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From a thread that was a spin off of my thread, me and Athesais 101 (sp) got into a debate about protecting your loved ones, family and friends. Well, that debate inspired me to present NSG with a list of possible situation and see what y'all would do in such situations. My answer is in bold.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Eh do nothing really, if it's just a petty insult then I really don't need to acknowledge it. It's just some guy trying to get a rise out of us, and to respond would just give him what he wants.

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

If I'm there, then eh I would yank his shirt collar, pull him close to my face and tell him that I find such acts unacceptable and that he should apologize to my girlfriend, and if he didn't I would call the police. If I am not there, and it happened like at her workplace, I would tell her to go to her supervisor about it.

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Punch the guy in the stomach, knee him in the face and subdue him, then take his car keys and tell my girlfriend to call the police.

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Tell my wife to call the police, pull out my 9mm, run after the guy and shoot him until he gives up. If child is in the way, I keep running after him but with my gun ready just in case I can get a clear shot.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Go and have a talk with him, get in my shots, and then call police.

6. Your partner has been raped.

call police, my girlfriend/wife will need me more in this situation.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Get my 12 gauge shotgun ready, tell my wife to get the .22 semi automatic ready and to call the police, go and search the house to see where they are at. If they see me, show them that I have 12 gauge shotgun and if they don't run off, fire.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Look out the window to see if I can see him, if I do, call the police and fire off a shot with the .22 semi automatic.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

shoot him with 9mm and call police.

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Kiss my ass goodbye and make love to my girlfriend/wife one more time.

Now it's time for you people to take the test!

Too lazy to handle each one individually. Most of them look like they can be solved with a simple headbut to the kidneys, but some of the more extreme ones (like the last one) may require the use of a lead pipe.

Is this just a thread where you masturbate over fantasies of shooting people?

Is this just a thread where you masturbate over fantasies of shooting people?

No, I'm just interested in seeing what people would do in certain situations. I don't really consider cops as "protectors", mainly because they arrive too damn late! In my mind, they're only the clean up people, you know take notes, get evidences, statements etc. Why wait around 30-45 minutes for the police when you can stop the situation now?

No, I'm just interested in seeing what people would do in certain situations.

All the stuff about the police is basically irrevelant. The more important point is that it's real easy to make up situations where one plays the valiant hero who never gets hurt (especially when the audience is one's wife/girlfriend/etc.). Unfortunately, like the movies, this is mostly fantasy; as such, it shouldn't be that strange if some fail to see the point of the exercise. :)

No, I'm just interested in seeing what people would do in certain situations. I don't really consider cops as "protectors", mainly because they arrive too damn late! In my mind, they're only the clean up people, you know take notes, get evidences, statements etc. Why wait around 30-45 minutes for the police when you can stop the situation now?

Because it takes things out of proportion and is really rather dangerous. If someone tries to rob you, shooting them isn't the answer, especially if you are not in immediate physical danger. The contents of your wallet are not worth a human life. In particular, the contents of your wallet are not worth putting your life in danger. Punishment is left to the judiciary. It isn't your place to decide that 'someone needed killin'' if you can safely resolve a situation without the use of violence.

If, on the other hand, someone is about to attack me with say, a broken bottle, rather than just demanding cash...that's an immediate threat to myself and I would feel the use of physical force is justified in protecting myself. I find the "suspicious person on the property" example especially over the top in this regard, since you aren't in any immediate physical threat. If someone is looking into your windows, do they deserve to be shot?



Tell my wife to call the police, pull out my 9mm, run after the guy and shoot him until he gives up. If child is in the way, I keep running after him but with my gun ready just in case I can get a clear shot.

I loved that one too. My feelings about "Shooting someone until they give up" in front of children aside, even policemen and soldiers won't let off a shot if there's a child present, especially while running and the target is moving - do you think you're Rambo or something? That's being rather callous with regard to the safety of your child, I think, and i'm rather certain the law would agree.

For most of these instances I start with the word "Fuck" and play it by ear from there.

Because it takes things out of proportion and is really rather dangerous. If someone tries to rob you, shooting them isn't the answer, especially if you are not in immediate physical danger. The contents of your wallet are not worth a human life. In particular, the contents of your wallet are not worth putting your life in danger. Punishment is left to the judiciary.

Yes but it's my money, my property the guy has no right to demand something that is not his. Since it's my property I have the right to self defense under NC law.


If, on the other hand, someone is about to attack me with say, a broken bottle, rather than just demanding cash...that's an immediate threat to myself and I would feel the use of physical force is justified in protecting myself. I find the "suspicious person on the property" example especially over the top in this regard, since you aren't in any immediate physical threat. If someone is looking into your windows, do they deserve to be shot?

Yes, because why don't they just knock, why sneak around my property. If a person is sneaking around my property and he doesn't approach the door to knock, and I don't recognize him, then I need to take steps to defend my house and family against a possible intruder.


I loved that one too. My feelings about "Shooting someone until they give up" in front of children aside, even policemen and soldiers won't let off a shot if there's a child present, especially while running and the target is moving - do you think you're Rambo or something? That's being rather callous with regard to the safety of your child, I think, and i'm rather certain the law would agree.

