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What contraceptive are you normally using?

I'm trying to make up my mind... I've relied mostly on condoms so far, but I was thinking of getting on the pill. I was wondering what experiences NSers made with different contraceptives?

Abstinence: the ultimate contraceptive. Only one case of it not working in human history!

Condoms alone are only effective about 60% to 70% of the time in the real world.

I use the pill + condoms (non-latex. Damn allergy) and they've worked fine so far :p. A few on my friends are on the contraceptive injection and they prefer it to the pill.

Condoms alone are only effective about 60% to 70% of the time in the real world.

lol

Abstinence: the ultimate contraceptive. Only one case of it not working in human history!

Condoms alone are only effective about 60% to 70% of the time in the real world.

98% (http://www.metrokc.gov/HEALTH/apu/healthed/background/condoms.htm), actually.

A few on my friends are on the contraceptive injection and they prefer it to the pill.

My wife's afraid of shots, so we have her on the pill. (Our insurance covers it, so it's free, unlike just about everything else.)

EDIT: We'd use Natural Family Planning, but those basal thermometers are so friggin' expensive.

Abstinence: the ultimate contraceptive. Only one case of it not working in human history!

depends on how you define 'abstinence'

Condoms alone are only effective about 60% to 70% of the time in the real world.

though essentially the entirety of the failure rate is made up by people that can't figure out how to use condoms properly. or merely intended to use one without actually, you know, using one.

I use the pill + condoms (non-latex. Damn allergy) and they've worked fine so far :p. A few on my friends are on the contraceptive injection and they prefer it to the pill.


Injections do sound good, as it won't mean that I could forget taking the pill... however, I've got a severe phobia when it comes to needles and syringes :(

What contraceptive are you normally using?

I'm trying to make up my mind... I've relied mostly on condoms so far, but I was thinking of getting on the pill. I was wondering what experiences NSers made with different contraceptives?

Condoms shouldn't be completely relied on for contraceptives, as they fail too frequently. You'd be best off using both condoms and the pill.

My wife's afraid of shots, so we have her on the pill. (Our insurance covers it, so it's free, unlike just about everything else.)

'We have her on the pill' - what is she, a dog?

Injections do sound good, as it won't mean that I could forget taking the pill... however, I've got a severe phobia when it comes to needles and syringes :(

Yeah thats whats putting me off, but my friends are just as scared of needles as me and they manage it. Long as you remember to take the pill though I don't see the need to go on the injection.

Condoms shouldn't be completely relied on for contraceptives, as they fail too frequently. You'd be best off using both condoms and the pill.

Although I've seen the statistics, I've yet to witness a case in my family or circle of friends of condoms failing....

'We have her on the pill' - what is she, a dog?

LOL, it was my poor attempt at humor. No seriously, it was her choice.

Although I've seen the statistics, I've yet to witness a case in my family or circle of friends of condoms failing....

Well, some might say you'd have to be very close to your family and friends to 'witness' the condom failing. ;)

Yeah thats whats putting me off, but my friends are just as scared of needles as me and they manage it. Long as you remember to take the pill though I don't see the need to go on the injection.

My thoughts exactly. The injections are only effective for 3 month each time, if I recall correctly. I might consider it if it meant I wouldn't have to think about it for a year or so...

Well, some might say you'd have to be very close to your family and friends to 'witness' the condom failing. ;)

*lol
I meant witness the effects of a failed condom ;)

My wife and I used the sure fire method...pregnancy! It works for 9 months at a time...: )

*lol
I meant witness the effects of a failed condom ;)

Well, I speak from personal experience when I say that they can. And, believe me, it's quite a frightening thing to happen. Much better to be on the pill and protected than go through the worry of getting the morning after pill and desperately waiting for your next period.

Abstinence: the ultimate contraceptive.

Well, I'd say a hysterectomy is pretty ultimate too... :p

My wife and I used the sure fire method...pregnancy! It works for 9 months at a time...: )

Yes, but we already have one kid. My wife hated being pregnant, she was miserable. That, in turn, necessarily made me miserable. No, we already decided the next one's going to be adopted.

Well, I'd say a hysterectomy is pretty ultimate too... :p

And castration. :D

I've been on the pill for years and I've never got pregnant despite having sex quite a few times :p



Condoms for me. Haven't really used anything else.

Well, I'd say a hysterectomy is pretty ultimate too... :p

So is being strictly lesbian. :D

So is being strictly lesbian. :D

That's nice... but I like a bit of variation ;)

:fluffle:

Giving out a false name and number's a pretty useful form of contraceptive tbh. At least, I've never knowingly got anyone pregnant so far...

Nah, seriously, femidoms. A good root around up there first followed by shagging a plastic bag, you can't beat it. :D

Again, I'll stop. Condoms, cos I've never been with anyone long enough to seriously consider starting the pill.

Just pull out. That's effective, isn't it?

*looks at my 7 kids*

though essentially the entirety of the failure rate is made up by people that can't figure out how to use condoms properly. or merely intended to use one without actually, you know, using one.

And one would guess that the same problems are at least as common among those who attempt abstinence.

rusty spoons <.<
>.>

For people on the pill: how did you find the right dose? It seems like a long and arduous process before I find something that's actually right.

And one would guess that the same problems are at least as common among those who attempt abstinence.

I don't get your point here. People who are abstinent get pregnant as often as those who use condoms?

For people on the pill: how did you find the right dose? It seems like a long and arduous process before I find something that's actually right.

My fiancée goes to the family planning clinic every 3-6 months. They do a few standard tests, like blood pressure and BMI, then give you the pills for the period. They're free in the UK, without prescription - I don't know how it works in other countries.

I don't get your point here. People who are abstinent get pregnant as often as those who use condoms?

