NationStates Jolt Archive


Call it in the air: Nixons or tails?

Rhaomi
20-11-2006, 22:05
It's chilling but true -- Richard Milhous Nixon will be appearing opposite an eagle near you sometime in 2016.

To be fair, he will be but one of many presidential likenesses to be engraved on our nation's new dollar coins. The US Mint has announced (http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/20/news/dollar_coin.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes) that every President from Washington to Bush will eventually get a space on the new currency, with four new faces being introduced each year.

The Mint is hoping that the new Presidential series will revive the languishing dollar coin, which has failed in all previous incarnations from the misfit Susan B. Anthony dollar to the more recent gold Sacajawea dollar. Treasury officials have stated that people will be more inclined to collect these coins, much like the ongoing state quarters project, and that this aspect will help boost usage and circulation.

And for the [Republicans/Democrats] out there who fear that [Clinton/Bush] will get the honor of a coin as well? Relax... the Mint has stated that it will continue following its policy of never creating coins for living ex-presidents.

So, what are your thoughts?
Yootopia
20-11-2006, 22:31
Best not have a Raegan one - otherwise, you should go on a bit of a Tea-based craziness-style 'pour them into the sea' type mission.
Kecibukia
20-11-2006, 22:31
It's not the design that's failing, it's the fact that nothing automated is set up to take them that limits their usefulness.

According to Yahoo, the president has to be dead for at least two years. No Bush, Clinton, or Bush unless they die withing the next decade.
Khadgar
20-11-2006, 22:34
Clearly the "Tricky Dick" coin should be two headed.
Intra-Muros
20-11-2006, 22:34
I think the coin ought to have my face on it.
Dinaverg
20-11-2006, 22:35
Eh...They still need to make a $2 coin to catch up.


But yeah, first, make vending machines in which the coins are useful.
Dragontide
20-11-2006, 22:46
Okay! I'll go along with a Nixon coin if it shows him holding a tape recorder! :p
Laerod
20-11-2006, 23:10
So, what are your thoughts?As long as its part of a series it isn't that much of a problem. They did manage to become elected president after all, and that is an achievement in its own right.
Farnhamia
20-11-2006, 23:13
Cool, I can't wait for the Chester A. Arthur ones to come out. And the James Buchanan ones (they'll be legal tender, they just won't do anything, and after you spend one the merchant will get involved in a civil war).
Lacadaemon
20-11-2006, 23:15
will the taft one be four times the size of the others?

and what about that dude that was president for like twelve hours because someone wouldn't get sworn in on a sunday? does he get one?
Farnhamia
20-11-2006, 23:17
will the taft one be four times the size of the others?

and what about that dude that was president for like twelve hours because someone wouldn't get sworn in on a sunday? does he get one?

Yes, Taft's should be a $2.00 coin, at least.

And did you know that in Rapid City, South Dakota, they have a program going to put a statue of each and every president on the street corners? They want to be known as the City of Presidents.
Red_Letter
20-11-2006, 23:19
will the taft one be four times the size of the others?

and what about that dude that was president for like twelve hours because someone wouldn't get sworn in on a sunday? does he get one?

And what about the one that died after only several weeks?
Phyrexia Novem Orbis
20-11-2006, 23:23
I can see it now, people will look at the Van Bueren one and go 'Who the Hell is this guy and why is he on my money?' :P
Llewdor
20-11-2006, 23:30
The reason Americans haven't accepted the $1 coin is because the US mint keeps printing $1 bills.

When Canada introduced the $1 coin, they announced that the $1 bill would cease production. Since a bill only has about an 18 month lifespan (compared to the 40 years a coin typically lasts), pretty soon everyone was using the $1 coin.

The US mint is making a mistake by allowing the people to choose.
Farnhamia
20-11-2006, 23:33
And what about the one that died after only several weeks?

William Henry Harrison. Caught cold at his own inauguration when he made a two hour speech in the pouring rain.
Celtlund
20-11-2006, 23:38
It's chilling but true -- Richard Milhous Nixon will be appearing opposite an eagle near you sometime in 2016.?

What's so chilling about that? Nixon wasn't a bad President.

So, what are your thoughts?

I think they should promote a come back of the $2.00 bill also and do away with pennies.
Lacadaemon
20-11-2006, 23:40
The reason Americans haven't accepted the $1 coin is because the US mint keeps printing $1 bills.

When Canada introduced the $1 coin, they announced that the $1 bill would cease production. Since a bill only has about an 18 month lifespan (compared to the 40 years a coin typically lasts), pretty soon everyone was using the $1 coin.

