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It seems almost too much of a coincidence that the day before the biggest game in the infamous Michigan - OSU rivalry, a Michigan legend would die.

Spending 6 years of my childhood in Ann Arbor, I became a Michigan fan. I even had the opportunity to meet the legend and get his autograph.

You will be missed Bo.:(

I bet Michigan will turn around tomorrow and kick some Buckeye ass in your memory. It will bring back great memories for Michigan fans such as Bo's first game in the rivalry when he defeated Woody Hayes and his undefeated Buckeye team.

RIP Bo. You're up there with Bob Ufer and Fielding H Yost in Wolverine Heaven

As long as sports news shuts the fuck up about Michigan-Ohio St. I'll be happy. I can't even turn on ESPN without hearing about it. I hope they tie, just to give the BCS a big middle finger.

https://www.ufer.org//sounds/Woody_Hayes_Poem.mp3

Bob Ufer, the former voice of the Michigan Wolverines read this great poem in 1969 when Bo in his 1st year crushed the undefeated and #1 ranked Buckeyes.

And the forum sighed its collective "meh."

If you have nothing useful to say, then don't post at all.

If you have nothing useful to say, then don't post at all.
Oh, I thought it was useful. It expressed the sentiment of the forum as I saw it. Don't like it, go report me to the mods for something.

Oh, I thought it was useful. It expressed the sentiment of the forum as I saw it. Don't like it, go report me to the mods for something.

Just leave the freaking thread troll. I know you just love trying to piss people off so get the hell out of my thread.

What are you getting so twisted about? Ask yourself--are you really upset at me, or are you upset that no one else seems to care that one of your sports idols passed on?

Just get out of this thread unless you have something to say about Bo, the "10 Year War" or anything else about the battle between the Maize and Blue and the Scarlet and Grey.

Just get out of this thread unless you have something to say about Bo, the "10 Year War" or anything else about the battle between the Maize and Blue and the Scarlet and Grey.

Why don't you just put me on ignore? Then you won't be trying to restrict my freedom to post where I wish and you won't get your drawers in a knot when I do so.

It's obviously a conspiracy. Ohio had him killed. *nod*

I suspect they planted a microwave oven under his chair.

As a born-and-raised Buckeye, I have learned to accept Ohio State as the Lord and Savior of all football, to hate all things maize and blue, and to accept Jim Tressel as the Messiah. Then I went to Ohio University and distanced myself from it, fortunately. I am not a blind Buckeye supporter, though I will be pulling for them this Saturday.

I have this to say - I am revising my prediction. Michigan by a touchdown. And he will be missed. As much as we are opposed to all that is maize and blue down here, it's impossible not to respect a man who did so much for that program. As a college football fan, I can say that those who call themselves college football fans but have no respect for Schembechler are deluded.

And damn if that wasn't the craziest timing.

It's obviously a conspiracy. Ohio had him killed. *nod*

I suspect they planted a microwave oven under his chair.

The funniest I heard was that he really died when he fainted on the 16th of October. They've just been using a robot for the TV appearances. They waited until today to announce it so Michigan would be motivated to go kick some Buckeye ass. I hope this game goes just like the 95 game or the 69 game (which started the 10 year war). In both years, Meeechigan defeated an undefeated and #1 ranked OSU team.

As a born-and-raised Buckeye, I have learned to accept Ohio State as the Lord and Savior of all football, to hate all things maize and blue, and to accept Jim Tressel as the Messiah. Then I went to Ohio University and distanced myself from it, fortunately. I am not a blind Buckeye supporter, though I will be pulling for them this Saturday.

I have this to say - I am revising my prediction. Michigan by a touchdown. And he will be missed. As much as we are opposed to all that is maize and blue down here, it's impossible not to respect a man who did so much for that program. As a college football fan, I can say that those who call themselves college football fans but have no respect for Schembechler are deluded.

And damn if that wasn't the craziest timing.
Even the Columbus based band "The Dead Schembechlers" has a note on their site saying he will be missed. They were planning a huge concert tonight. Talk about a sick name for a band.