No. People who attempt abstinence often fail to actually be abstinent and often dither about what exactly constitutes abstinence.

Abstinence: the ultimate contraceptive. Only one case of it not working in human history!


not really. there's loads if virgin birth myths from very diverse and seperate cultures.

My fiancée goes to the family planning clinic every 3-6 months. They do a few standard tests, like blood pressure and BMI, then give you the pills for the period. They're free in the UK, without prescription - I don't know how it works in other countries.
It has nothing to do with BMI and blood pressure dude. It's the hormone level that matters. If you naturally have higher hormone levels, you need higher doses of the hormone replacement to avoid breakthrough bleeding and other annoyances. And the only way to find out is of course, trying them out for three or four months at a time.

Ladies?

That's nice... but I like a bit of variation ;)

:fluffle:

Alright then, just for you I'll go a bit further.
Condoms have a 98% success rate when used properly. I'm going to assume you know how. Even so 2% may be more risk than you want to take.
Pills and injections will add to the security but please first check with a good doctor and reasearch things.
Some people get reactions to the shots and when they wear off you may experience stronger cramping,etc. A friend of mine named Rebecca tried it twice and felt lousy for the first 5 days after a shot, almost like she had the flu but with light bleeding added to make it more fun. Nothing for the rest of the 3 months but she decided it wasn't worth it.
The pill seems pretty widespread but their are reactions to that as well.
Talk to your doc about pros and cons for you. As opposed to in general and you may need to try it for a month to see if it agrees with your biochemistry.
I hope you find something good Cabra!
:fluffle:

It has nothing to do with BMI and blood pressure dude. It's the hormone level that matters. If you naturally have higher hormone levels, you need higher doses of the hormone replacement to avoid breakthrough bleeding and other annoyances. And the only way to find out is of course, trying them out for three or four months at a time.

Ladies?

Yes, what you've done here, 'dude', is concentrated on a minor point and ignored the main bit. You asked how you work things out; I told you - you go to the experts.

Vasectomy worked in my case, but it's a bit of a bitch now that my girlfriend and want to have kids. Insurance companies don't want to cover reversals for some reason. :p

Yes, what you've done here, 'dude', is concentrated on a minor point and ignored the main bit. You asked how you work things out; I told you - you go to the experts.
Now that's insight. Thank you so much.

For people on the pill: how did you find the right dose? It seems like a long and arduous process before I find something that's actually right.

Second ones I tried were fine for me. I didn't realise it was a long process for anyone :\

Alright then, just for you I'll go a bit further.
Condoms have a 98% failure rate when used properly.

Really? Failure? :p

Now that's insight. Thank you so much.

Just out of curiousity, when you have a problem with your car, do you spend months trying to figure out exactly what's wrong, changing each part bit by bit in the hope that eventually it'll be fixed?

Personally, I just take it to a mechanic. I'm sorry if that's an 'insight' too far for you to grasp.

I just pull out. :0

Really? Failure? :p

whoops! Editing now :p

The punchline to an old joke:

a swallow ;)

This link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7076150954671457483&q=genre%3Acomedy&hl=en) might prove helpful.

a swallow ;)

That's cruelty to animals.

Bada boom.

Injections do sound good, as it won't mean that I could forget taking the pill... however, I've got a severe phobia when it comes to needles and syringes :(
It's really very easy to get into a routine if you just take your pill when you brush your teeth or as soon as you get out of bed in the morning. Also, the ones I take (and various others, I'm sure) have a 12 hour time range in which you can take them. And if you do miss any, it's only 7 days until you're fully protected by it again.

If you use the pill properly (ie take it every day, and take extra precaution with vomiting etc) its 99.9999...% effective. Using a condom as well means you can feel pretty much 100% safe and it's great.

Talk to a doctor and talk about what you think will work best for you. If you start something and there are side effects, it should be easy enough to try and find one that suits you better.

Just out of curiousity, when you have a problem with your car, do you spend months trying to figure out exactly what's wrong, changing each part bit by bit in the hope that eventually it'll be fixed?

Personally, I just take it to a mechanic. I'm sorry if that's an 'insight' too far for you to grasp.

Philosophy,

Obviously my doctor has been involved. When did I imply that he was not? Even the doctor though, praise be he, can't look at you, plomp you on a scale, and perscribe the right pill. It's a matter of trial and error, and I was asking for some other people's experiences with it. You are not in a position to tell me of your experience, and further, you seem to have a profound ignorance of the issues related to pill dosage, so further comment is really extraneous.

That's cruelty to animals.

Bada boom.

Which reminds me of another joke.

What's the difference between kinky and perverted?

Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken.

Really? Failure? :p

:eek: The State of North Carolina was right! :eek:

Philosophy,
Kreitzmoorland,

Obviously my doctor has been involved. When did I imply that he was not?
Oh, I don't know. The bit where you replied to my friendly comment with sarcasm and rudeness, perhaps?
Even the doctor though, praise be he, can't look at you, plomp you on a scale, and perscribe the right pill.
You know, I'm not a doctor, but I'm fairly certain I could tell the 'contraceptive' pill apart from the 'make the leg drop off in the middle of the night' pill. The doctor should start you on the standard pill, and then change it if you're suffering side effects. All of them should work as contraceptives.

It's a matter of trial and error, and I was asking for some other people's experiences with it.You are not in a position to tell me of your experience, and further, you seem to have a profound ignorance of the issues related to pill dosage,
What a wonderful paragraph. "I'm asking for experiences, but you're not in a position to tell me of your experiences."

I made no comment whatsoever on 'the issues related to pill dosage', besides the fact that it's generally best to go to a clinic.

so further comment is really extraneous.
I get the impression that your personality is the best contraception anyone could ever have.

