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Name One Band That Was Far Before Their Time!

Hallucinogenic Tonic
17-11-2006, 04:56
I don't even have to think about this one; that's why I started the thread!!!

Faith No More
Infinite Revolution
17-11-2006, 04:57
kraftwerk
Bodies Without Organs
17-11-2006, 05:25
Stooges
Kyronea
17-11-2006, 05:37
Queen.

...don't give me that look. I'm serious. They all died before I was born so I never got to see them live. That's just not fair.
Curious Inquiry
17-11-2006, 06:22
Professor Longhair.
Soviet Haaregrad
17-11-2006, 07:19
NoMeansNo
Callisdrun
17-11-2006, 07:27
Bathory

Um... Black Sabbath. Most bands that could be considered the first of a new genre could also be considered before their time.
Delator
17-11-2006, 07:29
I'll say Nine Inch Nails.

(Though technically not a "band"...)
Divided Labor
17-11-2006, 08:38
The Rentals sound better than the genre they influenced: emo. But that just leads me to wonder.
Does the question depend on the time being defined by a certain sound? Because if the sound of the current time is emo.. that's not even possible to argue nor is it desirable to arrive at that conclusion.
But The Rentals were around in the mid/early-90s and I guess their time is now?

Every artist at has a particular fan base at any given time. There's never a before or after time unless in terms of marketability.
Farmina
17-11-2006, 08:46
Queen.

...don't give me that look. I'm serious. They all died before I was born so I never got to see them live. That's just not fair.

Only Freddie Mercury is dead. The rest are alive and well. Alive, well, performing and recording might I add.

EDIT: Deakin did not reform with the group when they got a new singer.
MrMopar
17-11-2006, 08:47
Velvet Underground.
Mondoth
17-11-2006, 08:55
Jethro Tull

The time when the Flute is an acceptable Rock instrument is coming!
Boonytopia
17-11-2006, 09:05
Velvet Underground.

You stole my thoughts, that's what I was going to say.

*searches*

Where's my tinfoil hat? Anybody?
Fachistos
17-11-2006, 09:18
The Rentals sound better than the genre they influenced: emo. But that just leads me to wonder.
Does the question depend on the time being defined by a certain sound? Because if the sound of the current time is emo.. that's not even possible to argue nor is it desirable to arrive at that conclusion.
But The Rentals were around in the mid/early-90s and I guess their time is now?

Every artist at has a particular fan base at any given time. There's never a before or after time unless in terms of marketability.

The Rentals?! Certainly not the first band I come to think of in these circumstances...did yóu know that they'll be releasing a new record, eventuall?

My answer would be...um, Motörhead, Faith No More and Velvet Underground have all been influential. Guided by Voices comes to mind as well.
Fachistos
17-11-2006, 09:21
Jethro Tull

The time when the Flute is an acceptable Rock instrument is coming!

Sure, check out http://www.vonhertzenbrothers.com/
Soviet Haaregrad
17-11-2006, 09:37
I'll say Nine Inch Nails.

(Though technically not a "band"...)

Industrial was already well treaded by the time Trent started recording.
Kanabia
17-11-2006, 11:40
Stooges

They're my choice as well.

NoMeansNo

Ooh. I've been hunting for their albums, but they don't seem to turn up anywhere. :(
New Domici
17-11-2006, 13:01
Bathory

Um... Black Sabbath. Most bands that could be considered the first of a new genre could also be considered before their time.

I thought that distiction went to Lead Zepplin?
New Domici
17-11-2006, 13:02
Industrial was already well treaded by the time Trent started recording.

But he was the first to say "Americans aren't so dumb that they'll fail to appreciate this." That was revolutionary thinking. :)
The Potato Factory
17-11-2006, 13:08
Elvis.
Cullons
17-11-2006, 13:11
Queen.

...don't give me that look. I'm serious. They all died before I was born so I never got to see them live. That's just not fair.

very true. impressive band
you know that Queens (sans freddy) still perform.
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 13:18
Mozart.
Dododecapod
17-11-2006, 13:20
Mozart.

