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I apologize for that title but a church group is claiming just that!

Some of you might have saw a thread I made the other day about a terrible school bus crash that happened here in Huntsville Alabama. Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America. link (http://www.waaytv.com/cgi-bin/shownews.cgi?id=3205)
Yes, this is the same group that shows up at funerals of our soldiers that were killed in the Iraqi war.
I mean...this is just sick. Imagine losing a little girl in such a horrible way and a group from a church says "You had that coming to you" WTF is wrong with some people???!!! :(

I didn't click on the link, but let me guess. The Good Rev. Phelps is at it again?

EDIT: Damn, I'm good.

I didn't click on the link, but let me guess. The Good Rev. Phelps is at it again?

EDIT: Damn, I'm good.

Aye

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Yay! To answer the OP, because they're morons.

I apologize for that title but a church group is claiming just that!

Some of you might have saw a thread I made the other day about a terrible school bus crash that happened here in Huntsville Alabama. Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America. link (http://www.waaytv.com/cgi-bin/shownews.cgi?id=3205)
Yes, this is the same group that shows up at funerals of our soldiers that were killed in the Iraqi war.
I mean...this is just sick. Imagine losing a little girl in such a horrible way and a group from a church says "You had that coming to you" WTF is wrong with some people???!!! :(
Fred Phelps and his gang of worshippers essentially just do it for the attention they garner. They don't care about anything except being in the spotlight, judging by their actions.

Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America.

Blasphemy. Pure and simple. And utter ignorance. Plus bigotry of the worst kind.
This group just claims to be Christian, but looks like its members didn't understand anything about Jesus.

Sadly, to anyone who believes that capital-g God controls life and death, and that everyone has "a time" that He sets out, yes, God does, in fact, kill children.
However, that's not to say that good old Fred is not a dispicable human being. I'm not Christian, and I don't agree with about 90% of the Bible, but even I agree that people like Fred and Falwell are terrible representatives of their faith.

god does kill children. remember when killed all the new born egytians? for the jews?

god does kill children. remember when killed all the new born egytians? for the jews?

Wasn’t that the angel of death doing the dirty work? God/Godfather

Fred Phelps strikes again. As ever nobody is suprised in the slightest.

Yes, yes he does. He enjoys killing fluffy kittens & adorable puppies too.

The kind of anger that Phelps portrays against homosexuals goes far, far beyond even religious zealotism.
If you've ever seen him rail at a camera yelling "God Hates Fags!" or some other such moronacy, its pretty clear that there has to be a source for all that pure, holy hate.

I think Phelps is so deep in the closet, he's finding Christmas Presents from 1964.

This guy clearly wants a right good stuffing.

Where else could all that bitter hatred come from unless it was re-directed self-loathing, at secretly wanting his eighty year old can hammered?

Remember kids:

"Everytime a rainbow appears, God is having gay sex."

Remember kids:

"Everytime a rainbow appears, God is having gay sex."

QFT :D

QFT :D

goint to dutch gold and heineken debate? :)

Didn't god summon bears to devour a bunch of children who were mocking him in Ezekiel or Isiah?

No God doesn't kill children because he doesn't exist. However, if the Christian God did exist yes he would kill children and would be perfectly capable of doing what they said. That's what happens when humans design divinity. It is a mass of contradictions, threats and hopes and nothing that makes any sense. Certainly not in a god like being.

I apologize for that title but a church group is claiming just that!

Some of you might have saw a thread I made the other day about a terrible school bus crash that happened here in Huntsville Alabama. Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America. link (http://www.waaytv.com/cgi-bin/shownews.cgi?id=3205)
Yes, this is the same group that shows up at funerals of our soldiers that were killed in the Iraqi war.
I mean...this is just sick. Imagine losing a little girl in such a horrible way and a group from a church says "You had that coming to you" WTF is wrong with some people???!!! :(

God (being an imaginary being) doesn't kill children, but the idea that God exists certainly does. (Don't take me wrong please. I did NOT just say that all believers are killers. Far from it.)

The kind of anger that Phelps portrays against homosexuals goes far, far beyond even religious zealotism.
If you've ever seen him rail at a camera yelling "God Hates Fags!" or some other such moronacy, its pretty clear that there has to be a source for all that pure, holy hate.