I get the impression that your personality is the best contraception anyone could ever have. I was taught that pants and Jesus were the best contraceptives.

My personality. It's worked so far!

Abstinence: the ultimate contraceptive. Only one case of it not working in human history!

Condoms alone are only effective about 60% to 70% of the time in the real world.

Sources?

Sources?

If I see anything with "The State of North Carolina" in it, it will be dismissed as an invalid source.

What contraceptive are you normally using?

I'm trying to make up my mind... I've relied mostly on condoms so far, but I was thinking of getting on the pill. I was wondering what experiences NSers made with different contraceptives?

Condoms can slip or break. I'd use a backup like spermicidal jelly and/or the pill. Can't be too careful if you don't want 18+ years of responsibility.

For people on the pill: how did you find the right dose? It seems like a long and arduous process before I find something that's actually right.

LOL shouldn't it be the the doctor's decision? Based on age, weight, and medical history?

Many of them start you out on the lo-dosage pill because it has fewer side effects. If that's not working (breakthrough bleeding and the like) they switch you to the full dose ones.

My girlfriend had an implant-thing put in her arm to take care of this. It lasts for three years but IIRC it can be taken out before then if you want. Wasn't an issue for us as we'll both be in university for almost all of that time. IIRC, it's as effective as the pill, with the added bonus that you don't have to do anything.

The needle they use to put it in is huge, apparently, and it leaves some lovely bruising on your arm for a week or two.

Oh, and you can push it around with your fingers once it's in there. That's hours of fun!

Kreitzmoorland,


Oh, I don't know. The bit where you replied to my friendly comment with sarcasm and rudeness, perhaps?

You know, I'm not a doctor, but I'm fairly certain I could tell the 'contraceptive' pill apart from the 'make the leg drop off in the middle of the night' pill. The doctor should start you on the standard pill, and then change it if you're suffering side effects. All of them should work as contraceptives.


What a wonderful paragraph. "I'm asking for experiences, but you're not in a position to tell me of your experiences."

I made no comment whatsoever on 'the issues related to pill dosage', besides the fact that it's generally best to go to a clinic.


I get the impression that your personality is the best contraception anyone could ever have. Yes, I get annoyed when males take it upon themselves to dole out self-evident advice like "go to a clinic", and "start out on a standard pill" to women who probably know more about the topic than they do. I've done my homework, and I carried out both of those gloriously obvious suggestions months ago. Your original comment may have been well-intended, but it came off as merely imbecilic. Apropos of my sentence structure and personality, these considerable deternats still seem to be insufficient to render the present conversation irelevant.

Alright then, just for you I'll go a bit further.
Condoms have a 98% success rate when used properly. I'm going to assume you know how. Even so 2% may be more risk than you want to take.
Pills and injections will add to the security but please first check with a good doctor and reasearch things.
Some people get reactions to the shots and when they wear off you may experience stronger cramping,etc. A friend of mine named Rebecca tried it twice and felt lousy for the first 5 days after a shot, almost like she had the flu but with light bleeding added to make it more fun. Nothing for the rest of the 3 months but she decided it wasn't worth it.
The pill seems pretty widespread but their are reactions to that as well.
Talk to your doc about pros and cons for you. As opposed to in general and you may need to try it for a month to see if it agrees with your biochemistry.
I hope you find something good Cabra!
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Thanks for the advise, I really appreciate it. I was going to get an appointment with a doctor sometime the next couple of weeks to talk things through and to figure out what pill would be best for me. I'm guessing I'll need one of the stronger ones due to my body mass....
My boyfriend promised to come along, too, just in case they want to do a blood test for anything (did I mention my little phobia of needles?).

I tend to get cramps a few days befreo my periods, and I'm hoping to find a pill that would lessen that as well, if possible.

:fluffle:

Contraception is useless to me.

Protective barriers aren't, though, so condoms by default.

Abstinence? Hah! Now there's a fate crueller than either children or HIV.

My girlfriend really hates pills so I'm going to ask if you wants to try this:

http://www.fpa.org.uk/guide/contracep/conimp.htm

My girlfriend really hates pills so I'm going to ask if you wants to try this:

http://www.fpa.org.uk/guide/contracep/conimp.htm

Yeah, that's the thing I was mumbling on about

My girlfriend had an implant-thing put in her arm to take care of this. It lasts for three years but IIRC it can be taken out before then if you want. Wasn't an issue for us as we'll both be in university for almost all of that time. IIRC, it's as effective as the pill, with the added bonus that you don't have to do anything.

The needle they use to put it in is huge, apparently, and it leaves some lovely bruising on your arm for a week or two.

Oh, and you can push it around with your fingers once it's in there. That's hours of fun!

I've heard of those. But seeing that I'm scared shitless when confronted with a regular needle, I don't even want to imagine being in the same room as the needle you describe there...

*runs away*

Contraception is useless to me.

Protective barriers aren't, though, so condoms by default.

Abstinence? Hah! Now there's a fate crueller than either children or HIV.

According to the State of North Carolina, abstinence is a far better fate, protective barriers are useless and so is contraception.

Though I know better. ;)

And by that I mean I know about condoms and other BC methods, not about the abstinence thing.

I get the impression that your personality is the best contraception anyone could ever have.

No offense. but this is quite funny. I should use this for my new sig.

My girlfriend really hates pills so I'm going to ask if you wants to try this:

http://www.fpa.org.uk/guide/contracep/conimp.htm

Well, I heard of them. But for some reason, the idea of having that implant freakes me out, too.
And this from a girl with tattoo and piercings... yep, it's a strange world.

I've heard of those. But seeing that I'm scared shitless when confronted with a regular needle, I don't even want to imagine being in the same room as the needle you describe there...

