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A criminal case hinges on just that question. It seems some very horny and disturbed fellow was caught having sexual relations with a dead deer. Now it's a crime to have sex with an animal, but there are no laws against having sex with a carcass. Should this guy be punished or not? I say no. He didn't harm anyone's property or endanger anyone's safety, nor was he cruel to an animal. You can't really be cruel to something that's already dead, right?

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/articles/index.cfm?id=28526&CFID=6281210&CFTOKEN=39019345&jsessionid=8830619184285f13582d&forumcomm_check_return&freebie_check

Errr...? :confused:

...Uuuhhh...

A criminal case hinges on just that question. It seems some very horny and disturbed fellow was caught having sexual relations with a dead deer. Now it's a crime to have sex with an animal, but there are no laws against having sex with a carcass. Should this guy be punished or not? I say no. He didn't harm anyone's property or endanger anyone's safety, nor was he cruel to an animal. You can't really be cruel to something that's already dead, right? [/url]I'd say in either case there's a screw loose. And who knows, he might have killed the deer for this express purpose.
I'm sure they can get him for something. Public indency, perhaps.

Either way, he's sick.

Ehh... ehm... heh heh...
*backs away from thread*

You can't really be cruel to something that's already dead, right?

Depends. Would I be allowed to let Bubba fuck your corpse ?

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Depends. Would I be allowed to let Bubba fuck your corpse ?

Would he be capable of caring?

Depends. Would I be allowed to let Bubba fuck your corpse ?

I wouldn't care. I'd be dead, I wouldn't exist anymore. If Bubba wants to fuck a corpse, let him fuck a corpse.

Would he be capable of caring?

One can care about what happens with ones corpse or other possesions after death.
But otherwise, no.

It's not rape to satisfy yourself with Aunt Lulu's corpse, but I doubt you'd get off without some legal consequences. Pun intended.

I wouldn't care. I'd be dead, I wouldn't exist anymore. If Bubba wants to fuck a corpse, let him fuck a corpse.

And are you of the opinion that decisions you make now, while alive, as to what should happen to your possessions after you die should be honoured ?

If so, why ?

This is just to determine if one can do harm to a dead person.

And are you of the opinion that decisions you make now, while alive, as to what should happen to your possessions after you die should be honoured ?

If so, why ?

This is just to determine if one can do harm to a death person.

I think the relatives and friends of the deceased have a say in what happens to his property, and if there is a will it should be honored because it clarifies which friends and relatives were closest to the deceased.

I think the relatives and friends of the deceased have a say in what happens to his property, and if there is a will it should be honored because it clarifies which friends and relatives were closest to the deceased.

But why are the wishes of the deceased relevant ? He would not know, since he is gone.

But why are the wishes of the deceased relevant ? He would not know, since he is gone.

It's not so much for the deceased, but to give the relatives and friends who were close to him something to remember him by and perhaps some money or goods which they can use to better their own lives. Kind of like a prize for being a good friend or relative.

Ok, now this is some sick stuff. I never thought I would hear of necrophilia and bestiality at the same time.

Okay - I've heard of necrophilia and zoophilia, but never necro-zoophilia. Or would that be zoo-necrophilia?

Either way: whatever floats your boat. I've heard of kinkier perversions than wanting to bonk a dead Bambi.

Ok, now this is some sick stuff. I never thought I would hear of necrophilia and bestiality at the same time.

Necrobeastiality *nodnod* That's nothing...Auto-homonecroincestualpedobeastiality is where it's at, and don't ask me how that works.

Necrobeastiality *nodnod* That's nothing...Auto-homonecroincestualpedobeastiality is where it's at, and don't ask me how that works.

Yeah, but Auto-homonecroincestualpedobeastialityasphyxiation is taking things a little too far.

I don't think that would. Unless you're talking about your dog wanting to bang a dead litter-mate.

Necrobeastiality *nodnod* That's nothing...Auto-homonecroincestualpedobeastiality is where it's at, and don't ask me how that works.
From that, I derived it's sexual relations with yourself, where you're dead and you're an underage animal. :confused:

From that, I derived it's sexual relations with yourself, where you're dead and you're an underage animal. :confused:

Well, you also have to be related to yourself and the same gender as your self, but yeah, techincally.

Ok, now this is some sick stuff. I never thought I would hear of necrophilia and bestiality at the same time.

