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Most Overrated Film

Mr Poll
23-11-2006, 04:35
In your humble, Generalite opinion, what is the most overrated film of all time?
Pledgeria
23-11-2006, 04:38
In your humble, Generalite opinion, what is the most overrated film of all time?

Citizen Kane, for starters.
IL Ruffino
23-11-2006, 04:40
Starwars, Jack Black movies, Indiana Jones, James Bond
Congo--Kinshasa
23-11-2006, 04:41
Annie Hall.
Utracia
23-11-2006, 04:42
DaVinci Code for starters. Also the English Patient.
New Granada
23-11-2006, 04:49
"equilibrium" "donnie darko" (neither of which are actually well-rated, by anyone, but both of which have a 'no brain' cult following.
Bolol
23-11-2006, 05:23
Napoleon...fucking...Dynamite...
Pledgeria
23-11-2006, 05:24
Napoleon...fucking...Dynamite...

qft
MeansToAnEnd
23-11-2006, 05:29
Citizen Kane, for starters.

I never really understood how people could enjoy that film so much. It might be good in lieu of a sleeping pill, but it's not good for much else.
Pledgeria
23-11-2006, 05:34
I never really understood how people could enjoy that film so much. It might be good in lieu of a sleeping pill, but it's not good for much else.

The copy I was given is good for a coaster. :) LOL. People know the great actor that was Orson Welles and attrributed more to the simplicity of it all than was actually there.

It'd be like calling Stealth one of the greatest films of all time based on Jamie Foxx's outstanding performance in Ray.
Kanabia
23-11-2006, 05:35
Fight Club and Saving Private Ryan.
Bolol
23-11-2006, 05:37
qft

Oh, and I forgot...anything by Tim Burton. I swear if I hear one more fangirl rant on about "Jack the Pumpkin King! LOL! ROFLCOPTER!"...I will bite someone...
New Xero Seven
23-11-2006, 05:38
The Harry Potter series.
Bolol
23-11-2006, 05:40
The Harry Potter series.

Yeah, I forgot that one too...
Pledgeria
23-11-2006, 05:40
Oh, and I forgot...anything by Tim Burton. I swear if I hear one more fangirl rant on about "Jack the Pumpkin King! LOL! ROFLCOPTER!"...I will bite someone...

But Batman was teh sh17x0r0r!!!!11!!!shift!!eleven :D
New Xero Seven
23-11-2006, 05:44
But Batman was teh sh17x0r0r!!!!11!!!shift!!eleven :D

Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were the crappy ones of the series.
Bolol
23-11-2006, 05:45
But Batman was teh sh17x0r0r!!!!11!!!shift!!eleven :D

*Punch'd*
Pledgeria
23-11-2006, 05:48
*Punch'd*

T3h ow! :(
Wilgrove
23-11-2006, 05:49
Napoleon Dynamite, Harry Potter series, Star Wars series, Days of Thunder.
Neo Puddin
23-11-2006, 05:51
You know, I hate to say it because I'm a HUGE classic horror film fan... but the original 'Dracula', with Bela Lugosi? It's almost impossible to watch with a straight face..... Of all the Universal horror films that get rave reviews, it is by far highly over rated.
The Black Forrest
23-11-2006, 05:52
Titanic!
Brigligate
23-11-2006, 05:53
Crash, and Brokeback Mountain... Dumbass movies if i've ever seen one
Zarathoft
23-11-2006, 05:54
Oh, and I forgot...anything by Tim Burton. I swear if I hear one more fangirl rant on about "Jack the Pumpkin King! LOL! ROFLCOPTER!"...I will bite someone...

I actually quite enjoy Nightmare Before Christmas. It's an amazing movie to watch high.
Pyotr
23-11-2006, 05:58
I actually quite enjoy Nightmare Before Christmas. It's an amazing movie to watch high.

Its alright, but Edward Scissorhands put me into a coma.
Laerod
23-11-2006, 05:59
Matrix trilogy. Great trilogy, but overrated.
Zarathoft
23-11-2006, 06:01
Its alright, but Edward Scissorhands put me into a coma.

Edward Scissorhands was freaky when I watched it, it made me really trippy everytime Edward was there.
Neo Undelia
23-11-2006, 06:03
Titanic. Honestly, how could it have possibly won so many Oscars?
Katurkalurkmurkastan
23-11-2006, 06:04
Titanic!
no way! propeller man was... was beautiful!

lotr 1. so horribly, horribly brutalised. and i don't know if king kong was rated at all, but if it was, then it was overrated.
Dobbsworld
23-11-2006, 06:06
The original (no, wait - make it the original and the re-make of) Solaris.

*snores*
Liberated New Ireland
23-11-2006, 06:08
LOTR series.

It's a crappy adaptation of a crappy book. :rolleyes:

I wish I could get back the hours of my life I spent watching and reading those things...
Barbaric Tribes
23-11-2006, 06:11
Crash, and Brokeback Mountain... Dumbass movies if i've ever seen one

psh, brokeback mountain was more of a pain in the ass.

hehehehehehe,:fluffle:
Colodia
23-11-2006, 06:15
I dunno about all time, but in my school it has to be Napoleon Dynamite. I mean really, let the damn fad die. It wasn't that funny a movie. It was a nice concept but the movie was just stupid.

I like random humor more than the next guy, but that wasn't humor at all!
Bolol
23-11-2006, 06:16
LOTR series.