*runs away*

I have a friend who has one of those. She couldn't make her Doctor's appointment at the time it was meant to be changed, so she tried to take it out herself. The scar, and the description of what she'd done, was far too much for squeamish little me to take. :p

My girlfriend really hates pills so I'm going to ask if you wants to try this:

http://www.fpa.org.uk/guide/contracep/conimp.htm

There's also the iud.

Thanks for the advise, I really appreciate it. I was going to get an appointment with a doctor sometime the next couple of weeks to talk things through and to figure out what pill would be best for me. I'm guessing I'll need one of the stronger ones due to my body mass....
My boyfriend promised to come along, too, just in case they want to do a blood test for anything (did I mention my little phobia of needles?).

I tend to get cramps a few days befreo my periods, and I'm hoping to find a pill that would lessen that as well, if possible.

:fluffle:

I hear that is an effect experienced by many.

I've heard bad things about the shot, the one you get every three months.... the Depo-Provera shot, that's the one. It can cause a loss of bone density, leading to osteoporosis, and many women find that even after they've stopped getting the injections, they still can't conceive - some women can't for years afterwards.

There was a good web page I was looking at once, but I can't find it. If you google "Depo Provera side effects", you'll see a couple pages that talk about this. However, I've never actually talked to a doctor about it, so I've not a professional's opinion.

Has anyone ever used the NuvaRing? That little ring one inserts once a month, leaves in for three weeks, removes for a week, etc? You don't have to remember daily pills, and I think it has a lower dosage than oral contraceptives. I'm considering it, because I've never used anything but condoms with my SO, but it would be nice to find something else. Besides, I have irregular periods (REALLY irregular, like once every eight months irregular), and it would be nice to regulate them somehow. Plus, the symptoms I experience with my periods are like eight months' worth all crammed into a week. I can barely leave my bed until it's over.

According to the State of North Carolina, abstinence is a far better fate, protective barriers are useless and so is contraception.

The state of North Carolina can rim my ass.

I've been relying on condoms lately. (98% effctiveness and all)

I used to be on the pill as well, but then I discovered that my family does have a history of bloodclots leading to things like heart attacks and strokes, so I got off them. I was thinking about getting a diaphragm, but that really sounds like a huge pain in the ass to deal with.

Although I haven't had much sex lately, my bf is having trouble finding the right size condoms...

The state of North Carolina can rim my ass.

It also condemns homosexual behavior, so it won't.

Although I've seen the statistics, I've yet to witness a case in my family or circle of friends of condoms failing....
One of my friends had one break on her. She had to go get the morning after pill. I think the deal was that her guy didn't put it on right.

One of my friends had one break on her. She had to go get the morning after pill. I think the deal was that her guy didn't put it on right.

That wouldn't happen if these god-awful anti-sex ed classes were illegal.

It also condemns homosexual behavior, so it won't.

You mean like that Haggart person? Oh, so it will, and probably already has...

One of my friends had one break on her. She had to go get the morning after pill. I think the deal was that her guy didn't put it on right.

That's something I think I'll never understand... it's not really rocket science, is it, putting one of those thing on? They even have the instructions on the package, just in case.

That wouldn't happen if these god-awful anti-sex ed classes were illegal.
Well, no, this is in Canada, so the probably had sex ed.

I dunno, I've known guys who weren't going to squeeze the air out of the tip or something like that and I had to do it. Even with sex ed some people don't pay attention to every detail.

I know there are also issues of guys buying condoms that are too small and the like and then they break. It makes me glad that my bf is responsable and doesn't try to go with ones that are too small.

That's something I think I'll never understand... it's not really rocket science, is it, putting one of those thing on? They even have the instructions on the package, just in case.
Yeah, I dunno why people can't seem to get them right sometimes. *shrugs*

That's something I think I'll never understand... it's not really rocket science, is it, putting one of those thing on? They even have the instructions on the package, just in case.Yeah, but when you're taught that sex is dirty and that you're a slut if you know how to use a condom, it's not all that surprising if you fuck it up. I think it's hard to comprehend just how backwards some parts of the US are when it comes to sex.

vasectomy :D

That's something I think I'll never understand... it's not really rocket science, is it, putting one of those thing on? They even have the instructions on the package, just in case.

Not everyone uses one's hands to put them on. There are more interesting ways.

Not everyone uses one's hands to put them on. There are more interesting ways.

....................Do we want to know those interesting ways?

I've been pretty happy with homosexuality as a contraceptive.

I've been pretty happy with homosexuality as a contraceptive.

It definitely roxxorz my boxxorz.

....................Do we want to know those interesting ways?

Oh, don't play innocent with me.

Oh, don't play innocent with me.

I believe Darknovae is quite young, so innocence might be the best order of the day.

Oh, don't play innocent with me.

Well I wouldn't know!

I believe Darknovae is quite young, so innocence might be the best order of the day.

14, so yes. *nod*

I believe Darknovae is quite young, so innocence might be the best order of the day.

They're never too young to be conver... I mean educated.

Well I wouldn't know!

Well, one does have other means of manipulating a condom than one's upper extremities. There is the mouth, for one.

Yeah, but when you're taught that sex is dirty and that you're a slut if you know how to use a condom, it's not all that surprising if you fuck it up. I think it's hard to comprehend just how backwards some parts of the US are when it comes to sex.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Seriously, discussions about abstinence only education never fail to make me laugh and shake my head. And I keep wondering what would happen if it became known to the general public on the other side of the Atlantic that over here, children are thouroughly being taught how to use condoms, even in Catholic schools. I'll never forget dear Sister Ursula showing us how to get the condom out of the wrapper (something my boyfriend struggles with to this day), squeeze the air out of the tip, place the tip on the penis and then gently roll it down without pulling it....

They're never too young to be conver... I mean educated.

