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Just found this little snippet. It's quite a horror story, actually...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,448350,00.html
"When I got out of the plane in Greensboro in the US state of North Carolina, I would never have expected my host family to welcome me at the airport, wielding a Bible, and saying, 'Child, our Lord sent you half-way around the world to bring you to us.' At that moment I just wanted to turn round and run back to the plane.

I wonder whether there is any way to make sure your host family isn't a bunch of whackos, before you actually have to go and live with them.

Just found this little snippet. It's quite a horror story, actually...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,448350,00.html


I wonder whether there is any way to make sure your host family isn't a bunch of whackos, before you actually have to go and live with them.

GREENSBORO? I live like 4 hours away from there! :eek:

Just found this little snippet. It's quite a horror story, actually...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,448350,00.html


I wonder whether there is any way to make sure your host family isn't a bunch of whackos, before you actually have to go and live with them.

poor guy

As an american involved with the AFS intercultural exchange (hosting and exchange student from Hong Kong right now) I'd like to say that this happens a frightening amount.
We ourselves didn't even get background-checked until about two weeks ago (we've had our exchange student for about 2 months).
I've heard horror stories about kids getting stuck with highly superstious and religious families when they themselves are of the athiest/agnostic variety.
Usually kids can transfer families, though.

Whats odd is these religious/superstious families choose these more "centered" kids - you get a profile of a bunch of kids and you chose one.

I don't know how he coped with that for 4 months, I would have had a massive arguement way before that. Expecally when they insulted him and his mom.

After reading that, I can understand why people can hate Americans. Between the images of being fat, uncaring, greedy bastards, and being religious wackos, it's a hard image to shake at time.

And heh, a baptist church in Poland. That's comic gold. Hell, a baptist church anywhere but the US would be funny as hell to see.

Alright, I hate Baptists. In my area we don't have the same Baptists as they do in the south, but they are the most whiney, self-indulgent people I know(Lutherans a close second! Zing!), and after going to a few masses(Not sure what they call it, but I was raised Catholic, and refer to it as Mass), I realized they were only try to convince themselves that they believed what they said, really. Like trying to convince oneself of a lie(Not saying God is a lie here, just making an analogy).

Makes me wonder why my Dad(whom is from a very Catholic family-My Grandmother is an Italian immigrant) converted at times.

Anywho, that's off topic. Hopefully this dude realizes that not all Americans are crazed wackos.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

You're crazy.

Whats odd is these religious/superstious families choose these more "centered" kids - you get a profile of a bunch of kids and you chose one.

Not really, if you understand the overly religious. They are looking to convert people to the "true faith" or whatnot. They likely feel that by doing so it will guarentee them God's Glory or whatnot.

Wow...I cant even imagine putting up with something like that. Also, the fact that they had chosen him in the first place just so they could turn him into one of them...frightening.

You're crazy.

Sanity is simply a matter of perspective. Who's to say we're not all a little crazy? Who?! Hahahaha!

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

I can only hope you're being sarcastic there...

And coming to a new country to live with religious wackos is not a good thing at all.

And there's far too many Baptist churches in Africa, to whom it may concern.

Sanity is simply a matter of perspective.

No, sanity is a matter of objective fact.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

Yeah, you're obviously not a fundie, despite what you say.

The fact is, these people clearly had alterior motives for providing thier home(Converting a "heathen" or whatever you want to call it), obviously didn't respect the kid, his family, or his way of life.

What "demons" were plaguing his heart, might I ask? Drinking? Drinking is only "bad" in the United States, really. Almost everywhere else is socially acceptable, and the problems are not nearly as prevalent they exist in America, for the most part.

Really now, you can do better than that.

I don't know how he coped with that for 4 months, I would have had a massive arguement way before that.

My exact thought.

I think it would have broken down before the end of the first week, had I been him.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

Yay! You've finally moved from trollish posts to comedy posts. This one could have come from DCD himself, well done man. We need more of the funny on this board.

