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Yes, I strongly believe that guns and other such weapons should be abolished and we return to traditional swords, bows, halberds, axes, and so on. This will bring honor back to fighting and war and make it less likely to be used as a conflict resolution. (Also ban crossbows)

GUNS ARE FOR COWARDS!

i see no honour in fighting.

Will I get to use throwing knife, throwing darts and throwing axes?

i see no honour in fighting.

How can you not see the honour in fighting?

Swordfighting can be an art. That's hard to do with guns: a sport? Yes. An art? much more questionable.

Why ban guns? It's not like gun ownership is mutually exclusive to having a halberd.

Will I get to use throwing knife, throwing darts and throwing axes?

Yes, as long as you don't push a button/pull a lever without much effort, it's all good. Catapults do require effort. Crossbows and guns do not.

With my chainsaw, I am unbeatable!

Yes

Then I see no problem with it. I'm an expert thrower. :D

GUNS ARE FOR COWARDS!
Well, if you say that then I am afraid that I am a coward! :mp5:

YESSSS!


but can i have an itty bitty gun please? i'm sure they can coexist peacefully...

*pulls out my knives and axes*

Oohhhhh yea baby. :D

How are you going to disarm someone who violates the ban on guns?

Then I see no problem with it. I'm an expert thrower. :D

Lucky...:( How much do you charge?

How are you going to disarm someone who violates the ban on guns?

Decapitate them

Yes, I strongly believe that guns and other such weapons should be abolished and we return to traditional swords, bows, halberds, axes, and so on. This will bring honor back to fighting and war and make it less likely to be used as a conflict resolution. (Also ban crossbows)

GUNS ARE FOR COWARDS!
what we need are gunblades :cool:

Lucky...:( How much do you charge?


depends on how fast you learn. I teach by a series of duo's or one. Depends on how good your aim is.

The only honourable battle is a pie eating contest!:D

Decapitate them

Right, just walk right up to the group of men with AK-47s and lop their heads off, armed with nothing more than a battle-ax.

Right, just walk right up to the group of men with AK-47s and lop their heads off, armed with nothing more than a battle-ax.
it's subtle, they'll never see it coming! you just need a really big coat to hide the axe.

it's subtle, they'll never see it coming! you just need a really big coat to hide the axe.

Or you could just get a really balanced and really sharp axe (more than one) and just throw it at them from behind.

If fighting is going to be with swords than I it should be that both sides are blindfolded and just charge toward each other screaming holding their swords pointed forward.

Does that mean life will be just like a roleplaying game?

Cool! :D

You can take my Hunish recurve bow from my cold dead hands.

:mp5: <-- but with arrows

Why not just get rid of guns that aren't muzzleloaders?

You can take my Hunish recurve bow from my cold dead hands.

I am partial to maces.

http://latakia.dyndns.org/~ruhl/images/mace-length.jpeg

depends on how fast you learn. I teach by a series of duo's or one. Depends on how good your aim is.

I'd say I suck. *makes mental note to buy a dart board*

I think I'll ride around on a horse in full plate carrying a lance. :)

I'd say I suck. *makes mental note to buy a dart board*

*throws an axe so close to your ear you can almost feel it touching you.*

:D

*throws an axe so close to your ear you can almost feel it touching you.*

:D
*catches axe and juggles*
yay, i'll be able to practice my juggling some more, and serve my country.

Someone's been reading the Darkover novels. ;)

I think I'll ride around on a horse in full plate carrying a lance. :)

Why? Frankly I don't think you'll be very intimidating just by yourself. All I need do is drop a few chunks of sharp metal and your horse is down. Or I could just move out of the way and then taunt you, you silly english kaaaaaniggit!

Bringing back one-on-one close combat...I like it. Epic battles would return, gladiatorial combat could see a return as well, and the blacksmithing industry would no doubt benefit.

Of course, it would only take one dick with a gun to ruin the whole thing. I would most certainly be that dick.

ok fine, you get as many people together as you wan't with as many hand held weapons you want, and i'll sit there alone with an M-60 and mow you all down as you charge in vain.

ok fine, you get as many people together as you wan't with as many hand held weapons you want, and i'll sit there alone with an M-60 and mow you all down as you charge in vain.