Curse you and your dastardly homosexual world domination plot!

Not everyone uses one's hands to put them on. There are more interesting ways.

I try to avoid those... most condoms just taste awful.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
Seriously, discussions about abstinence only education never fail to make me laugh and shake my head. And I keep wondering what would happen if it became known to the general public on the other side of the Atlantic that over here, children are thouroughly being taught how to use condoms, even in Catholic schools. I'll never forget dear Sister Ursula showing us how to get the condom out of the wrapper (something my boyfriend struggles with to this day), squeeze the air out of the tip, place the tip on the penis and then gently roll it down without pulling it....

I learned that from the Planned Parenthood site. Just not the anti-sex ed class.

Curse you and your dastardly homosexual world domination plot!

Oh, you know you'd love me mastering you.

I try to avoid those... most condoms just taste awful.

I find they tend not to taste much, myself, and I loathe the flavoured ones... but, you do know you're not supposed to suck on the condom? *really hopes you did not try having oral sex with a condom*

Curse you and your dastardly homosexual world domination plot!

Isn't Fass a guy?

And if he tries to convert- uh, educate me, it's not goign to work.

Isn't Fass a guy?

Yup.

And if he tries to convert- uh, educate me, it's not goign to work.

Yes, that is the official line. Very good. Almost made me believe it. You have been indoctrinated well.

I find they tend not to taste much, myself, and I loathe the flavoured ones...
Normally they tend to have an intense plastic taste.

but, you do know you're not supposed to suck on the condom? *really hopes you did not try having oral sex with a condom*

Oh god no, what do you take me for? But they leave an aftertaste when taken off again... it does spoil the experience, I think.

Yup.



Yes, that is the official line. Very good. Almost made me believe it. You have been indoctrinated well.

Aren't you also gay? I thought gay guys couldn't convert girls.... ;)

Aren't you also gay? I thought gay guys couldn't convert girls.... ;)

Gaydiation does not discriminate based on sex, sweetie. I can prime you to be more open to the homosexual experience, and then use one of out lesbian minions to take home the goal, as it were.

We are a dastardly lot, as previously mentioned, but seeing as we deliver you into a higher and better plane of existence, it's all good.

Gaydiation does not discriminate based on sex, sweetie. I can prime you to be more open to the homosexual experience, and then use one of out lesbian minions to take home the goal, as it were.

We are a dastardly lot, as previously mentioned, but seeing as we deliver you into a higher and better plane of existence, it's all good.

Errr.... no thank you. I don't hate gays, but I'm happy being straight/leaning asexual. ;)

Normally they tend to have an intense plastic taste.

Are condoms different where you live or where I live or something? I really don't think they taste much at all, but maybe I'm used to it...

Oh god no, what do you take me for? But they leave an aftertaste when taken off again... it does spoil the experience, I think.

Ah, but I am of the opinion that very, very few things can spoil the experience. :)

I find they tend not to taste much, myself, and I loathe the flavoured ones... but, you do know you're not supposed to suck on the condom? *really hopes you did not try having oral sex with a condom*

But then why are they flavored? :confused:

Errr.... no thank you. I don't hate gays, but I'm happy being straight/leaning asexual. ;)

"Happy" - pishposh. Heterosexuals/asexuals cannot lead happy lives. Everyone knows that... fortunately, the old adage of "being gay is not a choice" is true, because we don't tend to give new recruits a choice. :)

"Happy" - pishposh. Heterosexuals/asexuals cannot lead happy lives. Everyone knows that... fortunately, the old adage of "being gay is not a choice" is true, because we don't tend to give new recruits a choice. :)

I've been relatively happy so far.

But then why are they flavored? :confused:

Some people think it's more fun to lick something that taste like chocolate instead of something that either doesn't taste much (as in the case of condoms) or something that taste like penis (in the case of penis.) I am very partial to the latter taste myself, so no artificial flavourings for me.

Are condoms different where you live or where I live or something? I really don't think they taste much at all, but maybe I'm used to it...


Maybe my tastebuds are more developed... or I need to try a different brand.


Ah, but I am of the opinion that very, very few things can spoil the experience. :)

Oh, next to nothing. And the plastic taste was gone again soon enough anyway :)

I've been relatively happy so far.

That's what you say, but you have a limited, heterosexual frame of reference.

That's what you say, but you have a limited, heterosexual frame of reference.

I somehow hope you can tolerate us bisexuals?

Maybe my tastebuds are more developed... or I need to try a different brand.



Oh, next to nothing. And the plastic taste was gone again soon enough anyway :)

Nobody answered my question. Why the hell are they flavore dif you're not supposed to suck on them????????? :confused:

That's what you say, but you have a limited, heterosexual frame of reference.

Even more limited, since I'm also a virgin.....

Maybe my tastebuds are more developed... or I need to try a different brand.

I just use regular RFSL ones. Well, not regular, I use the "Okeido" ones. (http://www.xessentials.co.uk/rfsu/okeido) Just a bit wider, because I don't like when they pinch.

Oh, next to nothing. And the plastic taste was gone again soon enough anyway :)

That is mighty fortunate.

Nobody answered my question. Why the hell are they flavore dif you're not supposed to suck on them????????? :confused:

http://forums3.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11970766&postcount=105

Nobody answered my question. Why the hell are they flavore dif you're not supposed to suck on them????????? :confused:

Well, you can lick them, but I think mostly they're novelty items. Just as pointless as ribbed condoms... they don't really provide that much more stimulation in my experience.

Some people think it's more fun to lick something that taste like chocolate instead of something that either doesn't taste much (as in the case of condoms) or something that taste like penis (in the case of penis.) I am very partial to the latter taste myself, so no artificial flavourings for me.

Ah, finally found it.

Even more limited, since I'm also a virgin.....

