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My mate sent me this and I thought it was quite interesting. Apparently Hitler and Wittgenstein went to the same elementary school together. At this school, Hitler first developed his anti-semitism and his burgeoning rants were directed toward Wittgenstein. Hitler even mentions Wittgenstein the child in Mein Kamf. Nevertheless, Wittgenstein gets his revenge by cracking the enigma code, which is integral to the downfall of Hitler. Here's the link,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jew_of_Linz

and there's more interesting stuff concerning Wittgenstein and Russian spies. Who knew that despairing neurotic like Wittgenstein was involved in these affairs.

Never piss off the Jewish kid at school.

Never piss off the Jewish kid at school.

You should never piss off Hitler at school. Especially if your a jew.

You should never piss off Hitler at school. Especially if your a jew.

What if Hitler was the jew?

Just to be safe, don't piss off anyone, you never know who the future genocidal maniac is going to be.

What if Hitler was the jew?
His grandmother was a Jew.

His grandmother was a Jew.

Paternal or maternal?

Just to be safe, don't piss off anyone, you never know who the future genocidal maniac is going to be.

What if you're the future genocidal maniac?

Just to be safe, don't piss off anyone, you never know who the future genocidal maniac is going to be.

I don't think Witt meant to piss Hitler off. I think that you can't help pissing off genocidal maniacs.

Obviously the story is interesting because two people that came from the same area influenced the world greatly. I'm sure that there must be other instances of this because great people perhaps grow in the same fertile soil, as it were (e.g. the same same city).

I don't think Witt meant to piss Hitler off. I think that you can't help pissing off genocidal maniacs.

Obviously the story is interesting because two people that came from the same area influenced the world greatly. I'm sure that there must be other instances of this because great people perhaps grow in the same fertile soil, as it were (e.g. the same same city).

As opposed to the same different city.

As opposed to the same different city.

lol. OK, I won't edit that.

Paternal or maternal?
I believe paternal, but I don't remember correctly.

What if you're the future genocidal maniac?
Wouldn't that just be a kick in the pants for hardline right-wingers? To have a left-wing genocidal maniac on the loose! :p

What if you're the future genocidal maniac?
You never know, eh? You better like me. :p

What if Hitler was the jew?

Hitler wasn't a jew. The whole "his grandma was a jew" is a lie.

This is an awfully inane conversation.
I give it 4 stars.

This is an awfully inane conversation.
I give it 4 stars.

I second this.

*looks up inane*
*agrees*
*flees thread*

Hitler wasn't a jew. The whole "his grandma was a jew" is a lie.

Accordin to...?

Nothing beats the semantics of a prattle on about Hitler and the debate on is he a jew or not and OMG the definitions!.
*flees*

Anyone else notice the amusing irony of someone who was mocked by Hitler and proved his downfall being named Wit?

Anyone else notice the amusing irony of someone who was mocked by Hitler and proved his downfall being named Wit?

Considering he was named Wittgenstein, no, not really.
*ruins your joke*
Mwahahahaha

Considering he was named Wittgenstein, no, not really.
*ruins your joke*
Mwahahahaha

...

Damn you and your sexy Ifreanness...

...

Damn you and your sexy Ifreanness...

None can resist my sexy Ifreanness.

Many people claim hitler grandmother was a jewess, but she wasn't, that was just anti-white propaganda spewed out by communists and the such after the war.

I am a racialist, yet, National Socialism has it's downsides in Modern north america. I follow the creed of Creativity.

We Creators believe that Adolf Hitler was a pioneer who made a tremendous breakthrough for the White Race, but unfortunately he did not break the back of the Jewish monster. On the contrary, the Jews emerged victorious from the ashes of a defeated Germany. When WWII ended, the Jews were ten times more powerful than before that holocaust began. Now, over fifty years later they have further consolidated that power and tightened their death grip on the world, and on the White Race. It remains up to us, the present generation of the White People, to break that Jewish stranglehold. Nobody else will do it for us.

We Creators have learned much from the Nazi experience and the mistakes made in dealing with the Jewish monster.

1. Whereas the concern of Hitler and the Nazi movement was to save Germany from the enemies that surrounded her, the overwhelming goal of the Church of the RaHoWa! is to save the White Race and insure the survival, expansion and advancement of the White Race on a worldwide basis. We preach not Nationalism, but Racialism.


2. Hitler himself stated that the Nazi movement was a political movement exclusively for the Germans and not for export. CREATORS are, by contrast, a RACIAL MOVEMENT designed for global proportions to embrace all the White peoples of this Planet Earth.


3. Whereas Hitler never tackled the issue of Jewish Christianity, and, in fact, sometimes even mildly identified with it, we confront Christianity head-on, expose its treacherous and deceitful nature, and its Jewish origins.


4. Hitler left us a burdensome legacy that still lingers on in the minds of many of his admirers, and that is that the Jewish problem must be solved as a political problem. We Crusders say: not so, it is a religious problem that can only be solved by removing Jewish Christianity.


5. Whereas the Nazi movement took a harsh and hostile stance toward many of its White neighbours -- the French, the Poles, the Czechs, etc., CREATORS, on the other hand, seek to embrace and unite all the White peoples of the world in the spirit of White Racial loyalty and solidarity.


6. Whereas Hitler formed a military alliance with one of the more powerful mud races, namely the Japanese, to help kill White peoples, to us Church this is sheer treason and must never happen again. A cardinal rule for the Church of the RaHoWa! is: never again shall the White Race engage in suicidal warfare against its own kind but concentrate its power and hostility instead against its racial enemies -- Jews, niggers and the mud races.


7. We shun the "personality cult" approach to the overwhelming problem that confronts us and rely instead on logic and common sense, on the experience of history, and on the Eternal Laws of Nature as the broad and solid base upon which to build our powerful movement for White Racial Survival, Expansion and Advancement.


* * * * *

We must not get into the rut of merely rehashing the problem endlessly. Let us instead direct our energies constructively towards solving the problem by building a massive White Racial movement.
CREATIVITY IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

Is jewess even a word?

Other than that: bleh, propaganda, didn't read.

Many people claim hitler grandmother was a jewess, but she wasn't, that was just anti-white propaganda spewed out by communists and the such after the war.

I am a racialist, yet, National Socialism has it's downsides in Modern north america. I follow the creed of Creativity.

We Creators believe that Adolf Hitler was a pioneer who made a tremendous breakthrough for the White Race, but unfortunately he did not break the back of the Jewish monster. On the contrary, the Jews emerged victorious from the ashes of a defeated Germany. When WWII ended, the Jews were ten times more powerful than before that holocaust began. Now, over fifty years later they have further consolidated that power and tightened their death grip on the world, and on the White Race. It remains up to us, the present generation of the White People, to break that Jewish stranglehold. Nobody else will do it for us.

