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Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

Go emo. If that doesn't work. get a bunch of weed and go through school high.

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

1. Listen to some music.

2. Become asocial. Not anti-, but asocial, simply not participating.

3. Listen to music.

4. Lie about your religion

5. Try some music.

I also recommend an extra side dose of music for those down times in between. It's how I get by! :D

Go emo. If that doesn't work. get a bunch of weed and go through school high.

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of Christian fundies. I'd borrow my friend's Wicca necklace, bring all my Harry Potter books, wear black as much as possible, and mention that I'm a maltheist. ;)

a town full of Buddhist fundies? Rob everything and everyone!!!

a town full of Buddhist fundies? Rob everything and everyone!!!

Isn't that kind of a contradiction? I mean, Buddhism seems like one of the few religions that can't have a real fundamentalist element especially with that whole "encouraging rational thought" thing.

Nahh, the best kind of fundies would be either some kind of vaguely Abrahamic theists or really hard-core atheists.

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

I try to be amused rather than aggravated. It would be difficult, but I'd try.

For further amusement, I'd set to work quietly "corrupting" the youth of the town.


Edit: for the record, I am religious, just not a fundamentalist or a Christian/Jew/Muslim

Isn't that kind of a contradiction? I mean, Buddhism seems like one of the few religions that can't have a real fundamentalist element especially with that whole "encouraging rational thought" thing.

Nahh, the best kind of fundies would be either some kind of vaguely Abrahamic theists or really hard-core atheists.

That's where I was going. What happens in my story is Janie has all this stuff and her fundie mom catches her with it, and finds out that Janie is maltheist/atheist. Mrs. Mason (Jane's mom) tries to convert Janie back but winds up having to send her to an uber-fundie boarding school. *nod*

Oh, what I would do is simply ignore them and focus on myself. You can't do anything to people whose minds are closed shut.

I try to be amused rather than aggravated. It would be difficult, but I'd try.

For further amusement, I'd set to work quietly "corrupting" the youth of the town.

Oh hell yeah. :)

Oh, what I would do is simply ignore them and focus on myself. You can't do anything to people whose minds are closed shut.

You can scare them.

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

I would...

Drink

Listen to music

Thrash on my guitar

Get into fights with fundies...

yeah, that's about it. Pretty much the same way I deal with ghetto people...

Convert one of them to be like me. That way I have at least one friend. The rest can go fuck themselves.

That's where I was going. What happens in my story is Janie has all this stuff and her fundie mom catches her with it, and finds out that Janie is maltheist/atheist. Mrs. Mason (Jane's mom) tries to convert Janie back but winds up having to send her to an uber-fundie boarding school. *nod*

And, of course, if you wanted to go 1984ish you could have the boarding school break her down and end it with a disturbingly fanatical alter call scene.

Or you could have her reconsider her own beliefs as well and make a new decision with the lesson that no one belief system has all of the answers. Or, you could have it end up with her prior beliefs being reinforced by the experience.

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

If you were stuck with Christian "fundies," you'd probably be bored and/or preached at for a few years until you were 18 and able to leave.

If you were stuck with Islamic "fundies," you'd be lucky to survive until you're 18.

Nice try at equating all "fundies," but that dog won't hunt.

You can scare them.

Nahh, that just unifies them against the source of fear. A belief system based on fear only gets stronger if you add more to what they're afraid of.

Nahh, that just unifies them against the source of fear. A belief system based on fear only gets stronger if you add more to what they're afraid of.

But it's fun!

But it's fun!

Fun, yeah, but also dangerous especially if they're in the Middle East.

I would argue with them, constantly. I wouldn't be able to do otherwise; I can't restrain myself.

In so doing, I would anger them so much that there would probably be highly unfortunate consequences.

If you were stuck with Christian "fundies," you'd probably be bored and/or preached at for a few years until you were 18 and able to leave.

If you were stuck with Islamic "fundies," you'd be lucky to survive until you're 18.