It's a crappy adaptation of a crappy book. :rolleyes:

Hmm...I've heard people denounce the trilogy before, but never the book. Interesting.
Andaluciae
23-11-2006, 06:17
"equilibrium"

Absolutely overrated.
Wilgrove
23-11-2006, 06:20
Loose Change:2nd edition. I can't believe how many people actually eats that stuff up.

To see a rebuttal on "Loose Change: 2nd Edition" google "Screw Loose Change - Not Freakin' Again edition"
Liberated New Ireland
23-11-2006, 06:28
Hmm...I've heard people denounce the trilogy before, but never the book. Interesting.

I can't stand Tolkein's writing style. It is dry, and lacks emotion and excitement.

Furthermore, I dislike the elitism of the book -all the characters are heroes, there were almost no ordinary people- the depiction of the enemy -dark forces simply born to be slaughtered. I forget the exact words Tolkein used, but the way he described the Orcs was like they existed to be cannon fodder (which they were), and that they deserved it (which they may or may not).

In summation: it was very bleh.
Demented Hamsters
23-11-2006, 06:29
The copy I was given is good for a coaster. :) LOL. People know the great actor that was Orson Welles and attrributed more to the simplicity of it all than was actually there.

It'd be like calling Stealth one of the greatest films of all time based on Jamie Foxx's outstanding performance in Ray.
You're not watching the movie as it was.
At it's time it was one of the most innovative, influential and controversial movies made. Look at the tracking shots, the way the narrative was structured, the camera angles, the cinematograhpy, the use of soundtrack etc etc.
Compare these to the movies made before 'Kane and then after.
And the fact it was done by a 25 yr old (practically) unknown is phenomenal.

To compare it to movies after it is doing it a disservice. It's like watching Harold Lloyd and saying, "That's not particularly funny slapstick, Jackie Chan does it better". Or comparing the original King Kong to the new one and deciding the 1933 version is crap cause the 2005 one has much better special effects.


Citizen Kane is a great movie. Maybe not the best - but then how can you define 'best' in an area with so many different genres - but still great.
imo, Casablanca is better because everything works so wonderfully in that movie, but that's just mo.


As for over-rated movies:
'Lost in Translation' is just boring cliche after cliche tripe. I can only conclude that the massive media circle-jerk over that movie was due to Sofia's father still having plenty of influence in Hollywood.
'Sideways' was a movie whose hype ruined the movie for me. I sat down to watch expecting to be blown away by a witty, moving, original and compelling film. Best I can say about it is: It was ok.
Titanic was utter shite.
Anything by M. Night Shyamalan is utter shite. And yes, I am including 'Sixth Sense' here. The "amazing OMG! you'll-never-get-it" plot-twist at the end was so painfully apparent within the opening 1/2 hour I really did lose a lot of faith in humanity and the general populace's intelligence levels. And now, because of this, we have to put up with a MNS movie every couple of years, each one with it's very own "amazing OMG! you'll-never-get-it" plot-twist at the end. yay.
Dwarfstein
23-11-2006, 06:31
days of thunder and the matrix trilogy arent overrated, everyone thinks they are shit, and they are. (except the first matrix which just tries too hard).

Theres been too many ace movies dissed already here, but I think the original Italian Job is overrated. so there.
Neo Undelia
23-11-2006, 06:35
Furthermore, I dislike the elitism of the book -all the characters are heroes, there were almost no ordinary people-
The Hobbits are ordinary people.
Demented Hamsters
23-11-2006, 06:40
I can't stand Tolkein's writing style. It is dry, and lacks emotion and excitement.

Furthermore, I dislike the elitism of the book -all the characters are heroes, there were almost no ordinary people- the depiction of the enemy -dark forces simply born to be slaughtered.

That's not entirely true. The person who saves everyone in the end is really Samwise more than any of the great heroes.
It was Samwise who sneaks into the guard tower and rescues Frodo and it was Samwise who carries Frodo across the plains up to the volcano.
And Samwise was just a common farmer.

I felt, reading the last bit of the trilogy, that Tolkein was making a bit of a social commentary about the changing landscape of rural England. He was very much a traditionalist and hankered back to the times of traditional rural England. So by bascially having a peasant nobody who was pretty much ignored by all throughout the books pivotal in saving MiddleEarth, Tolkein was in effect saying, "These people are important. They are the backbone of our country and everything that made England great."


As for the writing: Again, like my previous post about movies, you shouldn't be comparing it to later fantasy novels. It pretty much (just ignore Beowulf here, ok?) started the whole genre.
Wilgrove
23-11-2006, 06:41
days of thunder and the matrix trilogy arent overrated, everyone thinks they are shit, and they are. (except the first matrix which just tries too hard).

Theres been too many ace movies dissed already here, but I think the original Italian Job is overrated. so there.

Actually I thought the first Matrix ruled.
Andaluciae
23-11-2006, 06:42
The original (no, wait - make it the original and the re-make of) Solaris.

*snores*
Russian films seem to have this problem with being slow, boring and loved by every art critic in the world.
Dobbsworld
23-11-2006, 06:43
Actually I thought the first Matrix ruled.

It did. It still does. I choose to simply ignore the existence of the other two.
Andaluciae
23-11-2006, 06:43
The Hobbits are ordinary people.