That why I said that if I couldn't get a clear shot, or be sure that no one else would be in danger, then I wouldn't shoot. If that is the case, then I will keep running after him just to keep up with him and make sure that he doesn't harm my child.

shoot him until he gives up.

When you shoot people they generally either die, go into shock, or flip out, depending on the severity of the wound and the person. From my experience in Iraq the first two are far more common, but the third one is exactly why you don't shoot to wound.

When you shoot people they generally either die, go into shock, or flip out, depending on the severity of the wound and the person. From my experience in Iraq the first two are far more common, but the third one is exactly why you don't shoot to wound.

If I am sure that the situation is perfect so that I can shoot him and won't harm my child or anyone else, I will shoot to kill. I know that I may take a human life, but I've accepted that and I am willing to go that far to protect my children.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.
nothing


2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Lets just say it involves a baseball bat

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

again with the baseball bat

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.
run after and catch them. And then again with the baseball bat

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

it involves a .38 and a pissed off father, take a guess.

6. Your partner has been raped.

same as above, except sub partner for father

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.
basically the same thing, it will involve a 12 gauge

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.
go talk to him, share some lemonade, and perhaps shoot him.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

shoot him with 9mm and call police, hey that works



10. The current President has started a Nuclear War
smoke some weed, and get right with God

1. Tell him to go jack off alone in his room, insulting his very existance on this earth.

2. Grab him by the neck, and tell him if I ever see him again, I will rip his larnyx out.

3. Punch him in the face, call the cops.

4. Chase him down and beat the ever living shit out him. As his is trying to run off with my kids, he would be weighed down a bit, and not as able to run as well as I. I wouldn't dare use a weapon, as it would put my children in risk(if I had them).

5. Call the cops and hope to all hell they get to em before I do.

6. Same as above.

7. Have my partner call the cops, grab the nearest thing resembling a weapon, and search the house as quietly as possible for hte person.

8. Grab a weapon, have someone call the police, go outside and tell whomever it is that if they do not get off my property, I will come in swinging/shooting.

9. Depends on how they are robbing me. If they have a gun, give them what they want, get as much of a description as I can, and call the police aftewards. If a knife, give them a swift kick in the kneecap, and a foot to the face. Then call the police. Same applies with no weapon.

10. Go to my cabin in the middle of nowhere, with as many friends and loved ones as I can muster, and hope to live it out.

If I am sure that the situation is perfect so that I can shoot him and won't harm my child or anyone else, I will shoot to kill. I know that I may take a human life, but I've accepted that and I am willing to go that far to protect my children.

Killing another human being is something that should only be done if you're absolutely certain that it's the last resort you have to protect the life of you or someone else. It bothers me tremendously when people say they'd kill for property. A human life is worth far more than some stupid shit I bought at Walmart even if that human life is that of a thieving asshole.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Ignore

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

They can handle it

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Ask what he did to deserve it

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Follow him, yelling for help if I catch him do what I can to seperate him and my child

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

call police get a shrink and doctor for my kid.

6. Your partner has been raped.

call police/doctor

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

warn my family, hide in the attack and call police

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Check that they don't try and break into my parents car

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Give him what he wants

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

get popcorn and watch people debate it on NSG of course


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I replied to this before; but it seems Jolt ate it.


Yes but it's my money, my property the guy has no right to demand something that is not his. Since it's my property I have the right to self defense under NC law.

No, he doesn't have the right to do so. But you don't have the right to put a life at risk here either. Your property is petty in comparison with a human life. Period. Unless your own life can be clearly demonstrated to be at risk you don't have the right to kill someone. If they want you to hand over your wallet, the risk of an outcome injurious to life is vastly lessened if you comply.


Yes, because why don't they just knock, why sneak around my property. If a person is sneaking around my property and he doesn't approach the door to knock, and I don't recognize him, then I need to take steps to defend my house and family against a possible intruder.

That's the job of the police; and last I heard, they generally don't summarily execute people for the crime of trespassing in any Western country. If they haven't broken into your house and started waving a gun around threatening to kill someone, no, you don't have the right to shoot them. There's no immediate threat in this situation. There's a potential one, but one that can most likely be averted without violence.


That why I said that if I couldn't get a clear shot, or be sure that no one else would be in danger, then I wouldn't shoot. If that is the case, then I will keep running after him just to keep up with him and make sure that he doesn't harm my child.

Nobody on earth could guarantee with 100% certainty that they can hit a moving target whilst chasing after it. It's too great a risk in this situation. I think you'd have to stick to running and getting passers-by to help.

The insulting boyfriend ones: let him handle it and not get involved.

The endangering self ones: self-defense

The endangering family ones: proceed with caution and possibly call the police

The raping of the boyfriend: O.o As unlikely as that is...help him get through the tough time, I guess...

The nuke war: besides the fact that my country has no president nor nuclear weapons, IF the US was to start a nuke war, do all the things on my to-do list before I die.

See a shrink as I am single.

