NationStates Jolt Archive

Wow. (http://newsizeofourworld.ytmnd.com/)

And if that doesn't make your brain hurt, try this. (http://atinyglimpse.ytmnd.com/)

:eek:

I find this comforting, in this large universe there has to be an intelligent race thats not as messed up as ours...:)

The universe is amazingly large, a fact that few can grasp.

Infinite wonders out there, awaiting the human race to discover them - assuming we get out there before we get back to killing each other over labels and flags.

I find this comforting, in this large universe there has to be an intelligent race thats not as messed up as ours...:)
some people think life on Earth was seeded by alien bacteria. really retarded alien bacteria, apparently.

kudos corsairs for the videos, although the xbox controller threw me off :rolleyes:
I am forwarding to our university's physics club...

Infinite wonders out there, awaiting the human race to discover them - assuming we get out there before we get back to killing each other over labels and flags.

The universe is, unfortunately, probably too large for us to peruse in its vast entirety before entropy increases to a point where life can no longer exist. Sad, really.

some people think life on Earth was seeded by alien bacteria. really retarded alien bacteria, apparently.

kudos corsairs for the videos, although the xbox controller threw me off :rolleyes:
I am forwarding to our university's physics club...

Maybe it was a sweat droplet off a really nasty kind of alien, thats obsessed with its own survival and comfort ;) Now the kind in flying saucers monitor us to make sure we don't become a dangerous threat. :p

Lol @ the XBox controller.

Why is it making your head hurt?

The fact that we're tiny is pretty well known.

Personally, I prefer this (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-36-5404.jpg), this (http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/195/earthspace23ac.jpg), and this (http://www.humanistsofutah.org/images/PaleBlueDot.jpg).

I now know what an atom feels like.

The universe is, unfortunately, probably too large for us to peruse in its vast entirety before entropy increases to a point where life can no longer exist. Sad, really.

Sad for us, good for the universe. If I were the universe, I certainly would not want us running about poking at every part of me.

Lol @ the XBox controller.

Subliminal message.

It's a small world after all...!

Seriously, I think we really need to show this kind of thing to creationists, fundies, and other peeps that stupid. Sure, those amongst us that are intelligent knew this all along, but methinks they need a dose of reality.

It's a small world after all...!

Seriously, I think we really need to show this kind of thing to creationists, fundies, and other peeps that stupid. Sure, those amongst us that are intelligent knew this all along, but methinks they need a dose of reality.

A while ago, Powers of Ten was featured on YouTube, and attracted a fuckton of young Earth Creationists who criticised it for showing their folly. I lost faith after reading the six hundredth "this is a load of demonic bullshit spewed by Satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

A while ago, Powers of Ten was featured on YouTube, and attracted a fuckton of young Earth Creationists who criticised it for showing their folly. I lost faith after reading the six hundredth "this is a load of demonic bullshit spewed by Satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

...what?

UGH. I fucking HATE willfully ignorant people!

"It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it."

Some more perspective for you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg)

:D

So large that my military is slipping. :(
4,368th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

It's a great big universe and we're all really puny, 'bout the size of Mickey Rooney

Well the earth IS very very small, but it is also immensely huge at the same time. Consider how many atoms there are on this planet.

The Earth has a mass of 6e24kg. ie. lots. of which it is made up of mostly iron (35%). So if we use the modal average to assume the rest of the earth on average is the same as iron then this leaves us with the earth being made up of approximately 1e23 moles (Iron has a molar mass of 56g/mol). Now, every one of those moles will contain 6e23 atoms. Therefore, within this planet there are about 6e46 atoms. Which when written out is -

60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Now, I think I remember that clip saying that in that picture alone there were 10,000 galaxies, each containing 10 billion stars
So in thatpicture there were, in comparison, a mere 100,000,000,000,000 stars. The numbers don't even begin to compare.

And it's our solemn duty to go out there and rip it all to shit, motherfuckers! Hooyah!