You know, for a guy named Barbaric Tribes, you're not being very cooperative here.

With my chainsaw, I am unbeatable!

I'm pretty sure I could cut you and stab you into little pieces before you got near hurting me with a running chainsaw....assuming I kept my head.

Why? Frankly I don't think you'll be very intimidating just by yourself. All I need do is drop a few chunks of sharp metal and your horse is down. Or I could just move out of the way and then taunt you, you silly english kaaaaaniggit!

You'd kill a horse? You monster! :eek:

They are far too cute to harm.

http://www.lastlaughfarm.com/horses/images/My_Pretty_Echo_headshot.png

But... but... but... crossbows are cool! :(
Pikes ftw, though.

You'd kill a horse? You monster! :eek:

They are far too cute to harm.

http://www.lastlaughfarm.com/horses/images/My_Pretty_Echo_headshot.png

Ya know we wouldnt have to use horses. Instead of horses we could just have a person riding on another person's back. What a bizarre battle that would be.:)

Ya know we wouldnt have to use horses. Instead of horses we could just have a person riding on another person's back. What a bizarre battle that would be.:)

That has no style. Nothing is as cool as a knight riding around on a horse, slaying evildoers and rescuing dudes in distress.

With my chainsaw, I am unbeatable!

Kuli? Is that you? :fluffle:

(I'm BritSter btw).

That has no style. Nothing is as cool as a knight riding around on a horse, slaying evildoers and rescuing dudes in distress.



Kuli? Is that you? :fluffle:

(I'm BritSter btw).

What about riding on a dragon? I know in stories knights killed dragons but lets just pretend its a good dragon.

Ya know we wouldnt have to use horses. Instead of horses we could just have a person riding on another person's back. What a bizarre battle that would be.:)
Heh, heh. Heh. Innuendo. Heh.

Heh, heh. Heh. Innuendo. Heh.

:confused: I didnt mean it as an innuendo... but oh well:)

Well, I for one would not mind seeing the judicial duel being re-instituted as a form of conflict resolution.

I am very partial to the German mentality of duelling, where each party brings his own coffin, just in case they are found lacking. None of that French first blood crap. Saviolo said it himself in his book His Practice (Published : there is no such thing as a duel to first blood, only to death. Or something along those lines.

And considering that I am training in the German Longsword as it stands, and that I am familiar with the dirty tricks of Ringeck and Talhoffer, I might be able to hire myself out as a professional duellist...

Though I don't think I want to even think about the life insurance premiums...

You'd kill a horse? You monster! :eek:

They are far too cute to harm.


Not only would I kill one, I'd probably eat it too. RAWR!

With my chainsaw, I am unbeatable!


/me gives Kulikovia a .223 caliber brain massage from 200 yards. :sniper:



I win. :D

Call me a coward and i'll shoot you :)


So, swords were never used for 'conflict resolution' ?

Whiskey tango foxtrot, over.

Go ahead and try and stab me.

*Cocks Revolver*

Your honor and fifty cents will buy you a cup of coffee when you charge emplaced machine guns on foot, equipped with only a sword.

I have the Hyrulian Sword! No one can beat me! Muhuwahaha! :eek:

With my chainsaw, I am unbeatable!
Alright, let's do it!
http://imperial.boinaslava.net/wh40k/wa/priest.jpg

I have the Hyrulian Sword! No one can beat me! Muhuwahaha! :eek:

*Fired RPG*

Just wanting to pose a question that I`ve had in my head for a while now, but if, by some miracle (be it divine intervention, a previously unparalelled willing worldwide scrap program or a curious shortage of gunpowder, I`m not sure how...) all of the worlds propellant-based weaponary was removed in a short space of time, do you think attitudes to country vs. country warfare would change?

There`s a lot of flaws in my little daydream, I admit, but I somehow get the feeling that without the current "point and click" mentality that governs killing there would be a lot less willing participants.

