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He went against his party on one of the most important issues of our time, lost the primary, ran anyway, and did the divide-and-conquer thing -- with substantial support from state Republicans.

Now, the so-called "Democrat-in-name-only" is mulling a switch to the Republican Party, telling Tim Russert of Meet the Press, "I’m not ruling it out, but I hope I don’t get to that point." Such a switch would, of course, hand the Senate to the GOP, and be a sharp rebuke to the Democrats that refused to support his pro-war stance.

Do you think ol' Joe would ever switch allegiances? Would you support such a change?

EDIT: Link to transcript of the interview (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637887/page/3/)

Yes, he WILL switch parties. It's only a matter of time... (gut intuition)

I had an exam yesterday early in the morning. I got up at about 5am, and they show American TV for some reason here that early.

Meet the Press was on, with Lieberman. He said he wanted to be known as an "I/D", and "Independent Democrat". Apparently there have been some before.

I think he quite likes himself in that light, so he'll probably stay that way. Which shouldn't stop him voting against Democrat party line if he feels like it. I mean, most of his votes came from Republicans, if I recall correctly.

I doubt it. That kind of switch could cost you a lot, especially since his ties are with the Democratic party, especially on social issues. He'd lose a lot of his fund-raising base, his activist supporters, and he would have to rebuild many of those ties within the Republican party, which might end up being more difficult because social issues tend to be more divisive within that party especially when so much of the base is of a decidedly conservative social stance.

I would not support him doing this, because the Senate needs independents to weaken the two parties and prevent them from having a true majority over the other.

Do it, Do it, DO IT! :D

I betcha the Republican National Committee already has an office with engraved name reserved for him.

I'd kind of like him to stay independent because as far as I'm concerned, Congress needs more centrists like him. I'm kind of the Republican counterpart to someone like him--very conservative on economic and foreign relations issues, but more liberal on some social issues (but not all). It's irritating that we're stuck with this crappy 2-party system in this country, because people like Lieberman get punished for trying to work out a compromise.

Of course, I'd welcome him to the Republican party because God knows they need to pull back towards the center a bit, but I hope he can stay on his own for awhile. It's better that he can't be forced by either party to do what they want.

I would have thought that he would lose. It really came as a suprise to me when he won by such a large margin, but I supported any break from the two-party system that would happen.

I personally doubt that he will switch. His independent status means that he has the potential to be cuddled by both sides for votes on certain issues. To switch to republican would not be a loss to the party that has already forsaken him, he votes how he will anyway.

I live in Connecticut, and I say maybe.
It would piss off lots of voters, and while we have a larger than normal proportion of Independents, it'd be a hard fight to get elected as a Republican Senator.
Then again, the GOP candidates have been so weak for over a generation (typically getting 10% or so) that it would breathe new live in the party.

I would have thought that he would lose. It really came as a suprise to me when he won by such a large margin, but I supported any break from the two-party system that would happen.
Lieberman won for two reasons:

- The Democratic Party was split between him and Lamont

- The Republican Party dumped their candidate in favor of him. Seriously, he got about 70% of the state GOP vote. The GOP candidate got 10%.

Well Lieberman is an asshole, and this is something assholes do so maybe. His people have a history of lies and deciet, so I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't want him in my party. We have enough goddamn social babysitters. He would be the worst kind of Republican...socially conservative but economically liberal. Keep him away from the Republican Party!

Well Lieberman is an asshole, and this is something assholes do so maybe. His people have a history of lies and deciet, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Hey what can you do? It comes with the turf. It'd be amusing if Lieberman flew solo, though.

His people have a history of lies and deciet, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Let's keep this civilized, okay? (If you're saying what I think you're saying).

Well Lieberman is an asshole, and this is something assholes do so maybe. His people have a history of lies and deciet, so I wouldn't be surprised.

I hope you mean the people of Connecticut.

Let's keep this civilized, okay? (If you're saying what I think you're saying).

You got that vibe too, eh?

I hope you mean the people of Connecticut.
Everybody know those damned Connecticutites (Connecticutians? Connecticutters? :confused: ) have caused all the wars in the world.

Let's keep this civilized, okay? (If you're saying what I think you're saying).

:confused: What do you think I'm saying?

:confused: What do you think I'm saying?

Honestly, i thought you meant the Jews, but then again , i guess you could mean politicians as well.

:confused: What do you think I'm saying?

Something about a certain "chosen people"...

I hope you mean the people of Connecticut.

Ah, no. Soviestan's a well-known anti-semite.

Ah, no. Soviestan's a well-known anti-semite.


I'm trying to be positive here. :)

Ah, no. Soviestan's a well-known anti-semite.

:rolleyes: I was talking about asshole politicans. But if you want to call me a Nazi again, go for it if it makes you feel better. The fact he's a jew had nothing to do with my post.

Everybody know those damned Connecticutites (Connecticutians? Connecticutters? :confused: ) have caused all the wars in the world.

I hate when I see something like this, I just have to look it up or I won't sleep tonight.