Wow. (http://newsizeofourworld.ytmnd.com/)

And if that doesn't make your brain hurt, try this. (http://atinyglimpse.ytmnd.com/)

:eek:

That. Was. Amazing.:gundge:

Well the earth IS very very small, but it is also immensely huge at the same time. Consider how many atoms there are on this planet.

The Earth has a mass of 6e24kg. ie. lots. of which it is made up of mostly iron (35%). So if we use the modal average to assume the rest of the earth on average is the same as iron then this leaves us with the earth being made up of approximately 1e23 moles (Iron has a molar mass of 56g/mol). Now, every one of those moles will contain 6e23 atoms. Therefore, within this planet there are about 6e46 atoms. Which when written out is -

60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Now, I think I remember that clip saying that in that picture alone there were 10,000 galaxies, each containing 10 billion stars
So in thatpicture there were, in comparison, a mere 100,000,000,000,000 stars. The numbers don't even begin to compare.

How many atoms are in those stars?

1 x 10^14 stars>Earth

How many atoms are in those stars?

1 x 10^14 stars>Earth

It is small relative to those stars, but it is large relative to us puny humans.

It is small relative to those stars, but it is large relative to us puny humans.

Yes. Earth>Us

I recon (after getting a tape-measure out) that a human is in the region of quarter of a cubic metre in volume.

Assuming the universe is about 13.7 billion years old, the visible universe's radius is about 129,602,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 metres. Therefore its volume is about 9.12x10^78 cubic metres.

That means that you take up about 2.74x10^-78 percent of the visible universe. That is to say; 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000274%.

The entire human race (6.5 billion people) takes up about 1.78x10^-68 percent.

Which, I think, says very well exactly how important we are :)

I now know what an atom feels like.
Atoms aren't sentient. If they were, then particle physics would be deemed cruel.

I recon (after getting a tape-measure out) that a human is in the region of quarter of a cubic metre in volume.

Assuming the universe is about 13.7 billion years old, the visible universe's radius is about 129,602,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 metres. Therefore its volume is about 9.12x10^78 cubic metres.

That means that you take up about 2.74x10^-78 percent of the visible universe. That is to say; 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000274%.

The entire human race (6.5 billion people) takes up about 1.78x10^-68 percent.

Which, I think, says very well exactly how important we are :)

:eek:
Tiny numbers!

EDIT:Fixed your tiny numbers

EDIT:Fixed your tiny numbers
Did I get something wrong? I can't see the difference...

Did I get something wrong? I can't see the difference...

I added "-"s before some of the powers.

Did I get something wrong? I can't see the difference...
No negative signs :)

Oops :)
Fixed.

I recon (after getting a tape-measure out) that a human is in the region of quarter of a cubic metre in volume.

Assuming the universe is about 13.7 billion years old, the visible universe's radius is about 129,602,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 metres. Therefore its volume is about 9.12x10^78 cubic metres.

That means that you take up about 2.74x10^78 percent of the visible universe. That is to say; 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000274%.

The entire human race (6.5 billion people) takes up about 1.78x10^68 percent.

Which, I think, says very well exactly how important we are :)

I, on the other hand, believe that we are of 100% of the total value of the universe. Because, without our ability to subjectively analyze and provide a value to the universe, there is no reason for it to exist.

I, on the other hand, believe that we are of 100% of the total value of the universe. Because, without our ability to subjectively analyze and provide a value to the universe, there is no reason for it to exist.

What if there's other things that can subjectively analyze and provide a value to the universe?

I, on the other hand, believe that we are of 100% of the total value of the universe. Because, without our ability to subjectively analyze and provide a value to the universe, there is no reason for it to exist.
Umm... what about the great pink unicorns of Froudng 7? They can analyze and provide value to the universe too.

