NationStates Jolt Archive


Most Important Modern Musicians/Bands.

Lunatic Goofballs
16-11-2006, 14:34
Who do you think has done more to shape or reshape the course of modern music over the last hundred years?

If I have to pick one person, I have to go with Little Richard.

But picking ten, they are:

1) Little Richard
2) Jimi Hendrix
3) Bob Marley
4) Hank Williams
5) Elvis Presley
6) The Beatles
7) Bob Dylan
8) Michael Jackson
9) Nirvana
10) Blondie

But not necessarily in that order. *nod*
Kanabia
16-11-2006, 14:42
Black Sabbath deserves to be on any list...
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 14:44
Who do you think has done more to shape or reshape the course of modern music over the last hundred years?

If I have to pick one person, I have to go with Little Richard.

But picking ten, they are:

1) Little Richard
2) Jimi Hendrix
3) Bob Marley
4) Hank Williams
5) Elvis Presley
6) The Beatles
7) Bob Dylan
8) Michael Jackson
9) Nirvana
10) Blondie

But not necessarily in that order. *nod*

What about Robert Johnson? or The Velvet Underground?
I V Stalin
16-11-2006, 14:44
Robert Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Johnson) - bah, beaten to it. Though I linked. :)
Brian Eno
Ian MacKaye
Lunatic Goofballs
16-11-2006, 14:46
Black Sabbath deserves to be on any list...

Oops. :(
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 14:47
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Elvis Presley
Robert Johnson
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Marley
The Velvet Underground
Black Sabbath
Marvin Gaye
Led Zeppelin


Thats my top ten anyway....
Kinda Sensible people
16-11-2006, 14:48
1. The Beattles
2. Hendrix
3. Woodie Guthrie
4. Black Sabbath
5. The Velvet Underground
6. The New York Doll
7. The Sex Pistols
8. Nirvana


That's about it. Those bands each changed the concepts driving pop music at the time they existed. They're by no means my favorite, but they each changed the world of music.
Ifreann
16-11-2006, 14:48
MC Hammer. Because http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/NuGo1988/ighzi9.gif
Lunatic Goofballs
16-11-2006, 14:49
What about Robert Johnson? or The Velvet Underground?

Stop it! I could only list ten. :(
Curantan
16-11-2006, 14:49
Agree with the suggestions... what about Brian Wilson, BB King or Neil Young?
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 14:51
Who do you think has done more to shape or reshape the course of modern music over the last hundred years?


Do they have to have changed music for the better?
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 14:51
Agree with the suggestions... what about Brian Wilson, BB King or Neil Young?

I'll second all of them
Teh_pantless_hero
16-11-2006, 14:52
Run-DMC has to be deserving of recognition.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-11-2006, 14:52
Do they have to have changed music for the better?

I deliberately did not specify that. :)
Kanabia
16-11-2006, 14:54
Stop it! I could only list ten. :(

Agree with the suggestions... what about Brian Wilson, BB King or Neil Young?

Hehe.

So, we can safely state that music is far too diverse to be pigeonholed into a select amount of artists. ;)

But what the hell, i'll throw in some more - the Pixies, the Melvins, Dead Kennedys, the Clash, R.E.M., Sonic Youth.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 14:55
Run-DMC has to be deserving of recognition.

I'd put Public Enemy and Grandmaster Flash ahead of Run DMC in importance for rap and hip hop....
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 14:57
Hehe.

So, we can safely state that music is far too diverse to be pigeonholed into a select amount of artists. ;)


If we were to make a list it should represent as many genres as possible (regardless of individual taste).
Curantan
16-11-2006, 14:58
or we could agree on 5 or 6 genres (i use the term loosely) and come up with a list of ten for each - not precluding the same artist appearing on more than one list ;)
Teh_pantless_hero
16-11-2006, 15:00
I'd put Public Enemy and Grandmaster Flash ahead of Run DMC in importance for rap and hip hop....