The US mint is making a mistake by allowing the people to choose.

That's because canadians are naturally subservient and will therefore acquiesce to the will of the queen.

The US also made the $1 coin threat, but people refused to use it. (On at least two occasions in recent memory). Same thing with the metric system.

My advice. Be more passive agressive.
Celtlund
20-11-2006, 23:42
[QUOTE=Kecibukia;11975329]It's not the design that's failing, it's the fact that nothing automated is set up to take them that limits their usefulness.
QUOTE]

Ever put a $20.00 bill in the stamp machine at the Post Office and get $7.50 worth of stamps. Oh, yea! A whole pocket full of dollar coins. Spend fast or walk pulled over to one side for days. :p
Kyronea
20-11-2006, 23:43
William Henry Harrison. Caught cold at his own inauguration when he made a two hour speech in the pouring rain.

...I thought it was Zachary Taylor that died after only a few weeks.
Celtlund
20-11-2006, 23:44
The US mint is making a mistake by allowing the people to choose.

Let freedom ring. We like choice. :p
Kyronea
20-11-2006, 23:48
Let freedom ring. We like choice. :p

And yet we don't GET to choose with some of the more important things...
Laerod
20-11-2006, 23:53
What's so chilling about that? Nixon wasn't a bad President.Meh, he was too anti-American to be a good president.
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 00:01
Better Nixon than Carter.
Farnhamia
21-11-2006, 00:10
...I thought it was Zachary Taylor that died after only a few weeks.

Taylor served for four months. He seems to have died of cholera but there's some question. I think he probbaly died of 19th century medicine, like James Garfield.
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 00:13
Taylor served for four months. He seems to have died of cholera but there's some question. I think he probbaly died of 19th century medicine, like James Garfield.

Really? I read he (Taylor) died of heat stroke...
Zarakon
21-11-2006, 00:14
Each will have it's own tiny container

Some examples:

George Washington: Cherry Box
Abraham Lincoln: Bullet Casing
Harry S Truman: Big S
Andrew Jackson: Parrot with the f word written on it.
Alexander Hamilton: Pistol
LBJ: Map of vietnam
JFK: Grassy Gnoll
Richard Nixon: Chamberpot
Ronald Reagan: A humongous middle finger
Bill Clinton: Um...let's not mention this one
G.W. Bush: Stick of dynamite. Lit.
Kecibukia
21-11-2006, 00:17
Ever put a $20.00 bill in the stamp machine at the Post Office and get $7.50 worth of stamps. Oh, yea! A whole pocket full of dollar coins. Spend fast or walk pulled over to one side for days. :p

My old gaming club ran a "to the death" competition. The prize was a "bag o' gold". The local bank was out of the Sak... gold coins so I found a stamp machine that had them, bought two stamps w/ two $20's.
Farnhamia
21-11-2006, 00:17
Really? I read he (Taylor) died of heat stroke...

As I said, seems to be some question. In fact, he was disinterred in 1991 and his hair and fingernails were tested for arsenic. The levels found were very low, so it appears he wasn't poisoned. Here's a linky (http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev27-12/text/ansside6.html).
Farnhamia
21-11-2006, 00:19
Each will have it's own tiny container

Some examples:

George Washington: Cherry Box
Abraham Lincoln: Bullet Casing
Harry S Truman: Big S
Andrew Jackson: Parrot with the f word written on it.
Alexander Hamilton: Pistol
LBJ: Map of vietnam
JFK: Grassy Gnoll
Richard Nixon: Chamberpot
Ronald Reagan: A humongous middle finger
Bill Clinton: Um...let's not mention this one
G.W. Bush: Stick of dynamite. Lit.

Hamiltion wasn't ever president. Carter's could be a peanut and Clinton's a cigar (that wasn't so difficult, was it?). FDR's could be a crutch. I think Turman's should be a dollar bill (a buck).
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 00:19
Thanks.


But why can't we put a real American hero on the face of a coin, someone like Bob Saget? :(
Farnhamia
21-11-2006, 00:21
Thanks.


But why can't we put a real American hero on the face of a coin, someone like Bob Saget? :(

Good idea. Saget telling the "Aristocrats" joke, to be precise. Or maybe Groucho, Harpo and Chico, all together?
Llewdor
21-11-2006, 00:28
That's because canadians are naturally subservient and will therefore acquiesce to the will of the queen.

The US also made the $1 coin threat, but people refused to use it. (On at least two occasions in recent memory). Same thing with the metric system.

