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For those of us who have a problem with stealing music off the internet and actually go out and buy CDs, what's likely to be your next purchase? I'm probably going to pick up "Last Man Standing" by Jerry Lee Lewis with other artists.

Probably something by Kamelot, if I see it.

For those of us who have a problem with stealing music off the internet and actually go out and buy CDs, what's likely to be your next purchase? I'm probably going to pick up "Last Man Standing" by Jerry Lee Lewis with other artists.

Are copies of the history teacher in Kearny preaching instead of teaching available? :D

I don't know, it's been a while since I've bought a CD. May have to go wander the local shop this weekend.

Not sure. Probably none. Games are switching to DVD-ROMs now, so I guess I'll be buying one of those next :D

I haven't actually bought a CD in ages - I (legally) download all my music now.

I don't know what I'll buy next, but the last album I bought was KT Tunstall's new one.

Probably E-40s' 'My Ghetto Report Card'. I bought the Akon CD when it came out on Tuesday - pure awesome.

Why would anyone buy a CD? I'll download a few songs, but why buy a CD full of crap I'm probably not interested in?

"The Crane Wife" by The Decemberists.

"The Crane Wife" by The Decemberists.

Ooooh, I want that one! Have to write that down.

I want to order the "Enter Shikari" album at some point....

Songs from under the Sink LP by Mischief Brew is on its way to way to me now

Ooooh, I want that one! Have to write that down.
:)

Probably Reset byt Mute Math.

That or Feels by Animal Collective.

I have a pretty big wishlist, and because I generally have to travel into the inner city to get the CDs I want, I usually walk home with 10 or so at a time.

At the moment it is:

Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Black Earth
Boris - Amplifier Worship
Clutch - Blast Tyrant
Dwarves - Blood Guts & Pussy
Earthride - Vampire Circus
El Ritual - El Ritual
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Esoteric - Metamorphogenesis
Diamanda Galás - The Litanies of Satan
Impaled Northern Moonforest - Impaled Northern Moonforest
Iron Monkey - Iron Monkey
Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye
Leaf Hound - Growers of Mushroom
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Pelican - The Fire in Our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw
Propergol - Program Vengeance
Sunn O))) - The Grimm Robe Demos
Té - If That Is What Is Being Thought, Liberated Sound Talks the Depth of [Musical] World. (lol. not kidding. (http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/537247.jpg))
We're All Gonna Die - The Wreck of the Minot

But yeah. There's lots more I could add to that list, but those are all i've bothered writing down.

Alot of what I listen to is too obscure to find on p2p services, so I mail order. I'll probably get Daughters - Canada Songs soon, and Bucket Full Of Teeth has a CD, so I must get it too. :D

RX Bandits' new album, probably.

thinking of buying the second album by the kills. or maybe i'll go mental and try and find something by shitmat (http://www.shitmat.co.uk/) or steveless (http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/steveless/) (neither of them are called steve). not that i'm averse to downloading, but i generally only download the odd tune from years ago, not current artists.

I have a pretty big wishlist, and because I generally have to travel into the inner city to get the CDs I want, I usually walk home with 10 or so at a time.

At the moment it is:

Bohren & Der Club of Gore - Black Earth
Boris - Amplifier Worship
Clutch - Blast Tyrant
Dwarves - Blood Guts & Pussy
Earthride - Vampire Circus
El Ritual - El Ritual
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Esoteric - Metamorphogenesis
Diamanda Galás - The Litanies of Satan
Impaled Northern Moonforest - Impaled Northern Moonforest
Iron Monkey - Iron Monkey
Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye
Leaf Hound - Growers of Mushroom
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Pelican - The Fire in Our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw
Propergol - Program Vengeance
Sunn O))) - The Grimm Robe Demos
Té - If That Is What Is Being Thought, Liberated Sound Talks the Depth of [Musical] World. (lol. not kidding. (http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/537247.jpg))
We're All Gonna Die - The Wreck of the Minot

But yeah. There's lots more I could add to that list, but those are all i've bothered writing down.

Oh, those I all have. I can burn them for you. :)


or steveless (http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/steveless/) (neither of them are called steve). Awesome. :p

Oh, those I all have. I can burn them for you. :)

:rolleyes: :p

A Matter of Life and Death by Iron Maiden - that should be out soon, right?

Plus there's always the gaps in my Rick Wakeman library. King John and the Magna Charter is next on that list.

And that's why I buy CDs rather than download individual songs. How much Rick Wakeman does iTunes have?

They still make CDs? :eek:

They still make CDs? :eek:

And vinyls and cassetes!

And vinyls and cassetes!

No more 8-track though.:(

Ich kaufe keine CDs.

Ich kaufe keine CDs.

Why not?

