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I'll be off to Best Buy later this afternoon, on a mission to purchase either Civilization 4 or Company of Heroes. I still haven't made up my mind; each is the same price, and each has fabulous reviews everywhere I look. Any of you have any thoughts?

Age of Empires III

While I have never played Company of Heroes I would get that, its a lot more intensive that previous games of its genre, as for civ 4 I've never palyed any of them so I don't know.

I know one of the earlier version of Civ and I don't know Company, so I'd go with the former.

Civilization 4

The only Civilization I've played was the first one, way back in the day. Still the best game I've ever played, but I don't know how true the new one is to the series three games and a decade later.

Civ4.

It's a big improvement on the admittedly disappointing Civ3, and the best turn-based strategy I've played since Alpha Centauri.

Noteworthy, I think, is Civ4's inclusion of two different types of difficulty sliders. The first is the classic difficulty adjustment that grants the AI benefits or changes relative rates of technological advancement, but the other changes the relative speed of different aspects of the game, thus handing an advantage to one playstyle over another, but without changing the game's mechanics.

Plus, I just really hate RTS games.

Plus, I just really hate RTS games.

How come?

St Jello Biafra;11984548']I'll be off to Best Buy later this afternoon, on a mission to purchase either Civilization 4 or Company of Heroes. I still haven't made up my mind; each is the same price, and each has fabulous reviews everywhere I look. Any of you have any thoughts?


Depends what you like. Do you prefer:

CoH:
more intensive micromanagement, lovely graphics, the ability to see instant results to your actions. Do you prefer more 'traditional' RTS games? Are very action-packed games important to you?


Civ4:
more detailed gameplay, many different options, and long games. Are graphics not important, and do you mind not seeing much action? Is complexity important to you?

Of course, you could just go the easy way and download demos of both the games off fileplanet, then try them out.

medieval 2

Get a dreamcast.

Both, or neither. No half measures!

civ4. no contest.

Ooh, I have both, and they are both pretty nice. I dont play Civ4 anymore (because Medival:Total War is my favorite turn based game series ever.)

I would...suggest Civ4. It has better replay value I think. CoH has the tendency to get frustrating sometimes, especially for someone used to turn based games. You have to micromanage FAST, and you cant blink, or you will lose caputure points. =( CoH is a lot more intense because of that though.

St Jello Biafra;11984641']How come?

It's the frantic nature of the action. I find such games rather stressful. I want my decisions to impact the outcome of the game, not my physical skill.

Plus, RTS games typically don't reward a passive defensive strategy, and that's what I like to employ.

I'll have to say that Civ III rocks Civ IV's socks off, so I'd go company of heroes.

I'll have to say that Civ III rocks Civ IV's socks off,

you're joking, right?

civ 4


i don't know the other game but civ4 rocked

you're joking, right?

Nope, not at all. After so many years of Civ III I couldn't get used to Civ IV, I despised the graphical style and the scale was far too small and too fast for my tastes.

civ 4. or several bottles of wine, or several books, or a couple of pairs of shoes, or some really yummy food, or about 8 crates of beer, or 6 dvds from hmv, or a new pair of jeans, or 4 new albums.

But... Civ3 blew. The game would cheat badly when behind, and technological superiority in combat wasn't worth hardly anything (when Panzers can't take spearmen, something's wrong).

I got to Civ3 after spending a couple of years playing Alpha Centauri. The juxtaposition made Civ3 look awful.

But... Civ3 blew. The game would cheat badly when behind, and technological superiority in combat wasn't worth hardly anything (when Panzers can't take spearmen, something's wrong).

I got to Civ3 after spending a couple of years playing Alpha Centauri. The juxtaposition made Civ3 look awful.

You see, from my point of view, the pace and scale of Civ 3 were what I liked. Sure, it needed a better dice decider system, god knows that, but so much of Civ IV is not quite as enjoyable to me. And the graphics. I really don't like the more digital look of civ four, rather I prefer the kind of rounded, fuzzy look of three.

You see, from my point of view, the pace and scale of Civ 3 were what I liked. Sure, it needed a better dice decider system, god knows that, but so much of Civ IV is not quite as enjoyable to me. And the graphics. I really don't like the more digital look of civ four, rather I prefer the kind of rounded, fuzzy look of three.

Three was awesome. I haven't played four, because it would probably kill my crappy computer. Sometimes, Freecell kills my crappy computer.:(

Three was awesome. I haven't played four, because it would probably kill my crappy computer. Sometimes, Freecell kills my crappy computer.:(

I know the feeling.

Civ4 is a great game, and so is Company of Heroes.

The former is awesome strategically, the latter has more tactics and action.

Like someone said before, I think a good alternative to the two might be Medieval 2, which has both.

Civ4!

