NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok. We've had the usual crap about stampedes and gang warfare over consoles. Now we've got a critical lack of hardware (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/rumor-no-20-gb-ps3s-coming-215234.php), poor HDMI support (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gizmodo/one-mans-ps3-hdmi-issues-215190.php), AND poor HD support (http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html). Combine that overwhelmingly poor launch titles (here (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929232.asp), here (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932329.asp), here (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155336)), and it's flagship title, Resistance: Fall of Man, receive reviews of "great, but nothing to write home about." Not to mention that outrageous price they expect you to pay for all that.

So, is the PS3 the worst major console launch in history?

I agree. I'm either going to get nintendo Wii or wait until Xbox 360 goes down.

I know it's certainly one of the least appealing consoles I've seen and easily the most unappealing of this generation. It's too expensive and there aren't nearly enough must-have games to justify that kind of price. Only game I really want for it is Final Fantasy 13, and not only is that not out yet but I'm certainly not spending $600 or $700 just to play it.
However, I do plan on leaving to get the Wii soon =)

PS3 was SUPPOSED to be one console we were all be waiting for! :confused:What happened Sony??

Prepare to be set upon by supernerds, both here and in the real world, who will try to convince you of the "error" of your ways. When this happens, I advise using the Wii Nunchuck controller to beat them senseless.

PS3 was SUPPOSED to be one console we were all be waiting for! :confused:What happened Sony??

Nothing that every Nintendo Fanboy ever, and most of the Sony ones, didn't expect.

I know it's certainly one of the least appealing consoles I've seen and easily the most unappealing of this generation. It's too expensive and there aren't nearly enough must-have games to justify that kind of price. Only game I really want for it is Final Fantasy 13, and not only is that not out yet but I'm certainly not spending $600 or $700 just to play it.
However, I do plan on leaving to get the Wii soon =)

Agreed. Except about the Wii, I'm happy with my 360.

Prepare to be set upon by supernerds, both here and in the real world, who will try to convince you of the "error" of your ways. When this happens, I advise using the Wii Nunchuck controller to beat them senseless.

That controller is so cool!
Let's face it,it's the most original thing in the gaming world to date-PS3 have the same controllers as they did for PS1,all those years ago.

Agreed. Except about the Wii, I'm happy with my 360.

The 360 is cool.I wanna get Gears of War,that game looks teh sex.

all consoles are teh gay.

I just took your advice and beat a good friend (nerd) who said that Playstation 3 was the best even with all the bugs and six hundred bugs. I think I will beat him again.

That controller is so cool!
Let's face it,it's the most original thing in the gaming world to date-PS3 have the same controllers as they did for PS1,all those years ago.

There is a reason PS3 controllers are like that. Sony developed the perfect controller. It's no accident that if you buy a USB controller for you PC, it will be a duplicate ofa PS3 controller.

Wii. wii buy anything else?

There is a reason PS3 controllers are like that. Sony developed the perfect controller. It's no accident that if you buy a USB controller for you PC, it will be a duplicate ofa PS3 controller.

And now this, eh? Figures.

There is a reason PS3 controllers are like that. Sony developed the perfect controller. It's no accident that if you buy a USB controller for you PC, it will be a duplicate ofa PS3 controller.

Pfhhh. The XBox controller is far better than the PS controller. The PS controller is so rigid and stiff.

And now this, eh? Figures.

To be honest I'm not Sony's biggest fan, and it's absolutely astounding how badly they've managed to go from being virtually synonymous with console gaming in general, with masses of public support and have just frittered it away with the PS3, but I've got to admit that the PS2 controller is about as close to perfection IMO as you're going to get in controllers of that type.

Wii. wii buy anything else?

We buy anything else?

Pfhhh. The XBox controller is far better than the PS controller. The PS controller is so rigid and stiff.
Whereas you can't reach half the buttons on the XBox controller.


EDIT: Out of curiosity, does the Wii happen to have a not-sucky controller?

EDIT: Out of curiosity, does the Wii happen to have a not-sucky controller?
the wii has the worst of them all. it's a fucking tv remote.

the wii has the worst of them all. it's a fucking tv remote.