In fact, if I recall correctly, that was one of the big points of the book. All the might of the elites was incapable of doing anything but stalling, but the most normal, average and unexciting folks were the one's who were able to win it out.
Demented Hamsters
23-11-2006, 06:45
Theres been too many ace movies dissed already here, but I think the original Italian Job is overrated. so there.
Agree with you there. I finally got to watch a couple of years ago and was like, 'eh. That's it?"
Caine is brilliant, as always. But the whole movie suffered from the usual British disease of notenoughmoneyitis. So it just felt like it could have been a great movie.
One thing I liked (liked as in a social history type of way) was seeing how the movie lionised the criminals. Funny how much the Brits loved their 'cheeky cockney' criminal scum back in the 60s and early 70s.

Ending was awesome though.
Wilgrove
23-11-2006, 06:45
It did. It still does. I choose to simply ignore the existence of the other two.

Yea, the producers really should've left it at 1.
IDF
23-11-2006, 06:47
. Also the English Patient.

Elaine: I HATE IT!!

Crowd: Shush

Elaine: Oh shut up!

-----------------------
later on


Elaine: Oh come on! It was horrible. And those sex scenes, give me something I can use. Sex in a bath doesn't work!!!
Demented Hamsters
23-11-2006, 06:49
Elaine: Oh come on! It was horrible. And those sex scenes, give me something I can use. Sex in a bath doesn't work!!!
Elaine obviously has not done it in a bath with someone who's imaginative, flexible and fit.

Tell her to pm me and we might be able to work something out. ;)
IDF
23-11-2006, 06:49
My answers are Titanic (Leonardo DiCaprio sucks) and any Lord of the Rings Film.

Jackson is a horrible director. Those movies were all drawn out way too long. He needs to learn how to cut unneccesary scenes.
IDF
23-11-2006, 06:52
Elaine obviously has not done it in a bath with someone who's imaginative, flexible and fit.

Tell her to pm me and we might be able to work something out. ;)
little off topic, but that episode (called "The English Patient") is one of the funniest ever.

Between the Cubans who turn out to be Dominicans, George trying to steal Neil's gf, the 3 generations of a family who end up in the hospital, and Elaine watching the movie it was full of laughts.

The best of the above is the 3 generations. I died of laughter when in Florida Jerry's father yelled "Somebody get an ambulance."

Jerry responds "I think I saw one a couple of doors down." If you have ever been in Palm Beach County, you'd know how true that one is.
Xenophobialand
23-11-2006, 06:55
Tolkein reads as a MacGuffy reader largely because in his original job (a linguist), he had developed the view that you can't understand the formation of a language unless you also get a feel for the language speaker's history, culture, and the geography that surrounds him. Hence, he spends a lot of time talking about things like the outback Shire or the dense and closed off Fangorn in order to make sense of the bastardized Rohirrim and Elven that the inhabitants speak; the utter depravity of the Black speech of Mordor only makes sense when you consider the blasted terrain; etc. I will agree that a generation of post-modernists looked at LotR and ran with it, but if you understand what it was supposed to do and did, it's actually not all that bad nor can it really be overrated.

For my part, I'd say that the most overrated movies I've seen was Apocalypse Now, with The English Patient coming in close behind. I give Apocalypse Now the edge because while TEP had the Oscars, nobody cites it with the kind of breathless bewilderment that Apocalypse Now gets. The reason why I say it's overrated is because either I completely don't get it, or I do get it and am thoroughly underwhelmed: the river is a metaphor for the human psyche, and as you get farther and farther from civilization you get more and more bestial. Well I'll be damned. Somebody get me a chair, because I need to sit down to handle that kind of brain load.
Darknovae
23-11-2006, 06:58
Anything made by Disney and/or Pixar.

With the exception of Finding Nemo. It's the only G-rated movie worth watching. :)

I also have to say High School Musical. During the last few days of school last year they showed it... god that was horrible :headbang: High school is NOTHING liek that at all!

But wait, it's Disney... meh.
Lacadaemon
23-11-2006, 07:04
There's so many to choose from.

Taxi Driver springs to mind.
Poliwanacraca
23-11-2006, 07:08
In fact, if I recall correctly, that was one of the big points of the book. All the might of the elites was incapable of doing anything but stalling, but the most normal, average and unexciting folks were the one's who were able to win it out.

Indeed. I'm not sure how anyone could conclude that LOTR is "elitist," given that, in the War of the Ring, men are quite manifestly more effective than elves, hobbits are quite manifestly more effective than men, and, on top of that, an upper-middle and a lower class hobbit are quite manifestly more effective than hobbit nobility - yeah, Tolkien was really elitist. Sam Gamgee, possibly the most actively heroic character in the book, is a servant, for goodness sake. Yes, Tolkien has characters who are kings and princes; given that he explicitly stated that one of his main goals in creating Middle Earth was to make an original and entirely English mythology, this would seem unavoidable. I can think of no mythological traditions anywhere in the world that do not focus fairly significantly, if not entirely, on royalty and nobility. Tolkien's does so a great deal less than most. :p
Poliwanacraca
23-11-2006, 07:12
For my part, I'd say that the most overrated movies I've seen was Apocalypse Now, with The English Patient coming in close behind. I give Apocalypse Now the edge because while TEP had the Oscars, nobody cites it with the kind of breathless bewilderment that Apocalypse Now gets. The reason why I say it's overrated is because either I completely don't get it, or I do get it and am thoroughly underwhelmed: the river is a metaphor for the human psyche, and as you get farther and farther from civilization you get more and more bestial. Well I'll be damned. Somebody get me a chair, because I need to sit down to handle that kind of brain load.

