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So today I got mugged again (this is the 3rd time now:mad:) and I'm fucking pissed. Our [British] Society is falling to bits and nothing is being done to stop it, our government keeps telling us about how we can help ourselves but what can 1 person do against a gang? If we arm ourselves with knives or other such instruments then we are the criminals, so what can we do? I watch the news and read the papers (The Sun, The Daily Mail and The Telegraph as I enjoy getting different perspectives on each story, so please do not think my opinion is biased to any particular point of view, I am Right-Wing but not blindly so.

Anyway, a Chinese woman in London was kicked to death by 4 men who go nothing, this was IN HER OWN HOME, not on the street and she did nothing to provoke the assault, a few hours later the same gang broke into another house and held a small child at knife point and demanded her father give them money, this man fought back and is to my mind a hero, and this gang, acting as the cowards they are, ran.

I was assaulted in May of this year and have been mugged 3 times since November last year, I have also had friends that have suffered similar crimes (on of my friends nearly lost an eye, he was punched with a sovereign ring and he was blind for 3 days following it)

So why does nobody do anything! We are all just expected to sit on our hands and let this filth tear our nation apart, if I were to take a shotgun and execute the scumbags that murder, rape and assault people everyday then it would be me who would be branded the criminal.

Thats it, I don't care if you like what I have to say, society is falling apart, everyday it gets worse, so if anyone can do anything then please, I urge you to do it, anything to stop the spiral of self-destruction.

That is all...

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So today I got mugged again (this is the 3rd time now:mad:) and I'm fucking pissed. Our [British] Society is falling to bits and nothing is being done to stop it, our government keeps telling us about how we can help ourselves but what can 1 person do against a gang? If we arm ourselves with knives or other such instruments then we are the criminals, so what can we do? I watch the news and read the papers (The Sun, The Daily Mail and The Telegraph as I enjoy getting different perspectives on each story, so please do not think my opinion is biased to any particular point of view, I am Right-Wing but not blindly so.

Anyway, a Chinese woman in London was kicked to death by 4 men who go nothing, this was IN HER OWN HOME, not on the street and she did nothing to provoke the assault, a few hours later the same gang broke into another house and held a small child at knife point and demanded her father give them money, this man fought back and is to my mind a hero, and this gang, acting as the cowards they are, ran.

I was assaulted in May of this year and have been mugged 3 times since November last year, I have also had friends that have suffered similar crimes (on of my friends nearly lost an eye, he was punched with a sovereign ring and he was blind for 3 days following it)

So why does nobody do anything! We are all just expected to sit on our hands and let this filth tear our nation apart, if I were to take a shotgun and execute the scumbags that murder, rape and assault people everyday then it would be me who would be branded the criminal.

Thats it, I don't care if you like what I have to say, society is falling apart, everyday it gets worse, so if anyone can do anything then please, I urge you to do it, anything to stop the spiral of self-destruction.

That is all...

your choice of newspapers does not offer you any sort of balanced perspective on the issue. they are all reactionary.

besides that. sorry to hear you got mugged. again. that sucks. i'm guessing you live in a large city, so it's not surprising you've been mugged at least once. i've been mugged once. nothing but my hat got taken because i had nothing else and the police arrived and scared them off. but i'd already gave a good account of myslef before they arrived and the police never even considered charging me with anything. fighting back doesn't constitute assault. hunting people down is, however, psychotic.

your choice of newspapers does not offer you any sort of balanced perspective on the issue. they are all reactionary.


Not only that, two of them are actually self-confessed tabloids.

fighting back doesn't constitute assault.

Yes it does. Self-defence may be a defence to the charge of assault, but the constituent elements of the crime are still there.

*Takes lawyer hat off*

To the OP; where were you, and when? I've never been mugged before.

Where's the "Take a gun and storm parliment" option?

"British society is falling to bits and nothing is being done to stop it"?

O RLY?!

I think the British Crime Survey would beg to differ. Since 1995, the BCS has shown a drop in all crime of 44%. Violent crime has fallen by 43% in this period (and almost half of violent crimes recorded by the BCS didn't actually involve any injury to the victim). The risk of being a victim of crime has dropped from 40% to 23%.

I'd say British society was tightening up its act...

I would have said a small city, myself.

Anyway, you're vaguely right. Getting mugged is bullshit. But what you want to do about it in terms of generations is the way to think and deal with it. Not very heartening for you, because you've just been mugged. But consider: How much joy will the mugger know in his life? He's wasting time. Fuck him. Concentrate on how you can improve everybody's lot to lessen the karmic burden imposed by cunts.

Go swimming, or something. See Borat.

I dunno, maybe something to stop you from being mugged?

I live in Glasgow, supposedly an extremely violent city. Previously lived in a small country town, then lived in Leith, Edinburgh–again, a supposedly violent place. Never been mugged, threatened, assaulted or any of the like.