But Run-DMC brought rap to the fore and popularized it.
Lunatic Goofballs
16-11-2006, 15:02
But Run-DMC brought rap to the fore and popularized it.

And they also revived Aerosmith's career. *nod*
Kanabia
16-11-2006, 15:09
If we were to make a list it should represent as many genres as possible (regardless of individual taste).

Agreed. Another then - Kraftwerk.
Soviet Haaregrad
16-11-2006, 15:11
The Beatles
Pierre Schaeffer, the 'creator' of musique concrete
Kraftwerk
Teenage Jesus And The Jerks/Lydia Lunch
Black Flag
Bad Brains
Rites of Spring
Joy Division/New Order
Grandmaster Flash
NWA
Wu-Tang Clan
Black Sabbath

That's in no real order, just off the top of my head.
Gift-of-god
16-11-2006, 15:19
Tom Waits
Nomeansno
Louis Armstrong

And evil ones like David Foster and John Williams.
Peepelonia
16-11-2006, 15:20
Well I'm glad somebody said The Pixies, man don't you realise, no Pixes no Nirvana, soundgarden, or pearl jam!;)
Teh_pantless_hero
16-11-2006, 15:20
That list hurts my head.
Kanabia
16-11-2006, 15:22
man don't you realise, no Pixes no Nirvana, soundgarden, or pearl jam!

Except for the fact that Soundgarden was around before the Pixies, and Nirvana formed before they released their first album...
Jello Biafra
16-11-2006, 15:24
Teenage Jesus And The Jerks/Lydia LunchAre you sure they had a huge influence? Wouldn't Glenn Branca be a better example?

Well I'm glad somebody said The Pixies, man don't you realise, no Pixes no Nirvana, soundgarden, or pearl jam!;)That's a bit silly to say, given that Soundgarden and the Pixies debuted at around the same time.
Perhaps those bands wouldn't have sounded the same, though.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 15:27
Well I'm glad somebody said The Pixies, man don't you realise, no Pixes no Nirvana, soundgarden, or pearl jam!;)

No Velvet Underground = No Pixies = No Nirvana or Pearl Jam
Daistallia 2104
16-11-2006, 15:27
Who do you think has done more to shape or reshape the course of modern music over the last hundred years?

Heh. Nice phrasing and time frame. It's good and open.

If I have to pick one person, I have to go with Little Richard.

But picking ten, they are:

1) Little Richard
2) Jimi Hendrix
3) Bob Marley
4) Hank Williams
5) Elvis Presley
6) The Beatles
7) Bob Dylan
8) Michael Jackson
9) Nirvana
10) Blondie

But not necessarily in that order. *nod*

A pretty good listing, although it probably over emphasises the last 40 years.

Here're some of the ones I consider of great INFLUENCE, again in no particular order, and without regard to time or style, sadly (?) mostly American and popular musicians, and paring down a list that I started with about a hundred that just rolled off the brain,

Robert Johnson - Probably the single biggest influance on ALL modern popular music
Jelly Roll Morton - the birth of Jazz
W.C. Handy - Blues
Louis Armstrong - The greatest jazz man ever, with thw possible exceptiopn of...
Miles Davis - Was at the forefront of almost every wave of modern Jazz from Be-bop to Fusion
Jimmie Rodgers - the granbd daddy of Country-Western
Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein - Recreated the musical
Arnold Schönberg - orchestral art music (very tough choice there!)
Elvis - the King of Rock-and-Roll, not the first but certainly the first megastar
Cole Porter - the greatest songwriter
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 15:29
But Run-DMC brought rap to the fore and popularized it.

