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Among my peers (~20 y.o. Irish people), most of the females have (mostly slightly older) boyfriends, while my male peers, are, by a large majority single. What do the "sociologists" of NS have to say on the matter?

It's not an absolute truth, but it's a noticeable trend.

Don't tell me about maturity differences. Past 18 y.o. that's not really true,

Don't tell me about maturity differences. Past 18 y.o. that's not really true,

Actually, it is.

Not to mention that older guys are hotter and better lovers, and usually are better off.

I'm not a woman myself. However, I think it is due to the fact that older guys are more appealing because they've lived that much more longer than the female and I guess females like that extra yearage in between them.

Older I guess all has to do with a trait of dominance... older person taking care of the younger. Something like that.

Who are you to question why these hot young women want older men?
This type of behavior should be encouraged!
Of course I am a single guy who is pushing 40 so I may have a slightly biased opinion ;)

Young women don't require partners of any age.

It's because we guys take a little longer to grow up.

Among my peers (~20 y.o. Irish people), most of the females have (mostly slightly older) boyfriends, while my male peers, are, by a large majority single. What do the "sociologists" of NS have to say on the matter?

It's not an absolute truth, but it's a noticeable trend.

Don't tell me about maturity differences. Past 18 y.o. that's not really true,

It is because men are like good wine. We get better with age. :D

It is because men are like good wine. We get better with age. :D

And there are people who collect us and lock us in cellars for decades?

personally myself, i have always prefered older women cause i think women my age are too immature.

It is because men are like good wine. We get better with age. :D

Up yours, man. :upyours: This 18 year old single male begs to differ!

It's because we guys take a little longer to grow up.
Young women prefer old men (not much older) because guys their ages are moronic twats.

Up yours, man. :upyours: This 18 year old single male begs to differ!

Clearly you're not old enough.
*is also 18*:(

Young women prefer old men (not much older) because guys their ages are moronic twats.

i would say the opposite.

Up yours, man. :upyours: This 18 year old single male begs to differ!

Ever wonder why you're single?

Ever wonder why you're single?

You mean to tell us self-professed Nazis with attitude issues have trouble hooking up? Get out!

can't be a trend... I haven't hooked up with anyone. :(

Up yours, man. :upyours: This 18 year old single male begs to differ!

Well, that's certainly asserted your maturity and given us an indicator of your clearly supreme intelligence.

Many fathers are absent or absolute jerks so getting an older boyfriend makes up for that. Also have lived longer so they can have more money and are higher on the status ladder then us young folk.

It's not an absolute truth, but it's a noticeable trend.Heh, close to being a an absolute truth.Don't tell me about maturity differences. Past 18 y.o. that's not really true,Rubbish. Have you ever met any men in their twenties?

We're far more charming than you.
We're far more responsible than you.
We don't live in shitholes.
We know sex isn't something you have for 5 mins in your mum's dirty laundry.
Our cars actually run.
We don't call our girlfriends from the other end of the country Saturday morning, after having gone for cigs Friday evening, to cancel the dinner with her parents & ask money for a train ticket home... Or at least we don't do it nearly as often.
We usually don't black out & cheat on our lover.
We've been single long enough not to expect her to do our laundry & cook our dinner. And we can cook something other than instant noodles.
We're as fit as you, and we don't have time to develop a charming little beergut.
We actually read the paper & can carry a conversation about something besides school & transformers.
We're not so caught up in ourselves that we never do random nice things for our lovers.

And we don't make her sleep on the wet spot ;)

Among my peers (~20 y.o. Irish people), most of the females have (mostly slightly older) boyfriends, while my male peers, are, by a large majority single. What do the "sociologists" of NS have to say on the matter?

It's not an absolute truth, but it's a noticeable trend.

Don't tell me about maturity differences. Past 18 y.o. that's not really true,

There's a hell of a lot more to maturity than reproductive ability or legal status. Let's take my case, because I know more about it. Sometimes, the freshman girls have a crush on me. Part of it, I'm sure, is that I have some degree of physical attractiveness. But I think more of it has to do with the facts that:

a) Through having many female friends over the years, asking them questions and studying their behavior, I've developed a pretty good way of relating to women. Not perfect, but pretty good.

b) I don't act like a 12-year old boy, which is what a lot of guys in my age range (18-22) do surprisingly frequently. In fact, I act, dress, and look like a fun 30-year old most of the time IRL. The women who aren't overly superficial tend to like that in contrast to the immaturity they see from most men in their age bracket.

c) I have greater poise and confidence than most men my age. You'd be surprised how much that can impress a woman.

