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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53023

PALM BEACH, Fla. – President Bush believes America should be more of an idea than an actual place, a Republican congressman told WND in an exclusive interview.

"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that – it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going."

On an unrelated note - nice nation name. :rolleyes:

This... coming from Mr. Bush himself. I am le confused.

I like that. Because the original idea I'm a fan of, not so much the actual entity it's become today.

And probably not of the idea that Bush personally thinks of when he says "America" either.

So... does this mean America is a religion?

America is an Ideal. Bush may finally have grasped that, after 6 years in office. I doubt he knows just what that Ideal is, though.

America is an Ideal. Bush may finally have grasped that, after 6 years in office. I doubt he knows just what that Ideal is, though.

Bush knows exactly what that ideal is. It's a society for the rich, by the rich, where everyone worships the same God, only has sex with people of the opposite gneder, never speaks out against order, and terrorists are not considered people.

Coincidentally, Bush is also wrong but he never lets the truth get the better of his gut instincts.

This... coming from Mr. Bush himself. I am le confused.

New World Order, silly! Hoo-hah!

Well, it's what Tom Tancredo said Bush said as reported by WingNut daily (I mean WorldNet Daily).

Wait, am I actually giving Bush the benefit of the doubt? I've got to go to bed--I've completely lost it. ;)

Well, it's what Tom Tancredo said Bush said as reported by WingNut daily (I mean WorldNet Daily).

Wait, am I actually giving Bush the benefit of the doubt? I've got to go to bed--I've completely lost it. ;)

lol

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"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

Bush is an internationalist allright. He's international when it comes to nations he wish for US to annex.

hmmm. I realize it's a biased source, but find me one that isn't.

It makes sense, with Gdub's whoring of domestic jobs, the US constitution, Imported mexiscum pseudo-slave labor.
Culture means nothing, Nation means nothing, Decency means nothing.
Money is everything.

Bush is the epitome of the our political weaknesses and failures as Americans.

Bush is an internationalist allright. He's international when it comes to nations he wish for US to annex.

bullshit. IF anything he annexing the states into some moribund union of socialists and 3rd worlders.

Money is everything.

No, but it ranks right up there with oxygen.

Bush knows exactly what that ideal is. It's a society for the rich, by the rich, where everyone worships the same God, only has sex with people of the opposite gneder, never speaks out against order, and terrorists are not considered people.


I realize you probably have the 'liberal' handicap to deal with,but lets see the forest for the trees here....
It's a society for the rich, by the rich,
right...he does that. Name a democrat that doesn't (beyond the lies about how they're 'the common man')
where everyone worships the same God We have those sorts of freedoms here, but Christianity is our populous majority and a democracy always represents that. (however Bush has overwhelmingly represented the Jewish POWER majority)
only has sex with people of the opposite gneder[sic],
and could you tell me what is wrong with that??? lol.
never speaks out against order,
Yeah, Bush is bad for that. He's a megalomaniac. It isn't right.
and terrorists are not considered people.
OK the torture thing...that was merely an attempt to cover his own ass. It probably is wrong, and many innocent will be punished. Such is the way of war.

I am, in the end, anti-Bush. He is a traitor to the nation and to Grand Ole' Party. He has no idea where he stands politically, and is an easy puppet for the highest dollar.

As much as I dislike Democratic politics, I can't wait to see them make Dub squirm.

Originally Posted by White Separatists View Post
Money is everything.
No, but it ranks right up there with oxygen.

And THAT is the epitome of our moral failures.

Imported mexiscum pseudo-slave labor.

Fuck off you racist fascist little shit.:upyours:

A mexican who risks everything and has to leave his family, friends and home to go and escape the massive levels of poverty in Mexico is so much more a better man than some resentful and wothless racist hick like yourself.

Culture means nothing, Nation means nothing, Decency means nothing.

Money is everything.

You know the biggest destroyers of real North American culture and societies were your beloved white race, dickshit. Remeber the Native Indians?:rolleyes:

Your no more and no less an immigrant than any Hispanic is in the US.

bullshit. IF anything he annexing the states into some moribund union of socialists and 3rd worlders.

What fucking planet are you on you fucking nazi wanker.

What socialism, go and get a fucking education, you don't even know the meaning of the word, shit for brains.