But Grandmaster Flash practically created the genre and made it accessible enough for Run DMC to bring it to the fore.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 15:31
Miles Davis - Was at the forefront of almost every wave of modern Jazz from Be-bop to Fusion


Miles Davis should make the list (I forgot to add him to my list:eek: ). He created modal jazz on Kind of Blue and fusion on Bitches Brew....two brilliant albums:D
Overall, he is the greatest jazz musician ever.
Fachistos
16-11-2006, 15:33
Am I not paying attention, or has Motörhead really not been mentioned yet?

and what about Marvin Gaye?
Jello Biafra
16-11-2006, 15:33
Here're some of the ones I consider of great INFLUENCE, again in no particular order, and without regard to time or style, sadly (?) mostly American and popular musicians, and paring down a list that I started with about a hundred that just rolled off the brain,

Robert Johnson - Probably the single biggest influance on ALL modern popular music
Jelly Roll Morton - the birth of Jazz
W.C. Handy - Blues
Louis Armstrong - The greatest jazz man ever, with thw possible exceptiopn of...
Miles Davis - Was at the forefront of almost every wave of modern Jazz from Be-bop to Fusion
Jimmie Rodgers - the granbd daddy of Country-Western
Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein - Recreated the musical
Arnold Schönberg - orchestral art music (very tough choice there!)
Elvis - the King of Rock-and-Roll, not the first but certainly the first megastar
Cole Porter - the greatest songwriterTsk tsk. No Bessie Smith or Billie Holiday.
:p
I V Stalin
16-11-2006, 15:34
And they also revived Aerosmith's career. *nod*
So we're definitely not including them, right? :p
Cameroi
16-11-2006, 15:38
klaus shultze (and many many others of course. dave brubeck, frank zappa, j. donald walters, to name a few. most of the real influences, well i have a horrible rotten memory when it comes to names. blind lemon pie comes to mind because spinal tap mention him. spinal tap themselves of course. ...)

mikail graham. ok jk there. sortof.
but pretty cool
and serge kozlovski

=^^=
.../\...
Lunatic Goofballs
16-11-2006, 15:42
So we're definitely not including them, right? :p

Aww, c'mon. Their non-ballads are awesome. Both of them. ;)
I V Stalin
16-11-2006, 15:45
Aww, c'mon. Their non-ballads are awesome. Both of them. ;)
Guns N' Roses > Aerosmith

I think that says all that needs to be said.
Cameroi
16-11-2006, 15:48
Guns N' Roses > Aerosmith

I think that says all that needs to be said.

g&r learned everything they know from throbbing gristle

=^^=
.../\...
Jello Biafra
16-11-2006, 15:50
I like that it's most important, as it can mean influence, but not necessarily most influential, as not all influence is equally good.

So, here's my list (in no particular order (may be subject to change)):

1) The Ramones
2) Bessie Smith
3) The Melvins
4) Throbbing Gristle
5) Big Star
6) The Velvet Underground
7) Leadbelly
8) The Runaways
9) 13th Floor Elevators
10) R.E.M.
Fachistos
16-11-2006, 16:05
I like that it's most important, as it can mean influence, but not necessarily most influential, as not all influence is equally good.

So, here's my list (in no particular order (may be subject to change)):

1) The Ramones
2) Bessie Smith
3) The Melvins
4) Throbbing Gristle
5) Big Star
6) The Velvet Underground
7) Leadbelly
8) The Runaways
9) 13th Floor Elevators
10) R.E.M.


That's a very good and accurate list! All those artists have been truly influential and inspirational, in one way or another.
Daistallia 2104
16-11-2006, 16:09
Miles Davis should make the list (I forgot to add him to my list:eek: ). He created modal jazz on Kind of Blue and fusion on Bitches Brew....two brilliant albums:D
Overall, he is the greatest jazz musician ever.

In the top three for sure - I'd be horribly pressed to coose between him, Louis Armstrong and Jell Roll for influence.

Tsk tsk. No Bessie Smith or Billie Holiday.
:p

I cut my first list of about 40 to 10, otherwise several others, including Bessie and Billie (and a bunch more including the Ramones, The Sex Pistols, Run DMC, NWA, Johnny Cash, John Cage, the Doors, Buddy Holly, and Mahalia Jackson would have made it.)
Teh_pantless_hero
16-11-2006, 16:27
But Grandmaster Flash practically created the genre and made it accessible enough for Run DMC to bring it to the fore.
But it would still be underground if not for Run-DMC.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 16:41
But it would still be underground if not for Run-DMC.