That's the job of the police; and last I heard, they generally don't summarily execute people for the crime of trespassing in any Western country. If they haven't broken into your house and started waving a gun around threatening to kill someone, no, you don't have the right to shoot them. There's no immediate threat in this situation. There's a potential one, but one that can most likely be averted without violence.

In Texas it's legal to shoot trespassers after dark, but that's Texas.

Property owners and their agents (for example, security guards) may only use reasonable force to protect their property. For example, setting booby traps on a property to hurt trespassers or shooting at trespassers are usually strictly forbidden except in extreme circumstances. A notable exception is the U.S. state of Texas, where it is legal to use deadly force against trespassers after dark

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Try and continue what ever we are doing, the whole situation seems unlikely though.

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Wouldn't care.

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Break his arm

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Break both his arms 'subduing' him(or her)

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

That shit doesn't happen...

6. Your partner has been raped.

Call Police

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Smash them with one of my old Cricket Bats

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Enquire as to what they are doing...

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Don't get robbed.

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Try and get on NS.

In Texas it's legal to shoot trespassers after dark, but that's Texas.

Y'know, that's funny, because my original post (the one that got purged, or didn't go through, or something) said something like "I doubt it's legal to shoot trespassers in the USA...well, maybe in Texas."

:D

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Point and laugh at them

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Slap theirs

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Kick to the groin or shot to the gut

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

I don't have kids, but if I did, I guess run after them yelling for help. If I caught them, the kidnapper would get an ass kicking

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Depends what kind of authority. If it's a police officer, I guess I'd have to give them the nail bat. If some other authority, I guess I call the police and get counseling for my non-existant kid

6. Your partner has been raped.

Call Police. If they don't get him, then he gets the nail bat.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

grab nail bat, see if the person has a gun. If not, chase them out of the house with nail bat. If they are in possession of a firearm, call the police.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

call the police, take pictures.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Give them the two bucks or so that are in my duct tape wallet. Then call police when I get home.

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

go to lake tahoe.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Depends what kind of authority. If it's a police officer, I guess I'd have to give them the nail bat. If some other authority, I guess I call the police and get counseling for my non-existant kid

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You could call the police in both situations. Its not like you're gonna get the exact same guy on the phone if you call them

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her. Depends on the circumstances. I'd probably let my partner handle it2. Someone slaps your partner ass's. Again it depends on the situation. I'd probably let my partner handle it.3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark. I'd crack the wanker's head open.4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off. I'd do whatever it took to get my kid back. 5. A person with authority molest or rape your child. I'd kidnap the sorry fuck & make it my bitch. Then I'd probably kill it.6. Your partner has been raped. Same as above.7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps. I'd arm myself, get family/friends out of harms way & go have a chat with the thief. If the situation could be resolved peacefully, it would be.8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property. I'd go have a talk with the person.9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you. I'd pacify the fucker & find out why. 10. The current President has started a Nuclear War I'd pack my towel & head off for greener pastures.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.
Either nothing, or say some smartass retort, depending on the insult.

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.
Possessively take him out of range of the flirty interloper. And, try to determine whether the slapper knows him or is just some drunk woman. If she does know him, be suspicious and investigate just what made her feel okay with being so forward... (If a guy does the slapping, watch and see the reaction!)

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.
Sit back and watch him kick some ass!

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.
Me?! Have brats?! Wa ha ha that'll be a cold day in... Well, in the interest of this hypothetical scenario...

I can't run worth shit, or aim a gun any better. That leaves a car chase. And calling the police on my cell as I go after the creep.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Something would "just happen" to kill the perv...something Reasonably Doubtful to have resulted from my action...

6. Your partner has been raped.
Same as above.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.
I'd sit in front of the computer listening, and then laugh and be thankful at the same time, when I heard the idiot fall backwards down the outside stairs (banging hard into every step) after tripping on some junk out there that can't be seen in the dark (this actually happened)!

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.
Start blasting my car horn via the remote until several neighbors have been woken up and the jerk goes away (this has happened too).

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.
Depends. If the assailant's unarmed, tell him to STFU! If he/she is armed, it depends on whether I think I can win anyway. If I think I could win, but that I would sustain injuries in the process (for instance if the would-be robber had a knife), it'd depend on whether I was carrying enough cash to be worth the damage.

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Hope it's against some weenie country that doesn't have the ability to send its own nukes far enough to counterstrike (like N. Korea)!

If they can counterstrike, hope that their nukes don't land close enough to my area to be of any serious danger to me. (This doesn't *seem* to be a highly strategic area to target nowadays...)

And, of course, read the commentary on NSG!

Hide under a towel in all cases and masturbate.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Probably say nothing and/or kick that nut in tha NUTS!

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Call police, whaddaya THINK?

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Subdue him, ask him why, if he does'nt respond, call police.

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Chase after the guy, and BEAT HIM TO DEATH! THAT'S WHATCHA GET FOO', FOR TRYING TO TAKE MAH KID!!!!!!!

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Punch his face, say i'll never trust him again, and call the police.