This reminds me of a friend's description of "Apocalypse Now" - "It's Heart of Darkness, only less brilliant and more stupid." ;)
Ldm
23-11-2006, 07:15
without a doubt, hands down Carlito's Way. The editing was horribly and the use of voice overs is sure sign of a lack of a real screenplay, the story Koepp
wrote was very predictable. Also, in my opinion showing the end of a movie at the start is a bad idea, you watch the whole thing knowing what is going to happing . Moreover, they wasted Viggo Mortensen and Sean penn phoned this one in, he openly admits to taking the role just for the money (to make the The Crossing Guard). He receives prays for his transformation (and righly so) but his acting is sub par. I really think people like this movie because it was another gangster movie with Pacino, Directed by Brian De Palma, i sat watching thinking the whole time "this has been done before, many many times and better". I do not think it was a bad movie just highly over rated. I recommend reading the Edwin Torres novels, much better.
*also they (whoever made it) did a horribly job on the dvd
Cannot think of a name
23-11-2006, 07:27
Napoleon Dynamite, Harry Potter series, Star Wars series, Days of Thunder.
Who rates Days of Thunder well? I'm a racing fan and no racing fan I know even likes that movie...

You're not watching the movie as it was.
At it's time it was one of the most innovative, influential and controversial movies made. Look at the tracking shots, the way the narrative was structured, the camera angles, the cinematograhpy, the use of soundtrack etc etc.
Compare these to the movies made before 'Kane and then after.
And the fact it was done by a 25 yr old (practically) unknown is phenomenal.

To compare it to movies after it is doing it a disservice. It's like watching Harold Lloyd and saying, "That's not particularly funny slapstick, Jackie Chan does it better". Or comparing the original King Kong to the new one and deciding the 1933 version is crap cause the 2005 one has much better special effects.


Citizen Kane is a great movie. Maybe not the best - but then how can you define 'best' in an area with so many different genres - but still great.


Saved me the trouble (add deep focus and using every part of film to tell the story, and more...)
Good Lifes
23-11-2006, 07:28
"Chariots of Fire"---The absolute WORST movie ever to get Best Movie.
Andaluciae
23-11-2006, 07:32
Indeed. I'm not sure how anyone could conclude that LOTR is "elitist," given that, in the War of the Ring, men are quite manifestly more effective than elves, hobbits are quite manifestly more effective than men, and, on top of that, an upper-middle and a lower class hobbit are quite manifestly more effective than hobbit nobility - yeah, Tolkien was really elitist. Sam Gamgee, possibly the most actively heroic character in the book, is a servant, for goodness sake. Yes, Tolkien has characters who are kings and princes; given that he explicitly stated that one of his main goals in creating Middle Earth was to make an original and entirely English mythology, this would seem unavoidable. I can think of no mythological traditions anywhere in the world that do not focus fairly significantly, if not entirely, on royalty and nobility. Tolkien's does so a great deal less than most. :p

You said it perfectly.
Dragontide
23-11-2006, 08:44
Since I liked the original version of "War of the Worlds" I was excited about the remake when I heard about it, but when I saw it, I was reminded of how incredibly boring and untalented Tom Cruise is! With all the pre-release hype, it was the biggest letdown I have ever experienced.
Sarkhaan
23-11-2006, 09:01
Napoleon...fucking...Dynamite...

I dunno about all time, but in my school it has to be Napoleon Dynamite. I mean really, let the damn fad die. It wasn't that funny a movie. It was a nice concept but the movie was just stupid.

I like random humor more than the next guy, but that wasn't humor at all!

both qft.
Risottia
23-11-2006, 09:17
recent

Mediterraneo
anything by Von Trier and Wenders
Saving pvt.Ryan
Titanic
Star Wars ep.1,2,3,6
Lord of the Rings
Eyes wide shut
Pearl Harbour

older

Gone with the wind
Psycho
A clockwork orange
The wizard of Oz
Helioterra
23-11-2006, 09:43
Fight Club and Saving Private Ryan.

Agreed on Saving Private Ryan.
Helioterra
23-11-2006, 09:51
The original (no, wait - make it the original and the re-make of) Solaris.

*snores*

How dare you!!!!!!! Tarkovsky is God.
ok, I have to admit that he's also very very very boring if you're not prepared for it. Solaris is what cinema is all about.
Cromotar
23-11-2006, 10:03
Off the top of my head: Armageddon and Brokeback Mountain. Also both of the new Spiderman movies.
Kosirgistan
23-11-2006, 10:43
Lost in translation - hands down!!!!

Dont get me wrong it was not a bad movie by any means - but I take Jim Jarmusch over Sofia Coppola anytime.
Ifreann
23-11-2006, 10:56
Saving Private Ryan, the Harry Potter Series, Fight Club.
The Mindset
23-11-2006, 11:01
Hmm...I've heard people denounce the trilogy before, but never the book. Interesting.

The books are a hundred thousand times worse than the movies. Tolkien wrote with sand.
Gataway_Driver
23-11-2006, 11:05
Scarface, theres better gangster films around.

Borat will become overated, I can see it happening.
Unified Sith
23-11-2006, 11:06
The books are a hundred thousand times worse than the movies. Tolkien wrote with sand.

