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Whic hone do you like more? And dont say some thing like "They are both special in their own ways and are both the best" or something to that extent. Just a clear answer. Chicago or New York City.

I like Chicago 31643235645768754536578980976543 times more the NYC

EDIT: If you dont like either, which city do you like?

London.

I've never been to NYC, but as long as you stay on the north side of Chicago, it's very nice.

London.

Good, I live there now, but Chicago is better.

Chicago? Please. New York, of course.

Chicago? Please. New York, of course.

Whats so good about NYC?

None of the above.

Bklyn!

NY. I went to Chicago once. Every hotel except the ones by the airport seemed to be booked up. I asked three or four people where to get one of those "famous" Chicago deep dish pizzas and only one person knew what I was talking about. He directed me to Uno. It's a chain, not an authentic Chicago pizzeria. In conclusion, Chicago lacks adequate hotel accomodations and the people are ignorant of their own traditional foods.

They are both special in their own ways and are both the best. :p

Seriously though, I've never been to either city. I think New York seems like a cooler place. I'm not sure why; I guess they just do a better job of advertising their city.

New York City is beautiful, but is it, unfortunately, quite liberal.

Whats so good about NYC?

:D Everything. Espeically the pizza, the Yankees, the subway system, the harbor, the Theater District, Chinatown, it's not windy all the time, Central Park, Prospect Park, Flushing Meadows, Brooklyn, the Stock Exchange, you know, a few little things like that. :p

Look, I'm sure Chicago's a lovely place. I just happen to be from New York ... well, New Jersey, which is really better than either but you didn't ask about Jersey ... what did you expect me to say?

Chicago, if only because of Chicago dogs and The Blues Brothers.

New York City is beautiful, but is it, unfortunately, quite liberal.

Thank you, MTAE, I forgot that. Thankfully, new York is quite liberal (and diverse, too ... sorry the Mods shut down the Name Thread, by the way).

NY. I went to Chicago once. Every hotel except the ones by the airport seemed to be booked up. I asked three or four people where to get one of those "famous" Chicago deep dish pizzas and only one person knew what I was talking about. He directed me to Uno. It's a chain, not an authentic Chicago pizzeria. In conclusion, Chicago lacks adequate hotel accomodations and the people are ignorant of their own traditional foods.

Which airport? And, Chicago style pizza was invented at Uno in 1943.

Which airport?

O'Hare I think. Got a nice hotel room there though. Forgot which hotel chain it was. Sucked though because I wanted to see the city's night life. I was on a road trip and had my car there, but didn't want to drive drunk from the city back to the airport.

I like looking up at the buildings in NYC, but it makes me dizzy and I feel like I'm going to fall into the street..

I really want to check Chicago out soon. Looks like a possible favourite.

But, since I can't decide, I'll say..

Philadelphia.

i don't know anything good about chicago.

neither are as good as edinburgh i'm sure :p

I like looking up at the buildings in NYC, but it makes me dizzy and I feel like I'm going to fall into the street..

I really want to check Chicago out soon. Looks like a possible favourite.

But, since I can't decide, I'll say..

Philadelphia.

Tall buildings in Chicago, too, so just make sure you're not standing at the edge of the sidewalk. Philadelphia's nice, we considered moving there when we decided to move out of New York (which was an economic choice, we wanted to buy a house and prices in the City were skyrocketing).

My Brooklyn (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11957451&postcount=1017)

well, they are both shitty compared to florence or something. but if you want a choice between the two, then clearly it has to be NYC.

My Brooklyn (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11957451&postcount=1017)

Ah, the Gowanus Canal! We used to live up 9th Street, between 5th and 6th Avenues. The F Train went under the house on its way up the hill between the 4th Avenue and 7th Avenue stations. Paisan!

Ah, the Gowanus Canal! We used to live up 9th Street, between 5th and 6th Avenues. The F Train went under the house on its way up the hill between the 4th Avenue and 7th Avenue stations. Paisan!

Thats cool. Or scary.

Btw, its changed a ton in the last few years. There's a Holiday Inn on Union St. between 3rd and 4th. A Holiday Inn!!

Thats cool. Or scary.

That I recognized the Canal or that the subway went under our house? After a month or so we didn't even hear it.

all american cities are terrible.

That I recognized the Canal or that the subway went under our house? After a month or so we didn't even hear it.

That you recognized the canal, I've heard plenty of subway horror stories :p .

Thats cool. Or scary.