.... which can be used as a sword..... Whats not to love?

Whereas you can't reach half the buttons on the XBox controller.

Yes you can. The 360 controller is almost perfect.

Pfhhh. The XBox controller is far better than the PS controller. The PS controller is so rigid and stiff.

The Xbox controller feels better to hold, you have to work your hands to get ahold of the PS crap, but the 'box just kinda fits.


Xbox is the greatest console. Ever.

the wii has the worst of them all. it's a fucking tv remote.

You mean Tv remotes, those things that people everywhere use?

Whereas you can't reach half the buttons on the XBox controller.

What can't you get too? It's perfect!

The Xbox controller feels better to hold, you have to work your hands to get ahold of the PS crap, but the 'box just kinda fits.

Maybe you're talking about the 360, I haven't tried that yet, but Xbox controllers are ridiculously huge.

Maybe you're talking about the 360, I haven't tried that yet, but Xbox controllers are ridiculously huge.

What about the Controller S?

Pfhhh. The XBox controller is far better than the PS controller. The PS controller is so rigid and stiff.
Rigid and stiff? Find me a xbox controller made out of rubber and I might care about your opinion.

What about the Controller S?

Controller S?

Maybe you're talking about the 360, I haven't tried that yet, but Xbox controllers are ridiculously huge.

the original xbox launch controllers were the most obscene things ever done to consoles. it is difficult enough for me to play console games, and they forever stopped me from using the left trigger. you needed shaq hands to get a nice grip on it. the revamped ones were okay, but i really like the 360 ones.

even if they did get rid of the racism buttons.

Controller S?

The revamped smaller one.

old - http://www.playphoria.com/features/indepth/controller-ergonomics/images/controllers-006.jpg
controller s - http://www.gamecritics.com/review/xboxcontrl_s_hw/screen01.jpg

they made it smaller and moved the start/select to the left and the racism button to the bottom.

Maybe you're talking about the 360, I haven't tried that yet, but Xbox controllers are ridiculously huge.

You do know that there's more than one size, right?

...

I guess all love for the PS system dies with PS2 and Katamari...

Wii FTW.

The revamped smaller one.

old - http://www.playphoria.com/features/indepth/controller-ergonomics/images/controllers-006.jpg
controller s - http://www.gamecritics.com/review/xboxcontrl_s_hw/screen01.jpg

they made it smaller and moved the start/select to the left and the racism button to the bottom.

Jesus, your post keeps changing.

Eh, at least they can change something that's messed up. In such regard, Sony = fail.

You mean Tv remotes, those things that people everywhere use?

For gaming?

.... which can be used as a sword..... Whats not to love?
The part were I have to dance like a faerie to use it [/Turkish]

The Xbox controller feels better to hold, you have to work your hands to get ahold of the PS crap, but the 'box just kinda fits.
No. It's easy to use the PS controller: ring fingers and pinkies hold it up, middles and indexes go on the triggers, and thumbs take care of the rest. Whereas the Xbox requires you to hold it with fingertips and reach inwards.

Xbox is the greatest console. Ever.
No. Xbox had the hardware of a very meh computer, and damn near every decent game that was on it was ported to computer.

I mean, it's flagship title was HALO. First of all, FPS's on console are not that good, and, secondly, HALO is probably the most overrated FPS I've ever seen.

And I've seen a lot of them.

I guess all love for the PS system dies with PS2 and Katamari...

Wii FTW.

Katamari was awesome...

Jesus, your post keeps changing.

Eh, at least they can change something that's messed up. In such regard, Sony = fail.

I was scrambling for the photos.

Where are all those Sony fanboys who will commit seppuku when they dont get their PS3 on launch day?

For gaming?

*shrug* I just don't understand how resembling a TV remote is even *snicker* remotely a bad thing.


The part were I have to dance like a faerie to use it

Considering that's not really necessary...:confused:

No. Xbox had the hardware of a very meh computer, and damn near every decent game that was on it was ported to computer.

Xbox was a computer.

What's most striking to me is that there was apparently little hysteria for PS3 in Japan. Sure, they all sold out... but eBay was reselling them at the normal price. If the Japanese fanbase is losing loyalty, Sony is dying.