Oh come now, surely the ridiculous sales and countless thumbs up people grant the books deserves at least some literary recognition?

I myself loved the books.
The Mindset
23-11-2006, 11:08
Oh come now, surely the ridiculous sales and countless thumbs up people grant the books deserves at least some literary recognition?

I myself loved the books.

Sure. Just like the millions of sales of Britney Spears albums somehow "proves" she's talented. Tolkien was the driest, most shitty writer ever to become a best seller. His ideas were good, his writing was not. He said himself that the trilogy was simply an experiment for his constructed languages. He admitted he was not a writer by trade. Frankly, it shows.
Unified Sith
23-11-2006, 11:12
Sure. Just like the millions of sales of Britney Spears albums somehow "proves" she's talented. Tolkien was the driest, most shitty writer ever to become a best seller. His ideas were good, his writing was not. He said himself that the trilogy was simply an experiment for his constructed languages. He admitted he was not a writer by trade. Frankly, it shows.

Whether it was a stroke of luck or not, Tolkeins writing has struck a cord with millions of readers. The books have consistently won critical acclaim and continue to stand the test of time. Frankly I believe it shows that the books are rather good, if only by the sheer size of the fan following; before the movies.

Whether you would like to accept it or not, there are far more in favour of my perspective than your own. Personally, I feel this time the majority is correct.

But we are all entitled to our opinions.
The Mindset
23-11-2006, 11:13
Whether it was a stroke of luck or not, Tolkeins writing has struck a cord with millions of readers. The books have consistently won critical acclaim and continue to stand the test of time. Frankly I believe it shows that the books are rather good, if only by the sheer size of the fan following; before the movies.

Whether you would like to accept it or not, there are far more in favour of my perspective than your own. Personally, I feel this time the majority is correct.

But we are all entitled to our opinions.

Tolkien's ideas may have struck a chord. If his writing has, the person reading is retarded.
The Ninja Penguin
23-11-2006, 11:21
most overrated film of all time?

Citizen Kane [snore]
Boonytopia
23-11-2006, 11:25
Titanic. Lots of people thought it was fantastic, but I just thought it was an overlong, drawn out, schmaltzy piece of shit.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-11-2006, 13:23
I honestly cant imagine why anyone would vote for Titanic as being "The most over-rated of all time".

When you build a 300 million dollar floating set, and sink that bastard, thats not "over-rated".

Its just a turd movie.

Despite its Oscar wins, that movie is looked upon these days as the crappy film it is, but a few moments of decent special effects, and a nice look at Kate Winslets boobs.

Nor can I understand why anyone would choose "Apocalypse Now".

Some of the best performances on film.
Period.

Hell, in the Hotel scene when Martin Sheen breaks the mirror with his hand, moments before the camera rolled, his wife called him on the set in the Phillipines to divorce him.
Hes also having a heart attack on camera.
Coppola just went and rolled film during his breakdown.
Thats why that scene is so intense.

Say anything else you want to about that movie, no film with that kind of intensity can be remotely considered "most over-rated".


My pick?

"Gone With the Wind".
Boonytopia
23-11-2006, 13:41
I honestly cant imagine why anyone would vote for Titanic as being "The most over-rated of all time".

When you build a 300 million dollar floating set, and sink that bastard, thats not "over-rated".

Its just a turd movie.

Despite its Oscar wins, that movie is looked upon these days as the crappy film it is, but a few moments of decent special effects, and a nice look at Kate Winslets boobs.

*snip*

Because many people I know think it's a great film, even now. They genuinely believe it's a benchmark of cinema. That's why I think it's over-rated.
Jambomon
23-11-2006, 13:45
All Jack Black movies
The Davinci Code
Talledega Nights
Star Wars III
Curious Inquiry
23-11-2006, 14:18
Titanic!

I agree. In fact, realizing that it was just a silly love story pasted onto a historical tragedy made me realize how worthless Gone With the Wind was as well :(
I V Stalin
23-11-2006, 14:21
Apocalypse Now.

Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull.

There's one film I dislike more than AN, and that's Apocalypse Now Redux
Curious Inquiry
23-11-2006, 14:43
Apocalypse Now.

Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull.

There's one film I dislike more than AN, and that's Apocalypse Now Redux

Worth it for the helicopter attack to Ride of the Valkyries, tho ;)
Kryozerkia
23-11-2006, 14:49
The Exorcist - sah-nore!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
23-11-2006, 14:50
Fight Club and Saving Private Ryan.
:eek:
Wait, we actually agree in a movie thread?

Ladies and gentlemen, the world will end any minute now.
Kanabia
23-11-2006, 14:52
:eek:
Wait, we actually agree in a movie thread?

Ladies and gentlemen, the world will end any minute now.
I thought we'd already agreed on both of those a long time ago?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
23-11-2006, 15:06
Tolkien's ideas may have struck a chord. If his writing has, the person reading is retarded.
Yes, of course. We're so grateful you're talking to us anyway. :rolleyes:

anything by Von Trier
Oh boy, that reminds me: Dogville. I used to have a ten minute rant about that movie, you're lucky I've forgotten most of it by now.