Generally, it's the guys who are a little older that have learned how to relate to women better and don't act like 12-year olds. Go figure. Maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule. I dunno.

Side Note: It's interesting how often I get mistaken for a 30-40 year old IRL.

My mom and I went out for dinner because neither of us felt like cooking, and my stepdad and siblings were vacationing in Colorado, so they obviously weren't going to cook dinner for us. The waiter thought we were on a date. There's a twenty-year age difference between my mom and I, and she only looks ten years younger than she is.

When I was with my brother and sister at a movie theatre, the person doing admissions thought I was their father. The paramedics that came to my house thought my sister was my daughter.

It's kinda ridiculous.

Many fathers are absent or absolute jerks so getting an older boyfriend makes up for that. Also have lived longer so they can have more money and are higher on the status ladder then us young folk.

It's kinda ridiculous.

Somewhat sad, too.

/I kid. Partially.

There was a study once (though Google is proving unhelpful in my efforts to find it), that said that women place more importance in the social status of a potential mate, and that men place more importance on appearances.
So, there you go, Science has already wasted more time than you on this issue.

Well, that's certainly asserted your maturity and given us an indicator of your clearly supreme intelligence.

Look, Ass master, why don't you play a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself...and then have a nice tall glass of shut-the-fuck-up?

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

Look, Ass master, why don't you play a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself...and then have a nice tall glass of shut-the-fuck-up?

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

lmao. You forgot the gun smilie.

There was a study once (though Google is proving unhelpful in my efforts to find it), that said that women place more importance in the social status of a potential mate, and that men place more importance on appearances.
So, there you go, Science has already wasted more time than you on this issue.

This is true of many many issues. Good old science.

Somewhat sad, too.

/I kid. Partially.

Yes, it is somewhat sad. I believe you've mentioned in other threads that you didn't have the luxury of a childhood. I did. It was just very, very short. Life circumstances required me to mature rapidly.

Look, Ass master, why don't you play a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself...and then have a nice tall glass of shut-the-fuck-up?

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

Why am I not surprised that you're single?

Look, Ass master, why don't you play a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself...and then have a nice tall glass of shut-the-fuck-up?

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:


You're 18, you act like that, and you claim that younger men are just as mature as older men?

Yes, it is somewhat sad. I believe you've mentioned in other threads that you didn't have the luxury of a childhood. I did. It was just very, very short. Life circumstances required me to mature rapidly.

I was making a poor joke to some sort of paranoia of physical ageing, but you do touch on a valid point, and that would be the overrated status of childhood. It probably sucked like the 60s, but not much unlike them people probably just repressed that and repeated the "goodness" meme.

older guys generally have better jobs
better jobs generally = more money
money attracts the X Chromosomes

Look, Ass master, why don't you play a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself...and then have a nice tall glass of shut-the-fuck-up?

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

You seem a bit stressed out. Maybe all that trolling, flaming and baiting is too hard of a job. I've just given you a free 5-day vacation from the NS forums.

Please extend your vacation permanently if you do not plan to improve your behavior and follow the rules so conveniently posted in the Moderation forum.

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HotRodia

Look, Ass master, why don't you play a game of hide-and-go-fuck-yourself...and then have a nice tall glass of shut-the-fuck-up?

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

Somehow I think you won't be around here much longer. Not much of a loss to NS I think.





Wow, seems my prediction was correct given the above post. Perhaps I am psychic? :eek: :p

Contact information for these young women, please? ;)

a) Through having many female friends over the years, asking them questions and studying their behavior, I've developed a pretty good way of relating to women. Not perfect, but pretty good.

b) I don't act like a 12-year old boy, which is what a lot of guys in my age range (18-22) do surprisingly frequently. In fact, I act, dress, and look like a fun 30-year old most of the time IRL. The women who aren't overly superficial tend to like that in contrast to the immaturity they see from most men in their age bracket.

c) I have greater poise and confidence than most men my age. You'd be surprised how much that can impress a woman.

