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Dzanisimo
17-11-2006, 12:57
I just heard in news from radio that "German scientists have proven existance of God with 72% probability".

Anybody has any idea of news link where would be more information.

/Maybe that will settle these religion discussions forever?!
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 12:58
If I had money I'd bet that these German scientists did no such thing.
Philosopy
17-11-2006, 13:04
What kind of radio station was it?
Dzanisimo
17-11-2006, 13:17
What kind of radio station was it?

Mmm, how do you divide them? It is popular local radio station that plays music, advertisements and regular news.
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 13:19
Mmm, how do you divide them? It is popular local radio station that plays music, advertisements and regular news.

Have they ever mentioned a martian invasion and people getting fried by beams of pure energy?
Philosopy
17-11-2006, 13:19
Mmm, how do you divide them? It is popular local radio station that plays music, advertisements and regular news.

It wasn't a Christian radio station?

I've not seen this anywhere else. It sounds like the kind of 'study' that fringe groups are always throwing out.
Dzanisimo
17-11-2006, 13:26
Have they ever mentioned a martian invasion and people getting fried by beams of pure energy?

No. They are the most serious radio station after government radio. And that weas short news about some German journalists or scientists that has proven the existance of God with some relative probability. I am just curious if you guys have seen anything related.
Dzanisimo
17-11-2006, 13:26
It wasn't a Christian radio station?

I've not seen this anywhere else. It sounds like the kind of 'study' that fringe groups are always throwing out.

Nope, I ain't listening to these.
Peepelonia
17-11-2006, 13:49
Yeah I read the same in the paper this morning, only the figure was 68% They did say they have published in some jurnal or other so I guess you should google it.

I understand it was via a process of some form of probabilty maths.
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 13:52
Yeah I read the same in the paper this morning, only the figure was 68% They did say they have published in some jurnal or other so I guess you should google it.

I understand it was via a process of some form of probabilty maths.

Well if it's probability maths then they haven't proven God's existence, they've examined the probability of God's exitence.
Dzanisimo
17-11-2006, 13:53
Well if it's probability maths then they haven't proven God's existence, they've examined the probability of God's exitence.

Yeah, that was what I tried to say. Sorry my english
Peepelonia
17-11-2006, 14:00
Well if it's probability maths then they haven't proven God's existence, they've examined the probability of God's exitence.

Yep that's correct, I'll paraprhase the article for you:

Boffins have calculated there is a 62% chance that God exists. They used mathematical probability formulas to anallyse the evidance for and agaisnt across 5 areas, creation, evolution, good and evil, and religious experiance.

The German reaserchers then worked ou the answers to questions such as' How probable is it that the evolution of life took place without God' and 'How probable is it that God created the universe'

They have published their result in science mag PM.
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 14:01
Yeah, that was what I tried to say. Sorry my english

No problem. :)
Teh_pantless_hero
17-11-2006, 14:05
Studies show German scientists are idiots at a 72% probability.

German journalists or scientists
There is a significant difference between journalists and scientists..
Rejistania
17-11-2006, 14:22
bah! once again time to feel ashamed of my country :(
Peepelonia
17-11-2006, 14:27
bah! once again time to feel ashamed of my country :(

Umm why? Coz a bunch of mathematicians conclude that there is a 62% probability that God exists. So I see nowt to be ashammed of?
Darniane
17-11-2006, 14:34
A priori analysis of the chance of something occuring is a bad way of doing things.
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 14:35
A priori analysis of the chance of something occuring is a bad way of doing things.

Existing, not occuring.
Hamilay
17-11-2006, 14:38
:) (http://www.megat.co.uk/wrong/wrong.php?r=sw36&n=the+scientists&c=%23FF0000&t=God)
Peepelonia
17-11-2006, 14:39
A priori analysis of the chance of something occuring is a bad way of doing things.

Why? Do we not use this very meothoed in all science. Is not your belife that the sun will rise tomorrow based on the fact that it has done so for the whole of your life so the chance of it occurng again tomorrow is very high?

Of course it is.
Laerod
17-11-2006, 15:08
I just heard in news from radio that "German scientists have proven existance of God with 72% probability".

Anybody has any idea of news link where would be more information.

/Maybe that will settle these religion discussions forever?!There's no mention of it on any reputable German news source website. Not even the unreputable ones. What radio program were you listening to?
(and btw, something proven with 72% probability is hardly proven, according to the requirements in science. 90 or 95% is more conclusive).
Cullons
17-11-2006, 15:11
"German scientists have proven existance of God with 72% probability"

That's incredible. Would love to know what empirical evidence they have. And what tests they ran
Rejistania
17-11-2006, 15:34
Umm why? Coz a bunch of mathematicians conclude that there is a 62% probability that God exists. So I see nowt to be ashammed of?
Because these people do religion instead of science and call themselves mathematicians!
Hamilay
17-11-2006, 15:37
"German scientists have proven existance of God with 72% probability"

That's incredible. Would love to know what empirical evidence they have. And what tests they ran
I suspect it would be along the lines of "The universe is too hard for us to understand, so of course rather than for actually looking for a scientific explanation like scientists are supposed to do we'll just say that a magical supernatural force created it. We're bitter and jaded about the failure of our work to explain the universe's origins, so God probably exists (Fixed. Fine. Be that way. :p). Let's go to the pub."
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 15:42
I suspect it would be along the lines of "The universe is too hard for us to understand, so of course rather than for actually looking for a scientific explanation like scientists are supposed to do we'll just say that a magical supernatural force created it. We're bitter and jaded about the failure of our work to explain the universe's origins, so God exists. Let's go to the pub."

They didn't say God exists. They said there's a 72% chance that God exists.
Underdownia
17-11-2006, 15:43
What a weird claim to make. Impossible to make such a deduction. Whatever factors they included in their calculation others would think some were invalid or that some valid ones were not included. Yet another example of money being wasted on stupid research projects IMHO.

Maths cannot solve such a problem. If you believe in God, there's a 100% chance he exists, if you don't a 0% and if you're agnostic....:confused: ...ok, i lose!:p. My point is, its a qualitative, not quantitative question.
PootWaddle
17-11-2006, 16:04
I remember a couple of years ago a PhD odds maker in Vegas, or something like that, rated it as a 67% chance of God existing, a quick search found this.

http://home.comcast.net/~neardeath/religion/001_pages/10.html