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England only - in different countries, the same emergency service (for example, fire brigade) may have different duties, so please only answer this if you live in England, thanks):

I've never had to deal with the following situation, and hopefully such a situation will never arise, but I've been thinking about this as I walked along a road, alongside a river, next to uni...

...the river flows partially alongside the road, but to get to it from the road, (unless you trekked to near another part of it), you would have to jump down from a fence, potentially killing yourself or becoming injured when you hit the banks of the river below. So what if someone had somehow been blown over the other side of the fence and was hanging on for dear life, who would you call - fire brigade, coastguard, mountain rescue, or another emergency service? The river does not flow UNDER the road, plus the part of the banks I am thinking of is far below the fence, meaning a boat wouldn't be a heck of a lot of use, if any use at all. Fire brigade would almost certainly be quickest, but how would they reach the person? Cliff rescue would have a helicopter, but would almost certainly take a long time. Ignoring possibilities of dragging the person back over the fence, and assuming you would need the intervention of the emergency services, who would you call?

Probably cliff rescue, with backup from fire brigade. I think in this situation I'd just tell the emergency operator what was up and just let them dispatch the appropriate services.

All of them.

Yeah, all of them sounds good.

All of them.

You're from Michigan, which as far as I'm aware does not exist in England. Thus, you don't count :p

You're from Michigan, which as far as I'm aware does not exist in England. Thus, you don't count :p

Didn't you hear that England annexed Michigan?

Yeah, all of them sounds good.

You're from Ireland, you count neither :p

Didn't you hear that England annexed Michigan?

Say what?

You're from Ireland, you count neither :p

Our emergency services are pretty similar. Though I'm not sure we have a cliff rescue, chances are the coast guard does that.

Say what?

Yeah, Michigan is part of the New British Emparh.

England only - in different countries, the same emergency service (for example, fire brigade) may have different duties, so please only answer this if you live in England, thanks):

I've never had to deal with the following situation, and hopefully such a situation will never arise, but I've been thinking about this as I walked along a road, alongside a river, next to uni...

...the river flows partially alongside the road, but to get to it from the road, (unless you trekked to near another part of it), you would have to jump down from a fence, potentially killing yourself or becoming injured when you hit the banks of the river below. So what if someone had somehow been blown over the other side of the fence and was hanging on for dear life, who would you call - fire brigade, coastguard, cliff rescue, or another emergency service? The river does not flow UNDER the road, plus the part of the banks I am thinking of is far below the fence, meaning a boat wouldn't be a heck of a lot of use, if any use at all. Fire brigade would almost certainly be quickest, but how would they reach the person? Cliff rescue would have a helicopter, but would almost certainly take a long time. Ignoring possibilities of dragging the person back over the fence, and assuming you would need the intervention of the emergency services, who would you call?
Having worked on BT's 999 services, I know the solution. You would request the FIRE BRIGADE, MOUNTAIN RESCUE, and AMBULANCE on the same call. Request the MR first; after speaking to them, the emergency operator will stay on the line and connect you to the fire service. By the time you finish the call, both services should be en route. The ambulance service, in some areas, may be able to send an air ambulance (with some rescue equipment) quicker than mountain rescue.

You guys have a "cliff rescue"?

Funk-ay.

England only - in different countries, the same emergency service (for example, fire brigade) may have different duties, so please only answer this if you live in England, thanks):

I've never had to deal with the following situation, and hopefully such a situation will never arise, but I've been thinking about this as I walked along a road, alongside a river, next to uni...

...the river flows partially alongside the road, but to get to it from the road, (unless you trekked to near another part of it), you would have to jump down from a fence, potentially killing yourself or becoming injured when you hit the banks of the river below. So what if someone had somehow been blown over the other side of the fence and was hanging on for dear life, who would you call - fire brigade, coastguard, cliff rescue, or another emergency service? The river does not flow UNDER the road, plus the part of the banks I am thinking of is far below the fence, meaning a boat wouldn't be a heck of a lot of use, if any use at all. Fire brigade would almost certainly be quickest, but how would they reach the person? Cliff rescue would have a helicopter, but would almost certainly take a long time. Ignoring possibilities of dragging the person back over the fence, and assuming you would need the intervention of the emergency services, who would you call?

You call 911. The operator will ask you which service. If you do not know they will put you through to the police controllers who will take the details and dispatch other services if deemed necessary.

You call 911. The operator will ask you which service. If you do not know they will put you through to the police controllers who will take the details and dispatch other services if deemed necessary.

If I called 911 the person would most likely fall by the time any help arrived, since it wouldn't connect to anything when called from England :p

EDIT: I just realised you're apparently in the UK. Yet you say call 911 (instead of 999 / 112)? Methinks something strange is going on

You guys have a "cliff rescue"?

Funk-ay.