I thought we'd already agreed on both of those a long time ago? We had? Well, that explains why the world is still there. :p
Swilatia
23-11-2006, 15:13
there are just so many overrated films...
Neu Yourke
23-11-2006, 15:27
Forrest Gump
The Imperiator
23-11-2006, 15:39
Boring, stupid movies only lauded due to political reasons:
Apocalypse Now
Syriana
The Day After Tomorrow


Boring, stupid movies only lauded due to "out there" thinking:
Altered States
2001: A Space Odessey


Boring, stupid movies only lauded due to special effects and imagery:
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
King Kong (2006)
Episode 1 - 3, especially Revenge of the Sith


Movies I can't even begin to guess why anyone overrates them:
Napolean Dynamite
Matrix: Reloaded
The Blaire Witch Project
I V Stalin
23-11-2006, 16:11
Worth it for the helicopter attack to Ride of the Valkyries, tho ;)
I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere if I want to watch that bit.
German Nightmare
23-11-2006, 16:28
Starwars, Jack Black movies, Indiana Jones, James Bond
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LOTR series.
It's a crappy adaptation of a crappy book. :rolleyes:
I wish I could get back the hours of my life I spent watching and reading those things...
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Apocalypse Now.

Dull, dull, dull, dull, dull.

There's one film I dislike more than AN, and that's Apocalypse Now Redux
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Boring, stupid movies only lauded due to political reasons:
Apocalypse Now
Syriana
The Day After Tomorrow


Boring, stupid movies only lauded due to "out there" thinking:
Altered States
2001: A Space Odessey


Boring, stupid movies only lauded due to special effects and imagery:
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
King Kong (2006)
Episode 1 - 3, especially Revenge of the Sith


Movies I can't even begin to guess why anyone overrates them:
Napolean Dynamite
Matrix: Reloaded
The Blaire Witch Project
I don't understand why you don't like the bolded ones.

I do know what you mean with the Blair Witch Project, though. Others have mentioned Titanic and The English Patient as well. Solid choices, too.

I'd like to throw The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy ad leones.
New Granada
23-11-2006, 19:40
Absolutely overrated.

I always have to return to what Elvis Mitchell wrote in the New York Times about "equilibrium" -

"a movie that could be stupider only if it were longer."
New Granada
23-11-2006, 19:43
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I don't understand why you don't like the bolded ones.

I do know what you mean with the Blair Witch Project, though. Others have mentioned Titanic and The English Patient as well. Solid choices, too.

I'd like to throw The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy ad leones.


"The day after tomorrow" was an extraordinarily stupid movie, I can't see why you'd have bolded it. Want some 'armageddon' and 'deep impact' to go along with your shit-move entree? Written by Art Bell for christsakes.
German Nightmare
23-11-2006, 19:53
"The day after tomorrow" was an extraordinarily stupid movie, I can't see why you'd have bolded it. Want some 'armageddon' and 'deep impact' to go along with your shit-move entree? Written by Art Bell for christsakes.
Both Armageddon and Deep Impact sucked big time. But I did like The Day After Tomorrow.
Snow Eaters
23-11-2006, 21:18
Both Armageddon and Deep Impact sucked big time. But I did like The Day After Tomorrow.

The Day After Tomorrow was worse than both of those movies together.
Horrid horrid movie.
Bad script, bad acting horrible science that derails the point it thought it was trying to make.

Man, I hate that movie.

Wolves that survive the diaster but won't eat any of the millions of bodies that must be around, oh no, they transform into ravenous demon wolves that track down our hero in New York and try to gobble him down.

Bah, so much wrong with that film, I don't how it could be "rated" in the first place in order for it to be "over-rated".
School Daze
23-11-2006, 22:03
Overrated movies:

The Wizard of Oz: Dorothy did like nothing for herself at all in that movie, things just happened to her it was pathetic. The only pivotal thing she did was make the witch melt and that was an accident.

The New Star Wars Movies: The Phantom Menace was childish and tiresome, Attack of the Clones was ok, Revenge of the Sith was boring because we already knew what was going to happen.

High School Musical: The stars of this movie are now on tour what's up with that?

The most overrated movie I've ever seen was this '60's movie called El Cid that I had to watch in Spanish class a couple years ago. The fight scenes were stupid, the romance was atrocious, and I could tell that all the North Africans were just white guys wearing brown paint. Plus the teacher had to stop the movie every 5 minutes because the boys would make catcalls every time Charlton Heston kissed the leading lady whose name I've forgotten and whose acting is forgotten.
Hallucinogenic Tonic
24-11-2006, 00:02
Napolean Dynamite
Gorias
24-11-2006, 00:03
taxi driver.
boring as hell, nothing is happening through the whole film and only a wee little fight scene at the end.

oh yeah star wars too.
UpwardThrust
24-11-2006, 00:04
Citizen Kane, for starters.

First reply is the correct one!

ROSEBUD!

ITS A FUCKING SLED!
UpwardThrust
24-11-2006, 00:07
Harry potter

I was surprisingly let down by the entire series (not that I read the books)

Harry I had expectations that we were going to see a developing powerfully brave sorcerer that used smarts, or talents, or wits or power to achieve great ends.

In the end we have a nice boy that is not specially brave or quick or powerfully or smart. He kind of just goes with the flow and half the work is done by his friends.

He was a let down for a main character.
Terrorist Cakes
24-11-2006, 00:49
DaVinci Code for starters. Also the English Patient.