Very good point but it would might not have existed had it not been for Grandmaster Flash.
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 17:20
But it would still be underground if not for Run-DMC.

One of those little ironies in rock is that the Clash were playing rap and hip-hop years before Run DMC.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:24
One of those little ironies in rock is that the Clash were playing rap and hip-hop years before Run DMC.

Another one is that one of the first "rap" songs was Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan, if you count speaking in time with the rhythmn of the song as "rap".
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 17:26
Another one is that one of the first "rap" songs was Subterranean Homesick Blues by Bob Dylan, if you count speaking in time with the rhythmn of the song as "rap".

I'd argue with that: SHB is just another example in a long long line of talking blues, somewhat faster than the norm, but not excessively or groundbreakingly so though. Look at Woody Guthrie for obvious examples, and so-obvious-it-need-not-be-stated influence on Dylan.
Teh_pantless_hero
16-11-2006, 17:31
Very good point but it would might not have existed had it not been for Grandmaster Flash.

On what do you base that?

And what about Ray Charles, no one is mentioning him, I got the idea he was pretty important.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:33
I'd argue with that: SHB is just another example in a long long line of talking blues, somewhat faster than the norm, but not excessively or groundbreakingly so though. Look at Woody Guthrie for obvious examples, and so-obvious-it-need-not-be-stated influence on Dylan.

I suppose but I'd have to say that talking blues is a huge influence over rap. Either way it is ironic that the technique of "rapping" originated in blues and folk songs.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:36
On what do you base that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandmaster_Flash

Grandmaster Flash was doing what Run DMC did 3 or 4 years before Run DMC did it.
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 17:37
Either way it is ironic that the technique of "rapping" originated in blues and folk songs.

I fail to see the irony. We can trace rock, punk, metal, soul, funk, rap and hip-hop all back to the blues. Jazz seems to be the stand out example, having diverged from the blues/ragtime tradition much earlier than the others.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:38
And what about Ray Charles, no one is mentioning him, I got the idea he was pretty important.

Ray Charles is also incredibly important. Also no-one has yet mentioned The Yardbirds, Phil Spector, Chuck Berry or Sam Cooke.
Teh_pantless_hero
16-11-2006, 17:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandmaster_Flash

Grandmaster Flash was doing what Run DMC did 3 or 4 years before Run DMC did it.

That didn't mean it wasn't developed independently because obviously Flash developed it. I can't find any information on Grandmaster Flash influencing Jam Master Jay.
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 17:40
Ray Charles is also incredibly important. Also no-one has yet mentioned The Yardbirds, Phil Spector, Chuck Berry or Sam Cooke.

Ike Turner? Rocket '88
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:41
I fail to see the irony. We can trace rock, punk, metal, soul, funk, rap and hip-hop all back to the blues. Jazz seems to be the stand out example, having diverged from the blues/ragtime tradition much earlier than the others.

The only reason I see this as ironic is the fact that Hip-Hop and Rap on a whole seem to dismiss the blues whilst many other genres revel in their blues-origins. Also on a different note, seeing as ragtime is an inspiration for the Blues, shouldn't Scott Joplin make an all time greatest list?
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:42
That didn't mean it wasn't developed independently because obviously Flash developed it. I can't find any information on Grandmaster Flash influencing Jam Master Jay.

Either way, both artists are incredibly important for the developementy of hip hop along with other artists such as Public Enemy, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Dr. Dre and Eminem.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 17:43
Also no-one has yet mentioned The Smiths.
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 17:45
Also no-one has yet mentioned The Smiths.