The Sun, The Daily Hate Mail and The Torygraph hardly give you a wide perspective on British political views, never mind a wide perspective on life.

Tilean Free States: What city do you live in?

You could move to Cornwall. Worst thing there is in Cornwall is smelly cows and even smellier old people. No muggers.

I think we should take the Civil Service, line them up against a wall and shoot them all. Not that it would stop the crime problem, but with the money we saved i dare say we could get some more policemen on the beat. Oh and i think policemen should use more force on a regular basis. Nothing is more gratifying than to watch one of these fly on the wall shows where they follow some coppers around and watching them rough handling some yobbo.

Yes it does. Self-defence may be a defence to the charge of assault, but the constituent elements of the crime are still there.

*Takes lawyer hat off*


yes, well, you'd have to go pretty well out of your way to cause damage to get any reasonable police officer to arrest you for assault in a self-defence situation. you don't have to cause damage to another person to defend yourself.

although that reminds me of some advice my friend was given by a police officer when she was at school about how to defend herself against an attacker. basically the advice was to carry a biro or pencil or whatever at all times and in the event of an attack try to jam it in the attackers ear. apparently it's not seen as an offensive weapon even if it used as such and therefore survives a self-defence claim better, even if the attacker dies, which is the aim of stabbing someone in the ear if we're honest.

I think we should take the Civil Service, line them up against a wall and shoot them all. Not that it would stop the crime problem, but with the money we saved i dare say we could get some more policemen on the beat. Oh and i think policemen should use more force on a regular basis. Nothing is more gratifying than to watch one of these fly on the wall shows where they follow some coppers around than watching them rough handling some yobbo.

You forgot to factor in the money we would have to spend on adivsors and think-tanks before we could shoot them. Then we'd have to hire people to shoot them. Then we'd have to hire people to give the shooters counselling. Then they'd sue us anyway. Then we'd need more advisors and think tanks to tell us we need more police. Then there could be a really expensive study to find out how many. Then there would be three more studies because the first on was wrong.

Really, it's cheaper not to

You forgot to factor in the money we would have to spend on adivsors and think-tanks before we could shoot them. Then we'd have to hire people to shoot them. Then we'd have to hire people to give the shooters counselling. Then they'd sue us anyway. Then we'd need more advisors and think tanks to tell us we need more police. Then there could be a really expensive study to find out how many. Then there would be three more studies because the first on was wrong.

Really, it's cheaper not to

It would be cheaper still to let everyone shoot each other until we got sick of it.

I live in Glasgow, supposedly an extremely violent city. Previously lived in a small country town, then lived in Leith, Edinburgh–again, a supposedly violent place. Never been mugged, threatened, assaulted or any of the like.


no way! :eek: another leither! leith's not violent any more though. it's almost completely yuppified. although one of my friends who grew up here got mugged when he was 14 by a bunch of older teenagers with a machete. there's the occaisional dodgy looking character around but no more than in newington or marchmont which are recognisably studenty areas and i've never felt unsafe here. no more than anywhere else in edinburgh anyway. and where i got mugged was just off the royal mile, supposedly a sanitized tourist area.

Take a gun and off the perpetrator!!! Vigilante justice through and through!!!

no way! :eek: another leither!
Dude! Nice to know there’s more than peep who knows where I’m talking about. Used to live on Henderson Street, just off the bottom of the Walk.

leith’s not violent any more though. it’s almost completely yuppified. although one of my friends who grew up here got mugged when he was 14 by a bunch of older teenagers with a machete. there’s the occaisional dodgy looking character around but no more than in newington or marchmont which are recognisably studenty areas and i’ve never felt unsafe here. no more than anywhere else in edinburgh anyway. and where i got mugged was just off the royal mile, supposedly a sanitized tourist area.
Exactly. There will always be prannocks who mug others, but they’re in the vast minority; society isn’t crumbling. Moreover, muggers target those who give them an easy opportunity. If you act sensibly then more likely than not, you’ll live a violence-free existence.

Well being a giant and looking and acting like a head case has its advantages but I have known at least 1 person to of been mugged before only had £3 pound so that mugger must be having a pretty shit pension plan :P

With that said I advise some kind of self defence class (especially wrestling so you can “try this at home”) and/or finding some friends I’ve had some chavettes start on one of my emo friends once very funny once they realised there where 8 guys with her:D

the world's a shitty place and people are dangerous. Vigalanti justice.

(on of my friends nearly lost an eye, he was punched with a sovereign ring and he was blind for 3 days following it)

This style of ring is often regarded as synonymous with chav culture.
Interesting...

Anyway, shame you guys don't have the Guardian Angels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_angels) like in NYC and some other cities. They even get red berets (http://www.millerhats.com/productimages/061.jpg)!