Nice try at equating all "fundies," but that dog won't hunt.

If you were stuck with Jewish fundies, would you get nagged to death? :p

really hard-core atheists.

why would you want that they could kick your ass?

what I'm getting at is so long as the whole town is full of strict pacifists (turn the other cheek and such) you can be King :D Muslim/Jewish fundies could be fun too because I can freak people out in the locker room with my hat

And, of course, if you wanted to go 1984ish you could have the boarding school break her down and end it with a disturbingly fanatical alter call scene.

Or you could have her reconsider her own beliefs as well and make a new decision with the lesson that no one belief system has all of the answers. Or, you could have it end up with her prior beliefs being reinforced by the experience.

:eek: How did you know I was goign to do a 1984-ish ending?! :eek:
I swear, everyone on this forum is psychic! :eek:

why would you want that they could kick your ass?

Because that would be a lot scarier...

what I'm getting at is so long as the whole town is full of strict pacifists (turn the other cheek and such) you can be King :D Muslim/Jewish fundies could be fun too because I can freak people out in the locker room with my hat

That would be cool...a society so pacifist that it is taken over by the one person willing to use violence.

If you were stuck with Jewish fundies, would you get nagged to death? :p

Jewish fundies can actually be pretty scary.

I'd probably commit suicide.

If you were stuck with Jewish fundies, would you get nagged to death? :p

I don't know enough Jewsih fundies to tell you that.

Hell, I don't know enough Jews to tell you that...

Jewish fundies can actually be pretty scary.

Fundies of any religion can be pretty scary.

Because that would be a lot scarier...



That would be cool...a society so pacifist that it is taken over by the one person willing to use violence.
"I've been thinking how wonderful it would be if all humans renounced violence forever."
"That's a beautiful thought, Dogbert."
"If nobody else was violent, I could conquer the whole stupid planet with just a butter knife."

:eek: How did you know I was goign to do a 1984-ish ending?! :eek:
I swear, everyone on this forum is psychic! :eek:

A 1984 ending (a GOOD one):

Kid is walking back from class one day. Fundies kidnap, attack, haze, rape, or whatever. Kid is tortured until she abandons her maltheist ways and is a little *makes pyscho noises* until the end.


Of course, a better ending:

Kid walking back from school at the start of some long break. Fundies assault. One fundie becomes a maltheist, bails the original out, the others see "the light", and the entire school slowly falls apart. After break, the maltheists return to the fundie teachers who deprogram the students, trying extra hard on the original. She is brainwashed but snaps back before the end of the year and then falls to her death.

Oh hell yeah. :)

Most definitely. "Corrupting" their youth (really just gradually ending their ignorance) would be the most destructive thing I could possibly do to their community's way of life.

The "converts" (for lack of a better word) would be better off anyway.

A 1984 ending (a GOOD one):

Kid is walking back from class one day. Fundies kidnap, attack, haze, rape, or whatever. Kid is tortured until she abandons her maltheist ways and is a little *makes pyscho noises* until the end.


Of course, a better ending:

Kid walking back from school at the start of some long break. Fundies assault. One fundie becomes a maltheist, bails the original out, the others see "the light", and the entire school slowly falls apart. After break, the maltheists return to the fundie teachers who deprogram the students, trying extra hard on the original. She is brainwashed but snaps back before the end of the year and then falls to her death.

Well, in 1984 Winston is tortured and brainwashed, and then he willingly joins the Party. In my story Janie is betrayed by her "friend" who turns out to be a fundie, gets into loads of trouble, and is sent to the principal's office, and the principal basically brainwashes her. She converts willingly in church. That was kind what I was going for.

Jewish fundies can actually be pretty scary.

...I just had an image of a Hasidic Jewish suicide bomber, yelling "Oi!" as he detonated himself.


