NationStates Jolt Archive

I believe I've already done a poll like this, but that was some months ago. Who do you believe is the most likely to take over America and take away freedom?

Bob Dole lost the 1996 election, so he's out.

The American people, they seem to be doing a good enough job now, and not just in their own country.

Guess that would be other.

One way or another it would be a Lunitic goofball...one that wont live long .

I voted Libertarians, not because I believe they wish to create an American dictatorship, but because I fear that may be a side effect to limiting the power of the American state.

The American Constitution is a formidable document, but by disenpowering the organisation that is sworn to obey it and empowering organisations that have no respect for it at all (corporations and so on), a bad situation could be just around the corner.

I surely hope its me or, more likely, someone I'm affiliated with. That would just be swell.

I surely hope its me or, more likely, someone I'm affiliated with. That would just be swell.

Am I affiliated with you?

Am I affiliated with you?
I don't think so...

i don't live in america. how ever, i believe that kaczynski is a threat to freedom in Poland, especially separation of chuch and state.

I voted Libertarians, not because I believe they wish to create an American dictatorship, but because I fear that may be a side effect to limiting the power of the American state.

...that's completely backward. Increasing the power of the state correlates to dictatorship.

I voted Libertarians, not because I believe they wish to create an American dictatorship, but because I fear that may be a side effect to limiting the power of the American state.
...say what?
Dictators have limited power?

...say what?
Dictators have limited power?

I think he's saying that decreasing the power of the state would let somebody sieze power and become a dictator.

Mebbe.

I don't think so...

And to think I was going to make you Minister of Public Sewage in my new regime.

Religion is always holding civilization back so I will place my vote there.

A joint effort of Christianity & Islam will do it I think.

I voted Libertarians, not because I believe they wish to create an American dictatorship, but because I fear that may be a side effect to limiting the power of the American state.
Dictatorship comes from increasing govt. power. so this cannot possibly cause dictatorship.

Religion is always holding civilization back so I will place my vote there.

A joint effort of Christianity & Islam will do it I think.

While blaming the Jewish conspiracy?

Or better yet, we'll have a Jewish rebellion and elect all Jews to office for the next hundred years after the rebellion succeeds.

While blaming the Jewish conspiracy?

Or better yet, we'll have a Jewish rebellion and elect all Jews to office for the next hundred years after the rebellion succeeds.

I think the Jews would do a better job then the other two so I might support such a Jewish rebellion.

Dictatorship comes from increasing govt. power. so this cannot possibly cause dictatorship.
Can all of you really not comprehend that without a state to protect you, some warlord or other could seize power?

I mean, it isn’t bloody likely, but it’s possible.

I think the Jews would do a better job then the other two so I might support such a Jewish rebellion.

They'd certainly be more educated, at least.

While blaming the Jewish conspiracy?
as long as they can fund an annual Run for the Jew.
i'm jewish. just in case.

I think the Jews would do a better job then the other two so I might support such a Jewish rebellion.

I wouldn't.
Trust me here, it's not too different from Islam. If you don't want Islam in power you don't want Judaism.
And just in case you try to make the case there aren't any Jewish fundies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahanism

I wouldn't.
Trust me here, it's not too different from Islam. If you don't want Islam in power you don't want Judaism.
And just in case you try to make the case there aren't any Jewish fundies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahanism

It wouldn't have to be ultra-Orthodox Judaism. Mainstream would do, I understand over the past decade, Israel has become increasingly secular, not to mention Americanized.

We have to be constantly wary of communists. We might have won the Cold War, but the moment we let our guard down, "bam"! They're watching our every move; when we show weakness, they'll sink their rotten teeth into our freedom-loving flesh.

I'm just kidding.

We have to be constantly wary of communists. We might have won the Cold War, but the moment we let our guard down, "bam"! They're watching our every move; when we show weakness, they'll sink their rotten teeth into our freedom-loving flesh.

I'm just kidding.

WOW. talk about paranoia.

In the not too distant future, a cataclysmic event (terrorism? natural disaster?) will leave the U.S. government unable to defend/care for a panicked people.

As such, the United Nations will 'assist' in the humanitarian effort, and in enforcing the declared martial law, by deploying the feared 'blue helmets' to american soil.

The Secretary General of the U.N. shall be no other than W.J. Clinton.

AND SO IT BEGINS !!!! ;)

Libertarians! clearly! They are evil, want to take away our freedom, our freedom to have a government regulating any part of our lifes! Run! HIDE!

(if you found sarcasm in this posting, you can sell it at eBay)

Can all of you really not comprehend that without a state to protect you, some warlord or other could seize power?

Can the one of you really not comprehend that no warlord ever controls anything as big as the USA? Hell, there's 2000 something warlords in Somalia alone. Any US warlord would probably not control more than 2 blocks of city or half a rural county...

Most likely to make America a dictatorship? Obviously: Fear & Paranoia.