Actually better yet, go and follow your fucking idol, Hitler and blow your own brains out, or what little brain matter there is in your thick skull anyways.

Fuck off you racist fascist little shit.:upyours:

Blah Blah Blah...


Remember, no Flaming. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how controversial it may be.

Remember, no Flaming. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how controversial it may be.

Sorry I don't buy that for fascists/neo nazis or racists.

I have had RL friends who have had to sustain bad injuries from neo-nazi scum and white nationalist thugs, as far as I'm concerned fascists are fair game.

No apologies will be coming from me.

Wow, just because someone has a viewpoint differant than yours you have to freak out. You say some of your friends were hurt by white supremisists?

Sorry I don't buy that for fascists/neo nazis or racists.

I have had RL friends who have had to sustain bad injuries from neo-nazi scum and white nationalist thugs, as far as I'm concerned fascists are fair game.

No apologies will be coming from me.

Sorry, Flaming is not allowed. The mods to not take kindly to that stuff.

I realize you probably have the 'liberal' handicap to deal with,but lets see the forest for the trees here....

Let's not get into handicaps, alright?

(however Bush has overwhelmingly represented the Jewish POWER majority)

For the sake of Jesus and pals, please try to understand this important concept: there is no Jewish world conspiracy. The Hebrew people may seem disproportionately more successful because as a culture, they have placed a high value in education. In this world, there are only those who have, and those who don't have.

I am, in the end, anti-Bush. He is a traitor to the nation and to Grand Ole' Party. He has no idea where he stands politically, and is an easy puppet for the highest dollar.

Bush has only done what the GOP wanted and what his convictions dictated him to do. He is no traitor to the Republicans. That party has always stood for the wealthy elite.

Fuck off you racist fascist little shit.:upyours:

A mexican who risks everything and has to leave his family, friends and home to go and escape the massive levels of poverty in Mexico is so much more a better man than some resentful and wothless racist hick like yourself.



You know the biggest destroyers of real North American culture and societies were your beloved white race, dickshit. Remeber the Native Indians?:rolleyes:

Your no more and no less an immigrant than any Hispanic is in the US



What fucking planet are you on you fucking nazi wanker.

What socialism, go and get a fucking education, you don't even know the meaning of the word, shit for brains.

Actually better yet, go and follow your fucking idol, Hitler and blow your own brains out, or what little brain matter there is in your thick skull anyways.

Hmm, sounds like we got a little kid behind that monitor, just had to go and cause problems like a lot of other people.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53023

PALM BEACH, Fla. – President Bush believes America should be more of an idea than an actual place, a Republican congressman told WND in an exclusive interview.

"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that – it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going."

...and why is ANYONE listening to what Tancredo has to say? I voted against that guy in the midterm, and sadly, he was reelected. Trust me from personal experience he's a complete and utter jackass. Anything he has to say can be safely discounted.

On an unrelated note - nice nation name. :rolleyes:
You should be a bit more considerate before you pass judgement.
He (assuming he is a 'he') could well be a dessert chef specialising in making merringue and simply chose his name based on seperating his albumens from his yolks.

I'm sure there's other explanations, but for the life of me I can't think what.

For the sake of Jesus and pals, please try to understand this important concept: there is no Jewish world conspiracy.

WHAT!? :eek:

Sure, now they tell me! *tears up Protocols of the Elders of Zion* :mad:



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You should be a bit more considerate before you pass judgement.
He (assuming he is a 'he') could well be a dessert chef specialising in making merringue and simply chose his name based on seperating his albumens from his yolks.

ROFLMAO

*gives DH a cookie for making me chuckle* :D

For the sake of Jesus and pals, please try to understand this important concept: there is no Jewish world conspiracy.
Well, you would say that, wouldn't you, Almighty America-goldbergstein?

And I wouldn't ask you for one. (an apology)
however it is humorous that me, the horrible racist, is civil and relatively polite, whereas you, who would presumably preach tolerance, are extremely intolerant of my views!

For your information lass, I am neither a Nazi, a fascist, nor a racist. I am a racial realist, and none of the above.


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Imported mexiscum pseudo-slave labor.
Fuck off you racist fascist little shit.