Btw, its changed a ton in the last few years. There's a Holiday Inn on Union St. between 3rd and 4th. A Holiday Inn!!

:eek: Should have known, the Green Awning Yuppification blight was spreading all along 7th Avenue and outward. We left in 1997, so it's been a while. The funny thing was that when we went back in 2005, we found ourselves standing on the corners waiting for the lights to change. That's when I knew it had been too long!

:eek: Should have known, the Green Awning Yuppification blight was spreading all along 7th Avenue and outward. We left in 1997, so it's been a while. The funny thing was that when we went back in 2005, we found ourselves standing on the corners waiting for the lights to change. That's when I knew it had been too long!

lol, yuppification has now taken over 5th as well. Clothing stores, fancy bars and resturants. No more bodegas, hardware stores and drugies.:(

all american cities are terrible.

Based on what?

lol, yuppification has now taken over 5th as well. Clothing stores, fancy bars and resturants. No more bodegas, hardware stores and drugies.:(

Oh noes! I loved the Leopoldi Brothers Hardware store on 5th (at 9th). And next to them was Western Meats, an excellent local for years butcher shop. I knew that would happen.

all american cities are terrible.

Quite a few of your countrymen appear to disagree. These numbers are as of the 2000 census, Polish-Americans by state (top 20):

01 New York (986,141)
02 Illinois (932,996)
03 Michigan (854,844)
04 Pennsylvania (824,146)
05 New Jersey (576,473)
06 Wisconsin (497,726)
07 California (491,325)
08 Ohio (433,016)
09 Florida (429,691)
10 Massachusetts (323,210)
11 Connecticut (284,272)
12 Minnesota (240,405)
13 Texas (228,309)
14 Maryland (184,364)
15 Indiana (183,989)
16 Arizona (126,665)
17 Virginia (124,647)
18 Colorado (101,190)
19 Missouri (90,448)
20 Georgia (82,765)

Quite a few of your countrymen appear to disagree. These numbers are as of the 2000 census, Polish-Americans by state (top 20):

And to be somewhat on topic.

Thus, it is said that Chicago is the second largest "Polish" city in the world, as Warsaw, the Poland capital, is the only city with more Polish residents. Chicago has three major Polish neighborhoods.

Anyway, I don't care that much for either of them. My favorite metropolis would be Paris, but I like Geneva more.

Oh noes! I loved the Leopoldi Brothers Hardware store on 5th (at 9th). And next to them was Western Meats, an excellent local for years butcher shop. I knew that would happen.

9th street might still be safe, Down near Union, President, Sacket, Garfield are the hardest hit on 5th avenue.

Chicago style pizza was invented at Uno in 1943.

It was invented in China, when it was called Shanghai style treats.

Traders brought pizza to Europe. Romans called it decorative pastries. Mmmmmmmm, yeah!

9th street might still be safe, Down near Union, President, Sacket, Garfield are the hardest hit on 5th avenue.

That's Park Slope and Carroll Gardens growing toward each other.

Did you know that there used to be a fairly sizable Native American community in the Gowanus area? The men worked the high steel on skyscrapers being built. Seems American Indians don't suffer from vertigo anywhere near as much as white people.

Chicago. Where else can you eat out, go shopping, and watch a street fight in the same day?

(Note: Done this, except it was only a guy being pushed around, so not a street fight. It was pretty funny, people didn't do anything. Not even studiously ignored it.)

Chicago. Where else can you eat out, go shopping, and watch a street fight in the same day?

(Note: Done this, except it was only a guy being pushed around, so not a street fight. It was pretty funny, people didn't do anything. Not even studiously ignored it.)

You can see that in New York...

NY. I went to Chicago once. Every hotel except the ones by the airport seemed to be booked up. I asked three or four people where to get one of those "famous" Chicago deep dish pizzas and only one person knew what I was talking about. He directed me to Uno. It's a chain, not an authentic Chicago pizzeria. In conclusion, Chicago lacks adequate hotel accomodations and the people are ignorant of their own traditional foods.

Actually, the original Uno is in Chicago, from whence all other Unos spawned, so you're mistaken there.

However, the three names I keep hearing from a friend who lived there are Gino's East, Malnati's, and Giordano's.

all american cities are terrible.

You've been to every single blessed American city? All of them? Or are you just spouting ignorance?

all american cities are terrible.