Possibly something to do with the fact that they were a b-rate skiffle band fronted by a pompous one-joke hack.
Pax dei
16-11-2006, 17:55
Does Gershwin count???
The blessed Chris
16-11-2006, 18:04
Much as I hate to say it, Blink-182 may well become one of the most important in the next decade, a new Nirvana as it were....:(
LiberationFrequency
16-11-2006, 18:14
Much as I hate to say it, Blink-182 may well become one of the most important in the next decade, a new Nirvana as it were....:(

What? They broke up ages ago and formed other shitty bands. Are you talking about greenday?
The blessed Chris
16-11-2006, 18:16
What? They broke up ages ago and formed other shitty bands. Are you talking about greenday?

I hope not. At least Blink had their moments.

My point is that if one looks at current musical trends, the "pop-punk" employed by Blink is present in both "alternative" scenes, and, in the form of
McFly, Busted and others, popular music.
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 18:22
I hope not. At least Blink had their moments.

My point is that if one looks at current musical trends, the "pop-punk" employed by Blink is present in both "alternative" scenes, and, in the form of
McFly, Busted and others, popular music.

I think the Ramones or Screeching Weasel are more likely candidates for influence.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 18:23
Possibly something to do with the fact that they were a b-rate skiffle band fronted by a pompous one-joke hack.

But they have influenced almost every British Act since.
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 18:25
But they have influenced almost every British Act since.

Such as whom? They certainly influenced people to start bands, but I can think of few examples of bands directly musically influenced by them.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 18:28
Such as whom? They certainly influenced people to start bands, but I can think of few examples of bands directly musically influenced by them.

The Britpop movement? They were one of the key post punk bands which lead to the rise of bands such as Radiohead, Oasis, The Verve and Blur.
Daistallia 2104
16-11-2006, 18:30
Does Gershwin count???

Abso-fracking-lootly!

The Gershwins are on the 40-50 short list. (Maybe I'll put it all up tomorrow. It won't include Greenday or Blink. :mad:)
Bodies Without Organs
16-11-2006, 18:33
The Britpop movement? They were one of the key post punk bands which lead to the rise of bands such as Radiohead, Oasis, The Verve and Blur.

Call me dense, but I see no real musical influence of the Smiths on said bands. Sure there were a crop of ill-defined and ill-remembered jangly bands trying to be the Smiths in the late '80s, but no one of any real note.
Purple Android
16-11-2006, 18:34
Call me dense, but I see no real musical influence of the Smiths on said bands. Sure there were a crop of ill-defined and ill-remembered jangly bands trying to be the Smiths in the late '80s, but no one of any real note.

They are seen in Britain as one of our greatest bands and are a huge influence on our music scene.
Hydesland
16-11-2006, 18:46
In no order:

Miles Davis: started Beebop (sp?) and cool jazz

Pythagorus (yep, the greek mathematician): created the idea of western major and minor type of scales.

Beethoven: First person to make bending the rules a little, more popular.

Little Walter, Rice Miller etc...: Influential blues musicians.

Buddy Holly/ Elvis: One of the first people to make blues popular among the whites as well as black people and made it become more accepted as a whole. Gave inspiration to many rockabilly bands, including The Beatles.

The Beatles: Trend setters for many many different styles of music, had a huge effect on the demographic. They were also amazing

Cream/ Led Zeppelin: Creators of classic hard rock and influenced many bands. They also really rocked.

Jimmy Hendrix: Made the guitar ten times cooler, amazing musician.

P - Funk Bands (Funkadellic etc...): Started the whole funk craze and influenced most of the hip hop in the 80s and early 90s.

Queen: Originators of hair metal (damn them) but were an amazing band.

Sex Pistols/ The Clash/ The Ramones etc... : Pinoneers of Punk!

