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If Adolf Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler)was running against Fred Phelps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)for president of the US, who would you vote for?
Conditions:
There are no third party candidates.
There is no write in slot.
You can not vote, but don't post saying you would do that please, it kinda defeats the point of all this.

Phelps. At least he's not a genocidal, warmongering maniac.

Edit: And Phelps would be much easier to overthrow. :p

Adolf. At least he had spiffy uniforms and had a penchant for Wagnerian melodrama.

I'd take comfort in being genocided/euthanised in style.

I'd just kill myself. Jesus Christ the thought makes me shiver.

phelps, he wouldn't last one second in office.

Adolf. Because he's already dead so he would be much easier to usurp.

Phelps. At least he's not a genocidal, warmongering maniac.

Edit: And Phelps would be much easier to overthrow. :p

I agree :D

If Adolf Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler)was running against Fred Phelps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)for president of the US, who would you vote for?
Conditions:
There are no third party candidates.
There is no write in slot.
You can not vote, but don't post saying you would do that please, it kinda defeats the point of all this.

A world with Fred Phelps at the helm would not be un monde sans danger, but unfortunately I'd have to vote for him before I'd vote for Adolf Hitler. At least Phelps is just crazy. Hitler was crazy AND commited mass genocide. He is, pure and simple, the most evil man to ever exist, if one wishes to look at it as evil, of course, as opposed to simply a rather black shade of grey.

I'd vote for Adolf Hitler over Phelps any day.

Ugh.... hard to say. Phelps I suppose. He is noted for only hating one minority, while Hitler hates and has tried to kill that minority and a few others. Phelps is probably the lesser of 2 evils. Not only that, but I could see people liking Hitler a lot more than I can see them liking Phelps which is frightening in its own way.

Well... who's less likely to take my weed away?

uh...I'd vote for Hitler. Chances are, as long as you do what he says, he'll let you keep your weed.

there's alot to consider... I mean, What if Phelp's VP was GW Bush. and Hitler's VP was Saddam...


and the speaker of the house was Bill O'Rilley...


I mean... considering all that...

Adolf was also in a position of power. Fred Phelps is obviously not. Now, lets take a time machine, and lets have them switch spots. Which is worse now?

Ug, I want to see the results, but can't decide who to vote for, shit Philips if only because he probably wouldn't have Hitler's damn luck at avoiding assassination.

Well... who's less likely to take my weed away?

uh...I'd vote for Hitler. Chances are, as long as you do what he says, he'll let you keep your weed.
I doubt it. He was for the creation of his great and glorious people. He would not likely want you impurifying them with weed and send you off to a camp.

there's alot to consider... I mean, What if Phelp's VP was GW Bush. and Hitler's VP was Saddam...


and the speaker of the house was Bill O'Rilley...


I mean... considering all that...
Such a world does exist, in some reality. I suspect that either the equivelent persona to myself in that reality is dead through one method or another, or is a loyal follower of either Phelps or Hitler. :eek:

I doubt it. He was for the creation of his great and glorious people. He would not likely want you impurifying them with weed and send you off to a camp.

Damnit.

Fine, then.... uh... I vote to live in my smouldering crater and pretend that the election never happened, all while plotting my way to the top...

A world with Fred Phelps at the helm would not be un monde sans danger, but unfortunately I'd have to vote for him before I'd vote for Adolf Hitler. At least Phelps is just crazy. Hitler was crazy AND commited mass genocide. He is, pure and simple, the most evil man to ever exist, if one wishes to look at it as evil, of course, as opposed to simply a rather black shade of grey.

Well, that's just because Phelps hasn't had the opportunity.
Trust me, given the opportunity, he would kill even MORE people then Hitler did.
Probably in a more despicable way, too.

Adolf was also in a position of power. Fred Phelps is obviously not. Now, lets take a time machine, and lets have them switch spots. Which is worse now?
Probably still Adolf because he has political skills. Phelps is right now alienating people, he would not have power in the presidency and just be an annoyance more than anything else. Hitler could probably make our government and our society fall into his views, he would make us more proud of who we are than we have been in many years but destroy everything we ever stood for.

Well, that's just because Phelps hasn't had the opportunity.
Trust me, given the opportunity, he would kill even MORE people then Hitler did.
Probably in a more despicable way, too.
Yes, but Phelps would alienate people very quickly. He does not have the political skill that Hitler does and when Phelps loses his political capital he will not be able to do anything. Phelps could never get his opportunity while in the presidency, Hitler could probably deal with congress and popular opinion.

Ugh.... hard to say. Phelps I suppose. He is noted for only hating one minority, while Hitler hates and has tried to kill that minority and a few others. Phelps is probably the lesser of 2 evils. Not only that, but I could see people liking Hitler a lot more than I can see them liking Phelps which is frightening in its own way.

Phelps also hates every religion that he doesn't belong to.
And he's a racist.

Yes, but Phelps would alienate people very quickly. He does not have the political skill that Hitler does and when Phelps loses his political capital he will not be able to do anything. Phelps could never get his opportunity while in the presidency, Hitler could probably deal with congress and popular opinion.

True, Hitler was better at getting people to do these kinds of things.
But Phelps is a preacher, remember. It's his JOB to convince people that his made up shit is the Divine Word Of God.

Phelps also hates every religion that he doesn't belong to.
And he's a racist.
True, I guess I focused more on what he is known for. My statement might be similar to me saying that Hitler only killed Jews. I haven't heard about Phelps hating other races though, not that such wouldn't be a surprise. He did though praise Castro and praise Saddam, so he doesn't hate all non-whites which is the norm for racism.

