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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6173744.stm

Thoughts?

Thoughts?

They should wear condoms.

It's ironic that the same pro-life crowd would oppose increased foreign aid to save infant human lives.

Oh I know, it's purely because they are nig...*people of African ethnicitiy*.

Oh I know, it's purely because they are nig...*people of African ethnicitiy*.

I think it's less about that and more about that "well, that's over there and doesn't effect me."

The richer nations just don't seem to care unfortunately.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3176982.stm

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note: it's old news, but still distressing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3176982.stm

:headbang:

note: it's old news, but still distressing.

They lies! :eek:

I think it's less about that and more about that "well, that's over there and doesn't effect me."

Yup, its the damn monkeysphere.

Yep, it's always the idiots who promote this crap. No condoms in Africa, because everyone knows latex has little holes in it so HIV can slip thorugh and the more condoms, the more AIDS patients. No condoms in the USA either, because teens should have learned proper body-shame in seventh grade. :rolleyes:

First off, I know more about sex than the pro-abstinence ed fundies, and I'm fourteen years old... and still a virgin who has had few boyfriends.

Second, Christians do not own the moral definition of every damn concept on the damn planet. They do not own the concept of sex, they do not own the concept of marriage, they do not own the concept of maturity. The definition on human nature is not exclusively decided by Christians (or Jews or Muslims or Buddhists or Hindus or Scientologists or atheists or agnostics or believers of teh Bogeyman).

Third, I really, really do wish that third-world countries liek the USA would actually help rather than leave Baptist churches to educate ANYONE about sex. My four-year-old nephew could do a better job.

EDIT: I was reading a different article, sorry. :( But I'm keeping this up here.

Oh they'll care when thier so called 1st world nation collapses into poverty and war (and it will, it happens to all nations at some point). And then they'll beg for aid and all the shit they never did for anyone else. They will receive nothing and deserve nothing.

Proof that sex education cannot stop at abstinence.

good to see that abstinence only sex education works so well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3176982.stm

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note: it's old news, but still distressing.

Yeah, old news, distressing, and one really compelling reason for me to denounce the Catholic religion as espoused by the Vatican as truly evil. The only positive thing about it is that eventually all the Catholics will die from AIDS and we won't be bothered with their tripe any longer. It's become another Jim Jones/Hale-Bopp-like cult.

If you're a practicing Catholic, this should be very clear evidence that your papacy cares nothing for you or those you care about. I'm not suggesting conversion, but you should really take a good, hard look at anything the Vatican says and attempt to understand the political motivations behind it and how they might be counter to your own interests, like living.

Yeah, old news, distressing, and one really compelling reason for me to denounce the Catholic religion as espoused by the Vatican as truly evil. The only positive thing about it is that eventually all the Catholics will die from AIDS and we won't be bothered with their tripe any longer. It's become another Jim Jones/Hale-Bopp-like cult.

If you're a practicing Catholic, this should be very clear evidence that your papacy cares nothing for you or those you care about. I'm not suggesting conversion, but you should really take a good, hard look at anything the Vatican says and attempt to understand the political motivations behind it and how they might be counter to your own interests, like living.

I was never Catholic, but I was Protestant for a while. Then I figured if the Christian God really approves of this bull crap, I don't want any part of him.

It's one of the many reasons that I am now maltheist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6173744.stm

Thoughts?

Of course, I should get back to the OP.

I agree, it is very sad. I can't even imagine the anguish of a nation that loses babies at such an alarming rate, and one of the things I am truly thankful for is that I don't live in such a place. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the process of making available the medicines necessary to stop the tragedy to be much help. My heart goes out to the victims of this tragedy, and if someone has a real suggestion that is more productive than simply throwing large amounts of money at the problem with no planning or accountability, then I would do what I could to support it.

Oh they'll care when thier so called 1st world nation collapses into poverty and war (and it will, it happens to all nations at some point). And then they'll beg for aid and all the shit they never did for anyone else. They will receive nothing and deserve nothing.

Well, you're obviously not talking about America:

Net ODA in 2005 as US dollar amounts (millions) Country Aid amount by dollars
Source: Aid flows top USD 100 billion in 2005, OECD, April 2006 (preliminary data)

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USA 27,457
Japan 13,101
UK 10,754
France 10,059
Germany 9,915
Netherlands 5,131
Italy 5,053
Canada 3,731
Sweden 3,280
Spain 3,123
Norway 2,775
Denmark 2,107
Belgium 1,975
Switzerland 1,771
Australia 1,666
Austria 1,552
Finland 897
Ireland 692
Greece 535
Portugal 367
New Zealand 274
Luxembourg 264

Admittedly, US government foreign aid is among the lowest per capita. But I think that the raw dollars speak for themselves.

The richer nations just don't seem to care unfortunately.

Well, considering all the foreign aid we've poured into the continent, and the dismal results, that's understandable. Sadly, most African governments are rampantly corrupt. Most of the money winds up in Swiss bank accounts.

Well, considering all the foreign aid we've poured into the continent, and the dismal results, that's understandable. Sadly, most African governments are rampantly corrupt. Most of the money winds up in Swiss bank accounts.

And the first-world countries are rampantly bureaucratic and corrupt. :(

And the first-world countries are rampantly bureaucratic and corrupt. :(

True, but you don't see our leaders squirreling away our treasures in overseas bank accounts and building themselves lots of palaces.

True, but you don't see our leaders squirreling away our treasures in overseas bank accounts and building themselves lots of palaces.

At least, not that we know of...

At least, not that we know of...

True. ;)

At least, not that we know of...

Arg, beaten to it.