, so I guess this makes your highly convoluted premise erroneous.

Word of advice: Stop listening to what the gnome who lives inside your toaster tells you. He ain't nufink but trouble.

I think of Mongolia as well. But I can see what he is saying about the map layout. That is if he's saying the red land on the left side is the Americas and the yellow on right side is Europe and Asia.. and I guess that would mean the light blue one at the bottom is Australia. Oh nvm.. there is another light blue one up top.. they are the poles.

LOL! I never thought of it that way :D

So much anti-Americanism being driven into our minds. Which, can help us, right?
Oh in terms of anti-American and anti-Bush you people only have the tip of the iceburg. When I was at a friend's house, her little brother was watching an episode of Kids Next Door that was about a school election. The good guy had thought he had won but then the election had to be decided by a "kid court" which the bad guys controlled. So the good guy lost the election and had to go to detention. While the bad guys were in power they waged preemptive wars against the "first graders" (I think this was a year ago but I know they waged a preemptive war on someone) because they thought that group was "dangerous.

So it continued for the first half of the show but the analogy broke apart by the second.

There are other kids shows that have simaler themes (the "Pixies" in the Fairly Oddparents represent Corporate America for example so whenever they show up there are always anti-Bush jokes) but that one was the most out front about it.

Fuck off, you stupid troll. It's a good show. So?

I'm not gonna flame you back. 3 words: Read. My. Sig.

Like someone else said, this thread wasn't meant to have an in-depth serious discussion; but it looks like that's what it turned out to be.

Oh in terms of anti-American and anti-Bush you people only have the tip of the iceburg. When I was at a friend's house, her little brother was watching an episode of Kids Next Door that was about a school election. The good guy had thought he had won but then the election had to be decided by a "kid court" which the bad guys controlled. So the good guy lost the election and had to go to detention. While the bad guys were in power they waged preemptive wars against the "first graders" (I think this was a year ago but I know they waged a preemptive war on someone) because they thought that group was "dangerous.

So it continued for the first half of the show but the analogy broke apart by the second.

There are other kids shows that have simaler themes (the "Pixies" in the Fairly Oddparents represent Corporate America for example so whenever they show up there are always anti-Bush jokes) but that one was the most out front about it.


I didn't notice that in that episode...

Fuck off, you stupid troll. It's a good show. So?

...no it isn't. I thought you had better taste than that.

I didn't notice that in that episode...
You watch Kids Next Door? Actually you're right about the preemptive war part, it was a long time ago and I barely remember anything but I think they were only planning a war but they didn't actually fight one. *shrugs* But I know the first part was a complete spoof on the 2000 election.

Fuck off, you stupid troll. It's a good show. So?

Americans should stick to making crappy American cartoons, not trying to imitate anime and failing horribly. In conclusion imitation anime is horrible, and this thread is really weird.

I want him to read the Qur'an quote.

Also, I used to watch KND. Used to as in when the only things on TV were Soap Operas, Sitcoms, "That's So Raven", "Spongebob", and "Wings of the Luftwaffe".

And just when I was starting to not hate all of you, someone comes up with this.

And just when I was starting to not hate all of you, someone comes up with this.

Aren't you generalising a bit?

Aren't you generalising a bit?

No.

No.

Racist.

Racist.

Since when was NSG poster a race?

Since when was NSG poster a race?

I think it was around 2003 AD...

Racist.

lol

I think, and this is only a thought, that you are looking too much into this.

I agree completely.

I think your assigning meanings that dont exist.

For example, the Middle East is neither being destroyed, nor already destroyed.

Nor are nomadic people indigenous to a single continent.
Every continent that has people on it, has nomads.

I'm not gonna flame you back. 3 words: Read. My. Sig.

Like someone else said, this thread wasn't meant to have an in-depth serious discussion; but it looks like that's what it turned out to be.

Sorry, Icovir.

(Window breaks as Johnny defenestrates himself [throws himself out of said window])

...no it isn't. I thought you had better taste than that.

Well, it isn't the best show of all time. That honor goes to Naruto. But it's funny enough, and the fight scenes are OK. I watch when there's nothing else on, but I'm not a rabid Avatar fan.

Americans should stick to making crappy American cartoons, not trying to imitate anime and failing horribly. In conclusion imitation anime is horrible, and this thread is really weird.

Imitation anime isn't as good as the original, but compared to the usual American shit (I should know) it's a pretty decent show. Not up there with Japanese anime, but it reminds me of a good-quality dub, like Patlabor. (anime nerdiness :))
i disagree.

its just a joke.

You talking about Avatar or this thread. This thread is obviously a joke.

Fuck off, you stupid troll. It's a good show. So?
i disagree.

its just a joke.

I think, and this is only a thought, that you are looking too much into this.

I totally agree. I see nothing.

i think xmen is anti-bush. think about it.