Wow...I cant even imagine putting up with something like that. Also, the fact that they had chosen him in the first place just so they could turn him into one of them...frightening.

I'd last a day before I start peppering my room with material such as "The Origin of Species", the "Communist Manifesto", and "My Two Daddies". If they started bitching me out or whatnot, I'd immediately request a transfer.

I don't know how he coped with that for 4 months, I would have had a massive arguement way before that. Expecally when they insulted him and his mom.

If they'd tried to wake me up at 6:15 am on a Sunday, I'd show them Bush's one-finger victory salute.

I can only hope you're being sarcastic there...


Nah. He's trolling for attention. He'll probably be able to hijack the thread by posting increasingly stupid remarks.

My exact thought.

I think it would have broken down before the end of the first week, had I been him.

Yeah after the first few weeks I might have become a bit more extreme, like gone and bought the satanic bible.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

Right. So if an atheist family took you in an demanded that you become a tradtional atheist like them, you would think it was just them looking out for the freedom of your soul?

And coming to a new country to live with religious wackos is not a good thing at all.

Religious wackos? That's what they get for trying to cleanse a sinner's soul of the evil? For attempting to purge all the maleficence out of a poor boy? For striving to deliver a misguided soul to redemption? They should be lauded in their attempts, not deterred. They were trying to instill some good moral values in a nihilistic child when the moral fiber of our communities are being torn asunder by sex, drugs, and violence. I congratulate them.

I'd last a day before I start peppering my room with material such as "The Origin of Species", the "Communist Manifesto", and "My Two Daddies". If they started bitching me out or whatnot, I'd immediately request a transfer.

I'd've immediately downloaded Kazaa Lite Resurrection, gotten some Sex Pistols, and blasted them out over the speakers as loudly as possible, screaming along with Mr. Rotten's lovely lyrics.

"I am an antichrist! I am an anarchist!"

That would be some seriously funny shit.

Religious wackos? That's what they get for trying to cleanse a sinner's soul of the evil? For attempting to purge all the maleficence out of a poor boy? For striving to deliver a misguided soul to redemption? They should be lauded in their attempts, not deterred. They were trying to instill some good moral values in a nihilistic child when the moral fiber of our communities are being torn asunder by sex, drugs, and violence. I congratulate them.

Very funny, Means. The kid's Polish. One Polish kid will not destroy all of America's communities. :)

What is it they say? "Don't Feed the Troll"?

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/Flaw3dLegacy/troll2.jpg

I've just been waiting for an opportunity to post that. I made it myself. *smug*

Right. So if an atheist family took you in an demanded that you become a tradtional atheist like them, you would think it was just them looking out for the freedom of your soul?

I am an atheist.

Yeah after the first few weeks I might have become a bit more extreme, like gone and bought the satanic bible.

I would have borrowed my friend's Wicca necklace and all my Harry Potter books. Then I would tell them all about my husbands and wives on NS. ;)

I'd last a day before I start peppering my room with material such as "The Origin of Species", the "Communist Manifesto", and "My Two Daddies". If they started bitching me out or whatnot, I'd immediately request a transfer.

Not nessecary, drop a single "Hussler" and you'll have them allowing you a request an hour into the home.

I am an atheist.

So your previous posts were jokes?

Religious wackos? That's what they get for trying to cleanse a sinner's soul of the evil? For attempting to purge all the maleficence out of a poor boy? For striving to deliver a misguided soul to redemption? They should be lauded in their attempts, not deterred. They were trying to instill some good moral values in a nihilistic child when the moral fiber of our communities are being torn asunder by sex, drugs, and violence. I congratulate them.

Well, no they weren't. They wanted him to become exactly like them. He wasn't a sinner, at least as far as the information in the article tells, he didn't do drugs, or had bad moral values.

These WACKOS didn't agree with thing he did, and immediately branded him a sinner, without actually thinking.

Not nessecary, drop a single "Hussler" and you'll have them allowing you a request an hour into the home.

Why settle for "Hustler"?

Acquire some gay pornography, and go for the double.

I am an atheist.