Generally, it's the guys who are a little older that have learned how to relate to women better and don't act like 12-year olds. Go figure. Maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule. I dunno.

Side Note: It's interesting how often I get mistaken for a 30-40 year old IRL.

My mom and I went out for dinner because neither of us felt like cooking, and my stepdad and siblings were vacationing in Colorado, so they obviously weren't going to cook dinner for us. The waiter thought we were on a date. There's a twenty-year age difference between my mom and I, and she only looks ten years younger than she is.

When I was with my brother and sister at a movie theatre, the person doing admissions thought I was their father. The paramedics that came to my house thought my sister was my daughter.

It's kinda ridiculous.


1: I'm very much the same in this respect. Believe it or not, most of my friends when I went to public school were female, as I seemed to get along better with most of them. The other boys my age were usually pretty typical... You know, running around aimlessly, screaming and shouting, having tantrums when they didn't get what they wanted... That said, even at my current age (18), I've noticed that a lot of guys my age act like idiots.

2: Same here. I don't know many other guys (outside of online forums, naturally) my age who can actually have a long conversation with people (not just women) who are over the age of thirty. It's always been a natural thing for me, though. Even when I was five, I had conversations with my sister's friends (age 17 - 20)... Needless to say, I impressed, though I never felt that I was going out of my way to do so.

3: Exception? Nah, there are plenty of guys like us. We're just scattered all over the globe, never being in one specific area in significant numbers. :p

4: Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. I run into similar issues, mostly over the phone. People think I'm about 35, thanks to my voice, and my eloquent way of speaking (a friend of mine actually thought that I was Canadian when we first met). Even so, I really don't have the age confusion problem in person. Instead, I get confused for being a girl... Until I start talking, which in turn freaks people out. :D


With all of this said, I still don't get out enough to really "try myself out", so to speak. However, through much observation of other guys my age, I can safely say that the majority of them act like 11-year-olds, and I don't much care for that, whether it be hormonal or simply by choice.

It's part of a vast conspiracy to screw over any 25-30 y/o women who haven't settled down. Didn't you know that?

It's part of a vast conspiracy to screw over any 25-30 y/o women who haven't settled down. Didn't you know that?

There is no conspiracy.
>.>
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*whispers into lapel mike*
We've got a code burlap, the flap has burned the rooster

I was making a poor joke to some sort of paranoia of physical ageing, but you do touch on a valid point, and that would be the overrated status of childhood. It probably sucked like the 60s, but not much unlike them people probably just repressed that and repeated the "goodness" meme.

Aye. Now that I think of it, folks being nostalgic for childhood may be what's keeping them from maturing.

The largest age gap I've had in a relationship was a year and a half. I didn't date the guy becuase he was older than me. I dated him because we met and got along really well and liked each other, plus he was confident enough to ask me out. (Although I had developed a liking for him and was going to ask him out, he just beat me to the punch...)

Aye. Now that I think of it, folks being nostalgic for childhood may be what's keeping them from maturing.

Overall, my childhood gets a resounding "meh". There were some really great parts to it, but there's really not that much to remember from 1990 - 1991, and I only lived in Port Aransas for three years... Which is why I say that I grew up there, because mentally, I did.

I was pretty old by the time I was six. My dad even remarks about how I was when I was a kid, and the fact that I never once said "daddy". Earlier this year, my sister called me an "old man", and she's 31. :p

There's a hell of a lot more to maturity than reproductive ability or legal status. Let's take my case, because I know more about it. Sometimes, the freshman girls have a crush on me. Part of it, I'm sure, is that I have some degree of physical attractiveness. But I think more of it has to do with the facts that:

a) Through having many female friends over the years, asking them questions and studying their behavior, I've developed a pretty good way of relating to women. Not perfect, but pretty good.

b) I don't act like a 12-year old boy, which is what a lot of guys in my age range (18-22) do surprisingly frequently. In fact, I act, dress, and look like a fun 30-year old most of the time IRL. The women who aren't overly superficial tend to like that in contrast to the immaturity they see from most men in their age bracket.

c) I have greater poise and confidence than most men my age. You'd be surprised how much that can impress a woman.