After looking it up, not so sure we do any more. I'll check on a BT phonebox later :)

You call 999/112. The operator will ask you which service. If you do not know they will put you through to the police controllers who will take the details and dispatch other services if deemed necessary.

Fixed. Silly RC.

After looking it up, not so sure we do any more.
:eek:
Oh noes, who will rescue the cliffs, then?

:eek:
Oh noes, who will rescue the cliffs, then?

Soil Erosion. Serious business.

:eek:
Oh noes, who will rescue the cliffs, then?

Strange person. I think mountain rescue may have replaced it. I'm too curious not to go check the BT phonebox outside. BRB

O.K. just found out there's apparently no cliff rescue service in England any more. However, there is aparently a mountain rescue service, a coastguard, and a cave rescue service

EDITED DUE TO MISTAKE - SEE BOLD WRITING

O.K. just found out there's apparently no cliff rescue service in England any more. However, there is aparently a mountain rescue service, a coastguard, and a cliff rescue service

:confused:

O.K. just found out there's apparently no cliff rescue service in England any more. However, there is aparently a mountain rescue service, a coastguard, and a cliff rescue service

And you call me strange person? :p


ETA: Heh, Ifreann, great minds...

:confused:


OOPS. CORRECTED IT

And you call me strange person? :p


ETA: Heh, Ifreann, great minds...

see above post :p

see above post :p

Ah, well, good to see that at least the mountains and the caves are safe. :fluffle:

Ah, well, good to see that at least the mountains and the caves are safe. :fluffle:

So who do you call if a mountain falls down a cave?

So who do you call if a mountain falls down a cave?
Don't be silly now. :rolleyes:

Don't be silly now. :rolleyes:

But....but..my pet mountain is trapped down a cave with some potholers/moutaineers.

But....but..my pet mountain is trapped down a cave with some potholers/moutaineers.

Call these people http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/

Call these people http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/

Yay! Will they help my pet mountain?

Yay! Will they help my pet mountain?

No, but they're nice kind people who will lock you in a room and inject drugs into your body :)

To solve the trouble I would call the armed branch of the met.
They have jolly good snipers in need of training.

I refer to some miss' like the guy with a table leg under the arm or the Brazilian terorrist.

If I called 911 the person would most likely fall by the time any help arrived, since it wouldn't connect to anything when called from England :p

EDIT: I just realised you're apparently in the UK. Yet you say call 911 (instead of 999 / 112)? Methinks something strange is going on

yeah....errr....bad keyboard control??? DOh!!!!

Don't be silly now. :rolleyes:

Well, technically, a landslide into a cave could be considered...

Why only England? :confused:

Say what?

I thought Canada annexed it....





O-h, i-o.....

Why only England? :confused:

See first post, the bit in bold :p

See first post, the bit in bold :p

Yea...but you do realise that the rest of the UK has essentially the same services?

Tell the dispatcher you need all of them, except police but definitely ambulance.

Yea...but you do realise that the rest of the UK has essentially the same services?

I thought it might not be the same, especially in Northern Ireland.

I thought it might not be the same, especially in Northern Ireland.

It's all pretty standard as far as I know. Last time I had reason to call 999 I was connected to some English guy.

It's all pretty standard as far as I know. Last time I had reason to call 999 I was connected to some English guy.

I thought that Northern Ireland especially would be different, considering the fact that they have a different type of police force and I think a different governing structure

the fire briade would probs be mot usefull cus they have the winchs n stuff in their upply tucks so would be able to get their although i used to live in canada briefly their firemen had trained paramedics on board, nd we should also have the same so in his case the fire briade would be able to rescue and give basic treatment to the persn untill the ambulance arrived, because otherwise they would have to get paramedic down there, which would endnger another life

i didn't know the emergency services did stuff differently in scotland from their english counterparts?

the fire briade would probs be mot usefull cus they have the winchs n stuff in their upply tucks so would be able to get their although i used to live in canada briefly their firemen had trained paramedics on board, nd we should also have the same so in his case the fire briade would be able to rescue and give basic treatment to the persn untill the ambulance arrived, because otherwise they would have to get paramedic down there, which would endnger another life

As far as I'm aware, fire fighters in England are trained in First Aid and have oxygen equipment.

Wow...you guys get weird by the day...pronouncing 'z' as 'zed' and now sepearate emergency services? We just dial 911 or 0.

I thought that Northern Ireland especially would be different, considering the fact that they have a different type of police force and I think a different governing structure

Nope, it's all the same. Phone lines is phone lines, emergency response is emergency response. Except for the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, but they're kooky.

they are trained in first aid but its very basic, i was saying there should be a member of the crew who is a trained paramedic, as this wouldhelp save countless lives especially when they are dealing with car accidents when oftern the ambulances take a while to reach the accidents because they are often overstreched