I dunno... was it an adult deer... and was it a buck or a doe?



as Jay Leno said...
he was obviously mesmerized by the huge rack.


I wanna know... now that he shot that deer, is he going to eat it?

Hell of a defense:

"Your honor, I thought the deer was dead. I would have sex with a live deer. That's sick!"

A criminal case hinges on just that question. It seems some very horny and disturbed fellow was caught having sexual relations with a dead deer. Now it's a crime to have sex with an animal, but there are no laws against having sex with a carcass. Should this guy be punished or not? I say no. He didn't harm anyone's property or endanger anyone's safety, nor was he cruel to an animal. You can't really be cruel to something that's already dead, right?

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/articles/index.cfm?id=28526&CFID=6281210&CFTOKEN=39019345&jsessionid=8830619184285f13582d&forumcomm_check_return&freebie_check
He should be punished because the carcass is still animal and he caused indignity to Bambi and Santa's Reindeer.

there are no laws against having sex with a carcass.
Thank God. I shudder to think of the legislator who could actually anticipate such a situation...

While his preferences may seem obscure to some people, I can see nothing wrong with his actions, whether the deer was dead or alive. However, he would lose a lot of respect in my eyes if the deer was alive (unless it also enjoyed the act, but that can never be ascertained). There is absolutely no problem whatsoever if the act involved only an inanimate object -- it could have been a glass jar instead of a deer for all that it matters.

they are arguing semantics on the law i think he will get away with the necrobestiality as its not a criminal offence however im sure they will find something minor to get him with like capone got done for tax issues

While his preferences may seem obscure to some people, I can see nothing wrong with his actions, whether the deer was dead or alive. However, he would lose a lot of respect in my eyes if the deer was alive (unless it also enjoyed the act, but that can never be ascertained). There is absolutely no problem whatsoever if the act involved only an inanimate object -- it could have been a glass jar instead of a deer for all that it matters.
:headbang:

Both.
Ew.

I say: innocent.

Cruelty cannot obtain if the animal is dead.

A criminal case hinges on just that question. It seems some very horny and disturbed fellow was caught having sexual relations with a dead deer. Now it's a crime to have sex with an animal, but there are no laws against having sex with a carcass. Should this guy be punished or not? I say no. He didn't harm anyone's property or endanger anyone's safety, nor was he cruel to an animal. You can't really be cruel to something that's already dead, right?

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/articles/index.cfm?id=28526&CFID=6281210&CFTOKEN=39019345&jsessionid=8830619184285f13582d&forumcomm_check_return&freebie_check

Bestiality and necrophilia. This guy has achieved a whole new level of totally sick and wrong. :gundge:

usually people like to lock up the crazies.

usually people like to lock up the crazies.

Depends. It's like George Carlin says, "You have to keep some of them around for the entertainment! Like a guy who tells you the king of Sweden is using his penis as a radio transmitter to send anti-semitic lesbian meatloaf recipes to Soupy Sales and Marvin Hamlisch. A guy like that, you want to give him his own radio show!"

Depends. It's like George Carlin says, "You have to keep some of them around for the entertainment! Like a guy who tells you the king of Sweden is using his penis as a radio transmitter to send anti-semitic lesbian meatloaf recipes to Soupy Sales and Marvin Hamlisch. A guy like that, you want to give him his own radio show!"

you can give a radio show, as long as he isnt allowed to leave the station!

Bestiality and necrophilia. This guy has achieved a whole new level of totally sick and wrong. :gundge:

At least he wasn't into pyronecrobestiality.:D

Cruelty cannot obtain if the animal is dead.

*Hopes you're right, since he is eating meat tonight*

Ok, so this fucker killed a horse to have sex with it and was previously convicted for it, and faces huge jail time now.

I think he should go away for "failure to learn".

I was going to make some kind of joke about keeping it in the privacy of your own home and not being out in public, but ew.

Wait, Crazy McNuckingfutz killed the horse? The source I read said he'd been convicted for shooting a dead horse with the intent of, well, screwing it. But this is worse.

And then he "found" bambi in a ditch...