6. Your partner has been raped.

Call the cops, whaddaya THINK?

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Wake up family, arm with weapons, have one person call police.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Freak out, and confront the person with a handgun/machete combination.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Hurt him the best I could and run to tell someone!

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Play video games until I get bombed.

From a thread that was a spin off of my thread, me and Athesais 101 (sp) got into a debate about protecting your loved ones, family and friends. Well, that debate inspired me to present NSG with a list of possible situation and see what y'all would do in such situations. My answer is in bold.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Shoot him

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Shoot him

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Shoot him

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Shoot him

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Shoot him

6. Your partner has been raped.

Shoot him

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Shoot him

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Shoot him

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Shoot him

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Shoot him (the president that is).

Now it's time for you people to take the test!

Did i do it right?

Why do you assume the people are male in all these situation?

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Totally flip out and cut off his head.
2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Totally flip out and cut off his head, and the heads of everyone who ever saw him in all of his life. I would also uppercut everyone in the room at the time.

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

I would totally flip out and cut off his head, and the heads of everyone watching. Then I would hunt down hois family and cut of their heads, and upper cut the families of everyone who saw.

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

First I would fly, then I would stab him and cut of his head. Then I would cut off the head of my kid for getting kidnapped. But my kid would dodge because he would be a ninja too. But I would still uppercut him.
5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.
OMG..ZOMG..I would kill everyone in the town that it happened in. But when I tried, I would find that my awesome ninja kid already did it when he cut off the molesters head and began his vengeance spree. So then I would have to fight my kid for killing all of my victims first. But I would win, because my kid has hinour and respect. Nevertheless, we would both gain respect for each other and our abilities.

6. Your partner has been raped.

Man..I'd TOTALLY flip out and kill the dude, but this time I'd do it while I was invisible and flying and by 1 million shurikens. But I would appear at the last second so he knew who killed him. Understandably i would also kill everyone who saw, and their families, and all of his family, and everyone that had ever seen him or any member of his family EVER. Yeah! Thats REAL ULTIMATE POWER. Then I would come back and kill everyone in the town and look strong and silent. Then I'd go and fight my rival, to inadvertently save the world, but I wouldn't do it to save the world, I'd do it for honour. However, because I did save the world, the world would forgive me for killing like a kazillion people and form a begrudging respect for me, my abilities and my REAL ULTIMATE POWER!

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

I would totally poip out from somewhere unexpected and cut off his head with my BEAR HANDS! Then I would pop out in everyone's house in the town who wasn't sleeping and cut of their heads, but not with my hands.
8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.
Well it's no big deal. I mean..I'm not a psycho. Just wait till he leaves, I suppose... THEN TOTALLY FLIP OUT AND CUT OFF HIS HEAD!
9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

He would cut off his own head upon realising he just tried to rob a ninja. I would give him the wakizashi to do it.

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

I would totally FLIP OUT and see if I could kill everyone before the nukes could, which I could because I am a ninja with REAL ULTIMATE POWER. Then I would go to my president and laugh. When they offered to pay me to kill everyone I would laugh again and kill them too.

Now it's time for you people to take the test!
*Totally Flips out and cuts off Wilgrove's head with REAL ULTIMATE POWER.*

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

let him take care of it in whatever way he deems neccessary and follow his lead, I am pretty sure he isn't going to do much......



2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.
watch him take care of it......blah, blah, blah


3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.
watch him take care of it......blah, blah, blah


4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.
call 911 chase the stranger........ (assuming I am not close enough to stop him from getting far enough that I would have to chase him)



5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.
call the police, support my child.

6. Your partner has been raped.
support my husband.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps. make sure my children are safe, call 911


8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.
call 911, watch my dog take care of it.
9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.
follow their instructions to a point, fight back when neccesary

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

nothing I can do......but pray.



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after reading some of your answers I am glad I am not married to a lot of you people......

I'd respond swiftly and violently to most of those scenarios.

I've also been pretty good at avoiding most of those. I'll still reccomend avoidance and being aware of your surroundings and the people present at all times.

If you know me, or I'm present, I'm pretty certain you're not going to have the urge to insult or smack my partner or take one of my kids.

Is this just a thread where you masturbate over fantasies of shooting people?

No. of course not. This is the thread where you have sex with your girlfriend over fantasies of shooting people. Duuuuuhhhh.

I'd respond swiftly and violently to most of those scenarios.

I've also been pretty good at avoiding most of those. I'll still reccomend avoidance and being aware of your surroundings and the people present at all times.

If you know me, or I'm present, I'm pretty certain you're not going to have the urge to insult or smack my partner or take one of my kids.

same thing goes for my husband....he is pretty intimidating.

although for the kid one, I had to assume he wasn't there or else why would someone try to grab one of my kids? I also assumed that they weren't able to get away even though they took a class on how to try to get away.

same thing goes for my husband....he is pretty intimidating.

although for the kid one, I had to assume he wasn't there or else why would someone try to grab one of my kids? I also assumed that they weren't able to get away even though they took a class on how to try to get away.