Generally, it's the guys who are a little older that have learned how to relate to women better and don't act like 12-year olds. Go figure. Maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule. I dunno.

Side Note: It's interesting how often I get mistaken for a 30-40 year old IRL.

My mom and I went out for dinner because neither of us felt like cooking, and my stepdad and siblings were vacationing in Colorado, so they obviously weren't going to cook dinner for us. The waiter thought we were on a date. There's a twenty-year age difference between my mom and I, and she only looks ten years younger than she is.

When I was with my brother and sister at a movie theatre, the person doing admissions thought I was their father. The paramedics that came to my house thought my sister was my daughter.

It's kinda ridiculous.
Once I was going to see my grandparents who live in the states and we were crossing the border and my younger sister was in the front seat (my mom had left earlier in the week) and the border guard thought that she was my dad's wife. It's kinda weird, 'cause she was 17 at the time and my dad was 50.

Once I was going to see my grandparents who live in the states and we were crossing the border and my younger sister was in the front seat (my mom had left earlier in the week) and the border guard thought that she was my dad's wife. It's kinda weird, 'cause she was 17 at the time and my dad was 50.

Gross?

Gross?
Well, I dunno, my sister regularly passes off as mid-20s. She gets ID'd less frequently than I do and my dad could probably pass for being in his 40s...

So I guess yeah, a little gross.

Overall, my childhood gets a resounding "meh". There were some really great parts to it, but there's really not that much to remember from 1990 - 1991, and I only lived in Port Aransas for three years... Which is why I say that I grew up there, because mentally, I did.

I was pretty old by the time I was six. My dad even remarks about how I was when I was a kid, and the fact that I never once said "daddy". Earlier this year, my sister called me an "old man", and she's 31. :p

Kinda ridiculous. :)

The middle-aged folks I know tend to treat me like I'm one of them. Which in a way is flattering and in a way is creepy.

Of course I am a single guy who is pushing 40 so I may have a slightly biased opinion ;)
Well I am a single guy who is just past 20, who doesn't want to go out with teenage girls, so my opinion on this matter is absolutely objective. :p

Why would you not prefer a woman of your own age?

It is because men are like good wine. We get better with age. :D
Why is it that the first dozen replies are all made by old men or homosexuals? *sigh*

Up yours, man. :upyours: This 18 year old single male begs to differ!
Your use of that smiley surely negates whatever "maturity" you claim.

Young women prefer old men (not much older) because guys their ages are moronic twats.
That generalisation is rubbish. Lots of my female peers are quite immature, so are lots of male ones, but there are also those of both sexes who are mature, so the generalisation isn't true.

Heh, close to being a an absolute truth.Rubbish. Have you ever met any men in their twenties?

*snip*
Your list could quite easily apply to many females in their early 20s.

Kinda ridiculous. :)

The middle-aged folks I know tend to treat me like I'm one of them. Which in a way is flattering and in a way is creepy.

Same here. I mean, it's all well and good that people I know treat me as if I'm in my thirties, but even people I've never met before do just the same.

Maybe we have some kind of body language that we don't pay attention to that gives them the signal.

the south park episode where Kenny does home economics gives the perfect answer to this quandry

Up yours, man. :upyours: This 18 year old single male begs to differ!

Flame a lot?

From what I understand, women tend toward older males because the assumptions are:

1) Older men are more mature. (Physically this is a no-brainer, but emotionally-mentally it's a flip of the coin.)

2) Older men make more money. (True.)

3) Older men have more sexperience and are better in the sack. (Not necessarily true.)

4) Older men remind them more of their father and a Freudian Elektra complex is at play for most women. (100% unvarnished truth.)

5) Older men can be better protectors, and women are damsels who need protectors.

All in all, I can't think of a really good reason for age-based discrimination, but since when was reason a major factor in attraction anyway?

I like younger chicks cuz they're easier.

Yep, many women prefer older guys because they've got more maturity, more material, and simply... more.