Ah, even better! Then you need not ever subject yourself to the inferior kind of sex. Groovy!

I somehow hope you can tolerate us bisexuals?

Since you don't really exist, I can ignore you. That ok? :P

I just use regular RFSL ones. Well, not regular, I use the "Okeido" ones. (http://www.xessentials.co.uk/rfsu/okeido) Just a bit wider, because I don't like when they pinch.

I normally use Durex featherlight (http://www.xessentials.co.uk/durex/fetherlite)... for the simple reason that those are the ones always available in large packs ;)


That is mighty fortunate.

I believe those were almost his exact words, yes. :D

Since you don't really exist, I can ignore you. That ok? :P

I.... I don't??? :eek:
But the who gave my boyfriend a blowjob this morning?

Gaydiation does not discriminate based on sex, sweetie. I can prime you to be more open to the homosexual experience, and then use one of out lesbian minions to take home the goal, as it were.

We are a dastardly lot, as previously mentioned, but seeing as we deliver you into a higher and better plane of existence, it's all good.

I always wanted a lesbian minion.

Ah, even better! Then you need not ever subject yourself to the inferior kind of sex. Groovy!

ew. I don't get people who go far enough down the straight and narrow to have sex with a woman, and only *then* realize they're gay. I never once looked at a girl lustfully until I tried, deliberately, because I thought it would give me more in common to talk about with the straight guy I liked. it obviously didn't work.

I.... I don't??? :eek:
But the who gave my boyfriend a blowjob this morning?

Precisely, your "boyfriend." Not your girlfriend.

Precisely, your "boyfriend." Not your girlfriend.

Ah, I see what you mean. So, in order to be bisexual, I'd have to have a boyfriend and a girlfriend simultaneously?

I always wanted a lesbian minion.

They can be easily lured into servitude with the aid of some Indigo Girls or Le Tigre CDs and some candles.

Don't ask me why, but candles are like catnip to lesbians. They're crazy about them.

ew. I don't get people who go far enough down the straight and narrow to have sex with a woman, and only *then* realize they're gay. I never once looked at a girl lustfully until I tried, deliberately, because I thought it would give me more in common to talk about with the straight guy I liked. it obviously didn't work.

I did it mostly because I wanted to see if I could and I could, physically, by thinking of what I think of when I wank, but the experience was overall awful. Just awful. *tries his best not to reminisce*

Ah, I see what you mean. So, in order to be bisexual, I'd have to have a boyfriend and a girlfriend simultaneously?

No, you'd actually have to choose a girl for a stable LTR for once. For some reason, bisexuals have this tendency not to that, but end up in heterosexual relationships instead - treating their alleged homosexual side as nothing more than a kink they'd like to imply they could still indulge in, but never do. Makes their moms happier.

No, you'd actually have to choose a girl for a stable LTR for once. For some reason, bisexuals have this tendency not to that, but end up in heterosexual relationships instead - treating their alleged homosexual side as nothing more than a kink they'd like to imply they could still indulge in, but never do. Makes their moms happier.

It's my theory that the majority of humans is bisexual to some degree. Being perfectly straight or perfectly gay are just the extremes of the spectrum, but most people are somewhere between the two.
Most people choose to follow their straight tendencies exclussively, as that's the socially acceptable thing to do.
I'm not 100% in the middle, I think. I'd say I'm 65-70% straight, and 35-30% Lesbian... if that makes any sense...

It's my theory that the majority of humans is bisexual to some degree.

And my theory is a direct response spurned by that exact bisupremacist theory that is so often uttered by bisexuals - that no one is bisexual.

See, not so much fun when someone tells you you're "really" something else than what you think you are?

Being perfectly straight or perfectly gay are just the extremes of the spectrum, but most people are somewhere between the two.
Most people choose to follow their straight tendencies exclussively, as that's the socially acceptable thing to do.
I'm not 100% in the middle, I think. I'd say I'm 65-70% straight, and 35-30% Lesbian... if that makes any sense...

Not in the least, since I reserve the right to dictate to you your sexual orientation as bisexuals so often do to me and to others who are not bisexual; like you just did.

And my theory is a direct response spurned by that exact bisupremacist theory that is so often uttered by bisexuals - that no one is bisexual.

See, not so much fun when someone tells you you're "really" something else than what you think you are?

There was nothing to stop you from being one of the ones at the extreme. The gay extreme, obviously (in case that wasn't really obvious to everyone ever)

And my theory is a direct response spurned by that exact bisupremacist theory that is so often uttered by bisexuals - that no one is bisexual.

See, not so much fun when someone tells you you're "really" something else than what you think you are?



Not in the least, since I reserve the right to dictate to you your sexual orientation as bisexuals so often do to me and to others who are not bisexual; like you just did.

Huh?
When did I dictate you your orientation? From what I can tell, you're as gay as gay can be, and making sure that really everybody knows about that...

So what would you call a person who has a boyfriend, had girlfriends in the past (although admittedly not for LTRs), and enjoys sex with both male and female?

There was nothing to stop you from being one of the ones at the extreme. The gay extreme, obviously (in case that wasn't really obvious to everyone ever)

He is at the extreme called Fassigen. I am at the extreme called Philosopy. You are at the extreme called Heron-Marked Warriors.

Why do people have such an obsession with labelling sexuality, and telling people that they must fit into one artificial box or another? Just be yourself, and be attracted to who you are attracted to.

There was nothing to stop you from being one of the ones at the extreme.

This "extreme" that exists as an "extreme" only if one buys the "we're all truly bisexual deep down inside" gobbledegook.

No one is "truly bisexual deep down inside." There.

So what would you call a person who has a boyfriend, had girlfriends in the past (although admittedly not for LTRs), and enjoys sex with both male and female?

