NS UN categories of fictional dystopias
Sewn Together
20-11-2006, 02:08
Post you what you think the governments of fictional dystopias would correspond to by NS category terms
1984- Iron Fist Consumerists
Brave New World- Iron Fist Socialists
We- Father Knows Best State
The Giver- Left-wing utopia
Post more! Or correct these!
Greyenivol Colony
20-11-2006, 02:17
I don't recall there being any much of anything to consume in Oceania.
Sewn Together
20-11-2006, 02:20
I don't recall there being any much of anything to consume in Oceania.
I guess not, but humans were treated as "human resources" and Psychotic Dictatorship wouldnt really accurately describe it.
The Giver is more Iron Fists Socialist.
Left-Wing Utopias have high levels of political and civil freedom; I don't remember that in The Giver.
Sewn Together
20-11-2006, 02:23
The Giver is more Iron Fists Socialist.
Left-Wing Utopias have high levels of political and civil freedom; I don't remember that in The Giver.
I think the role of individuals was democratically chosen, and a council decided laws.
Oceania - Psychotic Dictatorship if you're in the Party, probably Corrupt Dictatorship for the proles
Brave New World - either Compulsory Consumerist State or Benevolent Dictatorship, not sure which
The Giver - Father Knows Best State (seems to fit better than Corrupt Dictatorship)
Sewn Together
20-11-2006, 03:14
Brave New World - either Compulsory Consumerist State or Benevolent Dictatorship, not sure which
Id say father knows best state or benevolent dictatorship
Saint-Newly
20-11-2006, 03:17
Heaven - Father Knows Best State
Heaven - Father Knows Best State
Could you get anymore off topic?
Saint-Newly
20-11-2006, 03:22
Could you get anymore off topic?
Er, by giving an NS UN category of a fictional dystopia? I guess I could, yes.
Er, by giving an NS UN category of a fictional dystopia? I guess I could, yes.
Ok, I revise: could you try to jack this thread anymore?
Saint-Newly
20-11-2006, 03:26
Ok, I revise: could you try to jack this thread anymore?
I refer you to my previous reply. Cheers.
EDIT:By the way, I'm not interested in a fight. I suggest you look elsewhere. I'm here to have a discussion, not argue with you.
Does anyone have a link with the definitions of the UN categories?
I already checked the Gameplay forum, and I don't think I can pass judgement on anything until I have those.
EDIT:By the way, I'm not interested in a fight. I suggest you look elsewhere. I'm here to have a discussion, not argue with you.
That's exactly what my point was. I Advise we just drop it.
Saint-Newly
20-11-2006, 03:32
Does anyone have a link with the definitions of the UN categories?
I already checked the Gameplay forum, and I don't think I can pass judgement on anything until I have those.
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Category
Let's try to keep it friendly, shall we? I'm not here to argue, and I'm not entirely sure what I did to upset you in the first place.
But yes, I'm glad you saw sense. Have fun :)
That's exactly what my point was. I Advise we just drop it.
I put on my asbestos suit for nothing.:(
I would say 1984 is a Father Knows Best State(gov't interference with everything), with a bit of Corrupt Dictatorship(no-one outside the party gets rich, or has any rights for that matter).
Saint-Newly
20-11-2006, 03:40
Oh, I just thought of what I missed:
Hell - Corrupt Dictatorship.
Let's not forget Dante's hideous bureaucracy.