True, but not a Band.

Bob Segar and the Siver Bullet Band. They were doing stuff as good as Hollywood Nights long before anybody noticed them.
Ifreann
17-11-2006, 13:22
True, but not a Band.

Bob Segar and the Siver Bullet Band. They were doing stuff as good as Hollywood Nights long before anybody noticed them.

Mozart And His Not At All Famous Band That Nobody But Me Has Ever Heard Of then
LiberationFrequency
17-11-2006, 13:26
The Melvins
Delator
17-11-2006, 13:41
Industrial was already well treaded by the time Trent started recording.

True...but he pioneered the Emo attitude before anyone else even knew what the fuck to think of the concept. :p
Peepelonia
17-11-2006, 13:46
Umm I'm gonna have to say Manowar!
Sdaeriji
17-11-2006, 13:49
MC5

Fuck you Jolt, it's supposed to be a capital C.
Dzanisimo
17-11-2006, 13:55
Queen.

...don't give me that look. I'm serious. They all died before I was born so I never got to see them live. That's just not fair.

My thoughts (and situation) exactly.

Queen. Why oh why they don't play today?!:(
Dumbfounded Dipchips
17-11-2006, 13:56
The Refreshments
Johnny B Goode
17-11-2006, 22:50
Jethro Tull

The time when the Flute is an acceptable Rock instrument is coming!

(Sings)

Into the shuffling madness
Of locmotive breath
Runs the all-time loser
Headlong to his death

He hears the pistons scraping
Steam breaking on his brow
Old Charlie stole the handle
And the train, it won't slow down!

No it won't slow down
No it won't slow down

Yeah. Good song
The Sex Pistols 1977
17-11-2006, 22:59
t.s.o.l. - their 1981 cd Dance with me - (before they sold their band name). This cd doesn't sound like any other punk from its time period, but seems more like something that could have been produced today. Excellent cd.
Curious Inquiry
17-11-2006, 23:04
t.s.o.l. - their 1981 cd Dance with me - (before they sold their band name). This cd doesn't sound like any other punk from its time period, but seems more like something that could have been produced today. Excellent cd.

Man, I have not heard them in forever! Time to hit the special order section at Twist and Shout . . .
Curious Inquiry
17-11-2006, 23:06
Jethro Tull

The time when the Flute is an acceptable Rock instrument is coming!

Remember the Dutch prog rock band, Focus?
Hey, there's another band for this list . . .
Jello Biafra
17-11-2006, 23:08
Big Star.

Ooh. I've been hunting for their albums, but they don't seem to turn up anywhere. :(They're out of print. They signed to a new label, and so Alternative Tentacles is/was getting rid of the ones that they had.
Drunk commies deleted
17-11-2006, 23:16
Elvis.

Elvis was the vanilla ice of his day. I prefer Jerry Lee Lewis. He was the Eminem of his day.

As for which band was ahead of it's time, I just don't know.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-11-2006, 00:11
Elvis was the vanilla ice of his day.
Oh, did he sing about the ninja turtles too?
Yootopia
18-11-2006, 00:18
Portishead.
Drunk commies deleted
18-11-2006, 00:18
Oh, did he sing about the ninja turtles too?

He took black music and made it corny pop garbage. I don't like Elvis.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
18-11-2006, 00:26
He took black music and made it corny pop garbage. I don't like Elvis.
No need to get irate, I was just taking a moment to remind my peers of how painfully stupid their childhood's were.
Vegan Nuts
18-11-2006, 00:28
bauhaus.
Drunk commies deleted
18-11-2006, 00:30
No need to get irate, I was just taking a moment to remind my peers of how painfully stupid their childhood's were.