I dont tempt fate these days-in reference to the kidnap scenario- I do hunt people for a living. I'd hate for it to be my sole purpose in life.

I dont tempt fate these days-in reference to the kidnap scenario- I do hunt people for a living. I'd hate for it to be my sole purpose in life.

yeah, I had someone try to grab one of my kids in the mall parking lot before, he grabbed her arm and scooped her up, she screamed, and then bit him he dropped her, I grabbed her, he grabbed my arm (the one I was holding her in) and I turned around and kicked him, he loosened his grip and we ran back into the mall screaming the whole way.......

I didn't take her anywhere for a week, too scared.


We don't go to the mall without my husband anymore.

yeah, I had someone try to grab one of my kids in the mall parking lot before, he grabbed her arm and scooped her up, she screamed, and then bit him he dropped her, I grabbed her, he grabbed my arm (the one I was holding her in) and I turned around and kicked him, he loosened his grip and we ran back into the mall screaming the whole way.......

I didn't take her anywhere for a week, too scared.


We don't go to the mall without my husband anymore.

thats a freaking scare- I'm glad it turned out alright. I'm sure that left a scar on you and the kids though.

thats a freaking scare- I'm glad it turned out alright. I'm sure that left a scar on you and the kids though.

it didn't help my anxiety any.....I only had the one at that time, she was about 18 months old and was about 5 months pregnant with the other. I am glad she bit him, I guess her little "I am going to bite people" phase was there for a reason.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

We go on our merry way, making a snide joke about what a douche that person is.

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Give that person a nice swift kick in the ass.

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

See above.

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Call the police and get anyone nearby to help with the chase.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Drop him/her into a smouldering crater. Fail that, turn them into the police.

6. Your partner has been raped.

See above.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Let my cat follow them and meow a whole lot. The person will be nice and distracted while we call trhe cops.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Watch as they walk into my smouldering crater and die a slow, burning death! Then to speed it up, cast Incendiary Bonds on that moron.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Tries and fails because, if it's a guy, I kick him where it matters, and a girl? Cat fight!

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

I go and hide in my smouldering crater because no one will attack it!

Ok, here goes:

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Nothing much. Get my boyfriend to walk faster. If the person's really obnoxious, go into a shop/bar/bus

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Let my partner react to that.

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Tell him off, make a scene, threaten with police

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Run after him to get my kid back, calling over my shoulder to my boyfriend to call the police. Come to think of it, it might be better if he ran after the guy, he's faster.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Get my kid safely away, then call the police.

6. Your partner has been raped.

Tell him to call the police, help him in any way possible.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Yell at them. Make as much noise as possible, waking the entire neighbourhood. And get my boyfriend to call the police.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

LCheck if I can see them, and if I can tell them to leave.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Run away. Call the police

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Shrug and go on with life. I grew up in Germany in the 70s and early 80s, I'm used to the constant thread of nuclear war

Ok, I did the test. What do I win?

Ok, here goes:


Ok, I did the test. What do I win?

You win private lessons with me on what REALLY to do in those scenarios

You win private lessons with me on what REALLY to do in those scenarios

.....:eek:

You win private lessons with me on what REALLY to do in those scenarios

Well, I had the burglar bit recently. Yelling worked quite well...
I get the insulting now and then (plenty of drunk folks in Dublin on the weekend), getting into a crowd always works.
Other than that, I'm just guessing what I'd do as it never happened to me before.

Well, I had the burglar bit recently. Yelling worked quite well...
I get the insulting now and then (plenty of drunk folks in Dublin on the weekend), getting into a crowd always works.
Other than that, I'm just guessing what I'd do as it never happened to me before.

The burglar bit sucks-sorry to hear that. And the insulting? I thought the Irish were supposed to be nice?

I've ignored more stupidity than I've addressed. It depends on my mood.

.....:eek:

What? I have a lot of "hands-on" demonstrations.

1-square up to him with out intent to fight but seem like starting a fight.
2-3-beat the hell out of them.
4-5-6-skinn them alive.
7-beat them withn a stick.
8-ask them what they are doing.
9-move to a south american country.

What? I have a lot of "hands-on" demonstrations.

you mean you want to........."demonstrate"............for Cabra........

From a thread that was a spin off of my thread, me and Athesais 101 (sp) got into a debate about protecting your loved ones, family and friends. Well, that debate inspired me to present NSG with a list of possible situation and see what y'all would do in such situations. My answer is in bold.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Eh do nothing really, if it's just a petty insult then I really don't need to acknowledge it. It's just some guy trying to get a rise out of us, and to respond would just give him what he wants.


ignore him


2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

If I'm there, then eh I would yank his shirt collar, pull him close to my face and tell him that I find such acts unacceptable and that he should apologize to my girlfriend, and if he didn't I would call the police. If I am not there, and it happened like at her workplace, I would tell her to go to her supervisor about it.

dial 911 - assault complaint

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Punch the guy in the stomach, knee him in the face and subdue him, then take his car keys and tell my girlfriend to call the police.


dial 911 - assault complaint - hold with concealed firearm

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Tell my wife to call the police, pull out my 9mm, run after the guy and shoot him until he gives up. If child is in the way, I keep running after him but with my gun ready just in case I can get a clear shot.

use a 45 acp and shoot to stop/call 911/press kidnapping charges

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Go and have a talk with him, get in my shots, and then call police.

with authority? what the fuck does that mean - kill them/911/etc

6. Your partner has been raped.

call police, my girlfriend/wife will need me more in this situation.