Halo 3 better be good.

*shrug* I just don't understand how resembling a TV remote is even *snicker* remotely a bad thing.

...because it isn't a real controller? I like more than two buttons on my controller, unless I'm using my Master System or NES.

Xbox was a computer.

All consoles are computers. Your point?

The revamped smaller one.

old - http://www.playphoria.com/features/indepth/controller-ergonomics/images/controllers-006.jpg
controller s - http://www.gamecritics.com/review/xboxcontrl_s_hw/screen01.jpg

they made it smaller and moved the start/select to the left and the racism button to the bottom.

why do you call it the "racism buttons"?

why do you call it the "racism buttons"?

black and white. it forces you to make a decision.

It's gotta suck to be a sony fanboy right about now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI)

It's gotta suck to be a sony fanboy right about now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI)

Yep, being an asshole is hilarious.

Oh, wait. What's the complete opposite of hilarity?

*shrug* I just don't understand how resembling a TV remote is even *snicker* remotely a bad thing.

See: CD-i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-i)

It's gotta suck to be a sony fanboy right about now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI)
one of these jerks with too much money, like the folk who are buying PS3s on ebay for 15000$

The part were I have to dance like a faerie to use it [/Turkish]

You should appreciate the excercise you lazy so-and-so :p

But seriously, since when did swishing your hand through the air count as dancing like a faerie? You probably make far more vociferous and odd motions than that with your PS2 controller when you fuck up on [insert PS2 game here].

I mean, it's flagship title was HALO. First of all, FPS's on console are not that good, and, secondly, HALO is probably the most overrated FPS I've ever seen.

And I've seen a lot of them.

Well first of all FPS's on console rock. Hard. Don't get me wrong, I love a desktop FPS as much as the next man (probably slightly more actually, since the next man is my dad), but console FPS still rocks. In fact I've played the desktop version of Halo extensively, and it's nowhere near as good as on Xbox. And Halo is not at all overrated, it just genuinely kicks major arse.

black and white. it forces you to make a decision.

Teehee, I love M$ and their sly apartheid propaganda.

It's gotta suck to be a sony fanboy right about now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTy7Nx0oPI)

That was... that was just beautiful *sniff* In front of all those poor bastards in the queue too :D:D

Yep, being an asshole is hilarious.

Oh, wait. What's the complete opposite of hilarity?

That joke? Seemed fairly unfunny to me.

Come on just because they smashed up a decidedly average console that makes them bastards? It was amazing and you know it. Let go of your fanboyhood and appreciate the humour.

You should appreciate the excercise you lazy so-and-so :p
Please. I spend about as much time playing football/soccer (depending on your nationality) as I do playing consoles.

But seriously, since when did swishing your hand through the air count as dancing like a faerie? You probably make far more vociferous and odd motions than that with your PS2 controller when you fuck up on [insert PS2 game here].
Okay, I'm exaggerating. A little.
I still would like to take note of the verb "swishing". It's a very faerie-like verb.


Well first of all FPS's on console rock. Hard. Don't get me wrong, I love a desktop FPS as much as the next man (probably slightly more actually, since the next man is my dad), but console FPS still rocks. In fact I've played the desktop version of Halo extensively, and it's nowhere near as good as on Xbox. And Halo is not at all overrated, it just genuinely kicks major arse.
Don't get me wrong, Halo is fun. But people talk about it like its the best shooter ever. I've yet to see an FPS that matches either System Shock or its sequel.
And I do like FPSs on the console, but the mouse is a much more precise and powerful control than the analog stick.
Come on just because they smashed up a decidedly average console that makes them bastards? It was amazing and you know it. Let go of your fanboyhood and appreciate the humour.
I don't think they're bastards for smashing a PS3. I think they're bastards for smashing something that people really, really, really, want, for the sole purpose of schadenfreude.
I've never really been a fan of insult humor.

Bad launch, but I fail to see why this should deter me from buying a PS 3. I'll just be a little patient, and get one when things pick up. Whining about it now is rather silly.