Of course, a better ending:

Kid walking back from school at the start of some long break. Fundies assault. One fundie becomes a maltheist, bails the original out, the others see "the light", and the entire school slowly falls apart. After break, the maltheists return to the fundie teachers who deprogram the students, trying extra hard on the original. She is brainwashed but snaps back before the end of the year and then falls to her death.
That's not a better ending, that's a Hollywood cop-out. A proverbial boot stamping on a human face forever would be much more appropriate.

I'd mock them.

I'd mock everything they did.

I'd mock everything they said.

I wouldn't discuss my beliefs openly, perhaps attempt to sow some seeds of doubt in my peers and hope to find one that's reasonable and befriend them.

Or find a kid who's pretending to be all religious and all but is really a huge stoner or some such and hang out with them.

Just be yourself. That'll piss em off.

Listen to Cattle Decapitation, smoke chronic and be anti-social.

Wait a minute... :eek:

I'm not even surrounded by fundies.

Nothing. Let them deal with me.

If I hated them I would just start slipping porn into the students' backpacks to convert them so I would have a much more pleasant time.:p

Isn't that kind of a contradiction? I mean, Buddhism seems like one of the few religions that can't have a real fundamentalist element especially with that whole "encouraging rational thought" thing.

It exists. My grandfather, for one. :( Not that it makes much sense, but it exists.

I’m an atheist teenager who does happen to live in a fundie town. I deal with it just fine. It isn’t a problem, at all. It’s been very good for my ego to be around so many people who are just so irrational, and a lot of them are very nice people who I get along with just swimmingly.
I’m somewhat of a weird guy anyway, so not being religious just goes along with everything.
Also, I spend the majority of my time with other people who, though mostly not irreligious, are at least not fundies.

... do these fundies have hot offspring?

Been there, though not a boarding school. I went to high school in a small South Carolina town that was (in)famous for being the home of Jim and Tammy Fae Baker. I was not popular except in our own little clique of out-of-staters. Had lots of fun.

Okay, I moved to a new town and I'm a teenager. I also happen to be a free-thinking individual in a town full of those who subscribe to off-the-shelf belief systems. How do I deal with it?
Keep up with my studies, cultivate solitary hobbies, spend untold hours at the local library, and expand my consciousness in private - 'til I'm of the proper legal age to move out of my parent's house and this hick backwater hamlet they've abducted me to. I wouldn't expect anything but grief over any overt or gratuitous displays of dissimilarity - keeping a low profile would be my strategy.

I would argue with them, constantly. I wouldn't be able to do otherwise; I can't restrain myself.

In so doing, I would anger them so much that there would probably be highly unfortunate consequences.

Amen!

14 year-old girl in a fundie Catholic school...:p

I'm thinking along the lines of Harris and Klebold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_Massacre), and she has to enter the communal student shower and interrupt some :fluffle:. :cool:

Well, in 1984 Winston is tortured and brainwashed, and then he willingly joins the Party. In my story Janie is betrayed by her "friend" who turns out to be a fundie, gets into loads of trouble, and is sent to the principal's office, and the principal basically brainwashes her. She converts willingly in church. That was kind what I was going for.

I see. At least have the maltheist die a while after being established as truly brainwashed. That way the ending is symbolic (death of her:death of maltheism)

... you were a maltheist that got stuck TO a fundie??? :eek:

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.
Humor. I find it is both more effective at getting under their skin, and also more effective at helping me hang on to my sanity when surrounded by the extremely superstitious.

Mention that you haven't been baptized. They will go "OMG!! You haven't been baptized!!!!111one11eleven". While they get the ceremony going, write in oil of cinnamon on your forehead, "SATAN ROCKS" When the holy water goes on your forehead, it'll hurt, so scream in pain like you're being possessed by the Devil. The message (which was invisible) will show up on your head, and hopefully scare the shit out of the nearby fundies. :)

Not be prejudice like the rest of the people on NS and actually be freindly and get along.

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

Great story idea, because vilifying a group of people based on their moral beliefs and practices is very far detached from the actions of the "fundies" that you rally against.