I have an IRL repuation of being smart and have never been asked out by a girl...

As smart as you may be, you need to make the first move, Hayteria.

We're far more charming than you.
Maybe. I've met plenty 20-something scumbags.


We're far more responsible than you.
Probably.

We don't live in shitholes.
On the contrary, 20-somethings live in places just as shitty, if not moreso than 19 year olds. (My dorm is a lot nicer than many of the shitty apartments 24 year olds live in, as is my friends' University apartment).

We know sex isn't something you have for 5 mins in your mum's dirty laundry.
Most people out of high school know that. That's hardly something to have pride in. It's like saying, "wow, I know that 2+2=4!"

Our cars actually run.
Not always. The car I drive runs fine. Like the other statements, there does not appear to be a significant difference. Some people have shitty cars, some have good ones.

We don't call our girlfriends from the other end of the country Saturday morning, after having gone for cigs Friday evening, to cancel the dinner with her parents & ask money for a train ticket home... Or at least we don't do it nearly as often.
I've never done that, so if you have, then you've done it more often than I have.

We usually don't black out & cheat on our lover.
See the above statement.

We've been single long enough not to expect her to do our laundry & cook our dinner. And we can cook something other than instant noodles.
I do my own laundery. I'm in college. Sometimes I help her with hers.

We're as fit as you, and we don't have time to develop a charming little beergut.
I bet you're more fit than me, actually. Or at least more healthy. I average about 5 hours of sleep a night, which can't be good.

We actually read the paper & can carry a conversation about something besides school & transformers.
I read the paper almost every day. My lady and I usually talk about politics and books we've read. We do talk about school though, yes.

We're not so caught up in ourselves that we never do random nice things for our lovers.
One is supposed to do random nice things for her. It's just kinda, one of the requirements for being a good boyfriend.

And we don't make her sleep on the wet spot ;)
Now that's just a mean thing to do.


For the record, I'm 19 and my girlfriend is 18, but we think of ourselves more as peers, since we met back in high school in a class we were both taking.

4) Older men remind them more of their father and a Freudian Elektra complex is at play for most women. (100% unvarnished truth.)


By definition, an Elektra complex has run its course by the time a girl hits puberty. Those gender frustrations are re-directed towards non-father figure males.

And let's not forget one other item:

As with all things in life, you get better with practice. And, I'm not neccessarily talking sex, older guys just have a bit more experience chatting up girls to get that first date. They have more experience on that first date to get the second. etc. etc.

In other words, they have the advantage of experience in dating that most young men don't have. And, as with most things in life, experience gives advantages.

And let's not forget one other item:

As with all things in life, you get better with practice. And, I'm not neccessarily talking sex, older guys just have a bit more experience

The old age=experience myth.

It's a myth since it's a generalization, and if you operate that it is always true (as people tend to) then you miss out on some reality while pursuing men who are mythically supposed to have had more experiences.

But, assuming something is true of someone is always easier than actually getting to know them. :)

chatting up girls to get that first date. They have more experience on that first date to get the second. etc. etc.

In other words, they have the advantage of experience in dating that most young men don't have. And, as with most things in life, experience gives advantages.

That's true, more experience in Dating gives the advantage of better being able to emotionally manipulate women into sleeping with him. An obvious plus for any single woman!

And let's not forget one other item:

As with all things in life, you get better with practice. And, I'm not neccessarily talking sex, older guys just have a bit more experience chatting up girls to get that first date. They have more experience on that first date to get the second. etc. etc.

In other words, they have the advantage of experience in dating that most young men don't have. And, as with most things in life, experience gives advantages.

I must say, that is quite true.

You seem a bit stressed out. Maybe all that trolling, flaming and baiting is too hard of a job. I've just given you a free 5-day vacation from the NS forums.

Please extend your vacation permanently if you do not plan to improve your behavior and follow the rules so conveniently posted in the Moderation forum.

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I've seen 11 year olds act more mature than him. *nodnod*

By definition, an Elektra complex has run its course by the time a girl hits puberty. Those gender frustrations are re-directed towards non-father figure males.

Elektra complex? :confused:

Elektra complex? :confused:

Psychology stuff involving dead Greek people. Don't sweat it too much.