We Creators have learned much from the Nazi experience and the mistakes made in dealing with the Jewish monster.

1. Whereas the concern of Hitler and the Nazi movement was to save Germany from the enemies that surrounded her, the overwhelming goal of the Church of the RaHoWa! is to save the White Race and insure the survival, expansion and advancement of the White Race on a worldwide basis. We preach not Nationalism, but Racialism.


2. Hitler himself stated that the Nazi movement was a political movement exclusively for the Germans and not for export. CREATORS are, by contrast, a RACIAL MOVEMENT designed for global proportions to embrace all the White peoples of this Planet Earth.


3. Whereas Hitler never tackled the issue of Jewish Christianity, and, in fact, sometimes even mildly identified with it, we confront Christianity head-on, expose its treacherous and deceitful nature, and its Jewish origins.


4. Hitler left us a burdensome legacy that still lingers on in the minds of many of his admirers, and that is that the Jewish problem must be solved as a political problem. We Crusders say: not so, it is a religious problem that can only be solved by removing Jewish Christianity.


5. Whereas the Nazi movement took a harsh and hostile stance toward many of its White neighbours -- the French, the Poles, the Czechs, etc., CREATORS, on the other hand, seek to embrace and unite all the White peoples of the world in the spirit of White Racial loyalty and solidarity.


6. Whereas Hitler formed a military alliance with one of the more powerful mud races, namely the Japanese, to help kill White peoples, to us Church this is sheer treason and must never happen again. A cardinal rule for the Church of the RaHoWa! is: never again shall the White Race engage in suicidal warfare against its own kind but concentrate its power and hostility instead against its racial enemies -- Jews, niggers and the mud races.


7. We shun the "personality cult" approach to the overwhelming problem that confronts us and rely instead on logic and common sense, on the experience of history, and on the Eternal Laws of Nature as the broad and solid base upon which to build our powerful movement for White Racial Survival, Expansion and Advancement.


* * * * *

We must not get into the rut of merely rehashing the problem endlessly. Let us instead direct our energies constructively towards solving the problem by building a massive White Racial movement.
CREATIVITY IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

Because, as we all know, pinkish skin, commonly referred to as white, is a defining symbol of superiority. We must clearly be better than all other ethnicities, nevermind the fact that scientific evidence proves this to be false, nevermind the fact that it's just plain ridiculous, nevermind the fact that racism is simply idiocy.

The cultures and achievements of the Asian peoples, the African peoples, and the Arabian peoples far outstrip any European achievements up till the 16th century. Even then, they continue to prove themselves every bit the equal to any "white" people. Fact is, human is human is human. No one ethnicity is superior to any other. As a white, heterosexual male, I officially oppose any and all racism, sexism, sexual orientationism, agism, and all other forms of discrimination and intolorance. Speak what you will, racist, but I won't allow you to act upon any delusional ideals you might hold.

...

Holy crap I sound cliche as all get out. A sign of how tired I am, eh?

Is jewess even a word?

Other than that: bleh, propaganda, didn't read.
Jew·ess Pronunciation (js)
n. Offensive
A Jewish woman or girl.
Usage Note: Like many other English nouns in which the suffix -ess is added to a gender-neutral word to indicate femaleness, the terms Jewess and Negress are now widely regarded as offensive. It is interesting to note that the objection to words formed with the -ess suffix does not apply to words such as Latina and Chicana, whose contrasting forms Latino and Chicano are not gender-neutral but rather refer even in English primarily to males. See Usage Notes at -ess, Latina1.

Is jewess even a word?

Other than that: bleh, propaganda, didn't read.

Because, as we all know, pinkish skin, commonly referred to as white, is a defining symbol of superiority. We must clearly be better than all other ethnicities, nevermind the fact that scientific evidence proves this to be false, nevermind the fact that it's just plain ridiculous, nevermind the fact that racism is simply idiocy.

The cultures and achievements of the Asian peoples, the African peoples, and the Arabian peoples far outstrip any European achievements up till the 16th century. Even then, they continue to prove themselves every bit the equal to any "white" people. Fact is, human is human is human. No one ethnicity is superior to any other. As a white, heterosexual male, I officially oppose any and all racism, sexism, sexual orientationism, agism, and all other forms of discrimination and intolorance. Speak what you will, racist, but I won't allow you to act upon any delusional ideals you might hold.

...

Holy crap I sound cliche as all get out. A sign of how tired I am, eh?

Equal you say?

If there is one thing in this wonderful world of ours that is worth preserving, defending, and promoting, it is the White Race. Nature looked fondly upon the White Race and lavished special loving care in its growth. Of all the millions of creatures who have inhabited the face of this planet over the eons of time, none has ever quite equaled that of the White Race. Nature endowed her Elite with a greater abundance of intelligence and creativity, of energy and productivity than she endowed unto any other creature, now or in the millenniums past.

It has been the White Race who has been the world builder, the makers of cities and commerce and continents. It is the White Man who is the sole builder of civilizations. It was he who built the Egyptian civilization, the great unsurpassed Roman civilization, the Greek civilization of beauty and culture, and who, after having been dealt a serious blow by a new Semitic religion, wallowed through the Dark Ages, finally extricated himself, and then built the great European civilization.

These European White Men, then, with civilization in their blood and in their destiny, crossed the Atlantic and set up a new civilization on a bleak and rock bound coast. It was the White Men who drove north to Alaska and west to California; the men who opened up the tropics and subdued the Arctics; the men who mastered the African Veldts; the men who peopled Australia and seized the gates of the world at Suez, Gibraltar and Panama.

It was the White Race who produced men like Columbus who crossed the unknown Atlantic; men like Magellan who first circumnavigated the globe; men like Michaelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Rembrandt, Velazquez, Bernini, Rubens, Raphael and thousands of other geniuses who created beautiful and exquisite productions in the fields of sculpture and painting; geniuses like Beethoven, Bach, Wagner and Verdi who created beautiful music; men like James Watt who invented the steam engine; men like Daimler who invented and built the reciprocating internal combustion engine; production geniuses like Henry Ford, inventors like Thomas Edison; such a prodigal genius as Nikola Tesla in the field of physics and electricity; literary geniuses like Shakespeare, Goethe and thousands of others, untold geniuses in the fields of mathematics, in the fields of chemistry and physics.

It was the White Man who spanned the continents of the world with railroads and super highways and electrical power lines. It was the White Man who created the miraculous world of electronics, ushering in the telephone, the radio and television. It was the White Race, who in a combined burst of energy and genius sent rockets to the moon and planted the feet of the White Man on extra-terrestrial territory in the last decade.

The brilliant accomplishments of the White Race are endless and rapidly expanding even as this is being written. All one has to do is leaf through the pages of an encyclopedia to appreciate the magnificent legacy of achievements wrought by the White Race through the centuries.