Come on just because they smashed up a decidedly average console that makes them bastards? It was amazing and you know it. Let go of your fanboyhood and appreciate the humour.
They're idiots, whichever way you look at it. Spoilt fucking stupid idiots, on top of it. Brilliant waste of $$$.

Please. I spend about as much time playing football/soccer (depending on your nationality) as I do playing consoles.

Maybe Nintendo are just trying to help out the gamers out there who do no excercise? (Oh and it's football for me :D)

Okay, I'm exaggerating. A little.
I still would like to take note of the verb "swishing". It's a very faerie-like verb.

Oh come on now - you'd make far mroe of an arse of yourself on DDR than you would ever with any Wii game :D And don't be so pedantic :p "swishing' is as good a verb as any other and we both know it.

Don't get me wrong, Halo is fun. But people talk about it like its the best shooter ever. I've yet to see an FPS that matches either System Shock or its sequel.
And I do like FPSs on the console, but the mouse is a much more precise and powerful control than the analog stick.

Just so long as you aren't one of those "halo is teh suxxorz roflmfao" retards who haven't actually played the game. And be fair, at least as far as console FPS go, Halo (and Halo 2) are ahead of anything else in that field.

You're right about the mouse though - sniping on UT on the PS2 sucked big time compared to on the PC. *sigh* I love Facing Worlds...

I don't think they're bastards for smashing a PS3. I think they're bastards for smashing something that people really, really, really, want, for the sole purpose of schadenfreude.
I've never really been a fan of insult humor.

Maybe they're making a statement rather than trying to simply piss people off. Maybe they're trying to encourage people to chillax about a console and go and do something more worthwhile with their time. *shrug* who knows? I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're trying to say something significant with that gesture. As well as being hilarious :D:D

They're idiots, whichever way you look at it. Spoilt fucking stupid idiots, on top of it. Brilliant waste of $$$.

Almost as stupid as people who camp out for days in front of a store to get their hands on a console. Not a cure for cancer or anything, no, a console. Almost as stupid as people who will willing rob, stab, shoot other people for a console :confused: It boggles the mind.

Maybe they're making a statement rather than trying to simply piss people off. Maybe they're trying to encourage people to chillax about a console and go and do something more worthwhile with their time. *shrug* who knows? I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're trying to say something significant with that gesture. As well as being hilarious :D:D
In what world is smashing a $600 machine a "statement"? If it is one, it has to be the most ridiculous one I've seen in a while. Give away the console if you don't like it...

Almost as stupid as people who camp out for days in front of a store to get their hands on a console. Not a cure for cancer or anything, no, a console. Almost as stupid as people who will willing rob, stab, shoot other people for a console :confused: It boggles the mind.
Operative word being almost. Spending $600 on a console and smashing it (instead of selling it on ebay or giving it away) is, in my books, as dumb as it gets.

[QUOTE=Liberated New Ireland;11968790]Don't get me wrong, Halo is fun. But people talk about it like its the best shooter ever. I've yet to see an FPS that matches either System Shock or its sequel./QUOTE]
It's all about the music. The music makes or breaks the games for me. The best games, like the Halos and Baldur's Gate II had awesome music. And the Final Fantasies.

black and white. it forces you to make a decision.
black and white are freaking colours. nothing else.

What's most striking to me is that there was apparently little hysteria for PS3 in Japan. Sure, they all sold out... but eBay was reselling them at the normal price. If the Japanese fanbase is losing loyalty, Sony is dying.

Halo 3 better be good.
no, it won't be. a second video game crash is coming.

Don't get me wrong, Halo is fun. But people talk about it like its the best shooter ever. I've yet to see an FPS that matches either System Shock or its sequel.
It's all about the music. The music makes or breaks the games for me. The best games, like the Halos and Baldur's Gate II had awesome music. And the Final Fantasies.

...well, System Shock did have good music for its time. Keep in mind that it was released the same year as DOOM. ;)

The Final Fantasies have had some very good music. The Final Fantasy VII version of The Prelude is my personal favorite.

Technology apathy: putting a blind fate/acceptance into new technology regardless of the consequences.