NO! The English Patient is an amazingly poignant film. Read the book. Maybe then you'll get it.
The Mindset
24-11-2006, 01:08
Harry potter

I was surprisingly let down by the entire series (not that I read the books)

Harry I had expectations that we were going to see a developing powerfully brave sorcerer that used smarts, or talents, or wits or power to achieve great ends.

In the end we have a nice boy that is not specially brave or quick or powerfully or smart. He kind of just goes with the flow and half the work is done by his friends.

He was a let down for a main character.

You should've read the books then, shouldn't you've? Harry Potter was never written as a cheesy, cliché'd hero. He was always supposed to be a normal schoolkid in extraordinary situations. Why else do you think it's so popular with kids? They can relate to him.
Pure Metal
24-11-2006, 01:27
In your humble, Generalite opinion, what is the most overrated film of all time?

kill bill
New Granada
24-11-2006, 01:31
I'm not going out on much of a limb here, but it deserves saying that Citizen Kane is indeed one of the best films of all time.

Granted, it doesnt have any fight scenes, sex scenes, or special effects or whatever, but there is a lot more to serious film than that.
The Mindset
24-11-2006, 01:38
I'm not going out on much of a limb here, but it deserves saying that Citizen Kane is indeed one of the best films of all time.

Granted, it doesnt have any fight scenes, sex scenes, or special effects or whatever, but there is a lot more to serious film than that.

Any film that bores the pants off me, regardless of how "meaningful" it's supposed to be, is going to make me demand my money back.
Demented Hamsters
24-11-2006, 01:38
Scarface, theres better gangster films around.
The original one for a start.
New Granada
24-11-2006, 01:40
Any film that bores the pants off me, regardless of how "meaningful" it's supposed to be, is going to make me demand my money back.

Thats nice :rolleyes:
Liberated New Ireland
24-11-2006, 01:58
Any film that bores the pants off me, regardless of how "meaningful" it's supposed to be, is going to make me demand my money back.

Seriously.

It's a damn movie. If I was looking for intellectual stimulation, I'd read a book!

That's not to say I don't like intellectual movies. I just don't like very boring intellectual movies.
Harlesburg
24-11-2006, 10:54
Little Women, i was pretty much forced to watch it at the movies during the holidays when i was really young.
Egoidsuperego
24-11-2006, 11:21
Any of the new Star Wars movies, especially the first one with the annoying kid and who can forget that imbecile Ja Ja Binx -- whatever.
German Nightmare
24-11-2006, 13:24
The Day After Tomorrow was worse than both of those movies together.
Horrid horrid movie.
Bad script, bad acting horrible science that derails the point it thought it was trying to make.

Man, I hate that movie.

Wolves that survive the diaster but won't eat any of the millions of bodies that must be around, oh no, they transform into ravenous demon wolves that track down our hero in New York and try to gobble him down.

Bah, so much wrong with that film, I don't how it could be "rated" in the first place in order for it to be "over-rated".
I kinda liked it. :p
taxi driver.
boring as hell, nothing is happening through the whole film and only a wee little fight scene at the end.

oh yeah star wars too.
_____Really, now?
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NO! The English Patient is an amazingly poignant film. Read the book. Maybe then you'll get it.
That was boring as hell. I'd consider it a women's movie.
I'm not going out on much of a limb here, but it deserves saying that Citizen Kane is indeed one of the best films of all time.
Granted, it doesnt have any fight scenes, sex scenes, or special effects or whatever, but there is a lot more to serious film than that.
Exactly.
Pure Metal
24-11-2006, 13:33
I kinda liked it. :p


me too :P
Notaxia
24-11-2006, 13:41
A Beautiful Mind. God. I never hear the end of that movie! I think the critics have all reviewed it sixty-eleven times!
German Nightmare
24-11-2006, 13:47
A Beautiful Mind. God. I never hear the end of that movie! I think the critics have all reviewed it sixty-eleven times!
Huh. Another one I really enjoyed.
Peepelonia
24-11-2006, 14:03
House of flying daggers, or Gladiator. Both promiesd and just did not deliver.
German Nightmare
24-11-2006, 14:24
House of flying daggers, or Gladiator. Both promiesd and just did not deliver.
Maybe you need to lower your expectations? I enjoyed watching them both. Plus the soundtrack on Gladiator is great!
Next thing you'll say that Hero was bad, too.
Peepelonia
24-11-2006, 14:26
Seriously.

It's a damn movie. If I was looking for intellectual stimulation, I'd read a book!

That's not to say I don't like intellectual movies. I just don't like very boring intellectual movies.


Like all art it's 'horses for courses' Don't like overly intelectual movies, don't go wathc em.
Peepelonia
24-11-2006, 14:28
Maybe you need to lower your expectations? I enjoyed watching them both. Plus the soundtrack on Gladiator is great!
Next thing you'll say that Hero was bad, too.

Hehe like I just said horses for courses. I think the problem with them both for me. Was the amount of hype I got before hand, and the reality just not living up to that hype.


Unlike Itchi the killer, both the hype and the reality where good.
Peepelonia
24-11-2006, 14:31
Maybe you need to lower your expectations? I enjoyed watching them both. Plus the soundtrack on Gladiator is great!
Next thing you'll say that Hero was bad, too.

No no Hero was fantastic, I completly forgot the story the cinamtography was astounding, a more beutifull film I don't think I've ever seen.

Hehe It's a valid point you allued to though. I have some very snobby mates when it comes to films, who can't seem to grasp the concept of just disengaging the brain and watching the preety pictures, or mind blowing action, or whatever.