Happy Mondays/ Stone Roses: Manchester scene!! (yeah they arn't that important)

Blur/Oasis: Trend setters of brit pop and indie.#

I'm sure there are much more important people then this, but I can't remember.
Extreme Ironing
16-11-2006, 18:52
I will stick to classical composers as I know much more about it than more popular styles:

1. Arnold Schoenberg
2. Igor Stravinsky
3. Claude Debussy
4. Richard Strauss
5. John Cage
6. Olivier Messiaen
7. Alban Berg
8. Bela Bartok
9. Dmitri Shostakovich
10. Karlheinz Stockhausen

10 is such a small number to name...
Jello Biafra
16-11-2006, 21:09
The Britpop movement? They were one of the key post punk bands which lead to the rise of bands such as Radiohead, Oasis, The Verve and Blur.Are you sure the Cure weren't a bigger influence here?
Allers
16-11-2006, 21:10
Are you sure the Cure weren't a bigger influence here?
crazy cavan,
Akiranium
16-11-2006, 21:13
The Britpop movement? They were one of the key post punk bands which lead to the rise of bands such as Radiohead, Oasis, The Verve and Blur.
I'd say Joy Division were far more of an influence on those bands (apart from the Verve - who are they?) than the Smiths.
I V Stalin
16-11-2006, 21:35
They are seen in Britain as one of our greatest bands and are a huge influence on our music scene.
In Manchester, maybe. The rest of the country has moved on from that sort of tripe.
LiberationFrequency
16-11-2006, 21:43
In Manchester, maybe. The rest of the country has moved on from that sort of tripe.

Sadly no, lots of sad boring indie bands still produce it.
Hallucinogenic Tonic
16-11-2006, 23:19
I'm going to nominate each artist on the presumption that they invented, influenced/contributed to heavily, or revived a particular genre/sub genre of music! The list will probably exceed the maximum of 10, therefore, I apologize in advance!

Rock

Elvis Presley
Led Zeppelin (Hard Rock)
Pink Floyd (Psychedelic/Space)
Alice Cooper (Theatrical)
Black Sabbath (Doom)
Venom (Black)
Sex Pistols (Punk)
Metallica (Thrash/Speed)
Death (Death)
Beastie Boys (Rap Metal)

Guitar

Chuck Berry
Jimi Hendrix
Stevie Ray Vaughan

Rap/Hip Hop

Run DMC
The 2 Live Crew
N.W.A

Country

Hank Williams
George Jones
The Eagles (Country Rock)

Folk Rock/Lyrics

Bob Dylan
Neil Young

R&B/Soul

Ray Charles
James Brown
Marvin Gaye

Reggae/Political

Bob Marley
Rage Against the Machine...I'll be stoned to death for this entry, I just know it!!!

Pop

Michael Jackson
The Stray Cats...I know they probably don't belong here but I didn't know where else to put em'!!!

Blues

Muddy Waters
Stevie Ray Vaughan

I could go on and on and on and on but, I'm getting tired and everyone undoubtedly catches my drift so, I'll be going now! :cool:
Bodies Without Organs
17-11-2006, 02:56
In no order:

Buddy Holly/ Elvis: One of the first people to make blues popular among the whites as well as black people and made it become more accepted as a whole. Gave inspiration to many rockabilly bands, including The Beatles.



Your basically saying that Elvis (who didn't write any of his own songs) is more important than Ike Turner (who wrote the first rock and roll song) just because Elvis was white?
Daistallia 2104
17-11-2006, 04:30
Hmmm.... I posited this question to my little bro, the music professsor, and here was his response:

Always nervous about such lists. They tend to be
created just so folks can argue over who SHOULD have
been on the list but wasn't.
I would be more inclined to think of axes of artists
who directly influenced one another and what those
axes were. For example, to leave off the John
Lennon/Paul McCartney/Brian Wilson/ Phil Specter bunch
ignores probably the most innovative axis of popular
music ever (I think of the axis as a group of
musicians/producers, etc who keep looking at eachother
and saying "That's amazing! Well watch what I can
do!") In general, I'm more inclined to look beyond a
single face and look at circles of artists. No one
creates in a vacuum.
Same with jazz. Charlie Parker/Dizzy
Gillespie/Miles/(eventually) Coltrane, plus all of the
rhythm sections they played with are cells that cannot
justifiably be divorced from one another. The only
reason one artist stands out is press. Zappa was fond
of pointing that out.
Stravinsky and Scoenberg lived across town from one
another in LA. Who's to say who was more influential?
I couldn't.
Can you leave John Cage out? I don't know.