I think we can all find one bright spot to this story, though. I mean, at least he didn't do this in front of a daycare center!:eek:

Let's just say that the same fellow hunted down and killed a whole bunch of cherries, took them home and baked them in a pie, and then proceeded to have his way with the dead cherries. Should we Arrest him for necro-pastry-philia? Have his dad give him a stern talking-to? Make a series of teen films about him? Eat the pie?American society has made abberant sex a mainstream non-issue. Despite a high 'ewww' factor, I'm not sure I disagree with society. Who got hurt here, anyway?

Should we Arrest him for necro-pastry-philia? Have his dad give him a stern talking-to? Make a series of teen films about him? Eat the pie?

E. Arrest him for wasting sperm, and thereby killing potential humans and upsetting God.
(it will be a valid option for some)

Hmmm, tricky one this, technically I cant think of any harm done in such an act as long as no one else has to bear witness to it, yet the same does not apply to human corpses because we're more important than animals. (???, shouldnt it just apply to all corpses?) Although it could easily be a crime as one against nature, which it certainly appears to be, just in being so gross. (its not very safe either is it, think of the diseases he could pick up)

But seriously the dude is a mental case, he probably should be monitored at the very least or just locked up because he'll probably do something very harmful to a person in the near future

Let's just say that the same fellow hunted down and killed a whole bunch of cherries, took them home and baked them in a pie, and then proceeded to have his way with the dead cherries. Should we Arrest him for necro-pastry-philia? Have his dad give him a stern talking-to? Make a series of teen films about him? Eat the pie?American society has made abberant sex a mainstream non-issue. Despite a high 'ewww' factor, I'm not sure I disagree with society. Who got hurt here, anyway?

Anything but D, please God, anything but D!

Or C for that Matter.

Let's just say that the same fellow hunted down and killed a whole bunch of cherries, took them home and baked them in a pie, and then proceeded to have his way with the dead cherries. Should we Arrest him for necro-pastry-philia? Have his dad give him a stern talking-to? Make a series of teen films about him? Eat the pie?American society has made abberant sex a mainstream non-issue. Despite a high 'ewww' factor, I'm not sure I disagree with society. Who got hurt here, anyway?

EDIT: I didn't read it carefully enough. A and B, C has already been done, and D is just gross.

Let's just say that the same fellow hunted down and killed a whole bunch of cherries, took them home and baked them in a pie, and then proceeded to have his way with the dead cherries. Should we Arrest him for necro-pastry-philia? Have his dad give him a stern talking-to? Make a series of teen films about him? Eat the pie?American society has made abberant sex a mainstream non-issue. Despite a high 'ewww' factor, I'm not sure I disagree with society. Who got hurt here, anyway?

... Would this hypothetical person be willing to bake me a pie too? :D

... Would this hypothetical person be willing to bake me a pie too? :D

ew....

ew....

Actually, I agree. I'm more of a strawberry rhubarb man. *nod*

Actually, I agree. I'm more of a strawberry rhubarb man. *nod*

I am just going to shut up. :eek:

I am just going to shut up. :eek:

I suspect it's too late. The damage is done. :)

EDIT: I didn't read it carefully enough. A and B, C has already been done, and D is just gross.

When was someone arrested for getting jiggy with a pie?

When was someone arrested for getting jiggy with a pie?

If it's someone else's pie, I suspect you would.

That was an amusing if sick scene from American Pie, though.

It's kind of unsavoury, but I can't really see that what he did is worthy of being illegal.

You can kill a deer, skin it to make boots and then dismember and eat its carcass.

But you can't have sex with it? No, that's bullshit.

Let's just say that the same fellow hunted down and killed a whole bunch of cherries, took them home and baked them in a pie, and then proceeded to have his way with the dead cherries. Should we Arrest him for necro-pastry-philia? Have his dad give him a stern talking-to? Make a series of teen films about him? Eat the pie?American society has made abberant sex a mainstream non-issue. Despite a high 'ewww' factor, I'm not sure I disagree with society. Who got hurt here, anyway?

Vegetarians tell me there is a huge difference between a dead fruit and a dead animal. I think they may be correct.

And yeah, it may be a victimless crime, but there weren't any victims when I drove 14 mph over the speed limit. I still got pulled over and fined for it though. He should at the very least get the same. Maybe he could go to the equivalent of driving school like I had to. "No corpse-fucking" school?

Vegetarians tell me there is a huge difference between a dead fruit and a dead animal. I think they may be correct.