Yeah, I think that pretty much just sums it up. :p

...because it isn't a real controller? I like more than two buttons on my controller, unless I'm using my Master System or NES.

Funny you say that, then mention NES. Eh.

See: CD-i

See:
in 1991 and initially priced around USD $700
Early software releases in the CD-i format focused heavily on educational, music, and self-improvement titles, with only a handful of video games, many of them adaptations of board games like "Connect Four".

Somehow, I don't think the controller was a problem.

There is a reason PS3 controllers are like that. Sony developed the perfect controller. It's no accident that if you buy a USB controller for you PC, it will be a duplicate ofa PS3 controller.

If by 'perfect' you mean 'most generic', then yes, Sony developed the perfect controller.

sorry, but the gamecube controller owns all. it fits perfectly in my hands, and the buttons, though odd looking, are in just the right places for my thumb to roll around and hit them all easily.

ever play XG:III? it will give you the greatest demonstration of how perfect that controller is.

the only flaw is the Z button.



The PS controller(s) don't fit exactly right, the bottons are arranged, though visually appealing, very oddly for my thumb, and the lest analog stick is too low to be comfortable.

I got used to it after 60 hours of Okami, but it's still not the greatest design

If by 'perfect' you mean 'most generic', then yes, Sony developed the perfect controller.

sorry, but the gamecube controller owns all. it fits perfectly in my hands, and the buttons, though odd looking, are in just the right places for my thumb to roll around and hit them all easily.

ever play XG:III? it will give you the greatest demonstration of how perfect that controller is.

the only flaw is the Z button.

XG:III was awesome, and yes, the Z could have been better.

The PS controller(s) don't fit exactly right, the bottons are arranged, though visually appealing, very oddly for my thumb, and the lest analog stick is too low to be comfortable.

I got used to it after 60 hours of Okami, but it's still not the greatest design

I'm into the PS3. Call me crazy. It's ok.

Call me crazy.

ok, crazy.

I'm fairly certain there was a smashmyxbox360.com when it launched as well so I'm thinking they're just idiots who like to annoy people.

I'm fairly certain there was a smashmyxbox360.com when it launched as well so I'm thinking they're just idiots who like to annoy people.

*shrug* Fair enough, it was awesome.

As would smash my wii be as well if they could.
No bias in this particular area.

*shrug* Fair enough, it was awesome.

As would smash my wii be as well if they could.
No bias in this particular area.

Haha I'm sure they would manage. I was quite impressed with how many blows it took. I'm sure it wouldnt have worked but the case seemed to hold up pretty well the first few blows.

Haha I'm sure they would manage. I was quite impressed with how many blows it took. I'm sure it wouldnt have worked but the case seemed to hold up pretty well the first few blows.

Perhaps...Maybe they just suck at sledgehammering. Somewhat familiar to the X-Play bit, my Gamecube actually did fall a story and continue to function.

Perhaps...Maybe they just suck at sledgehammering. Somewhat familiar to the X-Play bit, my Gamecube actually did fall a story and continue to function.

I must ask how. And why.

I agree. I'm either going to get nintendo Wii or wait until Xbox 360 goes down.

Good lad!

Nintendo has always been the best. They're smart enough to make more than 2 consoles per store. :)

It's official: Wii is the greatest thing ever.

My roommate came in today with a Wii, and we have been playing wii sports.

I'm not a big fan of sports in general, but the control system is the greatest thing ever.

He is deliberately keeping Twilight Princess away from us during the next week or so (leading up to finals), but dear lord, is it gonna be fun.

Sony did what any other company would do, they had a lack of systems but they launched anyway to start making money earlier. Also it seems to have generated a lot of hype. But looking at their whole launch, and hearing stories about how Sony have become for lack of a better phrase arrogant bastards, they don't deserve the attention and brand recognition they have anymore.

There is a reason PS3 controllers are like that. Sony developed the perfect controller. It's no accident that if you buy a USB controller for you PC, it will be a duplicate ofa PS3 controller.

I hate the stick placement on those things! Honestly putting giving the D-Pad prime position is an outdated practise.