Some more perspective for you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg)

:D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Pergament.jpg

That just made my day. ;)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Pergament.jpg

That just made my day. ;)

Glad I could help. :)

Wow. (http://newsizeofourworld.ytmnd.com/)

And if that doesn't make your brain hurt, try this. (http://atinyglimpse.ytmnd.com/)

:eek:

Well the facts about size of universe were taught in highschool in not-so-propogandic-manner as that site. Nothing new.

Next.

How many atoms are in those stars?

1 x 10^14 stars>EarthWell, yes, but that wasn't my point. Or was it. I can't remember. But my point now is that we can't comprehend just what the earth consists of, just as much as we cannot comprehend how small a part the earth is within the universe.

Oh, the size was taught in the schools I went to. It's just that telling you all the numbers can't even begin to describe it. Honestly, even those videos probably don't do it justice--the universe is so vastly huge that you simply cannot comprehend its hugeness. If you try to form a mental picture of it, whatever you are picturing is too small.

The Star Trek physics thing was cool. But what about the episode where that warp technician and that alien came onboard and they traveled like 6 trillion light years?

they ended up at the edge of time or something
where thoughts became reality.
it's recommended viewing for all of you :P

"I am significant!!!!...............cried the dust speck."

Well the facts about size of universe were taught in highschool in not-so-propogandic-manner as that site. Nothing new.

Next.Uh, do you know what propaganda means?

Some more perspective for you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg)

:D
It's not loading correctly. All i see is a page-load of html text.

It's not loading correctly. All i see is a page-load of html text.

...weird.

It's a link to Youtube. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg

Works just fine for me. *nod*

I, on the other hand, believe that we are of 100% of the total value of the universe. Because, without our ability to subjectively analyze and provide a value to the universe, there is no reason for it to exist.

So, considering Homo Sapiens only popped up in Africa about 250,000 years ago the universe has had no reason to be for 99.998% of its existence? Somebody should have told it, it could've spent the preceeding 13.7 billion years in the pub.

...weird.

It's a link to Youtube. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JSR_6qfXTg

Works just fine for me. *nod*
this is what I'm getting: http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/5342/bleerrghsve0.jpg

So, considering Homo Sapiens only popped up in Africa about 250,000 years ago the universe has had no reason to be for 99.998% of its existence? Somebody should have told it, it could've spent the preceeding 13.7 billion years in the pub.

Perhaps it did. Can you imagine the size of that pub!? I wonder if it as cider on tap..

this is what I'm getting: http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/5342/bleerrghsve0.jpg

Try this: Go to youtube. Do a search for: monty python galaxy song

The first result on that be a video by ElhananBY. That's the one. :)

If that doesn't work, I'm afraid you're fucked. :p

Ahahaha! Blocked on both counts.! :(

It's strange, looking at those videos and getting a sense of just how physically tiny we are within the context of the universe we live in. I lost the ability to visualize the Earth after the first couple of frames. Makes us seem insignificant, doesn't it? Like nothing more than a dust particle on a rock somewhere in the desert. So unimaginably tiny and insignificant that it just doesn't figure in any calculation, any reasoning. It may as well not even be there.

And we, as the people on that little planet, so much little specks of dust on what's already smaller than a single atom compared to even the galaxy alone. What are we that anything we think, want or do matters in the slightest? If I get a new motorcycle in May, what does it mean in the cosmos? Does it mean anything at all if I live another 20 years or die tonight? If I have 5 more kids or none? if I want to become a history professor or if I become a real estate tycoon and retire at 50? Doesn't seem to, in the great scheme of things.

And maybe that's the danger, is that it's so easy to lose perspective. To forget just what we ARE worth, individually. We are unimaginably tiny motes of dust on an unimaginably tiny planet in an uimaginably vast universe, and yet we are AWARE of it. If there was a civilization as small as molecules living on the survace of the keyboard for your computer, would you not find it impressive that they can see and map out the wall on the other side of the room your computer is in? We'd think of them as highly intelligent and observant little people indeed. Well, that's us. We're so small that we can't even imagine it, and yet we've devised the means to look across the known universe and see the very edge of Creation.