Another reason to legalize drugs, get some more jail space for the violent assholes. Lets see how they like beating people up when they are sitting in prison.

the world's a shitty place and people are dangerous. Vigalanti justice.

:D very clever...I hope

Personally, you should arm yourself; while it may not protect you against gangs, you may be able to defend yourself against a particular individual. Ideally, if every citizen had a gun, the crime rate would drop drastically. In the meantime, however, you should petition the government to take harsher action against criminals; I would not be adverse to imposing the death penalty or life in prison for even a simple mugger. It would act as a very good deterrent against crime and protect the common people from the filth which plagues them.

Dude! Nice to know there’s more than peep who knows where I’m talking about. Used to live on Henderson Street, just off the bottom of the Walk.

oh yeh, i've got a friend lives round the corner from there. i'm closer to the links though.

Exactly. There will always be prannocks who mug others, but they’re in the vast minority; society isn’t crumbling. Moreover, muggers target those who give them an easy opportunity. If you act sensibly then more likely than not, you’ll live a violence-free existence.

yeh, my work mates tell me i'm crazy walking home at night after a shift but everyone you see at that time of night is too wasted to walk anyway let alone pose a threat, haha. i'd only get a staff taxi if i'd been drinking myself cuz it's a fair walk.

You could move to Cornwall. Worst thing there is in Cornwall is smelly cows and even smellier old people. No muggers.

I take it, then, that Cornwall is in Iowa? :p

I am a killer haha so forget your questions

Compulsory gun ownership. "If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will carry guns." That's the problem with Britain and those Ultra-liberal small towns. Did you know that in some places it is illegal to defend yourself with a fire arm, even in the U.S.A? Of course, I would limit this to rifles, shotguns, and pistols, and still require permits for a concealed carry weapon. No possession of Abrams tanks or a mortar. But if you make readily accessible weapons legal, then you ensure that the law abiding citizens can have access to a modicom of self-defense. Britain should probably restrict the gun ban. Hell, we should follow the Swiss. The government has a dispenciary service so that any each and every household that desires it can acquire a free handgun, along with protective devices to ensure that it is not accessible to children. The result? Less crime. Plus, each barrel can be groove identified so that if these weapons are used in a crime, it makes for easy identification. Presto. Problem solved.:)

Tilean Free States: What city do you live in?

You could move to Cornwall. Worst thing there is in Cornwall is smelly cows and even smellier old people. No muggers.

*Leaves computer*
*Puts on coat*
*Walks to bus stop*
*Gets bus to the train station*
*Gets a train to Truro, changing at Birmingham International*
*Steps off the train*
*Gets bearings*
*Mugs a Cornishman*

Take that, absurd statement!

Seriously, although when you are the victim of crime it seems like society is going down the shitter, you have to remember that that's just your own bad luck - a statistical anomaly. Overall, crime has plumetted since the 'good old days', (I mean proper crime, every year parliament makes another silly activity illegal, creating the illusion of increasing crime).

It would be a huge mistake to react as if there was a civilisation-destroying crime wave amongst us, there is not, we are just being led to be afraid so that we are easier to control.

There's a lot wrong with the world but I think you need to stop walking down so many dark back allys. I feel bad you got mugged but three times in a year leads me to believe you should change your gameplan a little bit.

So today I got mugged again (this is the 3rd time now:mad:) and I'm fucking pissed. Our [British] Society is falling to bits and nothing is being done to stop it, our government keeps telling us about how we can help ourselves but what can 1 person do against a gang? If we arm ourselves with knives or other such instruments then we are the criminals, so what can we do? I watch the news and read the papers (The Sun, The Daily Mail and The Telegraph as I enjoy getting different perspectives on each story, so please do not think my opinion is biased to any particular point of view, I am Right-Wing but not blindly so.

Anyway, a Chinese woman in London was kicked to death by 4 men who go nothing, this was IN HER OWN HOME, not on the street and she did nothing to provoke the assault, a few hours later the same gang broke into another house and held a small child at knife point and demanded her father give them money, this man fought back and is to my mind a hero, and this gang, acting as the cowards they are, ran.

I was assaulted in May of this year and have been mugged 3 times since November last year, I have also had friends that have suffered similar crimes (on of my friends nearly lost an eye, he was punched with a sovereign ring and he was blind for 3 days following it)

So why does nobody do anything! We are all just expected to sit on our hands and let this filth tear our nation apart, if I were to take a shotgun and execute the scumbags that murder, rape and assault people everyday then it would be me who would be branded the criminal.

Thats it, I don't care if you like what I have to say, society is falling apart, everyday it gets worse, so if anyone can do anything then please, I urge you to do it, anything to stop the spiral of self-destruction.

That is all...

Looks like you need...THE BATMAN. *dons batman costume and books flight to Britain*:D

:D very clever...I hope

Yes, it wasn't just a slip.