If by 'perfect' you mean 'most generic', then yes, Sony developed the perfect controller.

sorry, but the gamecube controller owns all. it fits perfectly in my hands, and the buttons, though odd looking, are in just the right places for my thumb to roll around and hit them all easily.

ever play XG:III? it will give you the greatest demonstration of how perfect that controller is.

the only flaw is the Z button.

Wwould you rather it be put? The Z button is put where it is because the intention is that you press it once every so often to access a map or something else that only requires one push of a small button every now and again. But I think I am the only person in the world that actually likes that button.

Would you rather it be put? The Z button is put where it is because the intention is that you press it once every so often to access a map or something else that only requires one push of a small button every now and again. But I think I am the only person in the world that actually likes that button.

I think they should have put it in between the (b) button and the (x) button.

Wow, the Wii has already sold over 650,000 units. The PS3 is still around 250,000.

Go Wii!

Bad launch, but I fail to see why this should deter me from buying a PS 3. I'll just be a little patient, and get one when things pick up. Whining about it now is rather silly.

Pretty much. I gotta say, for all the concern over the assumed reaction of 'fanboys' in this thread, the people who sound the most like fanboys are the rather ridiculous haters.

Get a fucking grip, dudes.

And worst launch in history? Perhaps you don't remember a few gems like Jaguar or 3DO.

Seriously, coming all over yourselves for a chance to dance about, "The King is dead!" is unbecoming. I'll buy or not buy a PS3 based on what I can play on it like any other system purchase-but I'm not going to strain to pat myself on the back for whatever decision that is. That's sad fanboy land. Population, you guys.

Wow, the Wii has already sold over 650,000 units. The PS3 is still around 250,000.

Go Wii!

Given that more Wiis physically exist right now, that's not terribly suggestive.

Given that more Wiis physically exist right now, that's not terribly suggestive.

True, but the 250K PS3 units is even well below the 400K they promised for the launch. Shipping problems or some such I think. Nothing seems to be going Sony's way this time around.

And that they have so few units to begin with is their own fault, anyway, since they just had to cram their new BluRay hardware into the machine.

There is a reason PS3 controllers are like that. Sony developed the perfect controller. It's no accident that if you buy a USB controller for you PC, it will be a duplicate ofa PS3 controller.

I only play PC games, I use an XBox 360 controller and haven't looked back since it replaced my PS2-knockoff control.

360>PSX :D

True, but the 250K PS3 units is even well below the 400K they promised for the launch. Shipping problems or some such I think. Nothing seems to be going Sony's way this time around.

And that they have so few units to begin with is their own fault, anyway, since they just had to cram their new BluRay hardware into the machine.

True, and certainly harmful to them. I wonder just how much more Sony can screw up this iteration of their console.

It'd be a shame to see Sony pull a Sega. This PS3 launch is reminds me a little of when the Sega Dreamcast came out.

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I'll be sticking with PC either way. I gave up on consoles when the then ridiculously priced PS2 came out, with CD errors galore. Atleast with a computer I can upgrade and do things other than play games. ;)

It'd be a shame to see Sony pull a Sega. This PS3 launch is reminds me a little of when the Sega Dreamcast came out.

*edit

I'll be sticking with PC either way. I gave up on consoles when the then ridiculously priced PS2 came out, with CD errors galore. Atleast with a computer I can upgrade and do things other than play games. ;)

This is something I'd actually like to have seen. What the most rational and non-fanboyish criticism I've heard is, "Yeah, it's better, but it's not really 'whole new system better.'" Which, if they had a component console that could replace just components of the system as needed instead of facilitating a whole new box after the old one becomes too dated...

I don't know. I guess it then has the problem that keeps me away from PC games, reading fine print and trying to figure out if this game in my hand will work on my system at home-much easier to look at the top of the box-"Playstation 2, good to go."

It'd be a shame to see Sony pull a Sega. This PS3 launch is reminds me a little of when the Sega Dreamcast came out.


I don't think it will go that far, at least not yet. Sega was pretty much on its last legs after the flops of the Sega CD, 32x, and Sega Saturn. The Dreamcast probably could've saved them, if Sony hadn't released the PS2.