Creation with a capital 'C' because this didn't happen by accident. For any of you reading this... just remember that the Being who created that, all of it, created this world, and every single person in it. The Being that brought about the galaxy so massive it defies our understanding of physics and put it so far away we couldn't reach it in hundreds of billions of lifetimes knows your name.

And loves us enough to sacrifice His Son in order to redeem us.

Suddenly, I don't feel so small anymore.

It's strange, looking at those videos and getting a sense of just how physically tiny we are within the context of the universe we live in. I lost the ability to visualize the Earth after the first couple of frames. Makes us seem insignificant, doesn't it? Like nothing more than a dust particle on a rock somewhere in the desert. So unimaginably tiny and insignificant that it just doesn't figure in any calculation, any reasoning. It may as well not even be there.

And we, as the people on that little planet, so much little specks of dust on what's already smaller than a single atom compared to even the galaxy alone. What are we that anything we think, want or do matters in the slightest? If I get a new motorcycle in May, what does it mean in the cosmos? Does it mean anything at all if I live another 20 years or die tonight? If I have 5 more kids or none? if I want to become a history professor or if I become a real estate tycoon and retire at 50? Doesn't seem to, in the great scheme of things.

And maybe that's the danger, is that it's so easy to lose perspective. To forget just what we ARE worth, individually. We are unimaginably tiny motes of dust on an unimaginably tiny planet in an uimaginably vast universe, and yet we are AWARE of it. If there was a civilization as small as molecules living on the survace of the keyboard for your computer, would you not find it impressive that they can see and map out the wall on the other side of the room your computer is in? We'd think of them as highly intelligent and observant little people indeed. Well, that's us. We're so small that we can't even imagine it, and yet we've devised the means to look across the known universe and see the very edge of Creation.

Creation with a capital 'C' because this didn't happen by accident. For any of you reading this... just remember that the Being who created that, all of it, created this world, and every single person in it. The Being that brought about the galaxy so massive it defies our understanding of physics and put it so far away we couldn't reach it in hundreds of billions of lifetimes knows your name.

And loves us enough to sacrifice His Son in order to redeem us.

Suddenly, I don't feel so small anymore.


Sometimes I wonder if He's eating popcorn while He's watching us.

I imagine we must be pretty boring as a whole, but if He Tivos the good parts, I bet we're good for a lot of laughs. :)

It's strange, looking at those videos and getting a sense of just how physically tiny we are within the context of the universe we live in. I lost the ability to visualize the Earth after the first couple of frames. Makes us seem insignificant, doesn't it? Like nothing more than a dust particle on a rock somewhere in the desert. So unimaginably tiny and insignificant that it just doesn't figure in any calculation, any reasoning. It may as well not even be there.

And we, as the people on that little planet, so much little specks of dust on what's already smaller than a single atom compared to even the galaxy alone. What are we that anything we think, want or do matters in the slightest? If I get a new motorcycle in May, what does it mean in the cosmos? Does it mean anything at all if I live another 20 years or die tonight? If I have 5 more kids or none? if I want to become a history professor or if I become a real estate tycoon and retire at 50? Doesn't seem to, in the great scheme of things.

And maybe that's the danger, is that it's so easy to lose perspective. To forget just what we ARE worth, individually. We are unimaginably tiny motes of dust on an unimaginably tiny planet in an uimaginably vast universe, and yet we are AWARE of it. If there was a civilization as small as molecules living on the survace of the keyboard for your computer, would you not find it impressive that they can see and map out the wall on the other side of the room your computer is in? We'd think of them as highly intelligent and observant little people indeed. Well, that's us. We're so small that we can't even imagine it, and yet we've devised the means to look across the known universe and see the very edge of Creation.