911/press charges/kill rapist if possible [preferably wife will do it befor rape]

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Get my 12 gauge shotgun ready, tell my wife to get the .22 semi automatic ready and to call the police, go and search the house to see where they are at. If they see me, show them that I have 12 gauge shotgun and if they don't run off, fire.

barricade in bedroom/call 911/kill them if attacked

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Look out the window to see if I can see him, if I do, call the police and fire off a shot with the .22 semi automatic.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

shoot him with 9mm and call police.

give them drop money [10-20$ in money clip]/draw-hold for police and call 911

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Kiss my ass goodbye and make love to my girlfriend/wife one more time.

more than one more time lol

Now it's time for you people to take the test!

lol

you mean you want to........."demonstrate"............for Cabra........

You'll have to sign up for the class to learn more.

[QUOTE=Wilgrove;11940479]From a thread that was a spin off of my thread, me and Athesais 101 (sp) got into a debate about protecting your loved ones, family and friends. Well, that debate inspired me to present NSG with a list of possible situation and see what y'all would do in such situations. My answer is in bold.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Insult him/her back

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Force him to apologise or kick his head in

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Waste him

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Leg it after him until I catch him, then hit him (later claim it was self-defence) really hard then subdue him, call police, and keep him subdued until police arrive

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Kick ths shit out of him in what the police would be told was self-defence, then call the police

6. Your partner has been raped.

Ask HER what SHE wants to do about it. From all the research I've done (and speaking to people), it's important to let HER decide what to do - the rape has done something to her that she couldn't control, it's important that she doesn't feel like everything else is out of her control. I would, though, encourage her to go to the police but would respect her decision if she didn't want to and wouldn't pressure her.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Go downstairs (or to wherever the person is) and restrain them until cops arrive, having got family member to call cops

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

If I can see the person, wait until they try something then do as for 7. If I can't, call the police (on the non-emergency number) to report a prowler

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Kick the shit out of him

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Leave the country by the quickest means possible

You'll have to sign up for the class to learn more.

Here's the Barry White CD you wanted.

The burglar bit sucks-sorry to hear that. And the insulting? I thought the Irish were supposed to be nice?

I've ignored more stupidity than I've addressed. It depends on my mood.

It was a bit scary at first when I heard people downstairs. I just grabbed a broom (the only thing I could find), turned on the lights and yelled downstairs ... I don't even remember what exactly, something like "Hey, what's going on". I could hear someone scrambling through the window I had left open and run away... it sounded so funny, I was just standing there laughing.

Oh, the Irish are nice. But some of them can be nasty when drunk, and there's a good number of Polish now in the town as well....

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.


2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.


3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.


5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.


6. Your partner has been raped.


7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.


8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.


9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.


and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War


Now it's time for you people to take the test!

1. It would actually be my boyfriend, and if he was insulted I would let him deal with it. Ignoring is a great tactic to make the insulter feel stupid. If someone insulted me, I'd humiliate them - growing up with a snobby upper-class mother, I've plenty of experience of verbal humiliation (I tended to lose, though.
2. Give him a very loud pice of my mind.
3.Depends. In the middle of a street, someone wouldn't do that to my partner in Luxembourg. But if someone did, I can garuntee that an angry crowd would gather. They'd do it for me.
4. If I had kids, I would tell the nanny to phone the police, kick of my heels, and chase after him - though if I was with my husband, I'd get hime to chase after. I'd make sure no-one grabs the other children. And, If I was with my sister, who I do still spend a lot of time with, despite me being 29 and her 39, married and with kids, her children's au-pair could chase after him - and, let me tell you, the Mlles Smith and Ward (they're Cornish) are not to be trifled with. You'd think the women was a weight lifter! If I was by myself, nanny-less, I'd get passer-bys to help.
5. I'd do what I try not to in ordinary life. Pull the rank that I have as my mother's daughter. They wouldn't know I unofficialyly gave it up years ago when I went to help out for charity in Congo and Uganda.
6. Try to calm him down. Find out who did it and report personally to the police. I wouldn't tell anyone who didn't need to know - including my mothers.
7. The alarm would go off. Cook would thwack him/her round the head before I knew it. My nosy neighbours would come pouring in - I wouldn't have to do anything. However, if I was alone, I'd phone the police and, if I was feeling brave (I'm very much a 'wimp') lock the door on him/her - though I suppose they'd just break out again.
8. If my brother-in-law was with me, get him to go out and find out whats going on. Though they'd have to be a good climber to get over the walls. Oterwise, I'd phone the police but tell them its not urgent.
9.Whack them round the head with my umbrella. Then call the police. Or, if they just robbed me, call after him - and a crowd would, once again, gather
10. No-one would launch a nuclear War against Luxembourg. If they did, I'd be dead.

