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So the report commissioned by the Government has just been released recommending a gradual power shift from fossil fuels to nuclear power generation. Since Howards recent 'conversion' to the global warming club, he seems intent that nuclear power generation is the key to cutting our greenhouse gas emissions, even though we never ratified Kyoto. Recently State Premiers have all come foward and basically said 'Not in my backyard, no way', but with Australias uranium reserves and vast areas to put the waste, I think it maybe alright.

Australia is getting nukes?

QUICK! We must INVADE them!

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So the report commissioned by the Government has just been released recommending a gradual power shift from fossil fuels to nuclear power generation. Since Howards recent 'conversion' to the global warming club, he seems intent that nuclear power generation is the key to cutting our greenhouse gas emissions, even though we never ratified Kyoto. Recently State Premiers have all come foward and basically said 'Not in my backyard, no way', but with Australias uranium reserves and vast areas to put the waste, I think it maybe alright.


if we said no to it are we going to get if we like or not just like WA getting day light saving and we said no to it three times

Good. Nuclear power is safer and cleaner than fossil fuels.

I really doubt that the UNSC is going to be frightened of the australians having nucleur ability. They have always seemed very sensible people, and everyone but that other country no one even cares about, like them.

I personally support the greener alternatives.

I really doubt that the UNSC is going to be frightened of the canadians having nucleur ability. They have always seemed very sensible people, and everyone but that other country no one even cares about, like them.

Well you know, the Germans always seemed like very sensible people. And they are. They were. Doesn't mean their government can't ever be dangerous, though, eh?

Good. Nuclear power is safer and cleaner than fossil fuels.

Heah, heah!

I really doubt that the UNSC is going to be frightened of the canadians having nucleur ability. They have always seemed very sensible people, and everyone but that other country no one even cares about, like them.

Australians are not Canadians.

It's an excellent idea. Australia should also encourage development of solar, wind, and tidal energy to further reduce dependence on nonrenewable and fossil fuel sources as well as encourage domestic clean energy and nuclear industries.

Australians are not Canadians.

I know, as I was thinking "sensible" and "well-liked", it struck me that Canada was that way too, must have slipped into my words while I was writing. Not the first time i've done this though.

Heah, heah!
It's true.

Nuclear power plants also release less radiation into the atmosphere.

I know, as I was thinking "sensible" and "well-liked", it struck me that Canada was that way too, must have slipped into my words while I was writing. Not the first time i've done this though.
Well... Canadians are very generic and could pass for Australians. People already mistake us for Americans! :p

Well... Canadians are very generic and could pass for Australians. People already mistake us for Americans! :p
I don't mind the Australian mixup so much. They've got cool accents.

Well... Canadians are very generic and could pass for Australians. People already mistake us for Americans! :p

yer right and i was not chase by a Emu when i was a kid

Maybe Australians and NZers could be mistaken, we have a slightly similar culture and humour, but Australian and Americans (sorry dont really know much about Canadians, apart from that they always try to define themselves apart from US) are polar opposite, we might as well be from different planets. I have a friend who now lives in New Mexico who managed to get a job in a tourist shop, only to be put in the Australian section because of his surposed accent:) .

Maybe Australians and NZers could be mistaken, we have a slightly similar culture and humour, but Australian and Americans (sorry dont really know much about Canadians, apart from that they always try to define themselves apart from US) are polar opposite, we might as well be from different planets. I have a friend who now lives in New Mexico who managed to get a job in a tourist shop, only to be put in the Australian section because of his surposed accent:) .

ok next person who say that gets a bat to the head
heres how to tell a NZ from a Australian get them to say six
its a joke we play on them

I don't mind the Australian mixup so much. They've got cool accents.

Them and their... 'roos! :eek:

Sounds like a plan. Though it'll take decades, according to the report.

Meanwhile, they finished the agreement in Europe on building the first fusion reactor (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6165932.stm). Albeit an experimental one.

Somehow I think that this might have drifted a bit off topic

I wish the government would invest such money in renewable sources too. We have heaps of bloody sunlight, (much of the country is in drought at the moment) surely that could be put to good use.

Yeah, do you want some of our rain, or would you rather make more solar panels and stop using fossil fuels altogether :p

But seriously, sucks about the drought, hope you get nuclear energy.

Australia has a dessert (thus lots of sun and space) and a wildlife that would welcome the shade why on Earth would they need Nuclear?

And Australia has evil Koalas do not trust them with anything if you know what’s good for you!!!

Australia has a dessert (thus lots of sun and space) and a wildlife that would welcome the shade why on Earth would they need Nuclear?

And Australia has evil Koalas do not trust them with anything if you know what’s good for you!!!

Our current government is idealogically driven towards funding nuclear energy program, yet is fundamentally opposed to a similar commitment to renewable energy sources. Bunch of short sighted wankers.

Not entirely sure about the koala thing though.

I for one welcome our new Mutant Kangaroo Overlords.

Renewable power isn't particularly cost effective yet, and it requires less intermittent sources of power to back it up.

Currently Australia has very cheap electricity compared to the rest of the world, but power intensive industries like aluminium smelting (where about 30% of the cost involved is represented by electricy) could relocate if it the cheap electricity produced by Australia's large reserves of inexpensive (yet very polluting) brown coal were replaced with expensive solar or wind sources.

Nuclear power is the only economically realistic replacement for coal in Australia if we are going to confront global warming, at least until renewable technology matures. It wouldn't make sense not to exploit our large reserves of uranium.

Well you know, the Germans always seemed like very sensible people. And they are. They were. Doesn't mean their government can't ever be dangerous, though, eh?

I really can't see the Aussies getting into any offensive wars...

Hell - why do we need more land? We got the best place on the planet already - conquering somewhere else would just lower the average standard.