What other race can even come close to this remarkable record of creativity, achievement and productivity? The answer is none. None whatsoever. None can even come close. In contrast, the black man of Africa never so much as even invented the wheel.

Yes, it is the White Man, with his inborn and inbred genius, that has given form to every government and a livelihood to every other people, and above all, great ideals to every century. Yes, we are the ones, racial comrades, who were especially endowed by Nature and chosen to be the ruling Elite of the world. Indeed, we were chosen by Nature to be masters of the world by building it ever better and better. We were destined to be fruitful and to multiply and to inhabit the entire hospitable face of this planet. This is our Manifest Destiny as ordained by Nature herself.

We, the White Race, have such a glorious heritage and such an illustrious history that every member of the White Race should be bursting with pride to be part of it. Each and every one of us must dedicate ourselves to the great mission that Nature has set for us, but have not yet fulfilled, namely: to rule and to populate all the good earth of this planet.

;)

Hitler wasn't a jew. The whole "his grandma was a jew" is a lie.

true. where the rumour comes is that, they have no record of one of his grandfathers and it is posible he was a jew. but no concrete evidence. apparently his grandmother was raped.

nova v.
mud races?
you know that hilter stole many ideas from asian culture. example; the word aryan.
he also stated that tibet was the closest to a perfect culture. hitler was also a crazy person so his opinions may changed frequently on subjects, like socialism, as a main example.

Equal you say?
Yes, it is the White Man, with his inborn and inbred genius, that has given form to every government and a livelihood to every other people, and above all, great ideals to every century. Yes, we are the ones, racial comrades, who were especially endowed by Nature and chosen to be the ruling Elite of the world. Indeed, we were chosen by Nature to be masters of the world by building it ever better and better. We were destined to be fruitful and to multiply and to inhabit the entire hospitable face of this planet. This is our Manifest Destiny as ordained by Nature herself.
;)

Aside from the mindless drivel spewing forth from someone trying waaay to hard to sound half assed intelligent and yet truly letting his ignorance show.

I did find the inbred comment amusing....

I'd give you 9/10 for trolling, Nova Vinlandia.

I'd give you 9/10 for trolling, Nova Vinlandia.

*Holds up score card* I give Nova Vinlandia a 6....

Much too obvious, lacks subtly.

Jew·ess Pronunciation (js)
n. Offensive
A Jewish woman or girl.
Usage Note: Like many other English nouns in which the suffix -ess is added to a gender-neutral word to indicate femaleness, the terms Jewess and Negress are now widely regarded as offensive. It is interesting to note that the objection to words formed with the -ess suffix does not apply to words such as Latina and Chicana, whose contrasting forms Latino and Chicano are not gender-neutral but rather refer even in English primarily to males. See Usage Notes at -ess, Latina1.
Curious.
Equal you say?
Quite obviously the differences are little more than skin deep.

If there is one thing in this wonderful world of ours that is worth preserving, defending, and promoting, it is the White Race. Nature looked fondly upon the White Race and lavished special loving care in its growth. Of all the millions of creatures who have inhabited the face of this planet over the eons of time, none has ever quite equaled that of the White Race. Nature endowed her Elite with a greater abundance of intelligence and creativity, of energy and productivity than she endowed unto any other creature, now or in the millenniums past.
Proof?

It has been the White Race who has been the world builder, the makers of cities and commerce and continents. It is the White Man who is the sole builder of civilizations. It was he who built the Egyptian civilization
No, that would have been the Middle Eastern Man
, the great unsurpassed Roman civilization, the Greek civilization of beauty and culture, and who, after having been dealt a serious blow by a new Semitic religion, wallowed through the Dark Ages, finally extricated himself, and then built the great European civilization.
The Barbarians=/=jews

These European White Men, then, with civilization in their blood and in their destiny
Poetic but unsubstantiated
, crossed the Atlantic and set up a new civilization on a bleak and rock bound coast. It was the White Men who drove north to Alaska and west to California;
Yes, and what a shining beacon for the world America is today :rolleyes:
the men who opened up the tropics and subdued the Arctics; the men who mastered the African Veldts; the men who peopled Australia
Australia was already peopled.
and seized the gates of the world at Suez, Gibraltar and Panama.
Making a canal(which didn't happen at Gibraltar btw) is seizing the gates of the world?

It was the White Race who produced men like Columbus who crossed the unknown Atlantic; men like Magellan who first circumnavigated the globe; men like Michaelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Rembrandt, Velazquez, Bernini, Rubens, Raphael and thousands of other geniuses who created beautiful and exquisite productions in the fields of sculpture and painting; geniuses like Beethoven, Bach, Wagner and Verdi who created beautiful music; men like James Watt who invented the steam engine; men like Daimler who invented and built the reciprocating internal combustion engine; production geniuses like Henry Ford, inventors like Thomas Edison; such a prodigal genius as Nikola Tesla in the field of physics and electricity; literary geniuses like Shakespeare, Goethe and thousands of others, untold geniuses in the fields of mathematics, in the fields of chemistry and physics.
And do you have any proof that these people did any of these things because they were white?

It was the White Man who spanned the continents of the world with railroads and super highways and electrical power lines. It was the White Man who created the miraculous world of electronics, ushering in the telephone, the radio and television. It was the White Race, who in a combined burst of energy and genius sent rockets to the moon and planted the feet of the White Man on extra-terrestrial territory in the last decade.
See above

The brilliant accomplishments of the White Race are endless and rapidly expanding even as this is being written. All one has to do is leaf through the pages of an encyclopedia to appreciate the magnificent legacy of achievements wrought by the White Race through the centuries.
See above

What other race can even come close to this remarkable record of creativity, achievement and productivity? The answer is none. None whatsoever. None can even come close. In contrast, the black man of Africa never so much as even invented the wheel.
Proof?

Yes, it is the White Man, with his inborn and inbred genius,
See above.
that has given form to every government
See above
and a livelihood to every other people, and above all, great ideals to every century. Yes, we are the ones, racial comrades, who were especially endowed by Nature and chosen to be the ruling Elite of the world.
See above
Indeed, we were chosen by Nature to be masters of the world by building it ever better and better. We were destined to be fruitful and to multiply and to inhabit the entire hospitable face of this planet. This is our Manifest Destiny as ordained by Nature herself.
Proof?

We, the White Race, have such a glorious heritage and such an illustrious history that every member of the White Race should be bursting with pride to be part of it.
Why, because our skin has a similar melanin content to great people? How arbitrary
Each and every one of us must dedicate ourselves to the great mission that Nature has set for us, but have not yet fulfilled, namely: to rule and to populate all the good earth of this planet.

;)

Or how about, no, we're not the master race, we're just a different flavour of human?

EDIT: Oh, and:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/gtfogrowswearybullshitptu8.jpg

*Holds up score card* I give Nova Vinlandia a 6....