A mexican who risks everything and has to leave his family, friends and home to go and escape the massive levels of poverty in Mexico is so much more a better man than some resentful and wothless racist hick like yourself.

Ok, some questions for you.
Why does this person deserve citizenship? What did his ancestors do to make my country great? Why should our tax dollars support his inadequacy? Why should my culture be diluted with elements from a foreign culture?

You know the biggest destroyers of real North American culture and societies were your beloved white race, dickshit. Remeber the Native Indians?

Yes, well, the natives suffered an unfortunate fate. They died of european diseases or were killed in battle. This is our land BECAUSE WE TOOK IT FROM THEM!!! It isn't nice, and it's barely fair, but it is the way of the world.

anything else?

Well, you would say that, wouldn't you, Almighty America-goldbergstein?

Watch what you say. You won't get far in NSG with un-kosher statements like that... :p

ROFLMAO

*gives DH a cookie for making me chuckle* :D
Chuckle-cookies: My favourite kind!
(puts on my best elvis voice), "Thank ya very much"



on a slightly serious note: Remember, the sooner we make fun of obvious trolls the sooner they'll vanish.

He (assuming he is a 'he') could well be a dessert chef specialising in making merringue and simply chose his name based on seperating his albumens from his yolks.
oh man that's fucking brilliant....never thunked that one...

on a slightly serious note: Remember, the sooner we make fun of obvious trolls the sooner they'll vanish.

I beg your pardon?

You should be a bit more considerate before you pass judgement.
He (assuming he is a 'he') could well be a dessert chef specialising in making merringue and simply chose his name based on seperating his albumens from his yolks.

I'm sure there's other explanations, but for the life of me I can't think what.

Bweeheehee...that was funny.

I am a racial realist,
So, then, you recognize that from a scientific standpoint there are only extremely minor genetic differences between ethnicities(usually just something simple like a slightly larger leg muscle) and that apart from these almost unnoticiable differences we're all the same species, all human, all deserve to be treated equally both under the law and in terms of personal relations?

Or do you mistakenly use the term realist when you really mean "racially ignorant"?

I am a racial realist, and none of the above.

Racist, racial realist. Biiiig fucking difference. :rolleyes:

So, then, you recognize that from a scientific standpoint there are only extremely minor genetic differences between ethnicities(usually just something simple like a slightly larger leg muscle)
Or the shape of the skull, or bone density, or susceptibility to disorders, diseases, and kind.

and that apart from these almost unnoticiable differences we're all the same species, all human, all deserve to be treated equally both under the law and in terms of personal relations?

Equality may be the law, but no power will ever make it reality.
Equal means exactly the same. No two races are that way.
I don't believe civil rights in my nation should be taken away from non-whites, I simply believe that they should not live here.

Racist, racial realist. Biiiig fucking difference.

sarcasm noted....

exactly! what is today called racism in fact a rational and realistic view!

thankyou!

I don't believe civil rights in my nation should be taken away from non-whites, I simply believe that they should not live here.

Great, so my half-brother, my adopted uncle, his kids, a large number of my friends, and even my g.f., shouldn't live here. Well, *bleep* you, too.

Bush is an internationalist allright. He's international when it comes to nations he wish for US to annex.

Well corporatism is an essentially internationalist philosophy. American consumers buy goods made in Chinese sweatshops owned by Caribean corporations owned by American citizens. Corporations aren't loyal to any country, including America, and Bush is loyal to corporations. Therefore, not loyal to America.

Well corporatism is an essentially internationalist philosophy. American consumers buy goods made in Chinese sweatshops owned by Caribean corporations owned by American citizens. Corporations aren't loyal to any country, including America, and Bush is loyal to corporations. Therefore, not loyal to America.

Reminds me of a good political cartoon from 1975. A bunch of corporate leaders have their hands over their hearts and say, "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the country which gives me the best deal."

Or the shape of the skull, or bone density, or susceptibility to disorders, diseases, and kind.



Equality may be the law, but no power will ever make it reality.
Equal means exactly the same. No two races are that way.
I don't believe civil rights in my nation should be taken away from non-whites, I simply believe that they should not live here.

As I said, such differences are hardly noticeable. They certainly don't make interbreeding a problem, so far as I can see. They are minute at best, and the only one I would even consider to be important would be disease susceptibility(and then, only so that the person would take greater care to avoid the disease in question.)