Its always sad when someone so admired passes on.

Condolences to Michigan

(and Nazz, i can't speak for the whole forum, but it annoys the pants off of me when someone else speaks for me and what i do or do not care about. Who asked you?)

Meh. This is not a blog. I couldn't care less.

Its always sad when someone so admired passes on.

Condolences to Michigan

(and Nazz, i can't speak for the whole forum, but it annoys the pants off of me when someone else speaks for me and what i do or do not care about. Who asked you?)

I point to the lack of action on this thread for damn near an hour as evidence that the majority of the forum didn't care. If this turns into a 25 page long thread, I'll be corrected, won't I?

I point to the lack of action on this thread for damn near an hour as evidence that the majority of the forum didn't care. If this turns into a 25 page long thread, I'll be corrected, won't I?

You know, it is very immature to just post the crap you have in your thread. I'd expect someone who claims to be a great college professor to be above that sort of child play.

The funniest I heard was that he really died when he fainted on the 16th of October. They've just been using a robot for the TV appearances. They waited until today to announce it so Michigan would be motivated to go kick some Buckeye ass. I hope this game goes just like the 95 game or the 69 game (which started the 10 year war). In both years, Meeechigan defeated an undefeated and #1 ranked OSU team.

I agree with LG's 'Conspiracy Theory', except it's Michigan who's started it.
And I think IDF's right about the whole 'Weekend at Bo's' scenario.

This is obviously a communist plot to get into the Buckeye's heads. Won't matter though; O! H! I! O!

Buckeyes still win by more than a touchdown. And if they don't...well, I'll already be three sheets to the wind, so it won't take much more to kill the pain...

Regardless, I still think (unless it's a blowout for either team) that this game will be replayed on 8 January. Best two teams in the nation, they deserve to compete for the National Championship.

I agree with LG's 'Conspiracy Theory', except it's Michigan who's started it.
And I think IDF's right about the whole 'Weekend at Bo's' scenario.

This is obviously a communist plot to get into the Buckeye's heads. Won't matter though; O! H! I! O!

Buckeyes still win by more than a touchdown. And if they don't...well, I'll already be three sheets to the wind, so it won't take much more to kill the pain...

Regardless, I still think (unless it's a blowout for either team) that this game will be replayed on 8 January. Best two teams in the nation, they deserve to compete for the National Championship.
Funny note on the O-H-I-O thing. I went to the 2002 game (yes I know OSU kicked ass and won the National Title that year). I was in the Meeechigan/visitors section and we were in the area when the I's got around. We gave the OSU student section the bird.

Immature? Probably, but who cares? OSU fans have given me the bird at games I attended at the Big House.

I really do hope they play again in January.

I really do hope they play again in January.
I disagree. If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be playing for the national championship.

Is that enough on topic for you?

Immature? Probably, but who cares? OSU fans have given me the bird at games I attended at the Big House.

Nothing wrong with that...Hell, it's half the fun...:)

One of my best friends is a Michigan fan...whoever wins gets bragging rights for a whole year...can't wait to hold this over his head :p

Funny note on the O-H-I-O thing. I went to the 2002 game (yes I know OSU kicked ass and won the National Title that year). I was in the Meeechigan/visitors section and we were in the area when the I's got around. We gave the OSU student section the bird.

Immature? Probably, but who cares? OSU fans have given me the bird at games I attended at the Big House.

I really do hope they play again in January.

Easy, dude. I know OSU fans can be pompous, self-righteous, we're-better-than-you, set-your-car-on-fire, pretentious assholes, and they had no right to issue middle fingers in that regard, but leave the band out of it. I am partially biased because my brother's in the Purdue marching band, but there are plenty of other OSU fans who are more deserving of the middle finger. Like half of them.