Then why are you all for this?

Accually I take that back, I'd rather not become troll bait.

I am an atheist.

You seem to be a bit to fundie to be an atheist.

Why settle for "Hustler"?

Acquire some gay pornography, and go for the double.

Good idea. I'd get on the computer and pull up a gay porn site and "accidentally" let them see it.

Not that I know of any gay porn sites, I just know that it's VERY easy to access porn on teh web by accident :eek:

I am an atheist.

Atheists make Bush cry.

One day I was talking to my host parents about my mother, who is separated from my father. They were appalled -- my mother's heart was just as possessed by the devil as mine, they exclaimed. God wanted her to stay with her husband, they said.

"God's will"

Then, seeing as we were already on the topic of God's will, the religious zealots finally brought up a subject which had clearly been on their minds for a long time: They wanted me to help them set up a Fundamentalist Baptist church in my home country of Poland. It was God's will, they said. They tried to slip the topic casually into conversation, but it really shocked me -- I realized that was the only reason they had welcomed me into their family.

There's a difference between wanting to help others because you're a Christian, and wanting to convert them to your pure way of lifestyle. In fact, this was neither - it was a buncha hypocritical Christians whose main goal was to start churches in Poland. By calling some kid's mother "possessed" by the "devil."

Good idea. I'd get on the computer and pull up a gay porn site and "accidentally" let them see it.

Not that I know of any gay porn sites, I just know that it's VERY easy to access porn on teh web by accident :eek:

Riiiiiiight. *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some kindly, beneficent parents wanted to make sure that a misguided teen was delivered safely from all the demons which were plaguing his hearts and his sins which would later come back to haunt him. They gave him a home and love for half a year, and he has the nerve to complain! The ingratitude is astounding -- he does not respect the truly altruistic people who took him in but instead slandered them. What he did is disgusting -- it revolts me.

You do realize that they wanted this person mainly to help with translating stuff and other things to establish a church in Poland - at least according to the article...

Atheists make Bush cry.

Asexual marriage makes Bush cry.

However, it makes me happy to see that we are in such an advanced time where asexuals can marry freely. *sniff*

Why settle for "Hustler"?

Acquire some gay pornography, and go for the double.

There ya go! And to go up even higher, get it on DVD with their video rental card and watch it on their TV in front of the whole family! Not only that, let your gaze rest on the family pet just a little too long and often.

There ya go! And to go up even higher, get it on DVD with their video rental card and watch it on their TV in front of the whole family! Not only that, let your gaze rest on the family pet just a little too long and often.

...while stroking yourself openly.

You seem to be a bit to fundie to be an atheist.

Truth is I've never met a neo-con who wasnt athiest. Plenty of trad-cons, but most neo-cons seem to despise the presence of anyone who might be watching them or holding them accountable for the way they act.

Wow, shit.

He had to put up with fundies for six months.

I'd go crazy.

And they wanted him just for their own base ends.

Riiiiiiight. *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*

I really don't know of any. I can't name any sites because I don't know any. :rolleyes:

Though... I have more ideas.

If I were this guy, I would borrow my friend's Wicca necklace, read all my Harry Potter books aloud, tell them about my 14 husbands and wives, pull up gay porn immages if I could find any, wear all black, vote Democrat, and draw pictures of stickfigures getting stabbed/shot/nuked/whatever during the church service. Then when they tell me I've got the Devil in my heart, my reply would be "The Devil is my ho."

Well if any family was this extreme I would just walk out no matter what they thought with that said what they did was sick

And RealAmerica was much better than MTAE!

...while stroking yourself openly.

Hey now, the idea is to get them to get you out of the house, not to get them to die of heart-attacks. Im not sure their fundie sensibilities could handle that sort of thing.

Wow, shit.

He had to put up with fundies for six months.

I'd go crazy.

And they wanted him just for their own base ends.

I'd have WAAYYYY too much fun.

Hey now, the idea is to get them to get you out of the house, not to get them to die of heart-attacks. Im not sure their fundie sensibilities could handle that sort of thing.