Yeah. Cities like Houston and Dallas that try to style themselves as "All American" are pretty lame. NYC however is really multi-cultural. It even has decent Indian food if you know where to look (hint: it isn't in Manhattan.)

Chi-town!

Now this could only happen to a guy like me
And only happen in a town like this
And so I say to each of you most gratefully
As I throw each one of you a kiss

This is my kind of town, Chicago is
My kind of town, Chicago is
My kind of people too
People who, smile at you


Da White Sox, Da Bulls, Da Bears, what more can a person want.

Museum of Science and Indusry, Navy Pier, Lakeview (I refuse to call that neighborhood by its more well known name), Hancock Center, Sears Tower, all that Jazz, the Taste, Watertower Plaza, Millenium Park, Field Museum, Shedd Aquarium, Art Institute, great restaurants and hotels, etc. I can go on forever here about my city.

Chicago. Where else can you eat out, go shopping, and watch a street fight in the same day?

(Note: Done this, except it was only a guy being pushed around, so not a street fight. It was pretty funny, people didn't do anything. Not even studiously ignored it.)

In New York you can do all that at the same time once the weather warms up and you can eat at a sidewalk table while your friend tries on clothes in the boutique next door and enjoy the scuffle that ensues when two yuppie chicks try to catch the same cab.

Yeah. Cities like Houston and Dallas that try to style themselves as "All American" are pretty lame. NYC however is really multi-cultural. It even has decent Indian food if you know where to look (hint: it isn't in Manhattan.)

;) My guess would be Queens or Brooklyn.

Actually, the original Uno is in Chicago, from whence all other Unos spawned, so you're mistaken there.

However, the three names I keep hearing from a friend who lived there are Gino's East, Malnati's, and Giordano's.

Giordanos is the best of those 3. Unos has the credit with inventing the Chicago pizza though. If you're in the North suburbs, then Edwardos in Wilmette beats even Giordanos.

all american cities are terrible.

You probably have never been to an American city.

At least our cities don't have dark histories attached to them like Krakow, which is probably more known for how the Poles cooperated with Nazi attempts in killing my people.

Poland sucks.

I choose NYC. I live there. 24th street between 5th and 6th. It's nice. RICKSHAW DUMPLING BAR FTW! :D

In an effort to anger New Yorkers, I submit the following:

Jets suck, Giants suck (108 yd FG return!!!), Knicks suck, Mets suck, Yankees suck!

In an effort to anger New Yorkers, I submit the following:

Jets suck, Giants suck (108 yd FG return!!!), Knicks suck, Mets suck, Yankees suck!

And then the entire bar was knocked unconscious...

And then the entire bar was knocked unconscious...

Worked in Family Guy

In an effort to anger New Yorkers, I submit the following:

Jets suck, Giants suck (108 yd FG return!!!), Knicks suck, Mets suck, Yankees suck!

Chicago, home of the cubs. nough said.

Chicago, home of the cubs. nough said.

Cuck the Fubs.

Don't hold me accountable for the trash heap at 1060 W Addison.

I'm a lifelong Sox fan. We are the true baseball team in Chicago. You will in fact note that most people within the dictatorial control of Da Mayor (Richard M. Daley) are Sox fans. It's the people in the North and West burbs that are the Flub fans.

Worked in Family Guy

Yeah, but do you have someone like Lois to kick their asses?

Yeah, but do you have someone like Lois to kick their asses?

We'll just sic Ditka, Butkus, and Urlacher on em.

Cuck the Fubs.

Don't hold me accountable for the trash heap at 1060 W Addison.

I'm a lifelong Sox fan. We are the true baseball team in Chicago. You will in fact note that most people within the dictatorial control of Da Mayor (Richard M. Daley) are Sox fans. It's the people in the North and West burbs that are the Flub fans.

Like I said, Chicago, home of the cubs.:p

In an effort to anger New Yorkers, I submit the following:

Jets suck, Giants suck (108 yd FG return!!!), Knicks suck, Mets suck, Yankees suck!

Ahhhhh, so YOU were the Cubby fan who lost the World Series chance for them by grabbing a ball in play!

Ahhhhh, so YOU were the Cubby fan who lost the World Series chance for them by grabbing a ball in play!

LOL, I wish I was Steve Bartman. That man is a living legend.

I can safely say I'm a lifelong Sox fan who's most prized possession is a ball that was signed by the entire 1959 World Series team. (including Manager Al Lopez).