Just a thought, please don`t drill me a new nostril with whatever firearm you possess! :)

Just wanting to pose a question that I`ve had in my head for a while now, but if, by some miracle (be it divine intervention, a previously unparalelled willing worldwide scrap program or a curious shortage of gunpowder, I`m not sure how...) all of the worlds propellant-based weaponary was removed in a short space of time, do you think attitudes to country vs. country warfare would change?

There`s a lot of flaws in my little daydream, I admit, but I somehow get the feeling that without the current "point and click" mentality that governs killing there would be a lot less willing participants.

Just a thought, please don`t drill me a new nostril with whatever firearm you possess! :)

Yes.

As far as fighting with swords go, manpower if much more important than technology. Ten relatively unathletic people armed with machine guns and an unlimited supply of ammo could mow down thousands of burly warriors with broadswords.

In short, with sword, the quality of the soldier has to be top notch, and number are very, very important. Nations would be much less willing to war with each other over fear of losing too many men and being open for attack-something that doesn't happen at all these days.

What happens when someone makes an army of sword wielding robots that have ten times the chopping power of any human?
Even sword based war-fare is not immune to technology.

*Fired RPG*

Fire? What fire? :confused:

Lol, mispelling out of 10.

*Detonates Nuke*

Originally posted by Phobiac
What happens when someone makes an army of sword wielding robots that have ten times the chopping power of any human?
Even sword based war-fare is not immune to technology.

This is also true; as you say, even sword based war-fare is not immune to advances in technology that seeks to take the tangible consequences and the guilt out of killing. Replace the trigger of a gun with the "on" switch of a robot such as the kind you suggested, and we can still equate the problem down to people not willing to put their morning stars where their mouths are. ;)

That has no style. Nothing is as cool as a knight riding around on a horse, slaying evildoers and rescuing dudes in distress.

Wrong! A naked man, covered in green bodypaint, riding around on an oversized komodo dragon, screaming obscenities and attacking people with a chainsaw.

You'd kill a horse? You monster! :eek:

They are far too cute to harm.

Yes, at this tech level we need to make mechanical horses. Let them be powered with springs*. Onwards, my knights, into the battle we charge! Take out you wasters and waste'em to pieces!


*Steam for the Royal one.

I'd love a return to swords and other assorted weaponry. Though, it strikes me that the western world would lose all its military power overnight, and China would be the unquestioned world superpower with a billion lean soldiers.

I would personally go for a Pilum for dealing with cavalry, and a modified machete for close-range battles.

I'd go Swiss Pikes and Katanas.

I would greatly support this!

Personally Im a katana kind of guy myself, but swords in general are just cool.

I'd love a return to swords and other assorted weaponry. Though, it strikes me that the western world would lose all its military power overnight, and China would be the unquestioned world superpower with a billion lean soldiers.
Or the country would disintegrate back into a few dozen warring factions because, without their tanks, the military is no longer capable of clamping down on dissent.

I am curious, though, if guns are gone, couldn't one still use a tank by removing the secondary guns and replacing the main barrel with a huge spear? Or, better yet, get a big truck (with a bed that's at least 8' high) and have a bunch of guys with long spears sit in the back of it. They could be supported by some guys in low-flying aircraft equipped with javelins.

Um, I don't want shatter anyones illusion, but weren't there even more wars before we realised we could annihilate(sp?) the entire planet just by pushing a button?

Um, I don't want shatter anyones illusion, but weren't there even more wars before we realised we could annihilate(sp?) the entire planet just by pushing a button?

Yes, but Im not sure on the death toll on those wars vs modern ones.

Yes, I strongly believe that guns and other such weapons should be abolished and we return to traditional swords, bows, halberds, axes, and so on. This will bring honor back to fighting and war and make it less likely to be used as a conflict resolution. (Also ban crossbows)

GUNS ARE FOR COWARDS!

I strongly support the sentiment soley because gang warefare would be less dangerous, and more entertaining for innocent bystanders.

Well, I for one would not mind seeing the judicial duel being re-instituted as a form of conflict resolution.

I am very partial to the German mentality of duelling, where each party brings his own coffin, just in case they are found lacking. None of that French first blood crap. Saviolo said it himself in his book His Practice (Published : there is no such thing as a duel to first blood, only to death. Or something along those lines.