But getting kicked out is only half teh fun! :(

So your previous posts were jokes?

No; while I do not believe in God, I think those religious folk were doing an excellent job. The two are not mutually exclusive ideas.

No; while I do not believe in God, I think those religious folk were doing an excellent job. The two are not mutually exclusive ideas.

They couldhave been much nicer.

I am an atheist.

So you think its fine for these people to force their views onto a captive audience, then?

Actually those fundies behavior is quite acceptable. Dont forget the poor people havent had sex in somewhere around seventeen years. Anyone of us would be a bitter hardass at that point. I really want to see transcripts of some of those "sex talks" though, I can only imagine what they were like.

Hey now, the idea is to get them to get you out of the house, not to get them to die of heart-attacks. Im not sure their fundie sensibilities could handle that sort of thing.

But its the best way to get moved, plus who's going to miss a few fundies?

But its the best way to get moved, plus who's going to miss a few fundies?
Other fundies. They're all controlled by a single consciousness, you know.

Other fundies. They're all controlled by a single consciousness, you know.

what, like ants? or like the bugs from Starship troopers?

Actually those fundies behavior is quite acceptable. Dont forget the poor people havent had sex in somewhere around seventeen years. Anyone of us would be a bitter hardass at that point. I really want to see transcripts of some of those "sex talks" though, I can only imagine what they were like.

Yikes. Does Jesus approve of that? :eek:

Yikes. Does Jesus approve of that? :eek:

I think even those of Jesus' day, the ones who hadnt sworn themselves to celibacy, would have thought no sex in 17 years a foolish concept. Doesnt the old testament say it's a mans duty to pleasure his wife and vice versa?

what, like ants? or like the bugs from Starship troopers?
Like the Borg, except more unpleasant.

I think even those of Jesus' day, the ones who hadnt sworn themselves to celibacy, would have thought no sex in 17 years a foolish concept. Doesnt the old testament say it's a mans duty to pleasure his wife and vice versa?

Errr... I don't know enough bout teh Bible to know. But SEVENTEEN YEARS?! :eek:

Just found this little snippet. It's quite a horror story, actually...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,448350,00.html


I wonder whether there is any way to make sure your host family isn't a bunch of whackos, before you actually have to go and live with them.

Thats one of the more disgusting things I have heard today

Like the Borg, except more unpleasant.

Resistance is futile, lower for logic shields and prepare to be assimalated. Your theories and individual distinciveness will not be added to our own.

Resistance is futile, lower for logic shields and prepare to be assimalated. Your theories and individual distinciveness will not be added to our own.

:p

Resistance is futile, lower for logic shields and prepare to be assimalated. Your theories and individual distinciveness will not be added to our own.

Hey, that sounds like my dad!

So you think its fine for these people to force their views onto a captive audience, then?

They were only enforcing morality, not any overly religious ideas. They were expunging the wickedness from the boy's soul, not trying to mold him into Jesus.

Hey, that sounds like my dad!

That sounds like every Baptist church I've ever gone too!

Errr... I don't know enough bout teh Bible to know. But SEVENTEEN YEARS?! :eek:

Rather strange they didn't adhear to the "Be fruitful and multiply" part. Heh.

Oh well, everybody interprets the bible different, and many people forget parts of the bible that they find unpleasant.

Such as the "Judge not lest ye be judged" or "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

But meh, fundies don't like to be forgiving. They are really only Christians in name, usually

That sounds like every Baptist church I've ever gone too!

My dad was raised Southern Baptist in Houston from 1950 all the way through 1970 *SHUDDERSHUDDERSHUDDER*. Oddly enough, I wasn't circumcised or baptised, nor have I ever been to church. On top of that, I speak with a Northern accent (yay!). Yeah, I must be the chosen one. :p

In my experiences with religious types, I've always gotten along very easily with Catholics. Overall, they seem to have good dispositions and personalities. Baptists are an entirely different story. Some are good, but most of them are downright nuts.