I think Phelps is so deep in the closet, he's finding Christmas Presents from 1964.

This guy clearly wants a right good stuffing.

Where else could all that bitter hatred come from unless it was re-directed self-loathing, at secretly wanting his eighty year old can hammered?

Remember kids:

"Everytime a rainbow appears, God is having gay sex."

I couldn't agree more. I understand Mike Jones is in financial trouble and looking for work. Dan Savage has suggested donations be made to his pay pal account for his good work in outing Ted Haggard (http://www.avclub.com/content/node/55569). Maybe we should start a fund to help Fred get laid. It'd be good for both of them.

I apologize for that title but a church group is claiming just that!

Some of you might have saw a thread I made the other day about a terrible school bus crash that happened here in Huntsville Alabama. Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America. link (http://www.waaytv.com/cgi-bin/shownews.cgi?id=3205)
Yes, this is the same group that shows up at funerals of our soldiers that were killed in the Iraqi war.
I mean...this is just sick. Imagine losing a little girl in such a horrible way and a group from a church says "You had that coming to you" WTF is wrong with some people???!!! :(

I'm a christian,and that's sick.It really is.Personally I don't think people are punished at all until Judgement Day,and I certainly wouldn't want anyone coming to my funeral claiming I had it coming to me because people in my country choose to live a different way of life than me.

No God doesn't kill children because he doesn't exist. However, if the Christian God did exist yes he would kill children and would be perfectly capable of doing what they said. That's what happens when humans design divinity. It is a mass of contradictions, threats and hopes and nothing that makes any sense. Certainly not in a god like being.

Yes,the God I worship goes round butchering children because some people who I don't even know choose to be gay.And so they should,good for them.But don't claim the Lord slaughters innocent kids because some people choose a way of life.'Cos it isn't true.

most definetly.

If this is truly His universe, and everything which transpires is His Divine Will, then one must conclude that, yes, God kills little children.

If this is truly His universe, and everything which transpires is His Divine Will, then one must conclude that, yes, God kills little children.

Well..no,God doesn't.Often little children are killed in car crashes,can be accidental,can be diseases.The bus crash the OP talked about in Alabama was not God's fault,it was probably the drivers fault.He may not have been concentrating.The whole idea of free will is that God doesn't control our lives,unless you pray of course.So,in short,God doesn't kill kids,or anyone else for that matter.Everyone dies,and sometimes shit happens,but we can't just blame it all on God,because that doesn't quite work.

Didn't god summon bears to devour a bunch of children who were mocking him in Ezekiel or Isiah?

They were chucking stones at Elijah I think. Not perhaps worthy of being devoured by bears but chucking rocks at old folks ain't nice, y'know?

Well..no,God doesn't.Often little children are killed in car crashes,can be accidental,can be diseases.The bus crash the OP talked about in Alabama was not God's fault,it was probably the drivers fault.He may not have been concentrating.The whole idea of free will is that God doesn't control our lives,unless you pray of course.So,in short,God doesn't kill kids,or anyone else for that matter.Everyone dies,and sometimes shit happens,but we can't just blame it all on God,because that doesn't quite work.

Why doesn't it work? Because this "God" person is imaginary? Or what? Does "God" intercede, sometimes? If not, why pray? If it isn't God's universe, then why bother with God?

Why doesn't it work? Because this "God" person is imaginary? Or what? Does "God" intercede, sometimes? If not, why pray? If it isn't God's universe, then why bother with God?

God set the world up and has now left us to it. He still keeps an eye on it and left the Holy Spirit to lend a hand but he doesn't go around controlling everything you do.

God set the world up and has now left us to it. He still keeps an eye on it and left the Holy Spirit to lend a hand but he doesn't go around controlling everything you do.

"Holy Spirit," huh? We talking voudun? Or what? What's the mechanism here? Gut a chicken, give 10% to a church, how does one aquire Divine Intervention? Or is God fickle?

everybody know that to enlist the help of the holy spirit (of course during buissness hours) one must call different high priest of special cults and ask for an appointment, then pay the charing fee, and then fill out a form (in triplicates) assign a waiting period up to ten to fourteen days, and specify the time ofthe miracle, and perhaps then you will get help, if the holy spirit is not on strike.