Much too obvious, lacks subtly.

I agree. But I'd give a 7 for a poetic exectution.

Okay, so far we have an average score of 7.3.

Anyone else care to play rate the Troll?

Anyone else care to play rate the Troll?
Oooooo! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!! Uh... what scale do I work with here?

We Creators believe that Adolf Hitler was a pioneer who made a tremendous breakthrough for the White Race, but unfortunately he did not break the back of the Jewish monster...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what do you make of the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus? Is it really just a way of legitimising metaphysical discussion, even though it claims to be the exact opposite?

Out of ten, as usual.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what do you make of the Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus? Is it really just a way of legitimising metaphysical discussion, even though it claims to be the exact opposite?

:confused:

:confused:

I was thinking the same thing.

:confused:

Just trying to swing this thread back from the all too predictable discussion of that short chap with the tache - we've all been there far to many times - and onto something a touch more interesting.

Sad day when mentioning the name of one of the C20th's most famous philosophical works gets a 'confused' response.

Just trying to swing this thread back from the all too predictable discussion of that short chap with the tache - we've all been there far to many times - and onto something a touch more interesting.

Sad day when mentioning the name of one of the C20th's most famous philosophical works gets a 'confused' response.

I don't study philosophy, I'd like to be able to get a job after college ;)

I don't study philosophy, I'd like to be able to get a job after college ;)

I found my four years of study no hindrance to employment, but yeah, you're right, the acquisition of small bits of paper or metal disks is more important than asking questions about the world.

I found my four years of study no hindrance to employment.

What manner of employment does one get with a degree in philosophy?

What manner of employment does one get with a degree in philosophy?

In my case? Sound engineer.

In my case? Sound engineer.

*takes note* Coolio. It's just I know someone who wanted to have psychology as her major in her arts degree, but for some reason she couldn't have it and has philosophy instead.

Wittgenstein was a philosopher, he had nothing to do with the enigma code except for perhaps meeting the guy who did crack it? So this is a pointless thread :D

Actually I would like to know how wittgenstien cracked engima while working as a hospital porter at the RVI.

Actually I would like to know how wittgenstien cracked engima while working as a hospital porter at the RVI.

Given that he managed to write the Tractatus whilst in the trenches, such a feat would not actually be as far beyond his capabilities as you might first expect.

Given that he managed to write the Tractatus whilst in the trenches, such a feat would not actually be as far beyond his capabilities as you might first expect.

Ah, but he pulled the tractatus from thin air - or other parts. To break engima he'd need access to intercepts, bombes and the like. Not something that would be left lying around in the A&E of a tyneside hospital I imagine.

Ah, but he pulled the tractatus from thin air - or other parts. To break engima he'd need access to intercepts, bombes and the like. Not something that would be left lying around in the A&E of a tyneside hospital I imagine.

Unless he had access to sources or a network of which we are not fully aware: doesn't it strike you as a tad suspicious that one of the Poles most involved in cracking the code pre-WWII was called Marian ReJEWski?

true. where the rumour comes is that, they have no record of one of his grandfathers and it is posible he was a jew. but no concrete evidence. apparently his grandmother was raped.His grandmother came up pregnant after serving in a Jewish household as a servant. Since she was unmarried at the time, it was assumed her employer was the father. No proof of that, or for rape either.

Okay, so far we have an average score of 7.3.

Anyone else care to play rate the Troll?I give him an 8. I find his language most picturesque.
Though I do resent him using a Viking associated name. The Norse were equal oppotunity predators.

pfff everyone KNOWS hitler was a jew!

His rise to power was a zionist conspiracy!
Look at the events.
Hitler rise to power causes many jews to "flee" germany and go to america, who through there connections are able to settle there and through there own channel are able to forge media conglomerates and other businesses that allow them to know dominate several industries in the US.
All of these deathcamps are in eastern europe, which was conveniently behind the iron curtain. How do we know any of the bodies of the supposed dead, were not anti-soviets or other groups?
And what happens at the end of the war? Europe is devastated, hitler is never found and suddenly the jews (hiss, evil!!!) has a homeland which they have not had in 2000 years from land stolen from arabs.

Though I do resent him using a Viking associated name. The Norse were equal oppotunity predators.

I'm sure the irony of having selected a Viking associated name (a people who fought other white people for living space) whilst castigating Hitler for pursuing a policy of fighting other white people for living space hasn't been lost on him.

...of course, Viking culture had much more to do with farming than fighting, obviously.

dont want to seem agreeing with nova v, but the white man did first bring democracy.

dont want to seem agreeing with nova v, but the white man did first bring democracy.
The Greeks aren't 'white' - they are Eastern European. :p

The Greeks aren't 'white' - they are Eastern European. :p

hitler said the greeks were good enough. "almost ayran", i think was his words.

Equal you say?

If there is one thing in this wonderful world of ours that is worth preserving, defending, and promoting, it is the White Race. Nature looked fondly upon the White Race and lavished special loving care in its growth. Of all the millions of creatures who have inhabited the face of this planet over the eons of time, none has ever quite equaled that of the White Race. Nature endowed her Elite with a greater abundance of intelligence and creativity, of energy and productivity than she endowed unto any other creature, now or in the millenniums past.

It has been the White Race who has been the world builder, the makers of cities and commerce and continents. It is the White Man who is the sole builder of civilizations. It was he who built the Egyptian civilization, the great unsurpassed Roman civilization, the Greek civilization of beauty and culture, and who, after having been dealt a serious blow by a new Semitic religion, wallowed through the Dark Ages, finally extricated himself, and then built the great European civilization.

These European White Men, then, with civilization in their blood and in their destiny, crossed the Atlantic and set up a new civilization on a bleak and rock bound coast. It was the White Men who drove north to Alaska and west to California; the men who opened up the tropics and subdued the Arctics; the men who mastered the African Veldts; the men who peopled Australia and seized the gates of the world at Suez, Gibraltar and Panama.

It was the White Race who produced men like Columbus who crossed the unknown Atlantic; men like Magellan who first circumnavigated the globe; men like Michaelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Rembrandt, Velazquez, Bernini, Rubens, Raphael and thousands of other geniuses who created beautiful and exquisite productions in the fields of sculpture and painting; geniuses like Beethoven, Bach, Wagner and Verdi who created beautiful music; men like James Watt who invented the steam engine; men like Daimler who invented and built the reciprocating internal combustion engine; production geniuses like Henry Ford, inventors like Thomas Edison; such a prodigal genius as Nikola Tesla in the field of physics and electricity; literary geniuses like Shakespeare, Goethe and thousands of others, untold geniuses in the fields of mathematics, in the fields of chemistry and physics.

