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Which do you consider John Browning's handgun masterpiece?

I'm eager to see what everyone thinks...

M2 .50 cal machine gun. Perfect for home defense (It shoots intruders right through the walls), plinking, or hunting elephants.

the Browning Automatic Rifle,or BAR, was a nice piece of work.

I prefer other Brownings, Robert and Elizabeth Barrett:

My first thought was, he lied in every word,
That hoary cripple, with malicious eye
Askance to watch the working of his lie
On mine, and mouth scarce able to afford
Suppression of the glee that pursed and scored
Its edge, at one more victim gained thereby.

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of everyday's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with the passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints!---I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life!---and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.

"The 1911 was the design given by God to us through John Moses Browning that represents the epitome of what a killing tool needs to be. It was true in 1911 and is true now."

OOC: While both the BAR and the M2 are excellent weapons, we're focusing more on the handguns here, fellas.

As of now, it seems everyone that voted favors the 1911 3 to 1.

OOC: While both the BAR and the M2 are excellent weapons, we're focusing more on the handguns here, fellas.

As of now, it seems everyone that voted favors the 1911 3 to 1.

Why? The world of weapons is far to varied to limit yourself like that. Even the famous shotgun manufacturer Mossberg is branching out.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2z847dy.jpg

The 1911 is popular for a reason. It has enough stop-and-drop power that you don't need a headshot every time. Its easy to maintain compared to say, a .358 wheel gun or IMI Desert Eagle. It's heavy enough to absorb its own recoil unlike the Justice Slides of the .50 Express.

M2 .50 cal machine gun. Perfect for home defense (It shoots intruders right through the walls), plinking, or hunting elephants.
I concur.

I'm not going to be popular, but I've got to say the Hi-Power. The first reliable and effective 9mm, plenty of rounds, controllable and easy to maintain, and, unlike the .45 hand-cannon, RELIABLE. I've never had a M1911A1 that wouldn't jam on a dime.

I'm not going to be popular, but I've got to say the Hi-Power. The first reliable and effective 9mm, plenty of rounds, controllable and easy to maintain, and, unlike the .45 hand-cannon, RELIABLE. I've never had a M1911A1 that wouldn't jam on a dime.

Ive never had my 1911 jam, not even once.

Feed her ball ammo, she was designed for it.

A .45 ball will stop baddie just as fast as a little 9mm hollowpoint.

Its easy to maintain compared to say, a .358 wheel gun or IMI Desert Eagle.

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You mean .357 or .38? Either way Maintainance doesn't get any simpler that a wheelgun. The tear down on a Desert Eagle isn't much more difficult than a 1911.

I've never had a M1911A1 that wouldn't jam on a dime.

If you buy a garbage 1911 clone (is there such a thing?) and then feed it garbage ammo, of course it's going to jam. The only time I've had ANY 1911 jam is using hollow points or really cheap Wolf ammo. The rounded 185gr JHP from Winchester or Remington are the only HP I've had feed reliably.

1911 has been tried and true as a reliable stopper for the last century, and spent 74 years serving the US armed forces. Many police departments and military special ops still use it. Designed originally in the 1890's, it is STILL the benchmark for which all other pistols are compared.

I'm not going to be popular, but I've got to say the Hi-Power. The first reliable and effective 9mm, plenty of rounds, controllable and easy to maintain, and, unlike the .45 hand-cannon, RELIABLE. I've never had a M1911A1 that wouldn't jam on a dime.

Then you've never had a good 1911. I never suffered a single jam while using a standard issue 1911 at the pistol range in the Marine Corps, nor have I since with my Kimber Custom II. And that adds up to a lot rounds downrange.

Why? The world of weapons is far to varied to limit yourself like that. Even the famous shotgun manufacturer Mossberg is branching out.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2z847dy.jpg

I've always wanted a rapier with a scope, for long range fencing, but it's so hard to get them these days.

Ive never had my 1911 jam, not even once.

Feed her ball ammo, she was designed for it.

A .45 ball will stop baddie just as fast as a little 9mm hollowpoint.

Black Hills JHP ammo works just fine in my Colt Commander and in my Kimber. Maybe Dodo doesn't have the grip strength to fire a .45? No dig, just a reminder that the .45 needs to be held very securely to cycle properly.

1911 followed by the BAR .

If you know what IPSC is , and a Gold Cup is then its all good .:D Even better if you use one at the other ....:D




Here spread the love.....

- http://www.m1911.org/m1911dt.htm

Black Hills JHP ammo works just fine in my Colt Commander and in my Kimber. Maybe Dodo doesn't have the grip strength to fire a .45? No dig, just a reminder that the .45 needs to be held very securely to cycle properly.

Actually, could be. I'm not a big guy, and I've never been especially muscular. Tough, wiry, yes, and plenty of endurance, but great physical strength has never been my thing. (Hell, I always was better with a long arm than a pistol anyway. I really had to work at it to qualify when I was in the corps.)

There's a damnably good reason that USSOCOM ands the USMC still issue a varient of the 1911. Those 2 mm do make a bigger hole, and bigger holes are one of the two only measures of stopping power (the other, penetration, depends on a number of other factrors).

Actually, could be. I'm not a big guy, and I've never been especially muscular. Tough, wiry, yes, and plenty of endurance, but great physical strength has never been my thing. (Hell, I always was better with a long arm than a pistol anyway. I really had to work at it to qualify when I was in the corps.)

When I went through my Basic School class, we had the Naval Academy graduates included in with us OCS grads. One of the guys that graduated from the USNA was a fellow named Curt Gainer. He had been on the varsity football team and was huge. He could hold the pistol and shoot it without ever showing any effect from recoil. He couldn't hit the black worth a damn, but he never had problems with the pistol cycling properly.

Anyway, next time you shoot a 1911, think about a firm grip and a stiff wrist so that your arm, and not the wrist, takes the recoil.

There's many better informed folks that might have additional insight into this whole grip thing.

Even though I don't like mass-shifting...
http://www.tfarchive.com/toys/reviews/jg1_browning.php

The M1911 for sure. Reliable, powerful...'tis a shame we had to ditch it for the Beretta. Thankfully, most of our SWAT and Spec. Ops. boys have the foresight to use a variant of the old faithful handgun.

The 1911 is a beautiful piece. It's exceptional for target and competition shootings, having never let me down in competition due to jaming. Further, the double action/single action trigger is the nicest I have felt with any pistol (Comp trigger/springs/backstrap safety on mine). If it weren't for the size I would use it for my CCW stuff as well.

Black Hills JHP ammo works just fine in my Colt Commander and in my Kimber. Maybe Dodo doesn't have the grip strength to fire a .45? No dig, just a reminder that the .45 needs to be held very securely to cycle properly.

Yup, no limpswristing the 1911!

Another virtue of ball ammo in .45- Cheap!

The 1911 is a beautiful piece. It's exceptional for target and competition shootings, having never let me down in competition due to jaming. Further, the double action/single action trigger is the nicest I have felt with any pistol (Comp trigger/springs/backstrap safety on mine). If it weren't for the size I would use it for my CCW stuff as well.

C'mon, kimber makes a beautiful CDP Ultra Carry II

http://www.impactguns.com/store/669278320571.html

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