And yeah, it may be a victimless crime, but there weren't any victims when I drove 14 mph over the speed limit. I still got pulled over and fined for it though. He should at the very least get the same. Maybe he could go to the equivalent of driving school like I had to. "No corpse-fucking" school?

There may have been no victims, but there COULD have been when you were speeding. By doing so, you were not just taking an unnecessary chance with your safety(which is fine by me), but you were risking the safety of every other car around you. And they had no say in your increased risk to them.

On the other hand, fucking a dead deer really doesn't risk anybody else's safety. Unless you're doing it while driving. :p

There may have been no victims, but there COULD have been when you were speeding. By doing so, you were not just taking an unnecessary chance with your safety(which is fine by me), but you were risking the safety of every other car around you. And they had no say in your increased risk to them.

On the other hand, fucking a dead deer really doesn't risk anybody else's safety. Unless you're doing it while driving. :p

Having sex with dead mammals carries with it a high risk of bacterial infection.

I don't want some disease I only got cuz of some corpse-fucker's unnecessary risks!

Also, there COULD have been a victim in the sense that a man who will have sex with an dead animal is mentally unbalanced enough to pose a further risk to have sex with a live one, or a dead human, or something. I don't really buy that this was just a one-time act by a sane individual, it is indicative of potentially more serious and victim-creating behaviour.

Either way, he's sick.

Yes, but sickness isn't a crime. We don't arrest people who stockpile old newspapers in their apartments because their OCD compells them not to throw them out. Nor do we arrest depressives who can't motivate themselves to hold down a job and end up loitering on the streets.

Sending this guy to jail isn't going to help anything.

Having sex with dead mammals carries with it a high risk of bacterial infection.

I don't want some disease I only got cuz of some corpse-fucker's unnecessary risks!

Also, there COULD have been a victim in the sense that a man who will have sex with an dead animal is mentally unbalanced enough to pose a further risk to have sex with a live one, or a dead human, or something. I don't really buy that this was just a one-time act by a sane individual, it is indicative of potentially more serious and victim-creating behaviour.

How would you get this disease off of him? Are you a corpse-fucker-fucker? Lots of things carry a risk of "victim-creating" behavior. That doesn't mean that it's right to arrest them before they do any such thing.

The FBI has huge lists of profiles of what type of person commits what type of crime. That doesn't mean that we should go and arrest every bald, fat, underemployed middle-aged White guy who lives with his mother because there's a good chance he's going to become a child molester.

How would you get this disease off of him? Are you a corpse-fucker-fucker? Lots of things carry a risk of "victim-creating" behavior. That doesn't mean that it's right to arrest them before they do any such thing.

I might indeed be a corpse-fucker-fucker if a corpse-fucker chooses to hide the fact that he's had sex with corpses. Though it's unlikely since I'm a heterosexual male and I can't imagine very many women who have sex with dead animals.

But there are plenty of ways to spread diseases gained from such manner. Rotting flesh is infested with bacteria, and its by no means a purely sexual-transmitted thing, that's why there are also laws governing public health concerning corpses of any kind.

The FBI has huge lists of profiles of what type of person commits what type of crime. That doesn't mean that we should go and arrest every bald, fat, underemployed middle-aged White guy who lives with his mother because there's a good chance he's going to become a child molester.

True. Because there a lot of fat, bald, underemployed middle-aged white guys living with their mothers who never molest children. Can you really give me any guarantees about corpse-fuckers? Let's face it, necrophilia is not like simply being fat, bald, or underemployed - those things are not symptoms of severe mental instability.

Having sex with dead mammals carries with it a high risk of bacterial infection.

I don't want some disease I only got cuz of some corpse-fucker's unnecessary risks!

Also, there COULD have been a victim in the sense that a man who will have sex with an dead animal is mentally unbalanced enough to pose a further risk to have sex with a live one, or a dead human, or something. I don't really buy that this was just a one-time act by a sane individual, it is indicative of potentially more serious and victim-creating behaviour.

Well, when he starts killing people's pets to have sex with their corpses, we'll lock him up. :)

Well, when he starts killing people's pets to have sex with their corpses, we'll lock him up. :)

Pfft. When I start killing people with my car, then I'll pay my fine. :p

Somehow, I don't think that'll fly with those puritannical police..

The real question. Was it a female deer? After all, we need to find out if the guy is sane. (:p)