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Amnesty report: Both Israeli forces and Hizbullah guerrillas committed war crimes.

Gravlen
21-11-2006, 21:25
Amnesty has released a report - a follow up to their earlier work - on the earlier Israel-Hizbullah crizis. Not surprisingly it finds that both sides in the conflict committed war crimes.

Israeli forces and Hizbullah guerrillas committed war crimes by attacking civilians during their 34-day war in southern Lebanon earlier this year, Amnesty International said Tuesday.

In its third report on the conflict, the human rights group said Israeli forces were guilty of "indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks on a large scale."

The report also notes the war crimes committed by Hizbullah fighters.
The 70-page report recalled the findings of an earlier Amnesty report that Hizbullah fighters also committed serious breaches of international humanitarian law. Their war crimes, the report said, included indiscriminate and direct attacks on civilians.

Hizbullah fighters, the report said, "also appear not to have taken necessary precautions to protect civilians in Lebanon from the effects of Israeli attacks."

Evidence studied for the new report, "suggests that, in at least some cases, Hizbullah fighters stored Katyusha rockets within villages and fired from civilian areas, although the extent of such conduct is not clear," the report said.

The report itself is quite interesting, and can be found here (http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engmde020332006).



So to sum up, in 34 days:
1,191 civilians – hundreds of them children – had been killed and more than 4,400 injured in Israeli attacks.

Hizbullah rocket attacks led to the deaths of 43 civilians in Israel.

Around a million people were displaced in Lebanon, and an estimated 200,000 Lebanese are believed to be still displaced.

Around 300,000 residents of northern Israel were displaced for the duration of the hostilities.

Tens of thousands of homes in Lebanon were destroyed or damaged, and extensive damage was caused to orchards, agricultural estates, factories and infrastructure in Lebanon.

Hizbullah rocket attacks caused widespread damage to buildings in northern Israel.

Hizbullah fighters fired an estimated 4,000 rockets into northern Israel, including rockets armed with ball-bearings for maximum damage to people and rockets reportedly armed with cluster weapons.

Israeli forces used cluster bombs and white phosphorous munitions in civilian areas. Up to one million unexploded cluster bomblets now litter south Lebanon and continue to kill and injure civilians.

Israeli authorities have given the figure of 117 Israeli soldiers killed.

According to Hizbullah, 74 of its fighters were killed. Israel maintains it has the names of 500 Hizbullah fighters killed, although it has not released these names.

Four members of Lebanon’s internal security forces and some 40 Lebanese soldiers were killed in Israeli strikes, even though the Lebanese security and armed forces did not participate in the fighting.


And still the kidnapped Israeli soldiers are being held...
Trotskylvania
21-11-2006, 21:27
Wow, big shocker. :rolleyes:
Gravlen
21-11-2006, 21:34
Wow, big shocker. :rolleyes:

Not as much shocking as interesting.

well, it might be a shocker to the few who claim that war crimes by the Hizbullah always goes unnoticed...
Trotskylvania
21-11-2006, 21:36
Not as much shocking as interesting.

well, it might be a shocker to the few who claim that war crimes by the Hizbullah always goes unnoticed...

People seldom win wars, but governments seldom lose them.
Ollieland
21-11-2006, 21:36
Not as much shocking as interesting.

well, it might be a shocker to the few who claim that war crimes by the Hizbullah always goes unnoticed...

Not really, they'll just claim that Hizbullah's crimes are somehow worse than Isreals, instead of just condemning them both equally and roundly.
Icovir
21-11-2006, 21:36
Hizballah commited war crimes, and so did Israel. The only thing is that the United States will still condemn only Hizballah and pretend that Israel was defending themselves from "terrorists capable of completely destroying their safety". Just Iraq, right?
Arthais101
21-11-2006, 21:37
Not really, they'll just claim that Hizbullah's crimes are somehow worse than Isreals, instead of just condemning them both equally and roundly.

oh but it'll go the other way too...the innocent oppressed lebanese who are just striking out at their evil overlords.
Ollieland
21-11-2006, 21:38
oh but it'll go the other way too...the innocent oppressed lebanese who are just striking out at their evil overlords.