I'm not irate. Just don't like Elvis. My childhood wasn't painfully stupid either. Ok, it was, but it was the eighties. Painfully stupid was cool back then.
Refused-Party-Program
18-11-2006, 00:30
Far - ripped off by every post-hardcore band that dared pick up instruments to play mediocre dirges whilst wailing about the superficial in a nonsensical manner in order to give the air of cryptic intellectualism.

Jawbreaker - ditto.
Demented Hamsters
18-11-2006, 03:04
Butthole Surfers.

Even now, still before their time. But one day the World will wake up and realise just what a talented bunch of misfits they really were/are.
And then the Butthole Surfers religious experience will sweep the world, destroying all other religions before it and finally forming us all into one people.
We will sing, 'Sweatloaf' in church!
Demented Hamsters
18-11-2006, 03:07
Elvis was the vanilla ice of his day. I prefer Jerry Lee Lewis. He was the Eminem of his day.
Does this mean Eminem's going to marry his 13 yr old cousin?

Three more:
The Stooges
Frank Zappa
Miles Davis
Norgopia
18-11-2006, 03:18
No question.
The Jimi Hendrix Experience.
Potarius
18-11-2006, 03:26
Public Image Limited totally shatter your concepts of "Avant Garde".


Death Disco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW0mLIciFn4


Poptones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57zgo0jCBA


Careering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9O2tsIbKD0&mode=related&search=



No more words are necessary.
Interesting Specimens
18-11-2006, 03:31
Sparks

Seriously, they couldn't play their most popular song live because the effects were too advanced for the machines that could stand up to live atmosphere.

It doesn't get much further ahead than that.
Callisdrun
18-11-2006, 03:34
I thought that distiction went to Lead Zepplin?

There is some debate, but within the metal scene, most seem to be of the opinion that Black Sabbath was more influential to the genre, specifically.
Norgopia
18-11-2006, 03:36
Yeah, man.

"War Pigs" is, in my opinion, the first real heavy metal song.

And a masterpiece at that.
Interesting Specimens
18-11-2006, 03:36
There is some debate, but within the metal scene, most seem to be of the opinion that Black Sabbath was more influential to the genre, specifically.

Led Zep were sort of a link band between prog and metal IMO. They influenced both but they weren't as big in prog as Genesis or metal as Black Sabbath.
The Nazz
18-11-2006, 03:44
I'm gonna go with Devo.
Fleckenstein
18-11-2006, 03:49
MC5

:cool:

My God, I just picked up their best of cd after hearing 30 secs on some top 100 rock bands or whatever. It's like you hear them, think one thing about their style, then realize they started in '68. Their style seems so much later than what they really were.

"Kick out the jams, motherfuckers!" :D

"The folks keep complaining they find it so shockin' / All the kids wanna do is just keep on rockin' / They ain't got no time to think about stoppin' / They gotta get down and do a little stompin' "

No question.
The Jimi Hendrix Experience.

Well duh. Although whenever He died I would call it before his time, cause his music is the best stuff I have ever heard. :fluffle:

(and yes I just fluffled Jimi Hendrix)
Wiztopia
18-11-2006, 04:15
Does Einherjer count?
Bodies Without Organs
18-11-2006, 04:56
Jawbreaker - ditto.

They still must be hunted down individually and destroyed for following up Bivouac and 24 Hour Revenge Therapy with that vacuous piece of crap Dear You.

Oh yeah, and their art suffered when he had that throat op. It may have given us Ashtray Monument, but it stole a Frankie Stubbs-soundalike from the world.

Long time ago, way back in another life, one of my bands supported Jawbreaker.


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Punk bands before their time? Amebix.
Callisdrun
18-11-2006, 05:35
Led Zep were sort of a link band between prog and metal IMO. They influenced both but they weren't as big in prog as Genesis or metal as Black Sabbath.

Yeah, I agree. I'm going a lot by what metal bands cite as an influence. Both are great bands, but Sabbath's name comes up a lot more often than Zep's.
Callisdrun
18-11-2006, 05:37
Yeah, man.

"War Pigs" is, in my opinion, the first real heavy metal song.