I'm fairly certain Sony will decline a bit this generation, but the stronghold they got on the market from the PS2 isn't that easily broken.

True, and certainly harmful to them. I wonder just how much more Sony can screw up this iteration of their console.

Nintendo was on top for two generations...then they got cocky, will Sony follow suit?

Im sticking with the 360. Anyone here try Gears of War? IMO it suprasses Halo and ive never said that about any other game.

Im sticking with the 360. Anyone here try Gears of War? IMO it suprasses Halo and ive never said that about any other game.

I always thought Halo was ridiculously over-rated.

www.nexgenwars.com

Nintendo fans, commence congratulatory masturbation now.

Gotta say the PS3 has been a catalogue of disasters one way or another in their run-up to launch. Time will tell if they really have screwed the pooch but it's not looking great thus far.

The PS3 was rushed to the finish line to beat Nintendo's launch, and it shows. It wouldn't surprise me if some boards had bridges soldered into them at this stage.

On paper the PS3 looks like it will make a nifty entertainment machine... in about six months when they have hopefully ironed out all the glitches.

I must ask how. And why.

My little sister threw it down. And because she was evil.

I always thought Halo was ridiculously over-rated.

Well, duh. It would be physically impossible for a game not to be over-rated with the hype Halo has.

I only play PC games, I use an XBox 360 controller and haven't looked back since it replaced my PS2-knockoff control.

360>PSX :D

WHOA! Thankyou, I didn't even think about plugging my 360 controller into teh PC. And to think I nearly wasted money on a lame PSX style controller when I had greatness already!:cool: :D

WHOA! Thankyou, I didn't even think about plugging my 360 controller into teh PC. And to think I nearly wasted money on a lame PSX style controller when I had greatness already!:cool: :D

Apparently all you need is a driver available from Microsoft's website to get it going.

Ok. We've had the usual crap about stampedes and gang warfare over consoles. Now we've got a critical lack of hardware (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/rumor-no-20-gb-ps3s-coming-215234.php), poor HDMI support (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gizmodo/one-mans-ps3-hdmi-issues-215190.php), AND poor HD support (http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html). Combine that overwhelmingly poor launch titles (here (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929232.asp), here (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932329.asp), here (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155336)), and it's flagship title, Resistance: Fall of Man, receive reviews of "great, but nothing to write home about." Not to mention that outrageous price they expect you to pay for all that.

So, is the PS3 the worst major console launch in history?
nope, the worst so far in My opinion is Sega's saturn and Dreamcast launch.

nope, the worst so far in My opinion is Sega's saturn and Dreamcast launch.

ha those two did bad here along with Nintendo cube

ha those two did bad here along with Nintendo cube

worse actually... I know people who ask me the same question...

"Sega Saturn? when did that come out?"

worse actually... I know people who ask me the same question...

"Sega Saturn? when did that come out?"

that is bad
well i was talking to the owner of the video store near me he said he lost money buying the games and consoles to rent out as there like a hand full of people who rent the games and consoles

When compared to the Wii, launched at roughly the same time, PS3 is indeed in trouble.

worse actually... I know people who ask me the same question...

"Sega Saturn? when did that come out?"

Tell them "around the same time as the Commodore CD32".

Tell them "around the same time as the Commodore CD32".

Lol... I forgot about the CD32... that was about the same time Sega CD came out... early 1990's, right?

Tell them "around the same time as the Commodore CD32".

the what

amen brother, i will either get a 360 or upgrade my PC mad like, prob the latter though the video card i want costs 250 dollars which is pretty good since i dont need much to get it to the level i want.

Lol... I forgot about the CD32... that was about the same time Sega CD came out... early 1990's, right?

Yeah, 1992 or 93, I think.


the what


Exactly.

When compared to the Wii, launched at roughly the same time, PS3 is indeed in trouble.

the Wii got one werid controller

The PS3 was rushed to the finish line to beat Nintendo's launch, and it shows. It wouldn't surprise me if some boards had bridges soldered into them at this stage..

Just like the 360?

On paper the PS3 looks like it will make a nifty entertainment machine... in about six months when they have hopefully ironed out all the glitches.