Oh I agree. Neither the right or left wing have the monopoly on hypocrisy.
Trotskylvania
21-11-2006, 21:38
oh but it'll go the other way too...the innocent oppressed lebanese who are just striking out at their evil overlords.

I think both groups need to seriously grow up and stop spilling innocent blood over worthless land and uncertain ownership.
Arthais101
21-11-2006, 21:41
Oh I agree. Neither the right or left wing have the monopoly on hypocrisy.

careful with that, "pro israel" does not equate to "right wing", and while there are certainly more conservatives who support israel than their are democrats, there are plenty of folks, like me, who are both pro israel and liberal.
Soviestan
21-11-2006, 21:42
I think both groups need to seriously grow up and stop spilling innocent blood over worthless land and uncertain ownership.

The land is far from worthless, it is very holy.
Ollieland
21-11-2006, 21:42
careful with that, "pro israel" does not equate to "right wing", and while there are certainly more conservatives who support israel than their are democrats, there are plenty of folks, like me, who are both pro israel and liberal.

Again I agree. Not trying to label anyone, just stating the hypocrisy thing.
Trotskylvania
21-11-2006, 21:43
The land is far from worthless, it is very holy.

Is it really all that holy if it is responsible for so much spilled blood? I'd say it's more demonic than holy. Sorry, rantings of a pious apostate.
Arinola
21-11-2006, 21:43
Hizballah commited war crimes, and so did Israel. The only thing is that the United States will still condemn only Hizballah and pretend that Israel was defending themselves from "terrorists capable of completely destroying their safety". Just Iraq, right?

Actually,I wonder what the USA will say to this report?
Arthais101
21-11-2006, 21:44
The land is far from worthless, it is very holy.

the shaba farms? An area roughly the size of Boston proper that has no real historical or religious importance? A "very holy" land that the Lebanese government made no claim to prior to the 90s?

Bullshit. It didn't seem to bother the Lebanese any when this "very special holy land" was in the hands of Syria...just as long as the jews don't touch it.

Whether or not Israeli occupancy of the Shaba districts is legitimate or not, this is an israeli/syrian problem, not an issue for a lebanese liberation group. Claiming "ownership" of the Shaba farms, a claim of ownership that never manifested when Syria held it, is just an excuse to mask the fact that in the end, they really just like killing jews.
Gravlen
21-11-2006, 21:45
Actually,I wonder what the USA will say to this report?

I won't be surprised if it is quietly ignored.
Yootopia
21-11-2006, 21:45
Actually,I wonder what the USA will say to this report?
"This is the work of French freedom-hating UN representatives who have abortions all the time despite being gay"
Trotskylvania
21-11-2006, 21:48
"This is the work of French freedom-hating UN representatives who have abortions all the time despite being gay"

"...and feminist-nazi-communists Pagan witches."
Soheran
21-11-2006, 21:54
Oh I agree. Neither the right or left wing have the monopoly on hypocrisy.

What on earth does supporting Hezbollah have to do with leftist politics?
Trotskylvania
21-11-2006, 21:57
What on earth does supporting Hezbollah have to do with leftist politics?

Absolutely nothing. DOn't bother, some people are beyond help.
Ollieland
21-11-2006, 22:01
What on earth does supporting Hezbollah have to do with leftist politics?

I refer you to the post i made not 5 minutes later
Quarantin
21-11-2006, 22:10
What on earth does supporting Hezbollah have to do with leftist politics?

leftist = anti-american = anti-israel = pro- hezbollah, right?
Icovir
21-11-2006, 22:12
"...and feminist-nazi-communists Pagan witches."

From what I've heard/experiened, it'll be: "It's the work of those dang Maw-zlams".