And considering that I am training in the German Longsword as it stands, and that I am familiar with the dirty tricks of Ringeck and Talhoffer, I might be able to hire myself out as a professional duellist...

Though I don't think I want to even think about the life insurance premiums...
That should be a definite start. Legalize dueling, but you need to have an agreement and contract first.
Go ahead and try and stab me.

*Cocks Revolver*
*comes out of nowhere and stabs you in the heart*
What happens when someone makes an army of sword wielding robots that have ten times the chopping power of any human?
Even sword based war-fare is not immune to technology.
That will also be illegal. :)
Wrong! A naked man, covered in green bodypaint, riding around on an oversized komodo dragon, screaming obscenities and attacking people with a chainsaw.
Fine!
...I am curious, though, if guns are gone, couldn't one still use a tank by removing the secondary guns and replacing the main barrel with a huge spear? Or, better yet, get a big truck (with a bed that's at least 8' high) and have a bunch of guys with long spears sit in the back of it. They could be supported by some guys in low-flying aircraft equipped with javelins.
THAT would be FRICKIN' AWESOME!

I'd prefer a combination of guns and swords, like in the Devil May Cry videogames. Or the combination of chainsaw and "boomstick" (cobalt blue 12-gauge shotgun) from the Evil Dead movies.

"Hail to the king, baby." :)

Or the country would disintegrate back into a few dozen warring factions because, without their tanks, the military is no longer capable of clamping down on dissent.

I am curious, though, if guns are gone, couldn't one still use a tank by removing the secondary guns and replacing the main barrel with a huge spear? Or, better yet, get a big truck (with a bed that's at least 8' high) and have a bunch of guys with long spears sit in the back of it. They could be supported by some guys in low-flying aircraft equipped with javelins.
For everyone: Feast your eyes on this (http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=2621).
http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg01182005/IdeoPraxist.jpg

It'll make hunting more interesting, that's for sure.

*comes out of nowhere and stabs you in the heart*

Don't you realize it yet?

I HAVE NO HEART! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I oppose 'honorable' warfare as un-American. We won the Revolution by fighting dishonorably, and our preference for breaking the rules is a tradition I uphold with pride!

So, I guess I oppose a return to swordfighting. Ambushes are so much easier with ranged weapons.

lah. let's invent lightsabres instead.

Yes, I strongly believe that guns and other such weapons should be abolished and we return to traditional swords, bows, halberds, axes, and so on. This will bring honor back to fighting and war and make it less likely to be used as a conflict resolution. (Also ban crossbows)

GUNS ARE FOR COWARDS!

There is an ancient quote passed down, in the mountains of Tibet that I think explains my reaction to this perfectly.

He who lives by the sword, gets shot by he who doesn't.

lah. let's invent lightsabres instead.

Amen.

Good, bad, I'm the guy with the Claymore.

F**k honor. I'm all for guns. And tanks. And rpg's. And other large explosives. If a treaty against guns is ever passed and I'm in charge of a country, I will quit the UN. And pwn everybody else with a tank. A single tank.

F**k honor. I'm all for guns. And tanks. And rpg's. And other large explosives. If a treaty against guns is ever passed and I'm in charge of a country, I will quit the UN. And pwn everybody else with a tank. A single tank.

Are you talking about on nationstates? If so, then you would also have to contend with the numerous nations that make use of Magic (not guns) high Technology (Gravitic manipulation, anyone?) not to mention the numerous civilian products that could be made into explosives in a pinch.

There is an ancient quote passed down, in the mountains of Tibet that I think explains my reaction to this perfectly.

He who lives by the sword, gets shot by he who doesn't.

He who fights from afar is a wimp.

Yes, I strongly believe that guns and other such weapons should be abolished and we return to traditional swords, bows, halberds, axes, and so on. This will bring honor back to fighting and war and make it less likely to be used as a conflict resolution. (Also ban crossbows)

GUNS ARE FOR COWARDS!

Fuse tech with swords (aka LIGHTSABER) and I'm in.

Fencing FTW.