My advice. Be more passive agressive.
Americans were never permitted to choose paper denominations smaller than $1. What's wrong with simply moving the threshold?

And yes, Canadians often can now reach into a pocket and pull out $18 in change. And it does get a bit heavy.
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 00:31
Good idea. Saget telling the "Aristocrats" joke, to be precise. Or maybe Groucho, Harpo and Chico, all together?

I see you, too, appreciate the humor of Master Saget. DCD was wise to grant you sainthood.
Dolph-Yazid
21-11-2006, 00:35
All I have to say is "In God We Trust" should be replaced with "I Am Not A Crook" for the Nixon coin.
Celtlund
21-11-2006, 01:20
Meh, he was too anti-American to be a good president.

ROFLMAO :p
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
21-11-2006, 01:27
Americans were never permitted to choose paper denominations smaller than $1. What's wrong with simply moving the threshold?

And yes, Canadians often can now reach into a pocket and pull out $18 in change. And it does get a bit heavy.
And they don't fold up nicely to go in your wallet, unlike my own wad of ten to fifteen ones that I keep on hand for vending and ticket machines.
Most importantly, however, what would drunken freshmen shove down the thongs of strippers, were it not for the humble Washington? An entire industry would collapse, and it would be all your fault.
Neo Undelia
21-11-2006, 01:31
What's so chilling about that? Nixon wasn't a bad President.
He was competent, surely, but he did some not so great things with either the CIA or FBI. Can’t remember which at the moment.
Intra-Muros
21-11-2006, 01:32
But.. coins are so much more fun to..stuff.
New Granada
21-11-2006, 01:32
I'm very much in favor of using dollar coins, I always enjoy using euros and CHF and pounds in coin form when overseas.
The Nazz
21-11-2006, 01:33
It's not the design that's failing, it's the fact that nothing automated is set up to take them that limits their usefulness.

According to Yahoo, the president has to be dead for at least two years. No Bush, Clinton, or Bush unless they die withing the next decade.
Where do you live? You can use them in practically every machine around down here in Florida, and they were perfect for transit when I lived in San Francisco.
New Domici
21-11-2006, 01:37
So, what are your thoughts?

Nixon shouldn't be heads. He should be tails.


Or, have him on one side and Reagan on the other and let people decide for themselves which one is tails.

Or, don't put Nixon's face on it. Put his ass on it. "Call it, tails or tail."
Sel Appa
21-11-2006, 01:38
Do they not realize that if they don't withdraw the one dollar bill, the coin will NEVER succeed. They can keep trying and trying, but it will never work.
Darknovae
21-11-2006, 01:39
William Henry Harrison. Caught cold at his own inauguration when he made a two hour speech in the pouring rain.

Yep. Died after a month too. I nearly confused him with Benjamin Harrison.

I think we should know who all the presidents are before we start putting them on our money, or people might be going "who is this guy?"
New Granada
21-11-2006, 01:51
I think the inclusion of Old Dead White Men on the coins may be the jumper that they need.

All the rest of our money, with the exception of the Eminent Honorable Glorious Ben Franklin $100 notes, are presidents. Franklin was old, white, dead, eminent, &c.

Coins with women on them, especially - say - Indian women, seem a bit like novelties to most people in my experience. Seems like the mint is just throwing a bone out to this group or that to be diverse.

Which said, I could see an MLK- graced piece of money being successful, but he was a he, after all.
New Xero Seven
21-11-2006, 01:59
You know... they should start putting images on coins other than (dead) political figures. For U.S. coinage, I'm thinking maybe the Statue of Liberty, or some stylized stars.
Chumblywumbly
21-11-2006, 02:03
And for the [Republicans/Democrats] out there who fear that [Clinton/Bush] will get the honor of a coin as well? Relax... the Mint has stated that it will continue following its policy of never creating coins for living ex-presidents.

So, what are your thoughts?
What about poor Jimmy Carter?

I only feel sorry for him because he looks exactly like my Granddad; so much so, that when he visited the US, people were pointing in the street and one bus driver stood up and saluted him when he got on a bus.

Must have suprised the guy when an ex-POTUS talked with a Kirkcaldy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkcaldy) accent. :p
Sel Appa
21-11-2006, 02:04
I think the inclusion of Old Dead White Men on the coins may be the jumper that they need.

All the rest of our money, with the exception of the Eminent Honorable Glorious Ben Franklin $100 notes, are presidents. Franklin was old, white, dead, eminent, &c.