Can the one of you really not comprehend that no warlord ever controls anything as big as the USA? Hell, there's 2000 something warlords in Somalia alone. Any US warlord would probably not control more than 2 blocks of city or half a rural county...
Obviously I’m not referring to one warlord then, am I? The situation in Somali is/was hardily desirable, and it’s not something I’d like to see in the US.

The American people, they seem to be doing a good enough job now
That's what I was going to say.

Americans have shown themselves quite amenable to the fascist's truncheon. As Spiro Agnew predicted.

Megacorporations--they're damn close to it now, if you ask me. In the not too distant future, I see nationhood being little more than a beard for corporate power.

I said it on the previous topic on the matter - and it's quoted by the OP -

How can you have an über-liberal dictatorship?

"We of the public want to unseat you from power"
"Hmm... I see... well, fair enough, and enjoy yourselves while you do so!"

I think that the United Soviet States of America sounds good. :)

I think he's saying that decreasing the power of the state would let somebody sieze power and become a dictator.

Mebbe.

That's pretty much what I am saying, yes. The American government is, by and large, a responsible holder of power. Tyranny is impossible under the American Constitution, but by weakening the power of groups governed by that document you increase the power of groups who are not governed by it.

Dictatorship comes from increasing govt. power. so this cannot possibly cause dictatorship.

You are mistaken if you believe that governments pose the only threat to your liberty.

Christian fundamentalists are the only group that could create a dictatorship that would live for long. Communists, fascists, etc., they would soon find themselves on the recieving end of a rebellion. Religion has the power to make people consent to a dictatorship.

And a Jewish theocracy could never get started. They'd never get ANYTHING done... including actually seizing power. They'd spend eternity arguing fiercely.

my vote went to Uber-Conservatives!

I said it on the previous topic on the matter - and it's quoted by the OP -

How can you have an über-liberal dictatorship?

"We of the public want to unseat you from power"
"Hmm... I see... well, fair enough, and enjoy yourselves while you do so!"

I think when the original poster says uber-liberals, he's basically talking about the American definition, which is, sadly, nothing more than a synonym for Democrat, as hilariously inapplicable as that may seem.

First the Lebanese bloke, then the Ruski, and now the uber-Conservatives hqve more votes but no chart. I smell a conspiracy!!!

I said it on the previous topic on the matter - and it's quoted by the OP -

How can you have an über-liberal dictatorship?

"We of the public want to unseat you from power"
"Hmm... I see... well, fair enough, and enjoy yourselves while you do so!"

No, it'd be more like this:

"We of the public want to unseat you from power"
"WHAT? Why aren't you having mindless sex and watching brain-melting TV? How come you didn't learn how great that was in school? Now go to college, party like there's no tomorrow, and don't come back until you've screwed at least 27 other people! Now run along; I have a hooker coming over in 15 minutes. Yes, I know I'm married, but my wife is a lesbian. No go away."

No, it'd be more like this:

"We of the public want to unseat you from power"
"WHAT? Why aren't you having mindless sex and watching brain-melting TV? How come you didn't learn how great that was in school? Now go to college, party like there's no tomorrow, and don't come back until you've screwed at least 27 other people! Now run along; I have a hooker coming over in 15 minutes. Yes, I know I'm married, but my wife is a lesbian. No go away."

:confused:

27 people at once?!?!?

:confused:

27 people at once?!?!?

I didn't say "at once" but now that you mention it...yes! The uber-liberals set the bar very high!

Uber-Conservatives. Besides, how would liberals turn America into a dictatorship? with their government-sponsored healthcare programs? And no, America will never be a left-leaning communist state either. So if liberals won't do it, conservatives will :p

Megacorporations--they're damn close to it now, if you ask me. In the not too distant future, I see nationhood being little more than a beard for corporate power.
I agree, all they would need to do is control Congress through their lobbyists and give tons of money to the Presidential Candidites that would do their bidding. Oh wait...their doing that already. Just increase the intensity and BAM! We're now the United Slaves of Corporate America.

It's legal for them to do that in our current government so the only way to stop them is to vote for smart people who can resist them. And for more Americans to vote in general.

I think the Jews would do a better job then the other two so I might support such a Jewish rebellion.

Most of the people in charge are jewish anyway arent they? isnt that the reason the US always supports Israel, regardless of its actions

Most of the people in charge are jewish anyway arent they? isnt that the reason the US always supports Israel, regardless of its actions
In that case why hasn't there been a Jewish President huh? And I can count the number of Jewish senators that I know of on one hand.

The US supports Israel because of some crap about it being their "only friend in the Middle East." Perhaps telling Israel when it is going too far is a step into making new friends.

I say conservatives. It's already in its infancy with our current government (likely part of the reason the recent election was such a tidal wave). The whole concept of the "unitary executive", the suspension of what were once thought of a basic rights, etc, all given to us by people taking up the conservative cause , and sold to us under the auspice of "national security". The big tagline of it all is "They want to kill your family, and we are the only ones who can protect you." Only we find that their "protection" comes with a price that far outweighs the quality of the product.