And yes, they're a bunch of swaggering jackasses with fans who aren't happy with perfection, but they're my hometown's swaggering jackasses and my hometown's fans who aren't happy with perfection. We actually called for Jim Tressel's head here before he even coached a game. We criticized the team openly for their performance in the season opener - an easy victory. Ohio State's fans, or the miserable part of them, don't deserve a national championship. Just once, OSU should go 0-12.

Not that it will matter. When Michigan stabs the stake through Buckeye country's hearts this Saturday, it will be deserved, at least to those miserable fucks who are incapable of being happy.

I disagree. If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be playing for the national championship.

Is that enough on topic for you?

Absolutely correct.

Go Bucks!

I disagree. If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be playing for the national championship.

Is that enough on topic for you?

Well, for better or for worse, conference championships don't necessarily matter. Although they can help with the charlie-foxtrot known as the BCS, which is what matters.

There should be a playoff. I don't think that the bowl committees would go for it, though, unless they could be guaranteed more money.

Easy, dude. I know OSU fans can be pompous, self-righteous, we're-better-than-you, set-your-car-on-fire, pretentious assholes, and they had no right to issue middle fingers in that regard, but leave the band out of it.

The OSU fans actually booed the Michigan band. I love that band. "Hail to the Victors" is the best college fight song.

Oh yeah, I did see the riot in 2002 when 50 cars got torched. The uprights were greased so the OSU fans had trouble climbing them and tearing them down.

Nothing wrong with that...Hell, it's half the fun...:)

One of my best friends is a Michigan fan...whoever wins gets bragging rights for a whole year...can't wait to hold this over his head :p

You should do what my mom and grandpa did when my mom was in college. My grandpa is a dyed-in-the-wool Buckeye fan, and my mom went to USC out on the west coast. This was when OSU and USC played in the Rose Bowl frequently. The rule was this - if USC won, my grandpa put a USC bumper sticker on his car for a year. If OSU won, my mom put an OSU bumper sticker on her car for a year.

Of course, do you really want to risk having a Michigan bumper sticker on your car in Ohio? You're likely to be shot.

Of course, do you really want to risk having a Michigan bumper sticker on your car in Ohio? You're likely to be shot.

Especially in a shit hole like Cleveland.


Oh, did I really say that? Freudian slip:p

The OSU fans actually booed the Michigan band. I love that band. "Hail to the Victors" is the best college fight song.

Oh yeah, I did see the riot in 2002 when 50 cars got torched. The uprights were greased so the OSU fans had trouble climbing them and tearing them down.

See what I mean? Half of all OSU fans are assholes. And by assholes, I mean the ones who write letters to the editor right after a big win lambasting the team's performance. I mean the ones who tip over cars and burn couches. I mean the ones who threaten the safety of out-of-town visitors (last year, we got a LOT of complaints from people coming up to watch the Texas game.)

Also, "Hail Purdue" > "The Victors", just as "Hail Purdue" > "Across the Field." All three > Notre Dame's fight song.

Absolutely correct.

Go Bucks!

I could care less who wins this weekend. I do, however, really believe that, and not just because the Arkansas Razorbacks have an outside chance, if they win out, to be in the Championship game. USC would have to lose again, as that's who beat the Hawgs in the season opener.

Especially in a shit hole like Cleveland.


Oh, did I really say that? Freudian slip:p

Don't look at me; I live in Columbus. Besides, I've concluded that all the buildings in Cincinnati are leaning toward the Ohio River because they're trying to escape into Kentucky.

Don't look at me; I live in Columbus. Besides, I've concluded that all the buildings in Cincinnati are leaning toward the Ohio River because they're trying to escape into Kentucky.

LOL Cinci isn't much better than the Mistake by the Lake. I wonder if the Bungals are trying to escape into Kentucky LOL.

I could care less who wins this weekend. I do, however, really believe that, and not just because the Arkansas Razorbacks have an outside chance, if they win out, to be in the Championship game. USC would have to lose again, as that's who beat the Hawgs in the season opener.