Why don't you just check out and see what the address listed in my location really is

O'Hare I think. Got a nice hotel room there though. Forgot which hotel chain it was. Sucked though because I wanted to see the city's night life. I was on a road trip and had my car there, but didn't want to drive drunk from the city back to the airport.

blue line, my man, blue line

http://www.transitchicago.com/maps/rail/rail.html

Quite a few of your countrymen appear to disagree. These numbers are as of the 2000 census, Polish-Americans by state (top 20):

01 New York (986,141)
02 Illinois (932,996)
03 Michigan (854,844)
04 Pennsylvania (824,146)
05 New Jersey (576,473)
06 Wisconsin (497,726)
07 California (491,325)
08 Ohio (433,016)
09 Florida (429,691)
10 Massachusetts (323,210)
11 Connecticut (284,272)
12 Minnesota (240,405)
13 Texas (228,309)
14 Maryland (184,364)
15 Indiana (183,989)
16 Arizona (126,665)
17 Virginia (124,647)
18 Colorado (101,190)
19 Missouri (90,448)
20 Georgia (82,765)
but thats polish--americans, not poles.

You probably have never been to an American city.

At least our cities don't have dark histories attached to them like Krakow, which is probably more known for how the Poles cooperated with Nazi attempts in killing my people.

no. krakow has the history of the now non-existent polish monarchy attached to it.

and poland never co-operated with the nazis. it got invaded.

Poland sucks.
why u say that

but thats polish--americans, not poles.

The difference being? It just means that an assload of Poles came to this country one to two centuries ago. The top ten states alone have 6,349,568 people of Polish descent.

Poland has close to 35,000,000, so that's not such a small number for just ten of our states.

The difference being? It just means that an assload of Poles came to this country one to two centuries ago. The top ten states alone have 6,349,568 people of Polish descent.

Poland has close to 35,000,000, so that's not such a small number for just ten of our states.

but they came from a poland that is nothing like today's poland. they have never really been to poland. they just have the ancestry, so they are not true poles.

but they came from a poland that is nothing like today's poland. they have never really been to poland. they just have the ancestry, so they are not true poles.

Calling your ancestors frauds, eh? Now that's heartwarming.

NY. I went to Chicago once. Every hotel except the ones by the airport seemed to be booked up. I asked three or four people where to get one of those "famous" Chicago deep dish pizzas and only one person knew what I was talking about. He directed me to Uno. It's a chain, not an authentic Chicago pizzeria. In conclusion, Chicago lacks adequate hotel accomodations and the people are ignorant of their own traditional foods.
I have been to Chicago only once. Our accommodations were great, we found that restaurant specializing in "deep dish" pizza down near the El (Giordano's??), partied on Rush Street til early morning, and caught some awesome Chicago Blues in a nightclub. We made an inadvertant detour to the southside, and couldn't find Leroy Brown, but we did hear a gunshot and we exited stage right. All in all, I quite enjoyed my visit to Chicago. I wouldn't hesitate going back. :D

no. krakow has the history of the now non-existent polish monarchy attached to it.

and poland never co-operated with the nazis. it got invaded.

When it came to the Jews, the Poles were more than happy to cooperate. Just ask my cousin's grandmother. The Poles hated the Nazis, but were glad to help exterminate my people.

why u say thatApparently I don't need a reason.

NY. I went to Chicago once. Every hotel except the ones by the airport seemed to be booked up. I asked three or four people where to get one of those "famous" Chicago deep dish pizzas and only one person knew what I was talking about. He directed me to Uno. It's a chain, not an authentic Chicago pizzeria. In conclusion, Chicago lacks adequate hotel accomodations and the people are ignorant of their own traditional foods.

they're only "famous" to people who don't live here.

to (them/us), it's completely normal, and not worth commenting.

and if you couldn't fine hotel accommodations, you weren't trying hard enough.

you want to try the 'famous' deep dish pizza? get on the green line to harlem/lake (it's the end of the line, can't miss it), walk a block north and walk east until you see a movie theater across from an Indian Food place called Khyber Pass (Best. Indian. Food. Ever). I can't remember exactly what the place is called, but it's a little hole in the wall with like four tables and absurdly good food. (walking east, it's about half a block before the movie theater)

Actually, Oak Park as a whole (the neighborhood you will be walking through at this time) is a great place. even if you don't find the italian place, there's no shortage of resturants in that neighborhood.


[edit] and yea: I voted Chicago. My home might be New Jersey, but I love Chicago. Nothing beats the mass transit here.