Simply put, we really are all human. I have to ask you why you seem to be so enamoured of people with pinkish skin, the so called Caucasians. I have to ask why you ignore the fact that up until sometime in the last century "white" people didn't even identify with each other, but considered each nationality of "white" people a separate race. I have to ask what is so bad about people with darker skin or slanted eyes. I have to ask why other cultures disgust you so much that you can't stand to have them in your country. I have to ask, in essence, why you are such a complete and utter intolorant person.

Well corporatism is an essentially internationalist philosophy. American consumers buy goods made in Chinese sweatshops owned by Caribean corporations owned by American citizens. Corporations aren't loyal to any country, including America, and Bush is loyal to corporations. Therefore, not loyal to America.

correct.

that is a big problem, in my view.

thanks for the on topic post.

Hmmmm. The guy making the comments has a book coming out.......

I don't believe civil rights in my nation should be taken away from non-whites, I simply believe that they should not live here.

Tough. We're not going anywhere.

Sorry, wrecking your pretensions of racial purity is just too much fun.

Simply put, we really are all human. I have to ask you why you seem to be so enamoured of people with pinkish skin, the so called Caucasians. I have to ask why you ignore the fact that up until sometime in the last century "white" people didn't even identify with each other, but considered each nationality of "white" people a separate race.
It's true that white nations were distinct in Europe. They were never different races, only ethnicities.
I have to ask what is so bad about people with darker skin or slanted eyes.

Nothing! Absolutely nothing. I wish them to have self-determination independent of white influence, just as I would have my people independent of theirs. Trading bits of cultural valuables is fine, but I won't have my culture be undermined, or the blood that my ancestor's struggled to pass on, diluted with that of another ancestry.

I have to ask why other cultures disgust you so much that you can't stand to have them in your country.
again, nothing! so long as they are not dividing my people against ourselves and demanding special privileges (like the PC religion). Ideally, those other cultures would strive to make their homelands great, like my ancestor's have. And I;d wish them the best.


I have to ask, in essence, why you are such a complete and utter intolorant person.
tolerance is the virtue of men who believe in nothing.

Or the shape of the skull, or bone density, or susceptibility to disorders, diseases, and kind.
Like, for instance, white people are more prone to sunburn? ;)

Equality may be the law, but no power will ever make it reality.
Equal means exactly the same. No two races are that way.
Exactly, because they're .002% different from each other. :rolleyes:

I don't believe civil rights in my nation should be taken away from non-whites, I simply believe that they should not live here.
Yes you do. You're forcing them out of the country, no questions asked. That's supressing their civil rights.

Tough. We're not going anywhere.

Sorry, wrecking your pretensions of racial purity is just too much fun.

Yee-haw! You tell 'im! :D

*high-fives Soheran*

It's true that white nations were distinct in Europe. They were never different races, only ethnicities.

Nothing! Absolutely nothing. I wish them to have self-determination independent of white influence, just as I would have my people independent of theirs. Trading bits of cultural valuables is fine, but I won't have my culture be undermined, or the blood that my ancestor's struggled to pass on, diluted with that of another ancestry.


again, nothing! so long as they are not dividing my people against ourselves and demanding special privileges (like the PC religion). Ideally, those other cultures would strive to make their homelands great, like my ancestor's have. And I;d wish them the best.

tolerance is the virtue of men who believe in nothing.
Alright, then in that case: why should cultures be separated? Why should cultures refuse to mingle, to share in the good parts while dismissing the bad? I, for instance, have a tendency to bow whenever I apologize to or thank someone. This is an element from Asian(more specifically, Japanese, though I am not certain if it is specifically theirs or if it really is just general) culture that I have absorbed because I find that it is a good way to show respect and give more meaning to the words I speak.

I also question why you say that tolorance is a virtue of men who believe in nothing. If I am not mistaken, tolorance is the central core to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Tolorance is, in fact, at the central core of a great many religions, regardless of the fact that only about 10% of those who follow any one religion actually practice it. Sure, I may be an athiest, but I guarentee you if I were to be following a religion I would still be the tolorant man that I am.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what your position on equality between the sexes is. Do women deserve the same treatment men get? Do those of neither sex deserve to have an identity of their own, or must they conform to one or the other? I ask because thus far you've said "men" this and "men" that and my curiosity was piqued.

ok, just your last point....I am up past bedtime.