Coins with women on them, especially - say - Indian women, seem a bit like novelties to most people in my experience. Seems like the mint is just throwing a bone out to this group or that to be diverse.

Which said, I could see an MLK- graced piece of money being successful, but he was a he, after all.

Alexander Hamilton was not a president.
New Granada
21-11-2006, 05:18
Alexander Hamilton was not a president.

Ah well, still old/white/dead/male eminent, &c.

Certainly not, you know, sacajawea.
Vetalia
21-11-2006, 05:19
I can't help but think of Nixon from Futurama...
The Nazz
21-11-2006, 05:27
I can't help but think of Nixon from Futurama...
Was that when he had Agnew's body or the killer robot body?
Frisbeeteria
21-11-2006, 05:44
I'm having trouble with the visualization of the Bill Clinton coin.


Head or tail?
The Nazz
21-11-2006, 05:46
I'm having trouble with the visualization of the Bill Clinton coin.


Head or tail?
All head, baby. No tail. That was his argument, anyway.
Vetalia
21-11-2006, 05:47
Was that when he had Agnew's body or the killer robot body?

Killer robot. I could just imagine him saying "Nixon's back"...
Katzistanza
21-11-2006, 05:50
Best not have a Raegan one - otherwise, you should go on a bit of a Tea-based craziness-style 'pour them into the sea' type mission.

They will. And I'm so in for "mission" of the sort, when they do :)
Squi
21-11-2006, 05:52
The US mint is making a mistake by allowing the people to choose.
I just have to comment that the psot was most amusing when reading you signature afterward.


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It's called freedom. Some of us like it.



I gots to know man, was it intentional irony or unintentional?
Megaloria
21-11-2006, 06:05
Americans were never permitted to choose paper denominations smaller than $1. What's wrong with simply moving the threshold?

And yes, Canadians often can now reach into a pocket and pull out $18 in change. And it does get a bit heavy.

The upside is that we can defend against a robbery with the very wallet they want to steal. It's like the sock full of quarters given new purpose beyond laundromat muggings and Mallrats references.
Megaloria
21-11-2006, 06:06
Killer robot. I could just imagine him saying "Nixon's back"...

and then doing the jowly "haabrrrrrrbrrrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrrr" thing. Man I love that.
Cyrian space
21-11-2006, 06:52
Cool, I can't wait for the Chester A. Arthur ones to come out. And the James Buchanan ones (they'll be legal tender, they just won't do anything, and after you spend one the merchant will get involved in a civil war).

Try not to give any of those to any Iraqis, then. That could end badly.
The Nazz
21-11-2006, 06:56
Next let's get the mint to start printing forty cent pieces with the pictures of vice presidents on them. "Ooooh, the John Nance Garner!"
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 06:59
All I have to say is "In God We Trust" should be replaced with "I Am Not A Crook" for the Nixon coin.

And the (hypothetical) Saget one should say "In Bob We Trust."
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 07:01
He was competent, surely, but he did some not so great things with either the CIA or FBI. Can’t remember which at the moment.

With both, actually.
Rhaomi
21-11-2006, 07:39
Next let's get the mint to start printing forty cent pieces with the pictures of vice presidents on them. "Ooooh, the John Nance Garner!"
What a delightful name... :D

Eh... it saddens me to think that one day Cheney and his... "exploits" will be no more than a footnote in a history book.
Maineiacs
21-11-2006, 08:20
Neither Nixon, GWB, nor LBJ even deserve to be on Monpoly money.
Congo--Kinshasa
21-11-2006, 08:23
Neither Nixon, GWB, nor LBJ even deserve to be on Monpoly money.

What about on a Go Directly to Jail card? :p
Llewdor
23-11-2006, 20:15
And they don't fold up nicely to go in your wallet, unlike my own wad of ten to fifteen ones that I keep on hand for vending and ticket machines.
Most importantly, however, what would drunken freshmen shove down the thongs of strippers, were it not for the humble Washington? An entire industry would collapse, and it would be all your fault.
This would dramatically increase the incomes of strippers, because those kids would have to use fives.

And what are your strippers doing wearing thongs, anyway? They're strippers. They're supposed to be naked.
The Nazz
23-11-2006, 20:20
What a delightful name... :D

Eh... it saddens me to think that one day Cheney and his... "exploits" will be no more than a footnote in a history book.

He'll be the next Agnew. Hmm. I wonder if there will be a Futurama reunion where the heads of Dubya and Nixon go at it on the bodies of Cheney and Agnew? :D
Llewdor
24-11-2006, 01:39
I liked Agnew.