14 year-old girl in a fundie Catholic school...:p

I'm thinking along the lines of Harris and Klebold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_Massacre), and she has to enter the communal student shower and interrupt some :fluffle:. :cool:

It;s a Protestant school.

And now that I've seen the link, HELL NO!

Great story idea, because vilifying a group of people based on their moral beliefs and practices is very far detached from the actions of the "fundies" that you rally against.

*sigh* That's not what I was doing. I was vilifying the actions of fundies. I do not have anything against the religious, just the fundies who are insane and don't know how to get their message across in a nicer way.

Try to understand their religion. If that fails, isolate yourself. using the internet.

Isn't that kind of a contradiction? I mean, Buddhism seems like one of the few religions that can't have a real fundamentalist element especially with that whole "encouraging rational thought" thing.
No, Buddhist fundamentalist communities exist in a number of places in Southeast Asia.

I would argue with them, constantly. I wouldn't be able to do otherwise; I can't restrain myself.

In so doing, I would anger them so much that there would probably be highly unfortunate consequences.

Me as well. Also pretending not to hear any sentence with God or bible in it.

Not be prejudice like the rest of the people on NS and actually be freindly and get along.

Wuss. :p

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

Darknovae, I cannot believe you would do this. You are a hateful atheistic satanist, and you shall be doomed to hell for mocking religious types. Only Jesus Christ can save you, child! REPENT!

Still wouldn't be as bad as someone having to live in a lefty dominated area and not be a diehard lefty too... *shivers*

*shrug*

Ignore them. Or if you so wish you can debate them and show them how silly religion is. When they finally retreat to the "only God knows" or "you must have faith" positions then you know that you have won. :)

Actively not believe in [whatever religion it is].

Is "going Columbine" an option?

Is "going Columbine" an option?

Well, religious fundies are often gun nuts so getting weapons would probably be a simple task...

They'd probably say that it was God's Will that your victims bit the big one, clearly they were too sinful to live. Obvious isn't it?

Is "going Columbine" an option?

MEh. I dunno. Though I don't reccomend it.

*sigh* That's not what I was doing. I was vilifying the actions of fundies. I do not have anything against the religious, just the fundies who are insane and don't know how to get their message across in a nicer way.

OK...so targeting just one group of religious people is somehow justified? It still fits the description of "vilifying a group of people for their beliefs and practices." Oh, that's right...fundies are bad. Fundies are evil. They are not human. And we are just so morally evolved that we're allowed to condemn them while they still holding the standard that they should be perfectly accepting of all people.

Speaking from the "been there, done that" department... well, let's just say that living a largely solitary existence will make it harder for the fundies to annoy, and you weren't going to have friends anyways.

That said, it's always fun to rile up the conservative fundies by arguing for liberal viewpoints in class discussions... ;)

Err, live my life exactly as I live now.

Or is this some crazy-ass town where the population’s religious laws control life?

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

Same I dealt with it in my childhood... isolate myself.

Err, live my life exactly as I live now.

Or is this some crazy-ass town where the population’s religious laws control life?

It's a crazy-ass town where the population's religious laws control life.

Okay, you moved to some new town and you're a teenager. You also happen to be an atheist/maltheist/agnostic in a town full of ________ fundies (pick a religion). How would you deal?

I'm makign this thread because I came up with my 14th story, about a girl named Janie who gets sent to a fundie boarding school.

The way I'm feeling today the operative words would be shotgun and WP buckshot. :mad: I'm getting very annoyed.

It's interesting to me that a lot of folks tend to assume that living with fundies will be oppressive in some way.

Somehow, I don't think I would be oppressed by living with Jain Buddhists, or the Amish. I certainly wasn't oppressed by living with my grandparents, both of whom are fundamentalist Christians. They're the most loving and generous people I've ever met, and they are loving and generous to everyone, not just their relatives or people whose lifestyles they agree with.

I think the bigger problem is not me being stuck with fundies, but the fundies being stuck with me. :D