I have a pretty big wishlist, and because I generally have to travel into the inner city to get the CDs I want, I usually walk home with 10 or so at a time.

At the moment it is:

Propergol - Program Vengeance


But yeah. There's lots more I could add to that list, but those are all i've bothered writing down.
I thought you'd ordered that?

There's nothing I particularly want right now. Chances are I'll see something I like next time I'm in town then come home and order it online. Generally cheaper. Oooh, actually - the new Isis album, In The Absence Of Truth. I want that. I want some more Godspeed You! Black Emperor as well, but I imagine I'll try to get them on vinyl instead of cd.

In general I'll buy a CD if I think it's really good or love the cover art; as such I'd imagine my next purchase'll be "Cheap Thrills" by Big Brother & the Holding Company, though I may actually get the LP.

Why not?

Ich habe mein Computer und meinen Radio. ;)

I thought you'd ordered that?

I don't have a paypal, unfortunately, which makes such things much more difficult. I did download it, though, which increased my resolve to actually buy it, since it's awesome++.

Ich habe mein Computer und meinen Radio. ;)

Das ist gut, aber hast du ein CD player?

Das ist gut, aber hast du ein CD player?

Ja, ich habe ein kaputt CD spieler. :p

last time i was in ye good olde record shoppe i saw "Someone Told Me Life Gets Easier In Your 50’s" by 1-speed-bike, and i wanted to buy it, but i ended up buying rock action from mogwai, wich was half the price and had some of my favorite songs by them on it.
i'm also looking for the milk-eyed mender from Joanna Newsom, wich also looks really good.
if i win the lottery i might just buy this whole catalogue (http://www.cstrecords.com/mailorder_001-005_eur.html) because i generaly like most of the music by this label and it could be cool to discover some new stuff.
i also lost a cd from ryoji ikeda :confused: so i might want to replace that, maybe with another one

or i could just go into a record shop and look around, look at some cover art, and decide to buy or not buy a CD.


Ja, ich habe ein kaputt CD spieler. :p

doesn't your computer have a CD-drive?

It depends where I go. As of today, I have The Complete Recordings by Robert Johnson and Tanx by T. Rex in my shopping cart on www.bmgmusic.com , but I doubt I'll be buying from there next since I just placed an order.
If I go to the cheapest local store for new music, and they have what I want, I will probably get:

Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
Pink Fairies - What a Bunch of Sweeties
and a few others.
If I go to a used CD store, I'll get a bunch of ones from the $1, $2.50, and $5 racks, with a few more expensive ones thrown in there.

Boris - Amplifier Worship
Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
Diamanda Galás - The Litanies of SatanThese ones are good.

Clutch - Blast Tyrant
Dwarves - Blood Guts & Pussy
Esoteric - Metamorphogenesis
Iron Monkey - Iron Monkey
Sunn O))) - The Grimm Robe Demos
These ones are also on my list.

"The Crane Wife" by The Decemberists.

I'll have to look that one up. The Wiki article links them to a few bands I like, including the Shins, who I really like.

I'm going to get something by the Eels. haven't decided which one yet.

For those of us who have a problem with stealing music off the internet and actually go out and buy CDs, what's likely to be your next purchase? I'm probably going to pick up "Last Man Standing" by Jerry Lee Lewis with other artists.

Probably either...

THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Myth-Blind-Guardian/dp/B000GLKRDS/sr=1-1/qid=1163767435/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1351451-7013729?ie=UTF8&s=music)

or

THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Rosenrot-Rammstein/dp/B000BK8FH4/sr=1-1/qid=1163767493/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1351451-7013729?ie=UTF8&s=music)

These ones are good.

I downloaded the first two as my means of getting into those bands, but while i've picked up other albums by both of them since, those ones have eluded me to date. As for Diamanda Galás, sounds weird enough for me to like without hearing it anyway, so i'm willing to make a gamble. :P

These ones are also on my list.

Cool. I would have bought the Dwarves album already, but every time I see it, it's about $30. I don't really want to pay that much for a 15 minute album.

Probably either...

THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Twist-Myth-Blind-Guardian/dp/B000GLKRDS/sr=1-1/qid=1163767435/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1351451-7013729?ie=UTF8&s=music)

or

THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Rosenrot-Rammstein/dp/B000BK8FH4/sr=1-1/qid=1163767493/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1351451-7013729?ie=UTF8&s=music)
Rosenrot isn't a great album. It's pretty much the stuff that didn't get on Reise Reise, which I considered (apart from a few tracks: Moskau and Los) to be considerably weaker than Mutter or Sehnsucht.