I think god kills children. He's exsited since the dawn of time and he has to pass the time somehow.

I reckon he's done everything from flower arranging to feltching to fend off boredom, it's not like anyone can arrest him for it.

Of course God kills children. He's a mean son of a bitch. You'd murder your own children too if they were like us. He's probably wishing by now that he had used a condom.

In Soviet Russia, children kill God!

Of course God kills children. He's a mean son of a bitch. You'd murder your own children too if they were like us. He's probably wishing by now that he had used a condom.

That's possibly the funniest thing I've heard all week!

Of course God kills children. He's a mean son of a bitch. You'd murder your own children too if they were like us. He's probably wishing by now that he had used a condom.

good one, and oh so true.

I kill children, I love to see then die. I kill children, I love to see their mothers' cry. Crush 'em under my car, I like to hear them scream. Feed them poisoned candy, spoil their halloween.

"Everytime a rainbow appears, God is having gay sex." :p

must be that idiot fred phelps.

God didn't kill them as punishment! He did it as a mercy. Now, those children are in Heaven and not here on Earth listening to Fred Phelps. Lucky brats! :p

I didn't click on the link, but let me guess. The Good Rev. Phelps is at it again?

EDIT: Damn, I'm good.

We need to get up a group, go to Topeka, and protest Phelps and his ilk. Do it on a Sunday while they are having services. The group should include, but not be limited to, veterans, gays, lesbians, a bagpipe marching band, drum and bugle corps, and lots of backfiring motor vehicles. We could even do a 21-gun salute to the veterans and other dead using seven cannons. ....no live rounds….but…mistakes happen...:D

Fred Phelps is an attention-whore who does not know the first thing about being a Christian. My fervent desire and prayer is that he actually realizes what a piece of work he is and repents before meeting his maker.

Fred Phelps is an attention-whore who does not know the first thing about being a Christian. My fervent desire and prayer is that he actually realizes what a piece of work he is and repents before meeting his maker.

The only reason he's lived as long as he has is because even God doesn't want him around. :p

The only reason he's lived as long as he has is because even God doesn't want him around. :p

And Satan isn't ready to deal with his constant asking where all the gay people are. And begging to know where he's hiding them. And offering sexual favours to know where they are. Not to mention all that creepy staring at Him everytime He passes by Phelps.

i love phelps, i really do. i'm glad he exists and engages in all his wacky actions. i love him the way i loved g.g. allin, we need monsters and madmen and people who will say the crazy things. we all think extreme, crazy and just plain mean things from time to time, but we need mean spirited outcasts to actually say them. phelps understands christianity, he understands its dark side, everything he says is internallty consistant. he takes the means spirited vitriol that exists in many christian hearts and takes it to its logical conclusion, and that's why i love him.

Well..no,God doesn't.Often little children are killed in car crashes,can be accidental,can be diseases.The bus crash the OP talked about in Alabama was not God's fault,it was probably the drivers fault.He may not have been concentrating.The whole idea of free will is that God doesn't control our lives,unless you pray of course.So,in short,God doesn't kill kids,or anyone else for that matter.Everyone dies,and sometimes shit happens,but we can't just blame it all on God,because that doesn't quite work.

In the old testament God seems to do a fair amount of "smiting her" and "plaguing them".

Phelps is still a tit though.

Sadly, to anyone who believes that capital-g God controls life and death, and that everyone has "a time" that He sets out, yes, God does, in fact, kill children.
However, that's not to say that good old Fred is not a dispicable human being. I'm not Christian, and I don't agree with about 90% of the Bible, but even I agree that people like Fred and Falwell are terrible representatives of their faith.

So what's your generation and lineage? ;)

Fred Phelps is an attention-whore who does not know the first thing about being a Christian. My fervent desire and prayer is that he actually realizes what a piece of work he is and repents before meeting his maker.

I'd love to see the exchange between Phelps and St. Peter.
"I'm afraid you won't be getting in here Fred"
"What?! What the fuck is this, I've been persecuting gays for years! I want some damned recognition!"
"Oh Don't worry Fred, a good friend of mine has a very special place set out for you"
*Satan appears*
"So this is him? I thought he'd be taller. "
*St. Peter slips him a brown envelope*
"Yup. You know what to do"

Douchebags...