From a thread that was a spin off of my thread, me and Athesais 101 (sp) got into a debate about protecting your loved ones, family and friends. Well, that debate inspired me to present NSG with a list of possible situation and see what y'all would do in such situations. My answer is in bold.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Eh do nothing really, if it's just a petty insult then I really don't need to acknowledge it. It's just some guy trying to get a rise out of us, and to respond would just give him what he wants.

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

If I'm there, then eh I would yank his shirt collar, pull him close to my face and tell him that I find such acts unacceptable and that he should apologize to my girlfriend, and if he didn't I would call the police. If I am not there, and it happened like at her workplace, I would tell her to go to her supervisor about it.

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Punch the guy in the stomach, knee him in the face and subdue him, then take his car keys and tell my girlfriend to call the police.

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

Tell my wife to call the police, pull out my 9mm, run after the guy and shoot him until he gives up. If child is in the way, I keep running after him but with my gun ready just in case I can get a clear shot.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Go and have a talk with him, get in my shots, and then call police.

6. Your partner has been raped.

call police, my girlfriend/wife will need me more in this situation.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

Get my 12 gauge shotgun ready, tell my wife to get the .22 semi automatic ready and to call the police, go and search the house to see where they are at. If they see me, show them that I have 12 gauge shotgun and if they don't run off, fire.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Look out the window to see if I can see him, if I do, call the police and fire off a shot with the .22 semi automatic.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

shoot him with 9mm and call police.

and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Kiss my ass goodbye and make love to my girlfriend/wife one more time.

Now it's time for you people to take the test!

1,2,3. no need to do a thing as iam single

4. just say if some one takes kid off a member in my family
they be calling the cop as i go hunt the SOB down

5. same thing as said in Quote

6.say i got a partner now i call the cops and her family, then go out and hunt the SOB down

7,8. they would meet my new shotgun as some one calls the cops

9.meet my new 9mm i would say

10. ha i be safe as iam in Australia
but when the fall out heads our way , i go out and have lots of sexs with hot babes

Here's the Barry White CD you wanted.

*L* Thanks.

"What to do in case of attemtped date rape" is a different class.

*L* Thanks.

"What to do in case of attemtped date rape" is a different class.

will i dont need it
i never heard of a females trying to do it to males

It was a bit scary at first when I heard people downstairs. I just grabbed a broom (the only thing I could find), turned on the lights and yelled downstairs ... I don't even remember what exactly, something like "Hey, what's going on". I could hear someone scrambling through the window I had left open and run away... it sounded so funny, I was just standing there laughing.

Oh, the Irish are nice. But some of them can be nasty when drunk, and there's a good number of Polish now in the town as well....

Was the broom for a quick get-away? *L* Sorry-couldnt resist.

I'm glad the unknown party ran off- its likely he thought the place was empty. My grandmother had a similar encounter in Brooklyn,NY many years ago. On a 4th story window. As soon as she started yelling, the guy split.

Probably half the people in the world are nasty when drunk. Sometimes the alternative is worse though.

will i dont need it
i never heard of a female trying to do it to male
That's because unless a guy is gay, he won't say no to sex, unless the girl is really ugly.

will i dont need it
i never heard of a female trying to do it to male

you oughtta meet my wife

That's because unless a guy is gay, he won't say no to sex, unless the girl is really ugly.
...AND he forgot the bag for her head

That's because unless a guy is gay, he won't say no to sex, unless the girl is really ugly.

if she is ugly hell i would say no to it
if she hot no way in hell i would say no to free sex


you oughtta meet my wife

:eek:

...AND he forgot the bag for her head

if she got a bag over her head that be a dead give away

[QUOTE=Wilgrove;11940479]From a thread that was a spin off of my thread, me and Athesais 101 (sp) got into a debate about protecting your loved ones, family and friends. Well, that debate inspired me to present NSG with a list of possible situation and see what y'all would do in such situations. My answer is in bold.

1. Your with your girl(boy)friend/wife(husband)/partner, and someone else come up and insult him or her.

Act meekly. Then find out who they are and capture them and lock them up in my basement. First I would slit his vocal cords so nobody could hear his screams, then I would...

2. Someone slaps your partner ass's.

Act meekly. Then find out who they are and capture them and lock them up in my basement. First I would slit his vocal cords so nobody could hear his screams, then I would...

3. Someone slaps your partner's face, I don't mean a play slap, I mean like a real slap, one that hurts and leaves a red mark.

Act meekly. Then find out who they are and capture them and lock them up in my basement. First I would slit his vocal cords so nobody could hear his screams, then I would...

4. You're with your family in the park and a stranger runs up grabs one of your kids and runs off.

I do not have any kids but if I did, then I would tackle him and subdue him and then take him to my basement, slit the vocal cords, etc.

5. A person with authority molest or rape your child.

Get out the pliers and the propane torch and get medieval on his ass.

6. Your partner has been raped.

Get out the pliers and the propane torch and get medieval on his ass.