I use the word 'men' as for 'man' as in 'mankind' i.e.: us people.

I believe men and women should have the same civil rights. However I also believe that women in general are better adapted to certain roles as are men. It is advantageous for the sexes to act on their primordial nature, IMO.

It's true that white nations were distinct in Europe. They were never different races, only ethnicities.

Nothing! Absolutely nothing. I wish them to have self-determination independent of white influence, just as I would have my people independent of theirs. Trading bits of cultural valuables is fine, but I won't have my culture be undermined, or the blood that my ancestor's struggled to pass on, diluted with that of another ancestry.

Bullshit. We all came from similar ancestries anyway as humans migrated out from Africa; why shouldn't they intermingle? What is it about cultural diffusion that so "undermines" the efforts of your ancestors? We were then, and still are now, a single human race, no matter how different we may look.

tolerance is the virtue of men who believe in nothing.

Ah, I see. So Christ was an atheist, eh?

(Yes, I'm making the same points as Kyronea. Sue me. :p)

ok, just your last point....I am up past bedtime.

I use the word 'men' as for 'man' as in 'mankind' i.e.: us people.

I believe men and women should have the same civil rights. However I also believe that women in general are better adapted to certain roles as are men. It is advantageous for the sexes to act on their primordial nature, IMO.

And with that reply you again prove your ignorance by avoiding the real subject. I'm up past bedtime, goddammit, way past bedtime. It's 12:34 AM, yet I can still put together a rational argument, or at least a readable one.

(Yes, I'm making the same points as Kyronea. Sue me. :p)

*sues you*

Yay! I'm rich! :)

Bullshit. We all came from similar ancestries anyway as humans migrated out from Africa; why shouldn't they intermingle? What is it about cultural diffusion that so "undermines" the efforts of your ancestors? We were then, and still are now, a single human race, no matter how different we may look.



Ah, I see. So Christ was an atheist, eh?

(Yes, I'm making the same points as Kyronea. Sue me. :p)

Luckily for you, I'm not sue-happy.,

And speaking of bedtime, I need to be up for work in four hours. :eek:

Luckily for you, I'm not sue-happy.,

And speaking of bedtime, I need to be up for work in four hours. :eek:

Starbucks: Don't worry, my precious. We'll take care of you.

*sues you*

Yay! I'm rich! :)

Only Kyronea can do that.
Which he didn't.
Lord be praised! :o

Sorry to take so long, but I was busy with something else.

White Separatists, Kravania, and Warhammer Syndicate, you've all earned warnings. I'm glad to see the thread has quieted back down.
hmmm. I realize it's a biased source, but find me one that isn't.

It makes sense, with Gdub's whoring of domestic jobs, the US constitution, Imported mexiscum pseudo-slave labor.
Culture means nothing, Nation means nothing, Decency means nothing.
Money is everything.

Bush is the epitome of the our political weaknesses and failures as Americans.
Flame bait, which worked very well.
Fuck off you racist fascist little shit.:upyours:

A mexican who risks everything and has to leave his family, friends and home to go and escape the massive levels of poverty in Mexico is so much more a better man than some resentful and wothless racist hick like yourself.



You know the biggest destroyers of real North American culture and societies were your beloved white race, dickshit. Remeber the Native Indians?:rolleyes:

Your no more and no less an immigrant than any Hispanic is in the US.



What fucking planet are you on you fucking nazi wanker.

What socialism, go and get a fucking education, you don't even know the meaning of the word, shit for brains.

Actually better yet, go and follow your fucking idol, Hitler and blow your own brains out, or what little brain matter there is in your thick skull anyways.
Flame in return for flame bait.
Hmm, sounds like we got a little kid behind that monitor, just had to go and cause problems like a lot of other people.
And line-straddling flame/flamebait for flame.

tolerance is the virtue of men who believe in nothing.


What if I believe in tolerance?

BTW, equal does not mean the same as, it means of the same value.

lol
I find this somewhat humorous as well indeed.

OOC: Yeah, indeed it did quiet down. A lot of fancy words for flaming though.....:)