Confused? Desperate? ;)

This "extreme" that exists as an "extreme" only if one buys the "we're all truly bisexual deep down inside" gobbledegook.

No one is "truly bisexual deep down inside." There.

Oh, right.
I forgot that deep down inside, we're of course all homosexual. How silly of me. :rolleyes:

He is at the extreme called Fassigen. I am at the extreme called Philosopy. You are at the extreme called Heron-Marked Warriors.

Why do people have such an obsession with labelling sexuality, and telling people that they must fit into one artificial box or another? Just be yourself, and be attracted to who you are attracted to.

Because if I can't fit people into boxes, how will I ever refer to them as a group?

Labels are useful

Confused? Desperate? ;)

:p

No one is "truly bisexual deep down inside." There.

There would seem to be a number of individuals who are "truly bisexual on the surface", however

Huh?
When did I dictate you your orientation?

When you just claimed most people were bisexual. What, it's okay for you to claim that they are, and not for me to claim that they're not?

From what I can tell, you're as gay as gay can be, and making sure that really everybody knows about that...

I do fight the good fight rather well, don't I? And I don't even need any cockamamie claims of what "most other people are" to do it, except as in a response to people who try to claim what most people are of course.

So what would you call a person who has a boyfriend, had girlfriends in the past (although admittedly not for LTRs), and enjoys sex with both male and female?

Imaginary, if claimed to be bisexual.

Oh, right.
I forgot that deep down inside, we're of course all homosexual. How silly of me. :rolleyes:

What, it's not fun having people tell you what you are, denying your sexual orientation or describing it as some sort of freakish, deluded "extreme?"

Maybe you should stop doing it yourself, then.

There would seem to be a number of individuals who are "truly bisexual on the surface", however

As I said, an oh, so interesting kink one can talk about at cocktail parties, or use to rebel against one's mummy and daddy.

When you just claimed most people were bisexual. What, it's okay for you to claim that they are, and not for me to claim that they're not?

Where did I say it wasn't ok? And where did I say you were "most people"? I would have assumed that you'd be the first to deny having too much in common with "most people", and rather happy about being regarded as extreme.
I may have been wrong in assuming that, I do apologise if I insulted you.


I do fight the good fight rather well, don't I? And I don't even need any cockamamie claims of what "most other people are" to do it, except as in a response to people who try to claim what most people are of course.

Most other people are what they are. I just made the experience that there are far more bi-curious people (I have a feeling you'll flame me to kingdom com for using that word) out there than upright moral citizens would have you believe.


Imaginary.

That would mean that you're just having a nice little conversation with an imaginary person... Freud would be so proud of you.

What, it's not fun having people tell you what you are, denying your sexual orientation or describing it as some sort of freakish, deluded "extreme?"

Maybe you should stop doing it yourself, then.

I never told anybody what they are. I'm sorry if it came across that way.

And I most certainly didn't mean to call anybody freakish or deluded. :(

It's my theory that the majority of humans is bisexual to some degree. Being perfectly straight or perfectly gay are just the extremes of the spectrum, but most people are somewhere between the two.
Most people choose to follow their straight tendencies exclussively, as that's the socially acceptable thing to do.
I'm not 100% in the middle, I think. I'd say I'm 65-70% straight, and 35-30% Lesbian... if that makes any sense...
Hey, me too! (the % break down...)

Though I've never done anything with a girl, there have been some I've had crushes on but I don't know how to hit on girls or assertain a girl's interest in other girls (I mean, rejection would be bad enough, but rejection after outing oneself...) and I'm certainly not one of those girls who points out bisexuality to male partners to give them some idea of future possible threesomes or anything like that. I'm usually pretty quiet about it until I'm comfortable with a guy (due to assumptions like that and because some guys don't trust bi girls or the like... one ex would go on about how "those bis" would always try to make deals in relationships where they get to fuck other people...)

What contraceptive are you normally using?

I'm trying to make up my mind... I've relied mostly on condoms so far, but I was thinking of getting on the pill. I was wondering what experiences NSers made with different contraceptives?

I was on the pill for about 2.5 years. I went off it and it took almost two years until my period was back to normal.
Which, um, shocked me a bit, because I'm usually someone whose body doesn't react very sensitively to medication or changes in lifestyle or diet or whatever.
So, since, I figure there's a bit more of a hormonal impact than one thinks, considering that "every woman" is on the pill.

Other than the pill, the only thing I've ever used are condoms.

But since I once had an unfortunate event involving a ruptured condom (I took the Morning After Pill) I wouldn't rely on condoms alone when having sex regularly. It would be back on the pill, I guess.


ETA: I didn't read through the thread first... sorry for interrupting the discussion. :p

Where did I say it wasn't ok? And where did I say you were "most people"? I would have assumed that you'd be the first to deny having too much in common with "most people", and rather happy about being regarded as extreme.
I may have been wrong in assuming that, I do apologise if I insulted you.

Of course you insulted me, and of course you insulted everyone out there who isn't bisexual - that is to say, most people - even the straight ones - when you claimed that "most were bisexual." Most people really aren't, and the more I see bisexuals claim that they are, the less I will be inclined to believe that even they themselves are, because it reeks of insecurity and overcompensation.

Most other people are what they are. I just made the experience that there are far more bi-curious people (I have a feeling you'll flame me to kingdom com for using that word) out there than upright moral citizens would have you believe.

That would mean that you're just having a nice little conversation with an imaginary person... Freud would be so proud of you.

And you're just projecting your own wishful thinking on other people, which would make Freud "love you good longer time" than me. That's OK, you can have him - I'm not into smokers.

What, it's not fun having people tell you what you are, denying your sexual orientation or describing it as some sort of freakish, deluded "extreme?"