Aside from the OSU-Michigan winner, I am really pulling for Rutgers to make the title game just because that would be cool. It's an outside shot and a couple of teams probably have to lose (Arkansas is among them) but Rutgers was the butt of jokes for so many years in college football. Imagine them in the title game.

LOL Cinci isn't much better than the Mistake by the Lake. I wonder if the Bungals are trying to escape into Kentucky LOL.

Hey, the Bengals made the playoffs. We're stuck poking fun at the Cleveland Clowns for now.

Aside from the OSU-Michigan winner, I am really pulling for Rutgers to make the title game just because that would be cool. It's an outside shot and a couple of teams probably have to lose (Arkansas is among them) but Rutgers was the butt of jokes for so many years in college football. Imagine them in the title game.
For Rutgers to make it, I think they'll have to run the table, and everyone with one loss will have to lose again. I just don't see it any other way.

For Rutgers to make it, I think they'll have to run the table, and everyone with one loss will have to lose again. I just don't see it any other way.

About a week ago, I posted this, from ESPN.com. It (more or less) said what had to happen for the State University of New Jersey to make the championship game...some of it has happened, some of it hasn't....

This is what needs to happen -- either all of this, or at least most of it:


Northwestern beats Ohio State; Indiana bests Michigan; South Florida and UConn dispatch Louisville; Florida State makes Florida pay for its recent hard times, with South Carolina and/or Western Carolina doing the same; Kansas State and Texas A&M put away the Longhorns; Georgia and Alabama make short work of Auburn; Oregon and, if it would like to chip in, UCLA wipe out USC; Arizona and Stanford muscle out Cal; Air Force and Army blitzkrieg Notre Dame; Cincinnati and Pitt humble West Virginia; Tennessee and Mississippi State handle Arkansas; and, finally, Alabama and Ole Miss run roughshod over LSU.


This is not a suggestion that anybody should lie down in order to fulfill Rutgers' destiny. On the contrary, it's asking 20 or so schools to rise above what will mostly be underdog berths and clear the decks so Rutgers can be in a position to fulfill its own destiny on January 8th.


Isn't that the least they can do?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...e=baker/061109

I could care less who wins this weekend. I do, however, really believe that, and not just because the Arkansas Razorbacks have an outside chance, if they win out, to be in the Championship game. USC would have to lose again, as that's who beat the Hawgs in the season opener.

If this were to be settled by a Division I tournament, I would think that only conference champs would be seeded. The idea that the BCS monstrosity would allow a conference runner-up to play in a championship game is silly.

If this were to be settled by a Division I tournament, I would think that only conference champs would be seeded. The idea that the BCS monstrosity would allow a conference runner-up to play in a championship game is silly.
And yet it has happened more than once. An abomination, I say.

If this were to be settled by a Division I tournament, I would think that only conference champs would be seeded. The idea that the BCS monstrosity would allow a conference runner-up to play in a championship game is silly.

Already happened for Oklahoma. That was a disgrace. USC got hosed.

For Rutgers to make it, I think they'll have to run the table, and everyone with one loss will have to lose again. I just don't see it any other way.

Well, let's look at that.

The ACC has only one one-loss team, and it's fucking Wake Forest. And unbeaten Rutgers is better than a one-loss Wake Forest.

The Big 12 is out of one-loss teams. Even Texas has two losses.

Conference USA, the MAC, and the Mountain West? Don't make me laugh. BYU has two losses. Everyone else in those theee conferences has at least three, including my beloved Ohio Bobcats.

USC has to survive Cal, UCLA, and Notre Dame. That's tough for a team that couldn't beat Oregon State.

Out of the Sun Belt and the WAC, Boise State is still around, but the WAC couldn't possibly produce a BCS title game contender.

That leaves the SEC. So simply put, USC, Florida, Arkansas, and Notre Dame all have to lose one more time. USC and Notre Dame play each other. So do Florida and Arkansas. If the winners of those games lose one more time (i.e. USC beats Notre Dame but loses to Cal, and then Arkansas beats Florida but loses to, say, LSU) then Rutgers is a shoo-in. If any of those teams makes it with just one loss, it becomes tough.