Rogers & H - maybe reshaped the musical, but so did
A.L. Webber, saving it from extinction. So, who gets
on the list?

Still, it's fun to go over a list and see who and why.

We can trace rock, punk, metal, soul, funk, rap and hip-hop all back to the blues. Jazz seems to be the stand out example, having diverged from the blues/ragtime tradition much earlier than the others.

Indeed, indeed. Which is why my list was so Blues and Jazz heavy.

And don't forget that the blues was also very influental on various styles that makeup Country-Western.
Bodies Without Organs
17-11-2006, 04:34
And don't forget that the blues was also very influental on various styles that makeup Country-Western.

These days I'm finding myself more and more drawn towards the other strand that had a bastard child with the blues to create that abomination we all know and love - old-time/hillbilly/american 'traditional'/gospel music.
Harlesburg
17-11-2006, 09:59
Black Sabbath
The Beatles
The Monkees
Micheal Jackson
Elvis
Pink Floyd
Led Zepplin
Bruce Springlesiten
Bob Dylan
The Moe Syzlak experience featuring Homer.
Boonytopia
17-11-2006, 11:13
My first thought was Robert Johnson, he (according to legend) made that funky deal with the devil. I was beaten to it by few people though.
Daistallia 2104
17-11-2006, 16:07
These days I'm finding myself more and more drawn towards the other strand that had a bastard child with the blues to create that abomination we all know and love - old-time/hillbilly/american 'traditional'/gospel music.

Doc Watson, Jean Ritchie, Huddie Ledbetter, the Carter family, and the like?
Purple Android
17-11-2006, 16:29
Black Sabbath
The Beatles
The Monkees
Micheal Jackson
Elvis
Pink Floyd
Led Zepplin
Bruce Springlesiten
Bob Dylan
The Moe Syzlak experience featuring Homer.

The Monkees? I hope that was a joke :p
Daistallia 2104
17-11-2006, 16:37
The Monkees? I hope that was a joke :p

Well I can at least see the influence of the Monkees on the industry. Better than "Led Zepplin, Bruce Springlesiten, ... and The Moe Syzlak experience featuring Homer."

(Yeah, Harlesburg, sorry to kick you in the spelling nads...)
Bodies Without Organs
17-11-2006, 16:38
Doc Watson, Jean Ritchie, Huddie Ledbetter, the Carter family, and the like?

Aye, that kind of thing. Can't forget Doc Boggs either. All the kind of thing that the Lomaxes were lucky enough to manage to get the tail end of down on tape before it went through dramatic changes with the spread of mass media into rural areas. (not that I believe that spread alone was the single case of the decline of that kind of music, not do I believe that it was an authentic reflection of the music of thirty or forty or a hundred years before, but hey, y'know?)


...and certainly there are many who are keeping that tradition alive, but there an equal amount who claim to be doing so, but are instead serving up a quite ersatz product.
Purple Android
17-11-2006, 17:08
Well I can at least see the influence of the Monkees on the industry. Better than "Led Zepplin, Bruce Springlesiten."

(Yeah, Harlesburg, sorry to kick you in the spelling nads...)

The Monkees were just a poor early-Beatles copycat band. The Beatles did what they did 100 times better and then went on to better things.

Led Zeppelin and Bruce Springsteen have had huge influence on the music industry....does Led Zeppelin being one of the pioneers of hard rock and Bruce Springsteen being possibly the greatest lyricist of his generation count as influential? Yes it does.
Bodies Without Organs
17-11-2006, 18:00
The Monkees were just a poor early-Beatles copycat band. The Beatles did what they did 100 times better and then went on to better things.

Up for discussion - what is not up for discussion is that the Monkees were the first major manufactured group, and as such have been a marketing model for countless manufactured acts or groups ever since.
Curantan
17-11-2006, 18:04
Yes, the comment was about their influence on the industry, not on music itself.
Purple Android
17-11-2006, 20:47
Up for discussion - what is not up for discussion is that the Monkees were the first major manufactured group, and as such have been a marketing model for countless manufactured acts or groups ever since.