"past 18 it's not an issue?" What happens, you graduate from high school and get some kind of "Mature male" medal to pin on your chest? There are plenty of men in their 20s and even 30s with little to no maturity.

Plus, while men (biologically) attempt to find the most attractive mate, women are attracted to a mate that can best provide for their offspring, thus money/income/resources are an issue. Older men have more.

So why do you older guys go for younger girls? Appearance alone? How mature is that.:headbang:

Besides, guys are always immature. No matter what the age.;)

Who are you to question why these hot young women want older men?
This type of behavior should be encouraged!
Of course I am a single guy who is pushing 40 so I may have a slightly biased opinion ;)


Well I am a single guy who is just past 20, who doesn't want to go out with teenage girls, so my opinion on this matter is absolutely objective. :p

Why would you not prefer a woman of your own age?

I have not met that many single women my own age that I am attracted to.
My wife and I met when she was 18 and I was 26 and we were together for 12 years.
She is a very attractive woman and I guess I am spoiled.

I have not met that many single women my own age that I am attracted to.
My wife and I met when she was 18 and I was 26 and we were together for 12 years.
She is a very attractive woman and I guess I am spoiled.

high school girls, I get older and they stay the same the age.:D

Perhaps older men are more likely to make a move, and since women are socially conditioned to expect the man to make a move, they end up with older men by default?

Actually, by now I've changed my mind. Especially at this point in time, in high school, with a lot of homework often, and wanting to spend spare time doing things in forums and video games I can at least say I did before I graduated high school, etc... at this point in time I think I'm probably better off outside that kind of relationship. I appreciate the advice, I really do, but I was just saying why I didn't before...

My IRL name is Matt, BTW...

No prob, Matt. But when you do find and cuddle with that special someone, you'll find your priorities changed, at the very least.

As for the topic at hand, sorry about how incomplete my earlier reply was, I was more so provoked and wanted to respond to Kryozerkia's generalization. Anyway, I think it varies too much from person to person for the "men are more mature" assumption OR the "that's not really true" assumption to be fitting... now, girls DO mature before boys PHYSICALLY, that much is confirmed as fact by elementary schools. But how the physical changes will affect them mentally would probably vary too much from person to person for any assumption to be certain...
Yeah, mental maturity is whole different ball game. Men also have to struggle with our second, more impulsive mind (EDIT: penis) as well.

I know I'm somewhat contradicting what I said on another site, but I'm surer of this one...
Embrace your inner hypocrite and you'll be FREE!

Among my peers (~20 y.o. Irish people), most of the females have (mostly slightly older) boyfriends, while my male peers, are, by a large majority single. What do the "sociologists" of NS have to say on the matter?

It's not an absolute truth, but it's a noticeable trend.

Don't tell me about maturity differences. Past 18 y.o. that's not really true,

Well to be completely frank you exclude the truth because you dont liek the answer. It is indeed maturity 18 year olds are hardly mature in any real sense.
Simply because chronologically it is considered "adult" it is hardly the case.

I am really in shock, I cant believe you would suggest an 18 year old is mature...you must be around 18.

Well to be completely frank you exclude the truth because you dont liek the answer. It is indeed maturity 18 year olds are hardly mature in any real sense.
Simply because chronologically it is considered "adult" it is hardly the case.

I am really in shock, I cant believe you would suggest an 18 year old is mature...you must be around 18.

When I was 18 I was much more mature than I am now at 26. I may be exceptional, of course. Certainly my 34 year old girlfriend at the time thought so. :) Odd.

Perhaps older men are more likely to make a move, and since women are socially conditioned to expect the man to make a move, they end up with older men by default?

I propose the encouragement of women to make moves.

I propose the encouragement of women to make moves.