And a masterpiece at that.

I would actually say the song "Black Sabbath" itself (doom metal much?), but War Pigs is truly awesome. I just wish the sound on that album was better.
Bodies Without Organs
18-11-2006, 05:46
I would actually say the song "Black Sabbath" itself (doom metal much?), but War Pigs is truly awesome. I just wish the sound on that album was better.

CD version or vinyl version? I've held forth at tedious length about this before - the remastered CD version is just far too clean and sparkly and thin, and robs the original of all its woody, dark depth.

Whereas the hi-hats on the cd go 'schick-schick-schick...' on the vinyl they go 'chuk-chuk-chuk...' (Da-naa Daa-daa-daaah-dah Da-naa).
Potarius
18-11-2006, 23:01
CD version or vinyl version? I've held forth at tedious length about this before - the remastered CD version is just far too clean and sparkly and thin, and robs the original of all its woody, dark depth.

Whereas the hi-hats on the cd go 'schick-schick-schick...' on the vinyl they go 'chuk-chuk-chuk...' (Da-naa Daa-daa-daaah-dah Da-naa).

I've found that it's like that on most digital remasters, unless the person who's engineering the remastering process is truly in touch with his or her work.

The Rush remasters, done by Alex Lifeson himself, are excellent. They preserve most of the sound of the original vinyl, though being CDs, they still sound "closed"... Think of putting your speakers in a very thin cardboard box with air holes punched in it every centimetre or so.
Shlarg
18-11-2006, 23:59
King Crimson (Court of the Crimson King)
The Mindset
19-11-2006, 00:06
Queen.

...don't give me that look. I'm serious. They all died before I was born so I never got to see them live. That's just not fair.

Huh? Brian May and Roger Meddows-Taylor are both very much alive.
Skibereen
19-11-2006, 00:26
Stooges

Stooges are fecking awesome.

I myself go with Jimi Hendrix...though technically not a band.
Harlesburg
19-11-2006, 04:48
I don't even have to think about this one; that's why I started the thread!!!

Faith No More
I agree 100%
The TransPecos
19-11-2006, 06:05
Every band mentioned just follows from...

The one and only band to start Rock and Roll as we now know was...

Buddy Holly and the Crickets

Along with Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, the Big Bopper, Richie Valens, and a few others, they broke the cultural barriers. But they were the band that did it...

(Anyone else out there watch American Bandstand every afternoon?)
The Nazz
19-11-2006, 06:36
Every band mentioned just follows from...

The one and only band to start Rock and Roll as we now know was...

Buddy Holly and the Crickets

Along with Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, the Big Bopper, Richie Valens, and a few others, they broke the cultural barriers. But they were the band that did it...

(Anyone else out there watch American Bandstand every afternoon?)

Not old enough, but I'll predate you and say Louis Jordan had as much to do with it as any of the people you named. Listen to "They Raided the House" or "Caldonia" and tell me that isn't rock and roll.
Kanabia
19-11-2006, 06:56
I would actually say the song "Black Sabbath" itself (doom metal much?)
I agree with that (and not only because it's my favourite Sabbath song. ;))
Kanabia
19-11-2006, 06:59
They're out of print. They signed to a new label, and so Alternative Tentacles is/was getting rid of the ones that they had.

I expected as much, but I can't find them in second-hand stores either. I guess i'll have to download them in the meantime.
Jello Biafra
19-11-2006, 13:13
Not old enough, but I'll predate you and say Louis Jordan had as much to do with it as any of the people you named. Listen to "They Raided the House" or "Caldonia" and tell me that isn't rock and roll.Ze also neglected Bill Haley.
Jambomon
19-11-2006, 13:15
The Blue Man Group.
Jambomon
19-11-2006, 13:18
oh, and Madonna.


even though she isn't a band etc, she did create the whole image of "bad girl" in pop culture. granted that image had already been there in rock etc, but it was new and taboo to the pop scene and she brought it.