It was the White Man who spanned the continents of the world with railroads and super highways and electrical power lines. It was the White Man who created the miraculous world of electronics, ushering in the telephone, the radio and television. It was the White Race, who in a combined burst of energy and genius sent rockets to the moon and planted the feet of the White Man on extra-terrestrial territory in the last decade.

The brilliant accomplishments of the White Race are endless and rapidly expanding even as this is being written. All one has to do is leaf through the pages of an encyclopedia to appreciate the magnificent legacy of achievements wrought by the White Race through the centuries.

What other race can even come close to this remarkable record of creativity, achievement and productivity? The answer is none. None whatsoever. None can even come close. In contrast, the black man of Africa never so much as even invented the wheel.

Yes, it is the White Man, with his inborn and inbred genius, that has given form to every government and a livelihood to every other people, and above all, great ideals to every century. Yes, we are the ones, racial comrades, who were especially endowed by Nature and chosen to be the ruling Elite of the world. Indeed, we were chosen by Nature to be masters of the world by building it ever better and better. We were destined to be fruitful and to multiply and to inhabit the entire hospitable face of this planet. This is our Manifest Destiny as ordained by Nature herself.

We, the White Race, have such a glorious heritage and such an illustrious history that every member of the White Race should be bursting with pride to be part of it. Each and every one of us must dedicate ourselves to the great mission that Nature has set for us, but have not yet fulfilled, namely: to rule and to populate all the good earth of this planet.

;)

Congratulations! You have mastered the cut-and-paste keystrokes. A wondrous achievement!

http://www.overthrow.com/creator/ner/ner-1-02.asp

It was the White Race, who in a combined burst of energy and genius sent rockets to the moon and planted the feet of the White Man on extra-terrestrial territory in the last decade.

You are posting from the 1970's, yes?

1. Whereas the concern of Hitler and the Nazi movement was to save Germany from the enemies that surrounded her, the overwhelming goal of the Church of the RaHoWa! is to save the White Race and insure the survival, expansion and advancement of the White Race on a worldwide basis. We preach not Nationalism, but Racialism.


2. Hitler himself stated that the Nazi movement was a political movement exclusively for the Germans and not for export. CREATORS are, by contrast, a RACIAL MOVEMENT designed for global proportions to embrace all the White peoples of this Planet Earth.


3. Whereas Hitler never tackled the issue of Jewish Christianity, and, in fact, sometimes even mildly identified with it, we confront Christianity head-on, expose its treacherous and deceitful nature, and its Jewish origins.


4. Hitler left us a burdensome legacy that still lingers on in the minds of many of his admirers, and that is that the Jewish problem must be solved as a political problem. We Crusders say: not so, it is a religious problem that can only be solved by removing Jewish Christianity.


5. Whereas the Nazi movement took a harsh and hostile stance toward many of its White neighbours -- the French, the Poles, the Czechs, etc., CREATORS, on the other hand, seek to embrace and unite all the White peoples of the world in the spirit of White Racial loyalty and solidarity.


6. Whereas Hitler formed a military alliance with one of the more powerful mud races, namely the Japanese, to help kill White peoples, to us Church this is sheer treason and must never happen again. A cardinal rule for the Church of the RaHoWa! is: never again shall the White Race engage in suicidal warfare against its own kind but concentrate its power and hostility instead against its racial enemies -- Jews, niggers and the mud races.


7. We shun the "personality cult" approach to the overwhelming problem that confronts us and rely instead on logic and common sense, on the experience of history, and on the Eternal Laws of Nature as the broad and solid base upon which to build our powerful movement for White Racial Survival, Expansion and Advancement.


Another cut-and-paste. Wow. Can't you think for yourself?

In my case? Sound engineer.
In my case: Database Architect

And I'm a big fan of the Tractatus.

Sad day when mentioning the name of one of the C20th's most famous philosophical works gets a 'confused' response.

i think only the french figured out how to really become famous philosophers in the 20th century

Hitler was gay, but not jewish

In the study of the whole historical movement of the White Race struggling to free itself from under the heel of Jewish tyranny, the name of Adolf Hitler shines forth as the brightest meteor to flash through the heavens since the beginning of history. No doubt the White Race will produce even greater men in the future, but it is my considered opinion that Adolf Hitler stands head and shoulders above any other man as the greatest leader the White Race has ever produced, and as the greatest White Man that ever lived. This may sound as an overly extravagant evaluation, but if so, no man deserved it more, nor did any man come by it more honestly.

The contribution that this great White Man made towards striking a resounding blow for the cause of the White Race and accomplishing a near break-through in smashing the Jewish conspiracy will go down in history as one of the most heroic battles in the history of mankind. When we consider what little he had to start with, what little he had to work with, how tremendous were the obstacles that he had to overcome, the Herculean efforts that were expended, and the heroic fight that was waged, we can safely say without contradiction that in the words of William Shakespeare, "the elements so mixed in him that Nature might stand up and say to all the world, this was a man!"

Indeed, Adolf Hitler was not only the epitome of a man, but he best represented those qualities that shine forth in the White Race ? honor, heroism, genius, creativity, leadership, an artistic spirit, and above all, the readiness to sacrifice himself for the good of his race.

But for this one man, undoubtedly Germany would have been overwhelmingly communized in the early 30's. Since Germany is the key and the anchor nation in the heart of Europe, undoubtedly in short order the entire continent would have fallen victim to Jewish-Marxist communism.

Certainly if Hitler and the new National Socialist movement that he founded had not saved Germany, Spain also would have fallen victim to this treacherous cancer. Undoubtedly, the vicious and destructive Spanish Civil War would never have turned out to be a victory for the fighters against Jewish communism. With Spain and Germany gone, in short order a sick and dissipated France, already infected with the Marxist virus, would have succumbed. With Spain, France and Germany on the one side and communist Russia on the other side, it is unthinkable that the Balkan countries of Romania, Czechoslovakia and the others would have put up any worthwhile resistance in the Jewish onslaught to enslave Europe. With the continent gone, the small island kingdom of Great Britain, itself long a citadel of Jewish money power, would shortly have fallen like an overripe tomato. Certainly Fascist Italy would have shortly crumbled, under military invasion, if necessary, and the few other small and relatively weak countries, such as the Scandinavian countries and Greece, would have offered no obstacle whatsoever. So it can be readily seen that if it had not been for the advent of Adolf Hitler, Europe by the 1930's would have been totally crushed in the giant maws of Jewish Marxism.

Undoubtedly by the middle 30's all of Europe would have been in the grip of this fiendish pestilence that we today call communism but is really the Jewish program for the destruction of the White Race and its civilization. Without a doubt, America, who has within its environs more Jews than any other country in the world, and who supplied the money, the material, the production of the armaments of war, certainly, America would not have resisted the final onslaught of this cancer. It is, therefore, fairly safe to say but for the grace of a kindly Providence and the appearance of Adolf Hitler on the scene of world history, today, you and I would be living under a complete nightmare such as has darkened the lights throughout Russia and Eastern Europe today.