You can experience that right now actually. Just ask around bars for "cougars" and let us know how it goes. :D

Older guys have cars and more money. Most people are shallow like that.

high school girls, I get older and they stay the same the age.:D

I am not out looking for high school girls!
I like women in the 25 to 35 year old age range myself.
Not that I would turn down a hot 19 year old if she came knocking on my door ;)

i have found that i am more mature in attidude than most of my peers around the same age as me, and i oftern can socialise with groups of older adults a lot easier than most other people i dont feel out of place, this maybe because i see myself as fairly intillectual and up to date with current affairs, and oftern mos of my female friends are older then me by a few years however it is the younger girls which seem to ask me out or who have girly crushs on me

i think the main reasoning is the older women see me as an equal in their midst in maturity and all that but that they are lookin for someone more mature than them or of their contemparies where as with the younger girls i am that more mature figure,

i do look fairly young and unless i grow some facial hair (which i shave cus i think just goiwn it cus u can unless its propper makes u look like an immature person physically cus its bum fluff) i oftern get id'd however my maturity and ability to easily converse with older adults has seen peopel think i am just a babyfaced chap in their late 20's even though im 18

my husband is 7 years older than me, I find him more on my level than most guys my age, I moved out young though and was pretty grown up already when I met him, where all the guys my age were still living at home being pathetic.

Plus, while men (biologically) attempt to find the most attractive mate, women are attracted to a mate that can best provide for their offspring, thus money/income/resources are an issue. Older men have more.
Women also find honest, smart, and dependable guys sexier so the two go hand-in-hand.

Meh. I've dated almost exclusively younger guys. But I'm no winner in the maturity department myself.

Why do older men want young women on their arms?
And what about me, I'm the older woman. ;)

well, you know what they say about those older models, they're allot more upkeep, but they're much more fun to drive...

As for me and my fiancee', we're only about 11 months apart in age, me being the older, but thats still quite close.

I am really in shock, I cant believe you would suggest an 18 year old is mature...you must be around 18.
That's not what I said. I said that past 18, the maturity difference between the two sexes diminishes to the negligible. Past that, the differences are mostly imagined.

When I was 18 I was much more mature than I am now at 26.
How?

I have not met that many single women my own age that I am attracted to.
Seriously? I don't understand that at all.

My wife and I met when she was 18 and I was 26 and we were together for 12 years.
I think that much of a difference, at that age, is kind of sick. There's surely a big power difference too.

Seriously? I don't understand that at all.

If i'm reading it correctly, I do. The majority of people over 20 are in a relationship.

Why do older men want young women on their arms?
And what about me, I'm the older woman. ;)

i prefere older women. easier to talk to.

Among my peers (~20 y.o. Irish people), most of the females have (mostly slightly older) boyfriends, while my male peers, are, by a large majority single. What do the "sociologists" of NS have to say on the matter?

I'm hoping not. ;)

If i'm reading it correctly, I do. The majority of people over 20 are in a relationship.
Do you know what I meant? I found it odd that he was only attracted to younger women.

Do you know what I meant? I found it odd that he was only attracted to younger women.

Yeah, I just interpreted what he said another way.

Yeah, I just interpreted what he said another way.
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How?

I was more mature. Obviously not physically, but in every other way. I needn't go into specifics if your issue here is not believing me.

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Well, I didn't think he was saying that he didn't find any women his age attractive and was only attracted to younger women. I thought the emphasis was on the "single women" part. Since most women around that age group are in relationships, I didn't think it was an unreasonable statement.

But I might have interpreted it wrongly.

That's not what I said. I said that past 18, the maturity difference between the two sexes diminishes to the negligible. Past that, the differences are mostly imagined.


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I think that much of a difference, at that age, is kind of sick. There's surely a big power difference too.

You're not contradicting yourself there a teensy little bit?
Either the age difference is negligable, in which case it won't make any difference at all.
Or else the age difference has some effect, in which case there might be a very good reason why some women prefer older men?

Personally, I don't care how old they are.

You're not contradicting yourself there a teensy little bit?
No, you just don't understand. The maturity difference between a 19-year old girl and a 19 y.o. guy is usually negligible, but the maturity difference between a 19-year old girl and a 29 y.o. guy is usually significant. I don't understand why a (relatively) old guy like that would want a girl that young, or vice versa.

I was more mature. Obviously not physically, but in every other way. I needn't go into specifics if your issue here is not believing me.
Brain damage? Excessive computer use? Drugs?

Brain damage? Excessive computer use? Drugs?

Um, no. I guess I stopped caring so much about "being mature."