True, Hitler was better at getting people to do these kinds of things.
But Phelps is a preacher, remember. It's his JOB to convince people that his made up shit is the Divine Word Of God.
Yeah, and he doesn't convince ANYONE, and EVERYONE hates him. 80% or more of Phelps's congregation is related to him by blood or marriage, that does not sound like somebody who is convincing, and he is seen as so outrageously ridiculous that many think he is just a charicature of hard-right christianity more than a practitioner because he discredits his own position more than he convinces anyone.

Phelps, because he would probably dissolve his own government.

I could pass off as aryan....but I definitely couldn't pass off as Christian.

Hmmm.

I volunteer to be a suicide bomber. :)

I could pass off as aryan....but I definitely couldn't pass off as Christian.

Hmmm.

I volunteer to be a suicide bomber. :)
Not even the Fred Phelps kind?? Just repeat my words, "Jesus is good and God hates fags". That is all you have to do. I mean, come on, do you think that you need to know the bible? Please...:rolleyes:

Not even the Fred Phelps kind?? Just repeat my words, "Jesus is good and God hates fags". That is all you have to do. I mean, come on, do you think that you need to know the bible? Please...:rolleyes:

My cock is uncut. :P

Because Phelps lacks charisma, and would be toast in a week, I choose Phelps.

Anything is better than their current president (thank goodness for term restrictions) but I don't know if having a corpse as president would be very sensible.

Thus, Phelps gets my vote. The world would overthrow him anyway if he got out of line. :D

Realistically? Hitler's dead and Phelps is pushing it.

If the choice were between those two assholes in their prime? Let's see...

Hitler's record: Came to power in some really muddy circumstances. Didn't get along with the Chancellor and is lucky he didn't get fired like the rest of the Chancellors. No Reichstag fire and no Nazis propping him up, and Hitler becomes a footnote in history, Hindenburg goes after the Kaiser's kid or someone, and Germany's Communist by the end of the decade. Oh yeah, and he offed 12 million people in the Holocaust, proved himself to be less trustworthy than Stalin (how the fuck do you do that, anyway?) and he did something really colossally stupid - he invaded Russia and wasn't prepared for the winter. If not for how bad the Red Army sucked, the Nazis would have been dogmeat in a year and we could all point and laugh at what a fuckhead Hitler was before he had the chance to accelerate the Nazi killing machine.

Phelps' record: Has a church out in Topeka, KS that's allegedly Baptist. Uses what appears to be some kind of mind control technique on his followers. He praised 9/11, cheered the 2004 tsunami, and laughed at New Orleans in August 2005. He pickets military funerals due to an insane logical leap and was actually planning to picket an Amish funeral. He claimed the Amish children shot by that whack job deserved to die...or at least his daughter did and we're left to believe that he agrees. He makes Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson look like bleeding-heart liberals (again, how the fuck do you do that?)

Tale of the Tape:

Hitler: Failed to learn from Napoleon.
Phelps: Failed to learn from Senator McCarthy.

Hitler: Made Stalin look like a good guy.
Phelps: Made Falwell look like a liberal.

Hitler: Used oratory skills to wow the people.
Phelps: Used bull-headed closed-mindedness to shot people down.

Hitler: Defended by many Americans and Europeans.
Phelps: Defended by the ACLU.

Hitler: People who weren't Nazis followed him out of loyalty to Germany.
Phelps: People who aren't Baptist think he's an idiot. So do many who are.

Hitler: Hated Jews, but also got his kicks persecuting Communists, gays, people with funny religions, and those in unfortunate circumstances
Phelps: Hates gays, but surely wouldn't have a problem persecuting Communists, Jews, people with funny religions, and those in unfortunate circumstances

Hitler: Childless as far as I know. Phelps would likely use that information to accuse him of being gay.
Phelps: Has at least one daughter. Fortunately for that daughter, she and her idiot father could double-team Hitler in a debate, or she could just go in his place. There's no Claudia Hitler-Weiss or anyone to contend with.

Conclusion: I'd probably flee the country. And, assuming that naturalized U.S. citizens could run for President, Hitler would win going away.

Adolf. Because he's already dead so he would be much easier to usurp.

Exactly. Always vote for the dead guy.

If Adolf Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler)was running against Fred Phelps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)for president of the US, who would you vote for?
Conditions:
There are no third party candidates.
There is no write in slot.
You can not vote, but don't post saying you would do that please, it kinda defeats the point of all this.

I'm forgetting about voting at that point and starting a violent revolution.

See, at least with Hitler, we'd be motivated to do evil, and not feel bad about it.
Phelps, well, it'd just be sad.

Oh yeah, and if Hitler didn't win. Phelps would be gone within a month and Hitler would be in power anyway, you can't beat Hitler at politics.

Exactly. Always vote for the dead guy.

Sadly, that means the dead guy will end up in some other position of extreme importance. Although it isn't like Americans are all that hung up on voting for corpses...imagine if there were more corpses in Congress. No pork-barrels would be passed, and those who believe "That government is best which governs least" would be happy as clams.

Adolf:
Dead.
Not stupid, just insane.

Phelps:
Kicking, barely.
Not genocidal, yet.


My vote: Write "Mr. T" on the ballot and flee the country.

No question, AH all the way. These days you cannot get half the US population to agree with the other half on the colour of grass, so Hitler is not gonna be able to get away with his more extreme measures. Hitler was a melgomaniacal nut who had skills in diplomacy and organization while Phelps is just a melgomaniacal nut. Yep, in that race you could see me out there singing Amerika Uber Alles. I am sure Phelps would get about half the vote anyway because the other half was supporting Hitler, but that's just the way US politics seems to be running these days.