I downloaded the first two as my means of getting into those bands, but while i've picked up other albums by both of them since, those ones have eluded me to date. As for Diamanda Galás, sounds weird enough for me to like without hearing it anyway, so i'm willing to make a gamble. :P Oh, she is. I'm surprised you don't get her album with John Paul Jones first, though.

Cool. I would have bought the Dwarves album already, but every time I see it, it's about $30. I don't really want to pay that much for a 15 minute album.Wow, really, only 15 minutes?
Ah, well, there's always www.subpop.com though I dunno how well that works for you.

I legally download most of my music now, however I still have some CD's that I really like, in fact I lost one recently and am going to the record store to pick it up next weekend (he had to special order it since it's no longer stocked) and am getting it for $11 which is cheaper than downloading all the songs on it (it has 12 tracks) and yeah, I really like each song on it.




oh........It's "Yourself or someone like you"*

*don't hurt me

I legally download most of my music now, however I still have some CD's that I really like, in fact I lost one recently and am going to the record store to pick it up next weekend (he had to special order it since it's no longer stocked) and am getting it for $11 which is cheaper than downloading all the songs on it (it has 17 tracks) and yeah, I really like each song on it.




oh........It's "Yourself or someone like you"*

*don't hurt meMatchbox 20?

I generally download cd's from emusic, but I'm out of downloads for the next few days. Last thing I downloaded was Talib Kweli's "Right About Now."

Matchbox 20?

yeah, the CD has sentimental value to me more than anything, and yeah, I can pick it up used on Amazon for a penny but really I feel the need to support my local hole in the wall record store, it's awesome.

I am honestly shocked that people still buy music.

I am honestly shocked that people still buy music.

well, I get tired of hearing my own, it's worth the money and effort to hear someone else's.

yeah, the CD has sentimental value to me more than anything, and yeah, I can pick it up used on Amazon for a penny but really I feel the need to support my local hole in the wall record store, it's awesome.I know what you mean. I do that sometimes, too - I'll pay a couple $ more at my local music store instead of buying it from Best Buy.

I am honestly shocked that people still buy music.<shrug> I'm surprised that people don't.

I am honestly shocked that people still buy music.

The worker is worthy of his or her wages. I believe the current system is generally broken, so I don't patronize the traditional record companies, but frankly, they're not producing what I want anyway. That's why I use emusic--good back catalog of stuff I like, and lots of up and coming indie groups of all genres. Same day I bought the Talib Kweli, I bought some old Ornette Coleman too.

well, I get tired of hearing my own, it's worth the money and effort to hear someone else's.

:rolleyes: you know what I meant. The only times I've felt the need to buy music over the past few years is with a few things that were so obscure I couldn't find torrents of them.

I am honestly shocked that people still buy music.

Since I can't play an instrument and my singing voice is reminiscent of a herd of crazed swine grinding broken glass and barbed wire between their teeth I've got no other option.

:rolleyes: you know what I meant. The only times I've felt the need to buy music over the past few years is with a few things that were so obscure I couldn't find torrents of them.

oh, you mean because it's so easy to get illegal music? well, then can I be surprised that people buy anything anymore? I mean it's so easy to shoplift.

oh, you mean because it's so easy to get illegal music? well, then can I be surprised that people buy anything anymore? I mean it's so easy to shoplift.

It's just rational choice theory in action. The amount of money I save through downloading all of my music for free far far far outweights the remote risk that I'll get caught downloading the music (the vast majority of which is from independent labels). Shoplifting I do less because the risk of getting caught is greater.

oh, you mean because it's so easy to get illegal music? well, then can I be surprised that people buy anything anymore? I mean it's so easy to shoplift.

Wall Mart won't even call the police if they catch you taking less than $25 of their merchandise anymore. I'm going there tonight to stock up on free tube socks.

It's just rational choice theory in action. The amount of money I save through downloading all of my music for free far far far outweights the remote risk that I'll get caught downloading the music (the vast majority of which is from independent labels).
I guess if that's how you are going to figure out what's right and wrong there isn't much that I can do to convince you otherwise.
Wall Mart won't even call the police if they catch you taking less than $25 of their merchandise anymore. I'm going there tonight to stock up on free tube socks.

haha. nice.

It's just rational choice theory in action. The amount of money I save through downloading all of my music for free far far far outweights the remote risk that I'll get caught downloading the music (the vast majority of which is from independent labels).

It's rational as long as enough people are still buying into the system to sustain the production. If that group stops buying into the system, then it collapses and no one gets the product. You're a parasite on the system; you can make the case that there are parasites on any system and that you're just filling a natural niche, but that's what you are. And too many parasites eventually kill any organism.

I guess if that's how you are going to figure out what's right and wrong there isn't much that I can do to convince you otherwise.
I never said that's how I figure out of something is right or wrong, That's just how I figure out whether or not I do something. I don't believe in morality that holds you down anyway. :p

ok enough OT, you can go back to discussing wasting money now.