Good point....they did change the industry, but musically they were nothing special.
Goudonia
17-11-2006, 21:23
I have to disagree with an earlier post. Stevie Ray Vaughan (SRV) has had little influence on music due to his early death and lack of popularity, outside the blues. Not saying SRV is a bad musician, he's possibly my favourite, but he is unknown by many people, and has had a far smaller impression than guitarists/blues musicians like Peter Green or BB King. Anyway my top 10.

Leo Fender & (whatshisface) Les Paul- Although they didn't effect it by their musical skills they've had an unquestionnably large effect on all music.

Jim Marshall- Like Fender and Les Paul

Elvis- Made Rock'n'Roll popular, and his style is present in all rock artists since.

B.B.King- Directly or indirectly influenced every current blues artist and his guitar style is present in most lead guitarists styles (especially in the blues).

Hendrix/Clapton- These three made the lead guitar what it is today, neither was more influencial than the other.

Black Sabbath- Started heavy metal which lead to modern metal music and heavy rock.

The Who- Effected music alot and the main influence for Punk.

Run DMC/Other rap or hip hop artist who started the genre- Don't know who started this but whoever this was.

Led Zeppelin- Had a massive influence on music.

Deep Purple (Rainbow, Whitesnake, Dio and Gillan)- Huge influence on modern music (look at any rock or guitar compilation CD and you'll find a song by one or two of the bands which rooted from Richie Blackmore and Ian Gillan.

Any band or artist more recent than this cannot be said to have a big or small effect, because we cannot look back and see which music dies and which survives and evolves.
Jello Biafra
17-11-2006, 21:26
Any band or artist more recent than this cannot be said to have a big or small effect, because we cannot look back and see which music dies and which survives and evolves.You can measure the effect in other ways; for instance, people mentioned the Monkees had influence because of the effect they had on the industry as opposed to their music itself.
Hydesland
17-11-2006, 21:26
Your basically saying that Elvis (who didn't write any of his own songs) is more important than Ike Turner (who wrote the first rock and roll song) just because Elvis was white?

Ike Turner however, didn't put rock and roll into the mainstream however, like Elvis did.
Nadkor
17-11-2006, 21:59
Going very recently, and possibly mainly in the British scene, The Libertines.

Every new British band that comes out seems to sound like a take on The Libertines, so they could end up being very influential.

And that's not a good thing.
Curious Inquiry
17-11-2006, 22:56
Sorry to come so late to the thread, but has anyone mentioned
Living Colour?
Potarius
17-11-2006, 23:05
...and Bruce Springsteen being possibly the greatest lyricist of his generation count as influential? Yes it does.

Excuse me, but that's absolute rubbish. Springsteen has nothing on John Lydon, Neil Peart, Michael Stipe, and Bob Mould, as far as lyrics are concerned.
Ravea
18-11-2006, 00:12
This is pretty much only for the Jazz world.

1. Miles Davis
2. Charlie Parker
3. Thelonious Monk
4. Herbie Hancock
5. Dizzy Gillespi
6. John Coltrane
7. Jaco Pastorius
8. Charles Mingus
9. Count Basie
10. Duke Ellington

And for the rest of the world, the B-52's, Nena, and A-Ha.
Harlesburg
18-11-2006, 12:20
The Monkees? I hope that was a joke :p
I didn't say i liked them
Well I can at least see the influence of the Monkees on the industry. Better than "Led Zepplin, Bruce Springlesiten, ... and The Moe Syzlak experience featuring Homer."

(Yeah, Harlesburg, sorry to kick you in the spelling nads...)
Hey give me a break, the time was somewhere between 8 and 10pm at night!:p
*Sulks*
Rubiconic Crossings
18-11-2006, 12:52
But Run-DMC brought rap to the fore and popularized it.

Actually that would be the Sugarhill Gang with Rappers Delight in 1979...