If the 360 is anything to go buy, it will take longer than that.

Sega was pretty much on its last legs after the flops of the Sega CD, 32x, and Sega Saturn.

I had forgetten about the Saturn. In retrospect, that was the system that they really killed themselves with. Dreamcast was a big improvement, but they didn't give it the software support it needed.

32X and Sega CD were kind of fun, but once again no support. There were only a few good games for each, and 32X was really not much of an improvement over the 16-bit base.

This is something I'd actually like to have seen. What the most rational and non-fanboyish criticism I've heard is, "Yeah, it's better, but it's not really 'whole new system better.'" Which, if they had a component console that could replace just components of the system as needed instead of facilitating a whole new box after the old one becomes too dated...

I don't know. I guess it then has the problem that keeps me away from PC games, reading fine print and trying to figure out if this game in my hand will work on my system at home-much easier to look at the top of the box-"Playstation 2, good to go."

That's a good point. It takes a certain amount of tech savvy to do it economically. If you get a top notch CPU 6 months ago, every 1.5-2 years, and maybe a top notch video card a year ago every year, that's a general rule of thumb for running most current games. Then you can sell the used components and get maybe 20-35% back, sometimes more or less. But on top of buying the components, if you're paying a shop $50-100 and hour to do it, the bill goes way up. Still though, for 600 dollars, you can build a pretty good PC box. Assuming you already have all the periperals, the cost is only for the box.

It's certainly quite the debacle, but worst console launch ever? Are we forgetting the Sega Saturn? Because, you know, that wouldn't be all that uncommon to forget the Saturn. That was kind of their problem.

Anybody who was around here about a year ago will remember that I was completely and totally stoked for the PS3. I was convinced it would rock my world. I was going to be first in line to buy one when The Great Release Date finally rolled around.

Now, I'm not planning to buy one. I got a Wii instead.

Why, you ask?

Gosh, where to begin?

The price, for starters. I can get a new computer for less, and the computer won't have random crap like a Blu-ray player I don't want.

The titles, for another thing. I cannot think of a single release title on the PS3 that I am remotely interested in playing. Meanwhile, the cheap-o Wii Sports game that comes with the freaking system is already offering me a great deal of entertainment (my living room has been converted into a virtual batting cage so I can hit homers right before dinner).

The lack of novelty is another problem for me. The Wii controller is something new, and something that's been pretty fun so far (though I'm not positive I'll like using it for all games). Since I can always hook in a standard controller for some more classic action, it's really cool to have the new interaction system to play with. I do think the Playstation controller is the best one there is, but it's the same controller that's been around for the last two systems. I was hoping for a little more creativity out of the Sony people, particularly considering their asking price.

Maybe when PS3s are down to $200 a pop I will consider possibly borrowing one from a friend for the weekend, but until then I'll be more than happy to stick with my Wii, my faithful old PS2, and my PC.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I guess I forgot to mention the 360 as an option. That's because it's not an option, as far as I'm concerned. Lousy controller, no interesting games, and it's sold by Satan's Legions. Also, Xbox 360s kick puppies whenever you aren't looking.

Pfhhh. The XBox controller is far better than the PS controller. The PS controller is so rigid and stiff.

and the PS controller hurts my thumbs... or, in fact, my whole hand.
the xbox or the 360 controllers are perfect imo, largely because they're pretty much copies of the Dreamcast controllers, which were perfect :cool:

Ok. We've had the usual crap about stampedes and gang warfare over consoles. Now we've got a critical lack of hardware (http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/rumor-no-20-gb-ps3s-coming-215234.php), poor HDMI support (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/gizmodo/one-mans-ps3-hdmi-issues-215190.php), AND poor HD support (http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html). Combine that overwhelmingly poor launch titles (here (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929232.asp), here (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932329.asp), here (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3155336)), and it's flagship title, Resistance: Fall of Man, receive reviews of "great, but nothing to write home about." Not to mention that outrageous price they expect you to pay for all that.

So, is the PS3 the worst major console launch in history?

Agreed ... Combine that with them being a year behind the 360 and far less numbers then the much cheaper more stable wii