Creation with a capital 'C' because this didn't happen by accident. For any of you reading this... just remember that the Being who created that, all of it, created this world, and every single person in it. The Being that brought about the galaxy so massive it defies our understanding of physics and put it so far away we couldn't reach it in hundreds of billions of lifetimes knows your name.

And loves us enough to sacrifice His Son in order to redeem us.

Suddenly, I don't feel so small anymore.

What a terribly quaint view, though I don’t particularly need that crutch of belief to put things in perspective, nor to console myself to our physical size. (Sorry for being harsh but when all ya do is use a discussion on physical characteristics of the universe as a podium for mythology I refuse to dance around the point

It's strange, looking at those videos and getting a sense of just how physically tiny we are within the context of the universe we live in. I lost the ability to visualize the Earth after the first couple of frames. Makes us seem insignificant, doesn't it? Like nothing more than a dust particle on a rock somewhere in the desert. So unimaginably tiny and insignificant that it just doesn't figure in any calculation, any reasoning. It may as well not even be there.

And we, as the people on that little planet, so much little specks of dust on what's already smaller than a single atom compared to even the galaxy alone. What are we that anything we think, want or do matters in the slightest? If I get a new motorcycle in May, what does it mean in the cosmos? Does it mean anything at all if I live another 20 years or die tonight? If I have 5 more kids or none? if I want to become a history professor or if I become a real estate tycoon and retire at 50? Doesn't seem to, in the great scheme of things.

And maybe that's the danger, is that it's so easy to lose perspective. To forget just what we ARE worth, individually. We are unimaginably tiny motes of dust on an unimaginably tiny planet in an uimaginably vast universe, and yet we are AWARE of it. If there was a civilization as small as molecules living on the survace of the keyboard for your computer, would you not find it impressive that they can see and map out the wall on the other side of the room your computer is in? We'd think of them as highly intelligent and observant little people indeed. Well, that's us. We're so small that we can't even imagine it, and yet we've devised the means to look across the known universe and see the very edge of Creation.

Creation with a capital 'C' because this didn't happen by accident. For any of you reading this... just remember that the Being who created that, all of it, created this world, and every single person in it. The Being that brought about the galaxy so massive it defies our understanding of physics and put it so far away we couldn't reach it in hundreds of billions of lifetimes knows your name.

And loves us enough to sacrifice His Son in order to redeem us.

Suddenly, I don't feel so small anymore.

I was liking this until the "Creation" part. You can believe what you want to believe, but I'm not having any part of it.

I appreciate the feedback.

I know that the religious aspect of my post isn't in agreement with everybody's belief. Take from my post what you find useful, if anything. If you don't like the end, that's okay I posted it as a reflection of my own thoughts and feelings. Not out to convert anyone.

In any case, thanks for taking the time to read it.

So large that my military is slipping. :(
4,368th in the world for Largest Defense Forces (per capita).

Heh i know what you feel. 18th in the NSverse, and how many other 'verses are there out there? They probably have more nukes. Time to increase the defense budget, again!

I now know what an atom feels like.

Nah, not yet.

http://www.phrenopolis.com/perspective/atom/index.html

Sroll through this, then you know.

Wouldn't it be much more bizarre if there is no life on other planets than if there is...

Wouldn't it be much more bizarre if there is no life on other planets than if there is...

Yes?

Wouldn't it be much more bizarre if there is no life on other planets than if there is...

If by "bizarre", you mean "completely and utterly ridiculous", then yes. It's hard to imagine that there is no life, anywhere, but on earth, being as how there are billions, if not trillions, of stars and planets in our galaxy alone.

SNIP

don't really believe in God either way but I loved it

and people love me and that alone makes me feel not so small after all :)

(and besides its quality over quantity;) )

Humans are egotistic. We're likely one of the most insignificant blobs of crap the universe has spewed out. There's probably been trillions of ancient alien civilisations that'll flared and died before we even took our first step. There'll probably be trillions after we're gone, too.