And defensive wars... Aussies seem pretty well liked. We don't generally go pissing off people who have nothing to do with us.

e.g.

East Timor and Australia agreed in 2005 to defer the disputed portion of the boundary for fifty years and to split hydrocarbon revenues evenly outside the Joint Petroleum Development Area covered by the 2002 Timor Sea Treaty.

See - it's like "Well - we could spend a while arguing about this - but the cricket is on and we want to see the Poms get thrashed. Lets just let this rest for half a century then come back to it in a few generations. By which time the generally agreed temporary boarder will be pretty much established as a permanent boundary."

It's an excellent idea. Australia should also encourage development of solar, wind, and tidal energy to further reduce dependence on nonrenewable and fossil fuel sources as well as encourage domestic clean energy and nuclear industries.

As I am the only South Australian that I know that comes here, it is my job to point out that we are apparently leading the way in renewable energy. Our target is also 20% by 2014. Also our Premier doesn't want a reactor in this state, but increasing the size of an already huge uranium mine is fine by him.

yer right and i was not chase by a Emu when i was a kid

Neither was I :confused:

Renewable power isn't particularly cost effective yet, and it requires less intermittent sources of power to back it up.

Currently Australia has very cheap electricity compared to the rest of the world, but power intensive industries like aluminium smelting (where about 30% of the cost involved is represented by electricy) could relocate if it the cheap electricity produced by Australia's large reserves of inexpensive (yet very polluting) brown coal were replaced with expensive solar or wind sources.

Nuclear power is the only economically realistic replacement for coal in Australia if we are going to confront global warming, at least until renewable technology matures. It wouldn't make sense not to exploit our large reserves of uranium.


wow a victorian that knows what they are talking about

wow a victorian that knows what they are talking about

*high fives*

Them and their... 'roos! :eek:

'Freakishly large bouncing mice'

Been looking for somewhere to use that since I heard the Al Murry dvd the other night. Thaks for the opportunity

On topic - It makes perfect sense for the Aussies to use nuclear power, lots of uranium and lots of space for waste away from population centres.

Johnny Howards real grand plan - USA lets Australia build nuke reactors and then the USA dumps all it's waste in the Northern Territory.

I really can't see the Aussies getting into any offensive wars...
*evil laughter*

Johnny Howards real grand plan - USA lets Australia build nuke reactors and then the USA dumps all it's waste in the Northern Territory.
Well, it's not like there's any sentient life there... :D

On-topic, nuclear power is a good thing, although we should be and are trying to focus more on renewable energy too.

I really can't see the Aussies getting into any offensive wars...

What are we going to fight a war with, all we've got are outdated tanks and aircraft that by all rights should be in a museum. And that's the stuff that actually works.

On the other hand we have a decent standard service rifle.

*evil laughter*


We're a bit more stuble than that...

To the our former colonial masters - the English - our agents are teaching in almost every school... we have operatives in almost every bar/pub/club in england... lately we ahve been extending infulence by putting out brave men and women into finance and law throughout the UK... and we deaden your senses with crap beer and mind numbing television shows

We watch over your children while you are at work... we keep a sober eye on you when you are drunk... and we manage your bank accounts and legal affairs... while brainwashing you through subliminal messages in pop and television... The day will soon come!!!

Muahh ha ha muh ahhahaaah!!!!

What are we going to fight a war with, all we've got are outdated tanks and aircraft that by all rights should be in a museum. And that's the stuff that actually works.

On the other hand we have a decent standard service rifle.
Our new Abramses and F-35s are arriving just in time to assist in the establishment of the Glorious Australian World Hegemony then, are they not?

Our new Abramses and F-35s are arriving just in time to assist in the establishment of the Glorious Australian World Hegemony then, are they not?

Keep it down or they attack us before we're ready ;)

I cannot think of a more appropriate country than Australia to invest in nuclear power. Huge areas of the country are uninhabited (one guy in a hut in the middle of miles of desert is not inhabitation), meaning that even if there was a meltdown (which is incredibly unlikely if you actually invest a tiny bit into your technology) it would hardly even be noticed.

A nuclear meltdown in the least inhabited parts of Australia would cause less immediate casualties than a car crash could cause in the most inhabited parts of Australia.

I cannot think of a more appropriate country than Australia to invest in nuclear power. Huge areas of the country are uninhabited (one guy in a hut in the middle of miles of desert is not inhabitation), meaning that even if there was a meltdown (which is incredibly unlikely if you actually invest a tiny bit into your technology) it would hardly even be noticed.

A nuclear meltdown in the least inhabited parts of Australia would cause less immediate casualties than a car crash could cause in the most inhabited parts of Australia.One problem. According to experts, we'd need to keep our reactors pretty close to the cities, so the whole "lotsa space" thing becomes somewhat of a moot point.

I don't see why everyone is getting so excited personally. None of the states are even remotely supportive of nuclear energy and woe betide any federal government who thinks they can force something as massive as this. State sovereignty is very highly regarded here.

P.S. 400th post! Hooray!

I cannot think of a more appropriate country than Australia to invest in nuclear power. Huge areas of the country are uninhabited (one guy in a hut in the middle of miles of desert is not inhabitation), meaning that even if there was a meltdown (which is incredibly unlikely if you actually invest a tiny bit into your technology) it would hardly even be noticed.

A nuclear meltdown in the least inhabited parts of Australia would cause less immediate casualties than a car crash could cause in the most inhabited parts of Australia.

Then were does the water come from?

Good point about the water. A new government survey has revealed that all major cities, outside of Hobart and Darwin, now have serious problems regarding water supply.

wow a victorian that knows what they are talking about

*high fives*

How rude. ;)

FC, I haven't seen you around for ages.