No, you just don't understand. The maturity difference between a 19-year old girl and a 19 y.o. guy is usually negligible, but the maturity difference between a 19-year old girl and a 29 y.o. guy is usually significant. I don't understand why a (relatively) old guy like that would want a girl that young, or vice versa.


The difference in maturity between the average 19 yo girl and the average 19 yo boy is still significant.
And why would you have a problem with the partners other people chose for themselves?

The difference in maturity between the average 19 yo girl and the average 19 yo boy is still significant.
And in most cases completely mythical. It's a stereotype.

And why would you have a problem with the partners other people chose for themselves?
How dare I express my thoughts. Would you see nothing wrong with a 17 year old and a 12 year old? It's the same thing with a 29 y.o. and 19 y.o. - big power difference. I also think that all these old guys who want some "hot young ass" are borderlines paedophiles.

And why would you have a problem with the partners other people chose for themselves?He's pissy 'cause he's single. ;)

All I see are consenting adults getting some. What's to get uptight about?

Why am I not surprised that you're single?

I'm suprised he hasn't been put into a coma yet.

I'm hoping not. ;)

I wonder who that could be a reference to :p

personally myself, i have always prefered older women cause i think women my age are too immature.

I like the minds of the older women but the bodies of the younger ones. if I could find a woman in her late 20s who looked 18 that would be ideal. Someone told me a mans ideal partner is half his age plus 7. that makes mine 19, so I like the theory very much.

I'm 40 and going out with a girl who is 19. Does that make me a bad person?

I like the minds of the older women but the bodies of the younger ones. if I could find a woman in her late 20s who looked 18 that would be ideal. Someone told me a mans ideal partner is half his age plus 7. that makes mine 19, so I like the theory very much.

I think the plus 7 is if the half part puts her under 18.

I'm 40 and going out with a girl who is 19. Does that make me a bad person?

No, just a bit shallow. There's plenty other stuff that makes you a bad person.


Sometimes though, for some reason I'm extremely attracted to women who are significantly older than myself. I don't know if it's for similar reasons to why women like older men, since certainly none of it is financial/resource based (money, ironically, tends to be a turn-off).

Well, I didn't think he was saying that he didn't find any women his age attractive and was only attracted to younger women. I thought the emphasis was on the "single women" part. Since most women around that age group are in relationships, I didn't think it was an unreasonable statement.

But I might have interpreted it wrongly.

Nope you got it exactly right.

Because then they do not need to find someone to boot for them.

I think that much of a difference, at that age, is kind of sick. There's surely a big power difference too.

It is a long story.
But the abridged version is this.
She was dating a friend of mine who was a couple years younger than me.
I already knew her for 2 years when we got together.
Her age really was not a factor to me and, in her eyes, neither was mine.

Oh and for the record she dumped me for a guy that is 3 years older than I am.

The difference in maturity between the average 19 yo girl and the average 19 yo boy is still significant.
No, it's negligible if even measurable. There are more and less mature individuals of both varieties.

Perhaps you have been dating or hanging around the wrong flavors of one or the other.

It is because men are like good wine. We get better with age. :D

Given that the choice goes both ways:

Women tend to go for older guys.
Guys tend to go for younger women.

What does your statement imply about women....


Bt anyway - the maturity thing is a bit off really - the supposedly more mature older guys sure aint mature enough to be going for older women. In fact the 'mature' guys still go for young women - what does this really say about the supposed maturity?


I think the reasons are as follows:

1. Society has worked this way for a while. men and women are in part conditioned to choose on these basises.

2. A man with means is more attractive than an otherwise equal man without means. Older men tend to have more means.

3. Men go more for looks, women go more for personality. Older men have much more practice chatting up women, so pick women up more easily. The older men tend to go for younger women as men go based more on looks.

4. Maturity gives an impression of authority - people grow up with people more mature than them having authority - parents, teachers, older siblings etc. Women tend to be more attracted to authority than men (who go more on looks).

Me now (25), compared with when i was 20 i am

more financially stable
more emotionally stable and mature
more physically appealing
more educated, refined, and well rounded
more confident
more sexually talented

I wouldnt have dated me at 20. Now however i reckon girls could do worse.