Calling your ancestors frauds, eh? Now that's heartwarming.

no. not my antcestors, but those who only have antcestors of the nationality are frauds.

When it came to the Jews, the Poles were more than happy to cooperate. Just ask my cousin's grandmother. The Poles hated the Nazis, but were glad to help exterminate my people.

And Russia's not much better in that respect.

no. not my antcestors, but those who only have antcestors of the nationality are frauds.

Ah jeez...

guys, can we cut the Polish dick-waving contest and get back on topic here?

I was sorta hoping to hear from people who have lived here longer than me what some good places in Chicago were.

I can't really compare because I've only been to NYC, which in my opinion, is a pretty kool krazy place to visit. Lots of stuff to do tehre.

And Russia's not much better in that respect.

That's true, and had a Russian made the comment I was responding to I would've said the same thing.

I can't really compare because I've only been to NYC, which in my opinion, is a pretty kool krazy place to visit. Lots of stuff to do tehre.

There's a reason we're called "the city that never sleeps."

'Early Edition' shits all over New York!

Whic hone do you like more? And dont say some thing like "They are both special in their own ways and are both the best" or something to that extent. Just a clear answer. Chicago or New York City.

I like Chicago 31643235645768754536578980976543 times more the NYC

EDIT: If you dont like either, which city do you like?

WTF?

I voted Chicago. It's not my favourite city in the world, but I do like the city anyway. I don't like NYC, whenever I have been NYC or London for more than a couple of days, I get a massive headache from stress. They seem too crowded to me. If we're talking about big cities, I prefer Paris and Toronto to Chicago, but Chicago is pretty nice for a big city. But I really prefer small cities. All the advantages of living in a city without the same rush.

new york...duh.

I've never been to NYC, but as long as you stay on the north side of Chicago, it's very nice.

But then where will you eat? Well, maybe the little Mexican hole-in-the-walls up in Rogers Park, but still. You simply cannot get good soul food unless you go to the west or south sides.

NY. I went to Chicago once. Every hotel except the ones by the airport seemed to be booked up. I asked three or four people where to get one of those "famous" Chicago deep dish pizzas and only one person knew what I was talking about. He directed me to Uno. It's a chain, not an authentic Chicago pizzeria. In conclusion, Chicago lacks adequate hotel accomodations and the people are ignorant of their own traditional foods.

Ahh, Uno, now theres a story. See, Chicago style pizza was invented by a chef named Lou Malnati. Him and a friend opened Uno. Eventually buisness went bad and Lou split, opening a restaurant named after him. Fast forward 50 years and the company that owns Uno sold the name and the logo, but didn't sell the recipe. You can still get a good pizza at Uno downtown(sometimes), but you might as well take a cab out to the Malnati's in Lincolnwood(just north of Chicago).

Oh...and they'll send a frozen one anywhere in the world:

http://www.tastesofchicago.com/

Actually, the original Uno is in Chicago, from whence all other Unos spawned, so you're mistaken there.

However, the three names I keep hearing from a friend who lived there are Gino's East, Malnati's, and Giordano's.

Gino's East is garbage. They used to be amazing but changed their distributer about 15 years back and they're sausage just taste off. Giordanos is...well...I'm not sure what it is. It isn't really Chicago style, more like stuffed. Good, but not really the same thing.

Museum of Science and Indusry, Navy Pier, Lakeview (I refuse to call that neighborhood by its more well known name), Hancock Center, Sears Tower, all that Jazz, the Taste, Watertower Plaza, Millenium Park, Field Museum, Shedd Aquarium, Art Institute, great restaurants and hotels, etc. I can go on forever here about my city.

You, sir, are now my mortal enemy! ;)

Then again, you're a sxo fan so you're probably on the payroll of the little tyrant from Bridgeport, arent you? What, do you drive a truck?

;)

You, sir, are now my mortal enemy! ;)

Then again, you're a sxo fan so you're probably on the payroll of the little tyrant from Bridgeport, arent you? What, do you drive a truck?

;)

No, I hate Daley. Just see any other posts I've made referring to the Dictator and his father. I highly recommend you read "Boss" by Mike Royko if you hate Daley.

No, I hate Daley. Just see any other posts I've made referring to the Dictator and his father. I highly recommend you read "Boss" by Mike Royko if you hate Daley.

I know man, but claiming that moneypit makes me suspicious.

Seriously, I know how ya feel about the little turd.

Oh, and Royko was a god.