They were only enforcing morality, not any overly religious ideas. They were expunging the wickedness from the boy's soul, not trying to mold him into Jesus.

Bullcrap. They were preaching to a captive audience. That's abusive and unfair. I don't give a fuck what they would call it.

My dad was raised Southern Baptist in Houston from 1950 all the way through 1970 *SHUDDERSHUDDERSHUDDER*. Oddly enough, I wasn't circumcised or baptised, nor have I ever been to church. On top of that, I speak with a Northern accent (yay!). Yeah, I must be the chosen one. :p

You are the Chosen One! Come to Minnesota, the Holy Land, at once! From there, we shall set out upon bringing the true word to the people!

*worships*


In my experiences with religious types, I've always gotten along very easily with Catholics. Overall, they seem to have good dispositions and personalities. Baptists are an entirely different story. Some are good, but most of them are downright nuts.

I found that out as well. Through my experiences, it is broken down as thus(In my area of Minnesota):

Baptists: Annoying, trying to convince themselves.
Lutherans: Go to Church, think they are better than you, big partiers(and "sinners" if you will) though.
Non-Denominational: Crazy, singing/dancing/crying people, whom I shall never go to another service/youth group again due to getting the bejesus scared out of me.
Catholic: At least somewhat sensible most of the time, don't general condemn others, traditional mass, allows the individual to interpret the Bible(Even the Non-Denoms were screaming at me when I disagreed on what a certain part of the Bible means), and is generally far more accepting and forgiving towards certain lifestyles that differ from theirs. The Church is a money-whore, though. :/

Of course, I could be bias due to my Catholic upbringing, but I find Catholicism far more pleasant than the others in my area.

Bullcrap. They were preaching to a captive audience.

A captive audience? If that ungrateful bastard didn't like it, he could have gone and lived out on the street for all I would have cared. Instead, he opted to gorge on the kindliness of the family who helped him, frittering away their wealth, only to turn around and back-stab them the moment he arrived back in Poland. He's sick and nihilistic -- he did not deserve to have such caring people looking after him and trying to remedy his sinful ways. He should be ashamed of himself for his disgraceful behavior and lack of conscience. I laud the family for trying to instill some moral values in an obvious lost cause; they stoop up against the impossible -- it was a daunting task which they were not able to overcome, but not for lack of diligence or a lack of faith. That child was just too detached from any moral values to be saved.

They were only enforcing morality, not any overly religious ideas. They were expunging the wickedness from the boy's soul, not trying to mold him into Jesus.

Since when is drinking wickedness?

Having my current situation being that I live with a fundie Christian mother (who would gladly sacrifice me or my sisters if she was offering us to Christ); and an Atheist father (who believes in Nietzsche's view in "God is dead") I can say I fell sooo sorry for this guy.

Having one fundie in the house in bad enough, but to have two under one roof...good sweet zombie viking Jesus!

Since when is drinking wickedness?

Yeah, even Jesus turned water to wine and said at the last supper that the wine shall be his blood or something simliar.

that poor guy! i don't know what i'd have done, probably got drunk and shouted at them a lot. and then left with their car to go for a trip.

If they'd tried to wake me up at 6:15 am on a Sunday, I'd show them Bush's one-finger victory salute.

Aside the fact that I wake up 'round there anyway...

AS MANY FINGERS AS I COULD.

And maybe a few choice wods in there.

Aside the fact that I wake up 'round there anyway...

AS MANY FINGERS AS I COULD.

And maybe a few choice wods in there.

Cool 'wods' are they worse than words? ;)

Wow, that is just nuts....

Cool 'wods' are they worse than words? ;)
They sound to me like clumps of wet dirt.

Since when is drinking wickedness?

It'll give you a wicked headache.

I'd have arranged for a transfer within a week or less.

Wow....as an agnostic i would have been crazy, its a shame some people are like this and not understanding of what other people believe (yes there are other people in the world) and this is simply appauling. I love how nieve and oblivious to the rest of the world americans are, especially bible pushers.:confused: