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This is a thread where you can post your opinion about WWIII. When it'll happen, what will cause it, allies, you think it won't happen, etc.

WHAT I THINK:
If it happens, which I think there's about a 30% chance, it'll go down like this:

In the 2020's or sometime in the next half century, China will be competing with the US much like the USSR did in the Cold War. Iran, or one of the other little crazy middle-eastern countries will try and blow Israel off the map. On this side, you have the pissed off Americans, Israelis, Britts, Frenchies, Germans, South Koreans, Japanese, most of South Americans, Canada people, Mexicans, Indians(?), maybe some of Africa. In this end of the ring you have China, Russia, North Korea, Some of Africa, the middle-eastern countries (excluding Iraq). You have two equally matched sides, the two leaders being the US and China. We have the US and its allies invade Iran or whoever. The other guys strike back- probably in Hawaii or Japan. Before you know it, the whole world's drafting, the men are off at war, nukes are being manufactured again, maybe even some space fighting :gundge: . Anyway it's just all around :gundge: :sniper: :headbang: :( :upyours: :mp5:. What do you think?

If it happens, which I think there's about a 30% chance, it'll go down like this:

In the 2020's or sometime in the next half century, China will be competing with the US much like the USSR did in the Cold War.
Already is, sort of.

Iran, or one of the other little crazy middle-eastern countries will try and blow Israel off the map.
Already are.

On this side, you have the pissed off Americans, Israelis, Britts, Frenchies, Germans, South Koreans, Japanese, most of South Americans, Canada people, Mexicans, Indians(?), maybe some of Africa. In this end of the ring you have China, Russia, North Korea, Some of Africa, the middle-eastern countries (excluding Iraq).
Waaay to many people on the American's side. Scratch the Israelis, South Americans, Indians, Mexicans, Africans, and at least one of the European nations. On the other side, China and Russia hate each other, N. Korea is to FUBAR'ed to really contribute (probably), Africa won't contribute, and the Middle East is a different bloc from the Communists.
You have two equally matched sides, the two leaders being the US and China. We have the US and its allies invade Iran or whoever. The other guys strike back- probably in Hawaii or Japan. Before you know it, the whole world's drafting, the men are off at war, nukes are being manufactured again, maybe even some space fighting :gundge: . Anyway it's just all around :gundge: :sniper: :headbang: :( :upyours: :mp5:. What do you think?
Get rid of the gun smileys.
And, doubtful. But, meh, anything can happen.

My very existence :(

There will be no World War III. The major superpowers are scared of MAD and dependent on uninterrupted international trade.

After subversive groups and radicals comprimise America and start a civil war the world's protection will be gone and the other power-hungry powers will have a nasty free for all. By then All Islamic territory will be amalgamated into one state. This state will attack China, India and anyone else who isn't Islam. Meanwhile Australia would in my opinion prepare their defenses. India might either join or fight with China.

Waaay to many people on the American's side. Scratch the Israelis, South Americans, Indians, Mexicans, Africans, and at least one of the European nations. On the other side, China and Russia hate each other, N. Korea is to FUBAR'ed to really contribute (probably), Africa won't contribute, and the Middle East is a different bloc from the Communists.

Wait a minute, aren't China and Russia sworn allies? It was Russia that converted them to Red after all. :confused:

Wait a minute, aren't China and Russia sworn allies? It was Russia that converted them to Red after all. :confused:

They did, but that was pre-50's. I forget the exact year, but China and Russia have been vying for dominance in the Far Eastern sphere for a long time. This has resulted in events such as the overthrow of the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, and the Sino-Vietnamese War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War).

Oil supplies start to run low. The remaining oil is hard to get out, so it costs a lot more. The economy starts to suffer. The superpowers of the world are getting pretty desperate for oil and ethics are seeming less important than ever...

As for Iran attacking Israel, that wouldn't be a world war so much as:
Iran develops a nuke, uses it on Israel. Israel retaliates. Iran is now back in the stone age.

WWIII will start when I begin taking over the world. And I will win. With my uber kickass space-age technology.:eek::gundge:

WWIII will start when I begin taking over the world. And I will win. With my uber kickass space-age technology.:eek::gundge:

Not if I do first! :D

WWIII will start when I begin taking over the world. And I will win. With my uber kickass space-age technology.:eek::gundge:

You realise the space age was forty or so years ago, right?

It will arise in Guam and be perpetuated by the decline of the fish population and the carbonated seas. A shadow will fall over Europe. The blood of thousands of pandas will fill the Caspian sea. No one will weep but the descendants of the Mycenaeans.

*flees into underground bunker stocked with bamboo and pandas*

We don't have the powder keg of alliances to spring an unexpected world war like before. That being said, I can imagine some kind of economic or massive natural disaster throwing us back into the dark ages not at all unlike Mad Max (or Road warrior as you erroneously call it in USA). In such a situation there would be widespread small scale conflicts, plus roving bands of bandits. Worldwide chaos, almost like World war II in that everyonbe would be fighting, just people wouldn't have as much unity. There may even be a few nukes set off, if some shabby groups and get control of a facility or two.

More and more countries will join a coalition to counter American "interests" (whatever it may be), and one day America would carelessly attack a nation it considers as a threat and not knowing the devastating effects from that war. As America makes a war with that country, several countries (probably scared of being next of American list) would do their own pre-emption. American strategic points across the world would be destabilized and American influence would decrease because of its unjust war until it comes to its sense once again but by then, it will be no longer a super power and America would isolate itself from the rest of the world. It would be written down in history books that America was once a superpower only to decay like many great civilizations. With great dissatisfaction for the way America is governed, several discontent leaders would nominate themselves as the leaders of America, the reigning president is killed, the military takes over and American civil war break out. America breaks in chaos and is governed by powerful warlords and supporting businessmen after their own interests. Religious fanatics and their holy militia will also hold influence on Southern parts of America. All the educated class would immigrate to Canada as Canada closes its border against the American border. (This could be some good story book)

:gundge: :sniper: :headbang: :( :upyours: :mp5:. What do you think?
Loose teh smilies!
Probably North Korea..or in the middle east..but i doubt one will ever occur, world powers will never face each other in open battle ever again

I'm surprised no one has tried to make the claim that the "War on Terror" is WWIII yet.

I'm surprised no one has tried to make the claim that the "War on Terror" is WWIII yet.

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*waves hand in a classic jedi mind-trick* None of you saw that. You will go on your way.


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It could involve an EMP strike on the U.S, effectively shutting it down.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm

Zombie Jesus versus Ghost Buddha versus Vampire Muhammad versus Shiva versus Skeleton Hitler versus Lich-king Idi Amin versus Shapeshifting Cheney versus Werewolf Khmer Rouge in an all out free for all to the death.

America in the Middle East with Blustering.

The Vatican vs. Liechtenstein

Projected large conflict senerio (one of them)


1) N korea gets relible nukes (also known as yeah right phase)

2)S korea gets nukes (stupid phase)

3)we stand behind S and China backs N.

4)Kim Jong (is) ill sneexes on big red button, i his haste to get the snot off, lest he gets charged with his new "anti-sneezing law," he pushes it. One nuke wastes a S korea city. (the spark)

5) S korea wastes N korea (the chain1)

6) China wastes S korea (the chain 2)

Watcher: from here the paths of reality become twisted and multiple things could happen. (Those who know who the watcher is KUDOS^3!!:)

7a) China and USA nuke each other, 1/4 of population killed.

8)a radation sickness kills off 1/4 of world population

9a nuclear winter kills off all plants

10a famine ensues, killing another 1/4.

11a) mutated beasts kill everyone else. (to those of you who haven't realized what book i'm refering to, you need to think more!)

12a everyone's dead.

OR!!

7b) conventional war between china and usa ensues. and china invades californa.

8b stupid chinease general accedently blows up important bridges with MRLS's.

9b hawii seccedes and invades the virgin islands :confused: (the random step)

10b morroco invades hispanola (the random step V2!)
:( :mp5:

11b M1 abram tanks mow down china's red guard. (there should be a tank smilee!)

12b masive coo insed china's government puts new emporer "HOT SOUP" in charge.

13b end.

A contest!
if you can list the 4 pieces of litterature I used to make these conjectures you wiil win a fabulous NO-PRIZE! (Make that 5.)

This is a thread where you can post your opinion about WWIII. When it'll happen, what will cause it, allies, you think it won't happen, etc.

WWIII happened from about 1947 to very late 1991. It's over and done with. We're currently involved in WWIV.

WHAT I THINK:
If it happens, which I think there's about a 30% chance, it'll go down like this:

In the 2020's or sometime in the next half century, China will be competing with the US much like the USSR did in the Cold War. Iran, or one of the other little crazy middle-eastern countries will try and blow Israel off the map. On this side, you have the pissed off Americans, Israelis, Britts, Frenchies, Germans, South Koreans, Japanese, most of South Americans, Canada people, Mexicans, Indians(?), maybe some of Africa. In this end of the ring you have China, Russia, North Korea, Some of Africa, the middle-eastern countries (excluding Iraq). You have two equally matched sides, the two leaders being the US and China. We have the US and its allies invade Iran or whoever. The other guys strike back- probably in Hawaii or Japan. Before you know it, the whole world's drafting, the men are off at war, nukes are being manufactured again, maybe even some space fighting

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to point out all the flaws in that. At the moment, I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so. If someone hasn't done so when I get back this evening, I might give it a go myself.

:gundge: Anyway it's just all around :gundge: :sniper: :headbang: :( :upyours: :mp5:. What do you think?

I think your argument may have carried more weight with less smilies.

I'm surprised no one has tried to make the claim that the "War on Terror" is WWIII yet.

Heheheheheh give it time. But you goit the wrong numbers.

Resource wars. Mainly for oil in around the Middle East, but there will also be competition for water, arable land, etc.

Wait a minute, aren't China and Russia sworn allies? It was Russia that converted them to Red after all. :confused:

They did, but that was pre-50's. I forget the exact year, but China and Russia have been vying for dominance in the Far Eastern sphere for a long time. This has resulted in events such as the overthrow of the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia, and the Sino-Vietnamese War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War).

Sino-Soviet Split; they each accused each other of being "heretical" to Marxist ideals. Which is redundant now, since Russia is capitalist, and China honestly shouldn't be called communist ever.

Sino-Soviet Split; they each accused each other of being "heretical" to Marxist ideals. Which is redundant now, since Russia is capitalist, and China honestly shouldn't be called communist ever.
Also since the two are good friends, part of a NATO alternative of sorts and are doing military exercises together.

Also since the two are good friends, part of a NATO alternative of sorts and are doing military exercises together.

Indeed. Not to mention their cooperation against US/EU influence in Central Asia.

Resource wars. Mainly for oil in around the Middle East, but there will also be competition for water, arable land, etc.

Dead on. I'm expecting the Resource Wars to start sometime around 2015-2020, increase in intensity gradually for the next decade or so as more and more resources become scarce or disappear entirely, and culminate around 2030, by which time practically every country with the capacity will be fighting every other. Th wars will end as country after country loses the ability to project power and/or falls to internal schism, tailing off in the 2040s.

The winners will be in control of sufficient resources to bootstrap themselves into previously unexplored resource areas, such as the deep ocean floors and the moon and asteroids. Everybody else winds up back in the 19th century, or worse.

Wait a minute, aren't China and Russia sworn allies? It was Russia that converted them to Red after all. :confused:
Sino-Russian relations deteriorated long before even the end of the Cold war.

Dead on. I'm expecting the Resource Wars to start sometime around 2015-2020, increase in intensity gradually for the next decade or so as more and more resources become scarce or disappear entirely, and culminate around 2030, by which time practically every country with the capacity will be fighting every other. Th wars will end as country after country loses the ability to project power and/or falls to internal schism, tailing off in the 2040s.

The winners will be in control of sufficient resources to bootstrap themselves into previously unexplored resource areas, such as the deep ocean floors and the moon and asteroids. Everybody else winds up back in the 19th century, or worse.

The winners will be those with:

Food
Water
Salt
Metals
Stone
Wood
Fossil Fuels
Biofuels
Etc.

and a few trading cities to ensure the goods get everywhere.



So, Iran and The Great Plains will win. NYC will lose.

ireland versus new ireland. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Ireland)
dam them.