According to Webster's New International Dictionary, 1993, a person who is a native or resident of Connecticut is a "Connecticuter". There are numerous other terms coined in print, but not in use, such as: "Connecticotian" - Cotton Mather in 1702. "Connecticutensian" - Samuel Peters in 1781. "Nutmegger" is sometimes used. It is derived from the nickname, the Nutmeg State, based on the practice of the Connecticut peddlers who traveled about selling nutmegs, possibly fake ones as a scam. There is not, however, any nickname that has been officially adopted by the State for its residents.[8]

:rolleyes: I was talking about asshole politicans. But if you want to call me a Nazi again, go for it if it makes you feel better. The fact he's a jew had nothing to do with my post.

Lemme guess, you got the politician bit from what I said, right? ;)

Well Lieberman is an asshole, and this is something assholes do so maybe. His people have a history of lies and deciet, so I wouldn't be surprised.

:rolleyes: I was talking about asshole politicans. But if you want to call me a Nazi again, go for it if it makes you feel better. The fact he's a jew had nothing to do with my post.

Considering your history, I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Considering your history, I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt.

whatever, you can think what you want about me. I know what I meant.

Do it, Do it, DO IT! :D

He won't do it.:D

He won't do it.:D

I know, but it would be so funny if he did.

Can you say I told you so!

Yes, ladies and gents, sore-Loserman is selling out and oing over to the party he's belonged to since 2003. The (I/D) actually stood for in denial.

But that's ok, since his campaign still hasn't explained what happened to more than 100,000 dollars that left their accounts in October. I wonder who the new Senator from Connecticut will be when Holy-Joe gets hit with corruption charges.

The concept is not will he join one party or another the concept is which party he will caucus with and continue to caucus with. It seemed clear reading the interview that given a set of circumstances that he would caucus with the Repubs. That the dems continue on thier path from the last six years, and that he retains his senority with the Repubs. then basically he will switch. I have worked in the political arena for over a decade and I knew from Wensday morning on that the new power in the senate isn't Harry Reid it is Joe Leiberman.

He's a politician, he's never going to say absolutely not to anything that might even POSSIBLY happen.

However shove this in the "highly unlikely" catagory. But as a senior politician he's not going to say "no" to anything.

Ask him if he might consider joining with satan and he'd probably say "well, hypothetically, if certain things were to happen..."

I'm a connecticut resident, and I don't think he'll switch. It would cost him too much.

I'm a connecticut resident, and I don't think he'll switch. It would cost him too much.

how do you feel about living in such a small state? I mean you and RI dont even take up half of my county. Have you thought about just becoming a part of Mass.?

Other: He has already done it. He is a republican in all but name.

Well Lieberman is an asshole, and this is something assholes do so maybe. His people have a history of lies and deciet, so I wouldn't be surprised.
I hope you mean the people of Connecticut.
I'm a connecticut resident, and I don't think he'll switch. It would cost him too much.
Have you thought about just becoming a part of Mass.?

That's it! Soviestan is an anti-Connecticutter (thanks, Wallonochia) and is trying to usurp control of the state! :eek:

Lollercausts all around.

how do you feel about living in such a small state? I mean you and RI dont even take up half of my county. Have you thought about just becoming a part of Mass.?

I like it just fine in CT, thank you.

Although my brother and sister both are in Boston, so I might follow them there.

That's it! Soviestan is an anti-Connecticutter (thanks, Wallonochia) and is trying to usurp control of the state! :eek:

Lollercausts all around.

He's probably in league with those dastardly Pennsylvanians, wanting to start another Yankee-Pennamite War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennamite_Wars

I like it just fine in CT, thank you.

Although my brother and sister both are in Boston, so I might follow them there.seems to be a trend for CTers (I'm from CT, school in Boston...my sister did the same)

He's probably in league with those dastardly Pennsylvanians, wanting to start another Yankee-Pennamite War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennamite_Wars

Forget that, how about THIS ongoing war?/ (http://www.pennsicwar.org/)

SEN. LIEBERMAN: I will caucus with the Democrats. I said that to my constituents throughout. I’m going to caucus with the Democrats both because it’s good for my constituents in Connecticut, because I retained my seniority, I become a committee chair, but also I want to continue to work to bring the party back to its historic traditions of, of strength on national security, foreign policy and innovation, and progress in domestic policy—the, the Harry Truman/John F. Kennedy Democrat that, that I was raised to be.




As much as he should bend the democrats over and give them the " whats for "

He won't ...because he represnts those that voted him into office as a Independent and they are not all republicans or democrats.

If he Screws his base of democrats in his home state he will be seving his last term in all likely hood.

he's in a perfect position of power as it is...he alone can break any bill the Democrtas care to put into play...or he can vote with the republicanss and get any bill they like into play.

Whats he need to do but stock up on Kleenex to wipe all the stuff off his butt from all the kissing that will be taking place.:D

Lieberman's as likely to jump ship as Snowe is.

Whats he need to do but stock up on Kleenex to wipe all the stuff off his butt from all the kissing that will be taking place.:D

Frankly, the Rethuglicans can have him. If Holy-Joe wants people to come around and kiss his ass, he can find a new party to be part of. I don't want him, I didn't want him, and if he wants to sell-out, then bully for him, we're well rid of the (In/Denial) Senator from Connecticut.

Do you think ol' Joe would ever switch allegiances? Would you support such a change?

I have no doubt that he would switch sides if he thought he could get away with it and still get reelected.

He can't, so he won't.

I hope you mean the people of Connecticut.

I have a history of lies and deceit? *looks back at the destroyed lives in my wake* My god, it's true! I'm a horrible person! :eek:


...taco anyone? :)