Maybe you should stop doing it yourself, then.I don't think Cabra was implying that it's freakish or deluded. I find it plausable that the two 'extremes' comprise most of the population with a minority of people all alongthe spectrum, like a dumbbell shape.

Clearly there are drunken teenage girls who like to make out with other girls at parties for attention, but who aren't attracted to women at all and wouldn't enjoy sex with them. But I see no point denying that there are some people that are genuinely attracted to both. As you've said telling other people what they are and aren't is ridiculous.

I never told anybody what they are.

"It's my theory that the majority of humans is bisexual to some degree."

I'm sorry if it came across that way.

It's pretty hard to have it come across as anything else, really.

And I most certainly didn't mean to call anybody freakish or deluded. :(

Next time maybe you'll refrain from telling the majority of us humans what we are, then? Or at least stop to think before you do.

I don't think Cabra was implying that it's freakish or deluded. I find it plausable that the two 'extremes' comprise most of the population with a minority of people all alongthe spectrum, like a dumbbell shape.

She claimed that the majority of humans are bisexual. One need not be part of the Nielsen company to see that most people do not claim to be bisexual - most say they are heterosexual. Regrettable that they are, yes, but it is what they are.

Now, if they "truly, deep down inside are bisexual" then there is no other conclusion that one can draw apart from all of them being deluded about their own sexual orientations, which of course these bisupremacists know better than they do themselves.

Clearly there are drunken teenage girls who like to make out with other girls at parties for attention, but who aren't attracted to women at all and wouldn't enjoy sex with them. But I see no point denying that there are some people that are genuinely attracted to both. As you've said telling other people what they are and aren't is ridiculous.

I shall stop denying the existence of bisexuality when I see that bisexuals have learnt that it's equally as ugly of them to claim people to be like them as it is of me to claim that no one is like them.

She claimed that the majority of humans are bisexual. One need not be part of the Nielsen company to see that most people do not claim to be bisexual - most say they are heterosexual. Regrettable that they are, yes, but it is what they are.

Now, if they "truly, deep down inside are bisexual" then there is no other conclusion that one can draw apart from all of them being deluded about their own sexual orientations, which of course these bisupremacists know better than they do themselves.Yes, it seems logical from the data that most people do have a definite, even absolute preference. But it also shows a minority of bisexuals.


I shall stop denying the existence of bisexuality when I see that bisexuals have learnt that it's equally as ugly of them to claim people to be like them as it is of me to claim that no one is like them.So you are employing a strategic rhetorical denial. I prefer to deny what I think is false, and state what I think is true.

For example, in this case: bisexuals exist, they are a minority, they should quit lumping others in with them, and others aught to quit denying they exist.

She claimed that the majority of humans are bisexual. One need not be part of the Nielsen company to see that most people do not claim to be bisexual - most say they are heterosexual. Regrettable that they are, yes, but it is what they are.

Now, if they "truly, deep down inside are bisexual" then there is no other conclusion that one can draw apart from all of them being deluded about their own sexual orientations, which of course these bisupremacists know better than they do themselves.



I shall stop denying the existence of bisexuality when I see that bisexuals have learnt that it's equally as ugly of them to claim people to be like them as it is of me to claim that no one is like them.


Sorry if it's been brought up already, but what about that Kinsey study?

As I said, an oh, so interesting kink one can talk about at cocktail parties, or use to rebel against one's mummy and daddy.
Why do you assume that most bisexual people use it as a topic of conversation at cocktail parties? Or for that matter, give a shit what their parents think about their sexual activities (or really, that any sexual activities wouldn't be rebelling against strict parents)

I've heard bad things about the shot, the one you get every three months.... the Depo-Provera shot, that's the one. It can cause a loss of bone density, leading to osteoporosis, and many women find that even after they've stopped getting the injections, they still can't conceive - some women can't for years afterwards.

There was a good web page I was looking at once, but I can't find it. If you google "Depo Provera side effects", you'll see a couple pages that talk about this. However, I've never actually talked to a doctor about it, so I've not a professional's opinion.

Has anyone ever used the NuvaRing? That little ring one inserts once a month, leaves in for three weeks, removes for a week, etc? You don't have to remember daily pills, and I think it has a lower dosage than oral contraceptives. I'm considering it, because I've never used anything but condoms with my SO, but it would be nice to find something else. Besides, I have irregular periods (REALLY irregular, like once every eight months irregular), and it would be nice to regulate them somehow. Plus, the symptoms I experience with my periods are like eight months' worth all crammed into a week. I can barely leave my bed until it's over.

I'm currently on the Nuva Ring and it is, at least in my experience, the best thing ever. I used to be on Depo Provera, and I did experience bad side effects, mainly depression, and extreme irritability. I was told by my doctor to stop taking it. I wasn't keen on the pill, because I didn't like the idea of taking a pill everyday at the same time, hence the main reason I was on the needle was for my (lack of) memory. He suggested Nuva Ring to me, and have been very glad to have made the switch. It made my monthly, well, more monthly lol, and basically took away all the bad stuff I experienced(cramps, mood swings, anemia, etc). I have however, gained weight, but not a lot(one of the possible side effects of the ring is increased appetite, but no complaints here) and my boobs basically doubled in size(we're talking from B's to D's):eek: . I would suggest going to the Nuva Ring website, they have more information there.

There's this article called "the five sexes: why male and female is not enough" by some bio-anthropologist called Anne Fausto-Sterling and she has studied mosquitoes and discovered that sexuality(male/female sexuality) exists on a spectrum. Perhaps sexual attraction is the same and exists on a specturm also, where heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual mark only the extremes and middle of the sexual spectrum. I think that there is also a distinction between sexual preference and biological attraction. Hetero/homo/bi pick out preferences but do not pick out the biological component accurately.