It's rational as long as enough people are still buying into the system to sustain the production. If that group stops buying into the system, then it collapses and no one gets the product. You're a parasite on the system; you can make the case that there are parasites on any system and that you're just filling a natural niche, but that's what you are. And too many parasites eventually kill any organism.

that's assuming that musicians only make music for money rather than for personal enjoyment and the enjoyment of others. Presumably most do, but I'd prefer it if all of them didn't. If anything I'm helping bring about that ideal vision.

I never said that's how I figure out of something is right or wrong, That's just how I figure out whether or not I do something. I don't believe in morality that holds you down anyway. :p

ok enough OT, you can go back to discussing wasting money now.

That's a good argument to use in court. Right up there with "I didn't know she was only twelve".

That's a good argument to use in court. Right up there with "I didn't know she was only twelve".

:rolleyes: obviously I wouldn't tell the truth in court. Unless they found this thread oh noes :eek:

EDIT: also morality != law.

A Matter of Life and Death by Iron Maiden - that should be out soon, right?
Considering I bought it on August 25 2006, the answer would be 'yes'. ;)

I am honestly shocked that people still buy music.

i like buying CD's, i download too, but i compare myself with a woman buying shoes or something, and the cover art is sometimes cool too.

that's assuming that musicians only make music for money rather than for personal enjoyment and the enjoyment of others. Presumably most do, but I'd prefer it if all of them didn't. If anything I'm helping bring about that ideal vision.

the music that I make now when I have to do 'other work' to get money is not near the quality of the music I made when my music supported me.

that's assuming that musicians only make music for money rather than for personal enjoyment and the enjoyment of others. Presumably most do, but I'd prefer it if all of them didn't. If anything I'm helping bring about that ideal vision.

It takes money to produce recordings and promote them so that others may enjoy them. I don't know if you're a musician or not--I presume not--but it's not cheap to be a musician. Why begrudge them a living? It's rare enough that a person in everyday life manages to do something he or she loves for pay. Why should artists be any different? If I could make a living from my art instead of teaching, I'd do it, even though I like my job.

I don't have any cd's on my shopping list.

Everyone always talks about the musicians losing money or the record companies losing profits, but there is much more to it than that. What about the poor bastard putting his 40 hours a week in at a factory that makes CD covers or prints the liner notes? What about the record store owners and workers? Fuck 'em? They don't need to eat? Are they supposed to download their food and rent money?

I've just discovered that there are a couple more Vernon Reid CDs out, with Masque, the group that did "Mistaken Identity." They will most likely be my next music purchase.

Everyone always talks about the musicians losing money or the record companies losing profits, but there is much more to it than that. What about the poor bastard putting his 40 hours a week in at a factory that makes CD covers or prints the liner notes? What about the record store owners and workers? Fuck 'em? They don't need to eat? Are they supposed to download their food and rent money?

I agree with the principle, but the storefront when it comes to music (and video rental, for that matter) is a dying business model. Some will shift to a boutique system, but as a mass market, we're in the period where cd stores will be a thing of the past.

For those of us who have a problem with stealing music off the internet

Wuss!

hehe

For those of us who have a problem with stealing music off the internet and actually go out and buy CDs, what's likely to be your next purchase? I'm probably going to pick up "Last Man Standing" by Jerry Lee Lewis with other artists.
Well just yesterday i purchased.
Faith No More's We Care A Lot, Angel Dust and Album of the year.
Next maybe 'Wish you were here' Pink Floyd or Atom Heart Mother.

Everyone always talks about the musicians losing money or the record companies losing profits, but there is much more to it than that. What about the poor bastard putting his 40 hours a week in at a factory that makes CD covers or prints the liner notes? What about the record store owners and workers? Fuck 'em? They don't need to eat? Are they supposed to download their food and rent money?
The 'poor bastard' doing 40 hours a week in a factory is an unskilled labourer who would almost certainly be able to find another job if the factory closes.

The record store owner will either be a good enough businessman to get the hell out of the market before it goes tits up, and be successful in a different market, or will most likely fail in any market.

The workers in the record store will have a similar ease in getting a job as the 'poor bastard' in the factory.

Not that I'm advocating downloading music because it won't matter if the bottom falls out of the physical music market. That's just silly. I'm pissed off because 3 separate independent music stores in my city have closed down in the last year, because of the presence of three major music store chains. There's only one independent store left now. To me, the bottom nearly has fallen out of the market.

Even though I have already "stolen" it via downloading I will be picking up 10,000 Days by Tool.
I regularly buy cd's that I have sampled by downloading them first.
If I like it I pay for it.
If I don't it quickly gets deleted to make room.