But, you might say, Adolf Hitler was destroyed, Germany was utterly defeated, and National Socialism was completely crushed without a vestige remaining.

It is true Adolf Hitler is dead. It is true Germany was utterly vanquished and left a mass of rubble. It is true that National Socialism was eradicated as a political party in Germany. So what has Adolf Hitler done for us ? for the White Race?

Well, he has done a great deal. For one thing he has bought us time. As we stated previously, undoubtedly by the end of the 1930's all of Europe and most likely the whole world would be lying crushed and gutted, cowering at the feet of the diabolical Jewish monster ? communist Marxism. Adolf Hitler did not die in vain. He died for his beloved White Race, including you and me. He bought us at least 50 years of time in which we could rally ourselves and make a great Final effort to victoriously crush the monster that is now still clutching at our throat.

Yes, he bought us time and he did more than that, he gave us a sense of direction and he gave us a great cause and an inspiring example to strive for. He challenged this vile evil and he showed us all that this monstrous world plague could be challenged and could be overcome. In fact, he came marvelously close to winning the battle in his own time. He gave us hope, he gave us an example, and he gave us an ideology to fight for. In clear lines, he delineated the enemy, and he set forth the goal. He established the first White government that was based on a racial foundation.

Adolf Hitler did not die in vain. From his ashes shall rise a Phoenix right in the heart of America that will spring to life again and take up the battle to save not only America, but to save the White Race for the entire world.

The life story of Adolf Hitler undoubtedly constitutes the most fantastic true romance of any story that has ever been written in the history of mankind. It is a true story, not a fantasy conjured in the minds of storytellers. It is a great epic that has occurred within this present century and we can be proud that it has happened in our own time.

To understand the story of Adolf Hitler we must first of all reach back into the history of Germany itself, and even before that, the story of the German people. ...........

...........

Another day, another cut and paste. Yawn. Are all you white guys so boring? Can you do anything other than republish other people's ideas?

Another day, another cut and paste. Yawn. Are all you white guys so boring? Can you do anything other than republish other people's ideas?

Thinking is the tool of the Jewish conspiracy and the mud races with which they are allied.

I give him an 8. I find his language most picturesque.
Though I do resent him using a Viking associated name. The Norse were equal oppotunity predators.

His average is now a 7.5, slowly climbing in the troll charts...



hitler said the greeks were good enough. "almost ayran", i think was his words.

Hitler said alot of things that were not his original ideas and a vast majority of them were bent and twisted to his own agenda at that. While I can appreciate the fact that he was charismatic in his madness, and that he had pretty good tastes in generals (at least for the first part of the war). I would have to say that he was much like Nova Vinlandia, lacking of an original thought.

Another day, another cut and paste. Yawn. Are all you white guys so boring? Can you do anything other than republish other people's ideas?

I do however take some issue with this statement, it is tantamount to me asking if all black guys are gang members, or all hispanic people crossed the border illegally. I find it just as hateful.

I do however take some issue with this statement, it is tantamount to me asking if all black guys are gang members, or all hispanic people crossed the border illegally. I find it just as hateful.

You consider being boring on a par with being a member of a (presumably violent, judging by your tone) gang or an illegal immigrant?

You consider being boring on a par with being a member of a (presumably violent, judging by your tone) gang or an illegal immigrant?

No, but I consider your statement to have a stereotypical tone, or does asking if all asians are good at math more to your liking?

Believe me when I say that I have a dislike of any extremist spewing forth their propaganda ladened crap, whether it be white, black, asian, religious groups, government or what have you.

I am not saying that you are an extremist by any means, but, while it may not seem as bad as the, "White people should rule everyone!" crap, it does continue a trend of mistrust and hatred that people should be trying to stamp out. I don't think everything in this world should be all hugs and cute little bunnies, but we have seen and continue to see what that kind of attitude brings about in the world. It starts small, but it grows like a cancer. It is amazing that the human race has made it this far.

Now do you get what I am saying?

Hitler was gay, but not jewish
Eva Braun was a woman.
You welsh wouldn't know about women now would you?
Seeing as you like the Sheep?;)

pfff everyone KNOWS hitler was a jew!

His rise to power was a zionist conspiracy!
Look at the events.
Hitler rise to power causes many jews to "flee" germany and go to america, who through there connections are able to settle there and through there own channel are able to forge media conglomerates and other businesses that allow them to know dominate several industries in the US.
All of these deathcamps are in eastern europe, which was conveniently behind the iron curtain. How do we know any of the bodies of the supposed dead, were not anti-soviets or other groups?
And what happens at the end of the war? Europe is devastated, hitler is never found and suddenly the jews (hiss, evil!!!) has a homeland which they have not had in 2000 years from land stolen from arabs.

Wait, wait, wait, wait...

Did you just accuse the Holocaust, the single worst bit of genocide against Jews to ever occur, as being part of a ZIONEST CONSPIRACY?! That killing six million+ of their own people was part of a grab for power?!

Okay. You have, officially, now and forever more, stated the single most ridiculous thing ever said on NationStates. Period.

If there is one thing in this wonderful world of ours that is worth preserving, defending, and promoting, it is the White Race. Nature looked fondly upon the White Race and lavished special loving care in its growth.

Wonderful rhetoric; care to provide some proof of this "special care" that wasn't exercised over any other "races"?


It was he who built the Egyptian civilization

You realize that Egypt is in AFRICA, right?



wallowed through the Dark Ages, finally extricated himself, and then built the great European civilization.

Extricated himself thanks to the preservation of Ancient Greek lore (which had MIDDLE EASTERN INFLUENCE) thanks to the Muslims (WHO WERE ARAB) and the work of Christian monks (WHO WERE CHRISTIANS, AND CHRISTIANITY TRACES BACK TO JUDAISM).



These European White Men, then, with civilization in their blood and in their destiny, crossed the Atlantic and set up a new civilization on a bleak and rock bound coast. It was the White Men who drove north to Alaska and west to California; the men who opened up the tropics and subdued the Arctics; the men who mastered the African Veldts; the men who peopled Australia and seized the gates of the world at Suez, Gibraltar and Panama.

Much of the brutality inflicted upon the Native peoples was due to gunpowder, a CHINESE invention.

Besides, just because a civilization is able to drive out other civilizations doesn't mean it's a better civilization. Why do you equate force with superiority?



It was the White Man who spanned the continents of the world with railroads and super highways and electrical power lines. It was the White Man who created the miraculous world of electronics, ushering in the telephone, the radio and television. It was the White Race, who in a combined burst of energy and genius sent rockets to the moon and planted the feet of the White Man on extra-terrestrial territory in the last decade.

It's also the White Man (or mostly White Men, anyway) who's killing the planet now by pumping the air full of his fossil fuels, dumping nuclear waste into the oceans, destroying forests, etc.