I know man, but claiming that moneypit makes me suspicious.

Seriously, I know how ya feel about the little turd.

Oh, and Royko was a god.

About half of the budger for Milenium Park actually was the new Soldier Field. No Bears fan can complain about that.

Royko was amazing. I own all of his books (mainly collections of his columns)

About half of the budger for Milenium Park actually was the new Soldier Field. No Bears fan can complain about that.


I can. The new field is ugly as sin and the McCaskey family isn't exactly hurting. There was no excuse to waste public funds on building new luxury boxes when the city is already half-bankrupt. Its crap like that(and the planters, and the Olympic pipe-dream) that causes our 10 cent on the dollar sales tax and property taxes that border on extortion.

Teh Big Apple owns teh Windy City 50 ways to Sunday.

New York, since it's right across the river. And it's liberal.

Chicago is not within bicycle range, so it's not as awesome.

I can. The new field is ugly as sin and the McCaskey family isn't exactly hurting. There was no excuse to waste public funds on building new luxury boxes when the city is already half-bankrupt. Its crap like that(and the planters, and the Olympic pipe-dream) that causes our 10 cent on the dollar sales tax and property taxes that border on extortion.

I hate the McCaskeys, but Soldier Field was practically falling apart. I was at a game in 2001 and saw the problems with the place. It really wasn't too historic since it really was rebuilt in 1970 when the Bears moved there (sort of like how today's Yankee Stadium was really built in 1975 within the old one).

When you go inside Soldier Field, you see it is amazing now. It's definitely worth it.

The Olympics are a pipedream alright. Daley is just being an idiot with that idea. Just like his Meigs Field plan. I'm still pissed he hasn't been prosecuted.

I hate the McCaskeys, but Soldier Field was practically falling apart. I was at a game in 2001 and saw the problems with the place. It really wasn't too historic since it really was rebuilt in 1970 when the Bears moved there (sort of like how today's Yankee Stadium was really built in 1975 within the old one).

When you go inside Soldier Field, you see it is amazing now. It's definitely worth it.

The Olympics are a pipedream alright. Daley is just being an idiot with that idea. Just like his Meigs Field plan. I'm still pissed he hasn't been prosecuted.

New York also had olympic pipe dreams, but they were killed off a little while ago. and they're going to tear down Yankee Stadium soonish.

I wouldn't be able to stand being a Cubs, White Sox, Yankees or Mets fan, so neither.

Of course, much respect to the Blackhawks and Rangers.

I wouldn't be able to stand being a Cubs, White Sox, Yankees or Mets fan, so neither.

Of course, much respect to the Blackhawks and Rangers.

:eek:


Are you...not a fan of baseball?

:eek:


Are you...not a fan of baseball?

I'm not a fan of rich people having better teams than less-rich people. Baseball should have a salary cap, but that will probably never happen. I am marginally a fan of the Blue Jays, and the Brewers. Can't go wrong cheering for a team that's beer-centric.

I'm not a fan of rich people having better teams than less-rich people. Baseball should have a salary cap, but that will probably never happen. I am marginally a fan of the Blue Jays, and the Brewers. Can't go wrong cheering for a team that's beer-centric.

A salary cap would be awesome. Stupid players association and them being all-powerful.

A salary cap would be awesome. Stupid players association and them being all-powerful.

I know, right? Look how awesome hockey's gotten now that the teams are more balanced. Well, unless you're a Flyers fan.Then you ought to start cheering for the Eagles or Sixers or start thinking about the Phillies.

Lakeview (I refuse to call that neighborhood by its more well known name)

Hey, you dont have to be gay to love Boystown. All the gay bars and bondage stores are fun to look at, and scare your relatives when they come to visit. It really has a sense of community though, and if you walk around late at night you see so much wierd stuff.

I'm not a fan of rich people having better teams than less-rich people. Baseball should have a salary cap, but that will probably never happen. I am marginally a fan of the Blue Jays, and the Brewers. Can't go wrong cheering for a team that's beer-centric.

St. Louis has a pretty good team, and I doubt many people who lived/live there would describe the city as "rich."

On the other hand, the Cubs suck...always.

Frank sinatra songs about new york-1
Frank sinatra songs about chicago-2

I beleive the "chairman of the board" speaks for himself

<- just flew in to o'hare

<- just flew in to o'hare

AKA "hell on earth"

if at all possible, fly in through Midway.

if at all possible, fly in through Midway.

not if i want to get home quickly