That's all assuming Rutgers beats West Virginia. If West Virginia wins that game, Florida and Arkansas are likely playing for the right to go to the national championship.

If this were to be settled by a Division I tournament, I would think that only conference champs would be seeded. The idea that the BCS monstrosity would allow a conference runner-up to play in a championship game is silly.

Well, one of the problems that you have, is that 'Conference Championships' aren't consistent. For example, the Big Ten doesn't have a tournament, while other conferences do.

Already happened for Oklahoma. That was a disgrace. USC got hosed.

Just two years after Oregon got hosed in favor of Nebraska, who got slaughtered by unbeaten Miami.

Already happened for Oklahoma. That was a disgrace. USC got hosed.

It is an awful system. I don't see why it is perpetuated.

And back on topic, I really miss the games between Woody and Bo.

Well, one of the problems that you have, is that 'Conference Championships' aren't consistent. For example, the Big Ten doesn't have a tournament, while other conferences do.

I don't know why that's a problem. The teams can compare conference records and it's pretty easy to figure out who the winner is.

It is an awful system. I don't see why it is perpetuated.

And back on topic, I really miss the games between Woody and Bo.

ESPN classic will likely be running the games from the infamous "Ten Year War."

Contrary to what most would believe, they were good friends. Woody was Bo's mentor. They're watching the game together up there tomorrow.

ESPN classic will likely be running the games from the infamous "Ten Year War."

Contrary to what most would believe, they were good friends. Woody was Bo's mentor. They're watching the game together up there tomorrow.

Woody was a good guy, despite the public image that was projected during his last year of coaching. I took a couple military history classes because I wanted to be able to say I had met him. More than just seeing him walking across the Oval, that is.

Woody was a good guy, despite the public image that was projected during his last year of coaching. I took a couple military history classes because I wanted to be able to say I had met him. More than just seeing him walking across the Oval, that is.

It would be neat to meet Woody. I am proud to say I've had the honor of meeting Bo. He was such a great man. He just loved talking football to anyone he came across in Ann Arbor.

It would be neat to meet Woody. I am proud to say I've had the honor of meeting Bo. He was such a great man. He just loved talking football to anyone he came across in Ann Arbor.

They both came from an age where football was still a game. A very serious game, to be sure, but it wasn't the big business that it is now. I'm sure each of them cared far more about their players than just to know how well they would play on Saturday.

After Woody had been fired from coaching, he was teaching history. I walked into class one day and I was the only one in the room for a few minutes. Coach Hayes actually knew who I was, what I had turned in recently and what I needed to do to improve my work in that class.

Bo definitely was known for caring for his players. If someone on the reserve squad needed something, he was there for them.

Bo still kept an office in Schembechler Hall (which was obviously named for him). He hasn't coached in 17 years, but he had office hours and met with players every day. He even spoke to the team to give them a motivating speech just yesterday and spoked at a press conference on Monday.

Bo is one of the last of a great era of coaches that included Woody and Bear Bryant. The last of that generation is Bill Mallory (he really got screwed by the Athletic Department at IU).

Bo definitely was known for caring for his players. If someone on the reserve squad needed something, he was there for them.

Bo still kept an office in Schembechler Hall (which was obviously named for him). He hasn't coached in 17 years, but he had office hours and met with players every day. He even spoke to the team to give them a motivating speech just yesterday and spoked at a press conference on Monday.

Bo is one of the last of a great era of coaches that included Woody and Bear Bryant. The last of that generation is Bill Mallory (he really got screwed by the Athletic Department at IU).
Joe Paterno is still running, well hopping anyway, around. He might be a little on the young side to be listed in the same generation as Bo and Woody.

Joe Paterno is still running, well hopping anyway, around. He might be a little on the young side to be listed in the same generation as Bo and Woody.

How could I have forgotten Joe Pa?

I saw him last month when he whipped our asses at Purdue.