Like music I guess it depends on what mood you're in huh?
German Nightmare
24-11-2006, 14:35
Hehe like I just said horses for courses. I think the problem with them both for me. Was the amount of hype I got before hand, and the reality just not living up to that hype.

Unlike Itchi the killer, both the hype and the reality where good.
Very true indeed for many movies. Good movies almost need no advertisement. The crappy ones are in your face all the time.
German Nightmare
24-11-2006, 14:40
No no Hero was fantastic, I completly forgot the story the cinamtography was astounding, a more beutifull film I don't think I've ever seen.

Hehe It's a valid point you allued to though. I have some very snobby mates when it comes to films, who can't seem to grasp the concept of just disengaging the brain and watching the preety pictures, or mind blowing action, or whatever.

Like music I guess it depends on what mood you're in huh?
Yes, absolutely. I can agree with everything you've said there.

(I was even crazy enough to watch it again in Chinese - and all I can do is eat Chinese... The movie still worked, though, which is a sign for a good masterpiece.)
Snow Eaters
24-11-2006, 16:16
"Out of Africa"

Oscar winner, but I would rather chew glass than watch it again.
Beautiful cinematography with a quality cast and a solid director.

Except that the lead characters were vapid and less than pleasant and the plot trudged and plodded just begging the credits to roll and put it out of its misery.

A low point for Oscar's winners.
The Imperiator
25-11-2006, 14:28
:confused: :confused:

I don't understand why you don't like the bolded ones.Well, I labeled them as being boring and stupid to me. That's pretty much why I don't like them. Their popularity and the raving about them I had to listen to just made me hate them more. This was especially true for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon because I am a fan of kung fu films, and I found the ridiculous, self-indulgent symbolism-packed art fu I was presented with tiresome.

On a side note, I'd like to add this to the discussion of The Day After Tomorrow: (link (http://the-editing-room.com/?script=dayaftertomorrow))


taxi driver.
boring as hell, nothing is happening through the whole film and only a wee little fight scene at the end.How did I forget Taxi Driver? You summed up my feelings perfectly.
Wanderjar
25-11-2006, 15:14
In your humble, Generalite opinion, what is the most overrated film of all time?

Anchorman. God damn I hate that movie now.
The Black Forrest
25-11-2006, 17:31
First reply is the correct one!

ROSEBUD!

ITS A FUCKING SLED!

Nahh. Good movie.

Watch it with someone who hasn't seen it. When the line "Rosebud!" appears, tell the person "he's faking it" They will wait for him to pop out somewhere for the rest of the film! :D
The Black Forrest
25-11-2006, 17:33
Overrated movies:

The Wizard of Oz: Dorothy did like nothing for herself at all in that movie, things just happened to her it was pathetic. The only pivotal thing she did was make the witch melt and that was an accident.


You do realize it was made in the 1930s right?
I V Stalin
25-11-2006, 17:47
Anchorman. God damn I hate that movie now.
That was even rated? It's shit! How can anyone think it was any good?
Kanabia
25-11-2006, 17:53
kill bill

I agree with this one too.
Markreich
25-11-2006, 17:59
The Matrix.

Vapid and dull.
The Black Forrest
25-11-2006, 18:11
The Matrix.

Vapid and dull.

The first one I didn't mind.

The second one????

The third most definitely!
Markreich
25-11-2006, 18:12
The first one I didn't mind.

The second one????

The third most definitely!

I only saw the first on in the theatre. I was sooooooooooooooooo bored with the sophmore philosophy and the clear-as-glass plot.
Harlesburg
28-11-2006, 08:01
Titanic, Pearl Harbor or Cassablanca.
New Granada
28-11-2006, 08:16
Titanic, Pearl Harbor or Cassablanca.

Casablanca is a fantastic film. Pearls before swine.
Colerica
28-11-2006, 09:17
Fight Club
Donnie Darko
Fair Progress
28-11-2006, 09:31
Lord of the Rings and any movie with Jack Black or Chris Rock (except for Dogma). I agree on Donnie Darko and Kill Bill.
Seangoli
28-11-2006, 09:44
"equilibrium" "donnie darko" (neither of which are actually well-rated, by anyone, but both of which have a 'no brain' cult following.

Actually, those are two of my favorite movies. I love Equilibrium as a cross between 1984 and Brave New World meets kung-fu, however the end was rather disappointing. I'm not a fan of happy endings, especially when the overall message is none to happy. Had it gone with a different ending(Say, something along the lines of 1984 where nothing changes), it would have been much better, in my opinion. Donnie Darko I'm not a "fan-boy" of, but I do like the movie quite a bit, but meh. It is highly overrated.

As for most overrated...

Napolean Dynamite. Easily. The only really funny part in it is the "Time Machine" part. Other than that, it's a rather stupid and none-to-funny movie.
Seangoli
28-11-2006, 09:48
I agree with this one too.

Oye, the first kill bill is PAINFUL to watch. You are basically watching the same scene over and over again. The only real saving grace was the animated scene, which had an incling of a decent story. Second one isn't as bad, but still not very good.

I can never understand how people think those movies are great, or even that good.
Harlesburg
28-11-2006, 10:20
Casablanca is a fantastic film. Pearls before swine.
Pearls before swine?
I must have missed that.

Posting on NSG on a Sunday>Cassablanca