Oh, but wait. Let me guess. The White Man is so powerful, only he can kill himself off. What other race has managed that, right?




What other race can even come close to this remarkable record of creativity, achievement and productivity? The answer is none. None whatsoever. None can even come close. In contrast, the black man of Africa never so much as even invented the wheel.

Proof? Besides, the first wheel was invented in Summaria, what is now modern day Iraq.

Have you ever read Guns, Germs, and Steel? It more or less refutes all of your flawed premises.

Why don't you think for yourself, Nazi-Boy. Come on, you're a member of the Master Race. Why can't you formulate single argument on your own, without resorting to cut-and-paste from some asinine website? You call yourself an Aryan? Hitler would have put you up against a wall and shot you.

Wait, wait, wait, wait...

Did you just accuse the Holocaust, the single worst bit of genocide against Jews to ever occur, as being part of a ZIONEST CONSPIRACY?! That killing six million+ of their own people was part of a grab for power?!

Okay. You have, officially, now and forever more, stated the single most ridiculous thing ever said on NationStates. Period.

That's not a new theory. I've seen it on here before, much to my amusement.

It's even worse than the one saying the US government planned 9/11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=equaVgg_8Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bS0ieJwMmQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-rmOQh1ruo

More about Earnst Zundel can be found at: http://zundelsite.org/

Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax, even you friendly users of this forum.

You people seem to know everything, yet you also seem to know nothing of the real world. Here's the truth from my point of view.

Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the design and fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In 1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident on all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.

In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter's findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever occurring.

The structural integrity of these "gas chambers" is also extremely faulty, and did not exist(although I feel like I've been in one since I started posting on this forum from all of the anti-white non-sense). These rooms have ordinary doors and windows which are not hermetically sealed! There are large gaps between the floors and doors. If the Germans had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms, they would have died themselves, as the gas would have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings. Nothing was made to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chambers. There are no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floors or ceilings. They have never proved it with evidence, not even exhaust stacks have ever existed.

Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers(which is a total crock of crap), not one body has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning. We have been shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of these persons died of typhus or starvation or Allied bombings and a great many of those were murdered Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten football fields should be packed full of gassed bodies to present as evidence, yet not one body has ever been discovered. Did you read that, oh so faithful reader of NationStates? NOT ONE. The Germans documented everything in meticulous detail from shrubbery to arbors, but no pre-war or wartime plans or documents exist that detail or even mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All documents ever presented were drawn up AFTER the war.

Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million Jews!

Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the diary were written with a ball point pen. These pens were not in use at the time Anne Frank lived.

It is not denied concentration camps existed. Tragically, many died of typhus or starvation, as often happens in such situations. There is, however, no evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of genocide.

Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than to any other country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion per year, everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to Israel, every family in America(yes, even your family, my trusty, slanderous readers :rolleyes: ) could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz. Surely the American people would be outraged if they realized their hard-earned money is being squandered in these difficult times.

With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to comprehend why this Holocaust hoax is so secretly guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is "Shoah." In Zionist circles, it is known as "Shoah Business." If nothing else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates the irrepressible Zionist influence and control of our country. Their only defense against the facts is to cry out "antisemitic," "Skinhead" or "Nazi," whereas the majority of those who question the Holocaust are ordinary citizens...though you would never know it from the media.

In whatever way you can, please help shatter this profitable myth. You, the people of this forum have a chance. It is time we stop sacrificing America's and the World's welfare for the sake of Israel and spend our hard-earned dollars on Our own people.

So how much of a toll do you charge the billy goats?

Wait, wait, wait, wait...

Did you just accuse the Holocaust, the single worst bit of genocide against Jews to ever occur, as being part of a ZIONEST CONSPIRACY?! That killing six million+ of their own people was part of a grab for power?!

Okay. You have, officially, now and forever more, stated the single most ridiculous thing ever said on NationStates. Period.

THANKYOU!:p

Please note I was taking the piss though, it was at the bottom of the post in the edit bit

That's not a new theory. I've seen it on here before, much to my amusement.

WHAT?!?:eek:

you mean people actually believe something like what i wrote???:confused:

damn...just damn

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/NuGo1988/threadlich.jpg

My mate sent me this and I thought it was quite interesting. Apparently Hitler and Wittgenstein went to the same elementary school together. At this school, Hitler first developed his anti-semitism and his burgeoning rants were directed toward Wittgenstein. Hitler even mentions Wittgenstein the child in Mein Kamf. Nevertheless, Wittgenstein gets his revenge by cracking the enigma code, which is integral to the downfall of Hitler. Here's the link,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jew_of_Linz

and there's more interesting stuff concerning Wittgenstein and Russian spies. Who knew that despairing neurotic like Wittgenstein was involved in these affairs.

I love Wittgenstein, I was so happy when I read what you posted. I was worried someone had found some link to Hitler and Witty that made Witty look bad.
The man is one of my all time heroes, he is absolutely great.
..fanboy of philosophy....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/NuGo1988/threadlich.jpg

dude a bit of resuscitation only.

Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers(which is a total crock of crap), not one body has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning.

Care to give an example of a source claiming that six million died in the gas chambers? You're fighting a straw man here - the six million figure is for the total number of Jews killed.

Care to give an example of a source claiming that six million died in the gas chambers? You're fighting a straw man here - the six million figure is for the total number of Jews killed.

*passes BWO a Torch*

Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax, even you friendly users of this forum.

Have you considered the 7.65 mm Luger method of opening your mind yet?

*passes BWO a Torch*

Fighting revionists schmucks on NS? I've been here too many times before. Time to pass this torch on to someone younger...

Hint for whomsoever lifts up that flame: the 'gas chambers' of Auschwitz were rebuilt by the Soviets, and so it is unsurprising that no traces of gas would be detectable.

Heck, any minute now I expect a repost of that article about the decreasing count of deaths at Auschwitz...

THANKYOU!:p

Please note I was taking the piss though, it was at the bottom of the post in the edit bit
I couldn't tell you why, but at work today i was thinkingthe exact same thing.
What if it was a hoax, not just the pictures all the starving Jews but the Soviet Soldiers that escaped from their camps to tell 'normal' POW's in other camps, what about the stories Kiwi soldiers told after their death march experiences at the end of the war?

Why would they lie?

Stuff...

I wasn't aware that the NAZI's used Cyanide to gas the Jews, i thought they used Xyclon B, unless it is the same thing...
But heh

And the British had Ballpoint pens...

Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than to any other country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion per year, everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to Israel, every family in America(yes, even your family, my trusty, slanderous readers ) could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz.
We give money to Israel to punish them for Holocaust gassings? That makes perfect sense. :p
Your maths is a teensy little bit off. 35 billion dollars is enough to give every family in America about four hundred dollars. Perhaps enough to purchase a fancy remote-controlled toy Mercedes Benz.
6 million people do not happen to die of starvation and disease in such a short period of time. If they do, there's no other explanation than deliberately killing them through starvation and disease- ie genocide.
What do you think happened to six million people who suddenly disappeared within a few years? Taken by the World Zionist Conspiracy to Mars, perhaps, or the Lost City of Atlantis? Magically spirited away by Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy?

And the British had Ballpoint pens...

There were two loose leaf sheets of paper in the diary which had ballpoint pen writing on them: they were not part of the text of the diary, but notes made by someone investigating the diary postwar.

Ever since I was a teenager I have been interested in the "holocaust". It was not some perverse love of dead bodies and gas chambers that did it, but rather the inconsistencies I kept reading about. Much like reading the Bible when I was growing up, there was always a contradiction in different parts of the story to amuse me.

Ever since I have been digging into the "holocaust" history and I have become fascinated by the Jewish people, their modern defences against prejudice from non-Jews, their ability to work their way up the chains of command with surprising speed, and all the other things that make them so hated by so many people.

This article will be dedicated to figuring out the modern day population of the Jewish people and how many really died in the "Holocaust".

Most of the early data I have taken from the Jewish holy book - the Torah, as possible evidence.


2000 BC (est) = 3,154,000 (Joshua and the Levites)

971 BC (est) = 5,000,000 (King David's Census, based on 1,300,000 males over 20)

58 BC (est) = 4,200,000 (Adolf Harnack 1902 Estimate - considered excessive)

50 AD (est) = 600,000 (Publius Cornelius Tacitus)

100 AD (est) = 1,100,000 (Flavius Josephus)

1170 AD (est) = 1,049,565 (Benjamin of Tudela - considered low)

Between 1000 - 1500 (Recorded 380,000 Killed In Expulsion from Europe)

1500 AD (est) = 1,000,000

1700 AD (est) = 1,000,000 (Jacques Basnage)

1828 AD (est) = 4,947,000 (French-Jewish Almanac)

1829 AD (est) = 4,000,000 (Balbi)

1830 AD (est) = 3,500,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1833 AD (est) = 6,598,000 (Hörschelman)

1846 AD (est) = 3,143,000 (Jost)

1854 AD (est) = 4,000,000 (Berghaus)

1857 AD (est) = 3,900,000 (Boudin)

1868 AD (est) = 4,550,000 (Legoyt)

1870 AD (est) = 6,798,029 (Alexander)

1879 AD (est) = 6,276,957 (I. Loeb)

1881 AD (est) = 6,193,662 (Andree)

1881 AD (est) = 6,200,000 (Encyclopædia Britannica, 1881)

1883 AD (est) = 6,136,662 (Heckler)

1887 AD (est) = 6,582,500 (A. Nossig)

1896 AD (est) = 9,066,534 (J. Jacobs)

1900 AD = 11,273,076 (Calculated by Census Data)

1901 AD (est) = 11,206,849 (Jewish Encyclopedia)

1902 AD (est) = 10,319,402 (I. Harris)

1904 AD (est) = 10,456,000 (A. Ruppin)

1905 AD (est) = 10,932,777 (American Jewish Yearbook, 1904-1905)

1920 AD (est) = 14,500,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1933 AD (est) = 17,000,000 (Anderson, Norman - The World's Religions)

1934 AD (est) = 15,700,000 (Ferm, Vergilius - An Encyclopedia of Religion)

1942 AD (est) = 18,000,000 (Oxtoby, Willard G - The Meaning of Other Faiths)

1942 AD (est) = 16,030,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1942 AD (est) = 18,000,000 (Palmer, Spencer J. & Roger R. Keller.- Religions of the World)

1942 - 1945 ("Holocaust" / Shoah / die Endlösung -6,200,000)

1945 AD (est) = 11,000,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1950 AD (est) = 11,297,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1960 AD (est) = 12,079,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1970 AD (est) = 12,585,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1980 AD (est) = 12,819,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

1990 AD (est) = 12,868,000 (American Jewish Yearbook)

2000 AD (est) = 13,212,500 (American Jewish Yearbook)

2001 AD (est) = 13,252,100 (American Jewish Yearbook)

2002 AD = 13,296,100 (World Census)

2005 AD (est) = 14,596,017 (American Jewish Yearbook)

2010 AD (est) = 15,979,534 (Projected population based on 2005 to 2005
trend)





It should be easy to note that the last figure given by the American Jewish Yearbook is grossly over exaggerated.

As you can also see, if it wasn't for the data between 1900 and 1938, then you would have a horizontal line showing a constant growth period over the last 180 years. What is interesting is that within the 100 years between 1838 and 1938 it is claimed that the Jewish population only grew four fold from 3.5 million to 15 million. This is statistically not possible as it would mean they had less than 3 children per Jewish couple for five generations (1 generation being 20 years approximately), in a time when large families were the norm.

This does not add allow for death before reproductive age like accidents and wars either.

Most of the statistical sources also state that the Jewish people are leaving their faith due to "mixed marriages" with Christians. Another possible reason is that due to oppression against the Jewish people, the Jewish people are no longer calling themselves Jewish. This was not possible in the past as they were restricted from converting by their faith, but in the last 30 years of liberalism within the Jewish community.

[Ed: It is interesting to note that the media, entertainment industry, Jewish pressure groups and the "history" books lead us to believe that during 1942 to 1945, that 6 Million Jews allegedly perished but as we can see from the above information supplied by Jewish scholars themselves is quite on the contrary.]

Nova Vinlandia, I strongly recommend (hint, hint, that means it's not really a request) that you stop bumping this thread and start your own if you feel the need to keep posting those long-winded things.

And make sure it's not just a copy and paste either. This forum is for sharing your views, so do so by at the very least commenting on the content of articles or essays or excerpts that you post here.

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HotRodia

There were two loose leaf sheets of paper in the diary which had ballpoint pen writing on them: they were not part of the text of the diary, but notes made by someone investigating the diary postwar.
I am sure British Bomber crews were issued with ballpoints because they were good at high altitude, and that doesn't mean the common man couldn't have them.

In any case...
I'd had never heard of this questioning of the autheticity of the diaries before.

I also struggle to understand why people deny the holocaust/Final Solution, is it out of shame because it was a failure?

It is a rather negative attitude,a real Nazi would be like.
"We halted the spread of international Jewry."
But no.

Nova Vinlandia, I strongly recommend (hint, hint, that means it's not really a request) that you stop bumping this thread and start your own if you feel the need to keep posting those long-winded things.

And make sure it's not just a copy and paste either. This forum is for sharing your views, so do so by at the very least commenting on the content of articles or essays or excerpts that you post here.

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HotRodiaMy last 2 posts ARE my words, please read them closer.