You see, from my point of view, the pace and scale of Civ 3 were what I liked. Sure, it needed a better dice decider system, god knows that, but so much of Civ IV is not quite as enjoyable to me. And the graphics. I really don't like the more digital look of civ four, rather I prefer the kind of rounded, fuzzy look of three.
Civ4's default speed is way too fast - I'll grant that. I always play these games on the biggest possible worlds, and since I liked Alpha Centauri I tend to run games with 7 civs. Marathon speed, 7 civs, and a huge world really do improve Civ4's pacing.

I also found Civ3 really difficult, and I could never figure out why.

Get a dreamcast.
And Rez.

I own Civ IV and I enjoy playing it.

I'm banking on Civ IV coming down in price before CoH, i think you should/'ve bbuy/bought Company of Hero's.

I'd recommend Civ 4, but only if your computer is pretty far above the system requirements. A lot of people have had a lot of problems with it, including me. It takes me several minutes (up to 15) to load each turn, and my computer is just at the requirements, or a bit above.

But it's still a great game.

I also found Civ3 really difficult, and I could never figure out why.

Because Civ3 is really difficult. There's so much that you have to deal with in the game that it's some combination of confusing and awesome.

Of course, I'm the guy who continues to play Metroid, because, no matter how many times I've played it, it's still hard.

Three was awesome. I haven't played four, because it would probably kill my crappy computer. Sometimes, Freecell kills my crappy computer.:(

I couldnt stand 3, but I liked all the others. 2 is the best, then 4.

buy medieval 2!!! or just download all of them.

I've played all 4 Civs, and until I got Civ IV was still hitting Civ II.
I used to play Civ I almost full time when I first got it (oh, 12 years ago?!).
Civ II was better than Civ I simply because of the graphics.
Civ III was crap and drove me back to Civ II.
Civ IV is awesome. I force myself not to load it up, cause I know I'm going to be in for a long night if/when I do.

I've played all 4 Civs, and until I got Civ IV was still hitting Civ II.
I used to play Civ I almost full time when I first got it (oh, 12 years ago?!).
Civ II was better than Civ I simply because of the graphics.
Civ III was crap and drove me back to Civ II.
Civ IV is awesome. I force myself not to load it up, cause I know I'm going to be in for a long night if/when I do.
Civ II is the most Social-life destructing game i hav ever played.

All of the Civilization games sucked ass. In fact, all Turn-Based-Strategy games suck ass. It's a horrible genre. The few good parts to it were given to Rise of Nations, creating a wonderful RTS that has thus far exceeded anything created after it, so far as I'm concerned, though I do like Rise of Legends, if only for the quirkiness of the Vinci.

But then, I have odd taste in games, so what do I know?

All of the Civilization games sucked ass. In fact, all Turn-Based-Strategy games suck ass. It's a horrible genre.
Yeah!! Chess would be so much better if it were real time!!!!1

Yeah!! Chess would be so much better if it were real time!!!!1

...

Alright, let me rephrase: all video game TBS games suck. I've found each and every one to be boring.

Chess, on the other hand, is quite fun.

Civ4's default speed is way too fast - I'll grant that. I always play these games on the biggest possible worlds, and since I liked Alpha Centauri I tend to run games with 7 civs. Marathon speed, 7 civs, and a huge world really do improve Civ4's pacing.

I also found Civ3 really difficult, and I could never figure out why.Can't you play Civ 4 with more than 7 civs? On Civ 3, you could play with 16, and then get the one expansion and play with 24.

In order of how I'd spend the money, were it mine:

Company of Heros
AoE3
Rise of Nations + expansion + pot
Medieval 2
pot
EA War Games Collection (BF1942+RtR, BFVietnam, MoH Allied Assault, MoH Pacific Assault)
Doom 3 and Quake 4 from the discount bin
Civ 4

Can't you play Civ 4 with more than 7 civs? On Civ 3, you could play with 16, and then get the one expansion and play with 24.
Sure. I think it goes to 16. The default game setting is 11 civs/game.

I turn it down because I don't enjoy war. I'm the guy who just builds tech and never fights anyone except to nuke them.

St Jello Biafra;11984548']I'll be off to Best Buy later this afternoon, on a mission to purchase either Civilization 4 or Company of Heroes. I still haven't made up my mind; each is the same price, and each has fabulous reviews everywhere I look. Any of you have any thoughts?

You will get tired of Civ 4 pretty fast. I did. Try Heroes of Might and Magic IV...you can play that shit FOREVER...until you finish it. Also it gets very hard.

I turn it down because I don't enjoy war. I'm the guy who just builds tech and never fights anyone except to nuke them.

Hey, me too! I prefer Space Race, actually...or culture win.

Hey, me too! I prefer Space Race, actually...or culture win.
I was trying for a cultural victory in my last game, but I got bored and went with Diplomatic.

I find that an attempt at a Space Race victory either succeeds or fails in the first 30 turns or so - you just don't know which until the end of the game.