7. Someone tries to break into your house, it's at night and all you can hear is footsteps.

I'd waste him with my crossbow.

8. You or someone in your family sees a suspicious person on the property.

Club him and drown him.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

Time to unleash the violent hand to hand combat fantasies I have had for years!

[and the final one (the last one I can think of)

10. The current President has started a Nuclear War

Feel sorry for the wildlife that is about to die and hope we attacked some place good where we will not cause any endangered species to become extinct.

9. You are walking along, and someone tries to rob you.

shoot him with 9mm and call police.

Many of your answers reveal your lust for violence and obsession with guns. Most of the situations where you shoot including the above could easily be solved with a punch to the face.

But no, you just have to kill, don't you. :rolleyes:

Killing another human being is something that should only be done if you're absolutely certain that it's the last resort you have to protect the life of you or someone else. It bothers me tremendously when people say they'd kill for property. A human life is worth far more than some stupid shit I bought at Walmart even if that human life is that of a thieving asshole.

Nope. A scumbag's life is not worth one penny. Unless you are looking at it from the perspective of how much does the gun cost that I am going to use to kill the sucka.

Yes but it's my money, my property the guy has no right to demand something that is not his. Since it's my property I have the right to self defense under NC law.
Whatever the law says, you have no moral right to kill over property. Of course if someone's trying to rob you that is wrong and it is right to resist them, but it is undoubtedly wrong to kill them for it.

Nope. A scumbag's life is not worth one penny. Unless you are looking at it from the perspective of how much does the gun cost that I am going to use to kill the sucka.
Human life is sacred.

It really bothers me to see Christians advocating murder over the altar of private property rights. I don't understand it.

Is this just a thread where you masturbate over fantasies of shooting people?

while suffering from delusions of grandeur it seems...yeah, pretty much.

Was the broom for a quick get-away? *L* Sorry-couldnt resist.

I'm glad the unknown party ran off- its likely he thought the place was empty. My grandmother had a similar encounter in Brooklyn,NY many years ago. On a 4th story window. As soon as she started yelling, the guy split.

Probably half the people in the world are nasty when drunk. Sometimes the alternative is worse though.

Call me Granny Weatherwax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granny_Weatherwax) :p

Almost all burglaries here happen in empty houses. It's a very, very rare thing that someone breaks in when people are at home. Usually they would have thought the place was empty. I think that my be one of the big socio-cultural differnces between this side of the Atlantic and the other side ;)

They don't really get nasty, they just get loud, obnoxious and annoying. I've personally never seen them getting aggressive... that's usually just the kids hanging out in front of Centra or Spar. They can get violent if your refuse to buy them booze or cigarettes.

Human life is sacred.

It really bothers me to see Christians advocating murder over the altar of private property rights. I don't understand it.

I think that has very little to do with Christian or not. I've seen Christians crying for blood, and I've met other agnostics and atheists who would refuse to kill another human being even if that meant a threat to their own life.

*shrugs* The world is weird, isn't it?

I think that has very little to do with Christian or not. I've seen Christians crying for blood, and I've met other agnostics and atheists who would refuse to kill another human being even if that meant a threat to their own life.

*shrugs* The world is weird, isn't it?

The thing about that is agnostics and atheists presumably have only their own moral code. Their belief structure is, by definition, just as flexible as they allow it to be. A christian (or any other religious person) presumably does not live by his own moral code, but rather one perscribed.

Neither a militant atheist or a pacifist atheist are inherently oxymorons. A militant christian is.

The thing about that is agnostics and atheists presumably have only their own moral code. Their belief structure is, by definition, just as flexible as they allow it to be. A christian (or any other religious person) presumably does not live by his own moral code, but rather one perscribed.

Neither a militant atheist or a pacifist atheist are inherently oxymorons. A militant christian should be.

I corrected the bold part. ;)
Personally, I've met more militant christians than militant atheists. Most atheists I met have a very strong affinity to the Golden Rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity) and are a lot more conscious about their set of morals and its implications than many (not all!!!) christians.

I corrected the bold part. ;)
Personally, I've met more militant christians than militant atheists. Most atheists I met have a very strong affinity to the Golden Rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity) and are a lot more conscious about their set of morals and its implications than many (not all!!!) christians.

Actually I believe that a christian who would kill another is an oxymoron. A christian, by definition, perscribes to a certain set of rules and beliefs. If one acts in such a way to intentionally, deliberatly deviate and disregard those rules, he can not be said to proscribe to them.

*L* Thanks.

"What to do in case of attemtped date rape" is a different class.

prevent it... watch your drink (bottles are best, mosre difficult to spike and easier to take around with you when you move from place to place to say hi to your mates or whatever) and get your friends to look out for you while you look out for them... and watch the barperson open and pour your drink (or just open it if you're gonna be drinking out a bottle) in case he/she is dodgy (just read a story about what appears to be a dodgy barperson)

In summary:
WATCH - watch your drink being opened and poured, and keep an eye on it
LOOKOUT - lookout for mates and get them to lookput for you