I wouldn't worry about them. Everyone knows that the Westboro Baptist Church is not to be taken seriously; they take every opportunity to do something inhuman and unchristian to garner publicity.

All this does for them is prove even more that they are bereft of human souls.

yes god kills children
god kills everyone

negligent homicide.

he created life and death. its all ultimatly on his shoulders.

negligent homicide.

he created life and death. its all ultimatly on his shoulders.

Unless you consider death to be a necessary thing; in that case, the creation of death would be an incredible act of justice.

Unless you consider death to be a necessary thing; in that case, the creation of death would be an incredible act of justice.

i do consider death to be a necessary thing

within the world as it is created

i dont think of it as a matter of justice though.

its still god's design and god's ultimate responsibility.

not in the specific. god didnt make the bus crash in order to punish someone. he just left "death" lying around knowing that sooner or later every last one of us will succumb to it.

To answer the OP, because they're morons.

Thats giving them too much credit.

Phelps is a lunatic, plain and simple.
He and his gang of gay-haters are disgusting.
They can protest all things homo all they want,
but at a school girl's funeral? Thats just sick.

Phelps is a lunatic, plain and simple.
He and his gang of gay-haters are disgusting.
They can protest all things homo all they want,
but at a school girl's funeral? Thats just sick.

for all his extreme hatred and disgusting methods, phleps is an amazing force for good in our society.

people who would never work with each other and who never agree on anything unite in their revulsion of phelps. they meet each other and get to know and in at least a small way respect each other as they fight to silence this bigot and his family. they join together to protect the families of dead service men and women from the westboro protests, they join together to make anti-westboro protests when they show up at universities. its a rare chance for people of differing opinions to work together for a change.

Phelps is a lunatic, plain and simple.
He and his gang of gay-haters are disgusting.
They can protest all things homo all they want,
but at a school girl's funeral? Thats just sick.
well, thats because he blames every bad thing on the fact that there are homosexuals in this world.

UPDATE:
Well the good news is that their permit stipulates they must stay 2 blocks away from the funeral home and a local motorcycle organization (The Patriot Guard Riders) are going to be standing in a position to block their view from the funeral home so those at the funeral home might never even see their signs. Also it looks like the local media is not going to acknowlage their presence while they are in our fair city.

Okay! I feel a little better now! :)

I apologize for that title but a church group is claiming just that!

Some of you might have saw a thread I made the other day about a terrible school bus crash that happened here in Huntsville Alabama. Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America. link (http://www.waaytv.com/cgi-bin/shownews.cgi?id=3205)
Yes, this is the same group that shows up at funerals of our soldiers that were killed in the Iraqi war.
I mean...this is just sick. Imagine losing a little girl in such a horrible way and a group from a church says "You had that coming to you" WTF is wrong with some people???!!! :(

Rev. Phelps really is testing my patience and tolerance for Idiots and Morons.

i do consider death to be a necessary thing
within the world as it is created

i dont think of it as a matter of justice though.

its still god's design and god's ultimate responsibility.

It is. I imagine death has a purpose both in this world and in the context of God's creation; of course, if you follow the Biblical account death is a punishment for man's actions in the Garden

But in some ways, death is also a good thing. It provides relief from this life, from the cares and worries of our world, and gives promise of something different or better after it, either through some form of afterlife, reincarnation, or simply oblivion. I believe the first or second option, or some variant on them, is more likely than the last but who knows? Nobody who has died has returned (other than primarily Jesus or Lazarus if you're Christian) so we can't know until it's our time.

not in the specific. god didnt make the bus crash in order to punish someone. he just left "death" lying around knowing that sooner or later every last one of us will succumb to it.

That's correct. We will all die, but when it happens is a combination of chance (at least as it appears to us) and the decisions we make.

I apologize for that title but a church group is claiming just that!

Some of you might have saw a thread I made the other day about a terrible school bus crash that happened here in Huntsville Alabama. Well a church group from Topeka Kansas is planning a protest during the funeral of one of the little girls that was killed, claiming that God is punishing us all because there is homosexuality in America. link (http://www.waaytv.com/cgi-bin/shownews.cgi?id=3205)
Yes, this is the same group that shows up at funerals of our soldiers that were killed in the Iraqi war.
I mean...this is just sick. Imagine losing a little girl in such a horrible way and a group from a church says "You had that coming to you" WTF is wrong with some people???!!! :(

If I see them at a funeral doing that... :sniper:


What kind of... Who would do such a thing?

(I know who did it; Phelps, of course.

But I mean, how messed up can you be?)

Folks, if God is in on this, who are we to say he is being cruel. In the bible, it says that God works in mysterious ways. We can't decide if this is just chance or an act of God, because there is no evidence of God in a physical manner. I don't condone these ppl 4 saying this, but I don't condemn them either.

If God did do this, I don't see what it has to do with homosexuals.
God doesn't work in that kind of way, if he does at all. I doubt God would be that stupid, because he is God.

Fred Phelps is not a Christian. He focuses on the old testament .. not Jesus ..or Jesus' teachings. He is a mean spirited wack job that uses religion as a mount for his hate. Seriously, I have read up on him and his past and I believe the man is insane or just down right evil. He will probably live 30 more years simply because he is so vile. My opinion.

As for if God kills children ... well not the way this nut is saying it. I do believe the Lord has taken and will continue to take people, and some are and will be children.

The Westboro Batshit Church has decided to protest at the funeral of a schoolgirl killed in a bus accident. Yep. It seems the gays are somehow responsible and her family must pay the price by listening to the God Hates Fags fuckheads interfere in their mourning.

Say, why isn't every single meeting of the Westboro Batshit Church protested? How about organizing protesters to follow the members of the church around and protest at their homes and their jobs and the businesses that they patronize? After all, isn't it our right as Americans to protest?

http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5721134

That sounds like a perfect idea.

There was already a thread on this somewhere. . .

I think you were beaten to this one DCD, but no matter.

And I'd love to follow around the WB protesters and protest everything they do. Pity I live on the wrong side of the Atlantic.





Oh wait, that's a good things.

If god is killing children because america is not organising an annual gayHunt then god is indeed stupid. wont it be easier to just kill the gays?(Not that im saying they should die)

Oh i just love being an atheist, religion really is annoying

If this is truly His universe, and everything which transpires is His Divine Will, then one must conclude that, yes, God kills little children.

Then God can go to Hell for all I care. If a bunch of little kids that I know all die in some random freak accident and it's God's fault, then I'm not "fearing" God.

Though from what I understand, killing innocent children for homosexuality in the country is going a bit too far, in my opinion.

We need to get up a group, go to Topeka, and protest Phelps and his ilk. Do it on a Sunday while they are having services. The group should include, but not be limited to, veterans, gays, lesbians, a bagpipe marching band, drum and bugle corps, and lots of backfiring motor vehicles. We could even do a 21-gun salute to the veterans and other dead using seven cannons. ....no live rounds….but…mistakes happen...:D

I'd go. :)

Thats giving them too much credit.

LOL. Benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, but god kills everyone. Then he tortures a lot of him. Yeah, that's right. In Texas, God would be injected in a lethal fashion.

The Westboro Batshit Church has decided to protest at the funeral of a schoolgirl killed in a bus accident. Yep. It seems the gays are somehow responsible and her family must pay the price by listening to the God Hates Fags fuckheads interfere in their mourning.

Say, why isn't every single meeting of the Westboro Batshit Church protested? How about organizing protesters to follow the members of the church around and protest at their homes and their jobs and the businesses that they patronize? After all, isn't it our right as Americans to protest?

http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=5721134

i think they all live is some semicommunal compound owned by the phelps family. if you protest them be very careful these guys live to sue, infact that seems to be an important part of their strategy... they provoke then sue anyone who reacts to their provocation, plus the city where the incident occurred. a bunch of them are lawyers and its seems to be the only type of law they practice.

i think they all live is some semicommunal compound owned by the phelps family. if you protest them be very careful these guys live to sue, infact that seems to be an important part of their strategy... they provoke then sue anyone who reacts to their provocation, plus the city where the incident occurred. a bunch of them are lawyers and its seems to be the only type of law they practice.

True, but if I can use my 15 minutes of fame to poop on Fred Phelps' chest, then I'd be happy.