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It's coming out in a few days, and I wanna know what people think.

I think it's ultimately not enough. It has some nice features and hardware, but for me, there aren't enough changes from the PS2 to warrant the massive price. Combine that with unexciting launch games and there isn't much that inspires me to purchase one, at least not yet. I don't know everything about the system, but after the XBox 360's streaming media system, the PS3 seems a step backwards.

I reserve judgement until it is actually released and I have played stuff on it.

Anything else would just be uninformed.

It's coming out in a few days, and I wanna know what people think.

I think it's ultimately not enough. It has some nice features and hardwar, but for me, there aren't enough changes from the PS2 to warrant the massive price. Combine that with unexciting launch games and there isn't much that inspires me to purchase one, at least not yet. I don't know everything about the system, but after the XBox 360's streaming media system, the PS3 seems a step backwards.

I happen to agree … not only was its follow through to the 360 way too late but it just does not have the promise of the past consoles by Sony. Though I am a computer gamer so what do I know :p

I happen to agree … not only was its follow through to the 360 way too late but it just does not have the promise of the past consoles by Sony. Though I am a computer gamer so what do I know :p

Maybe it's just me, but the PS3 isn't a large enough leap from the PS2. If it wasn't for the XBox 360, which, might I add, Microsoft has done a very good job with, the PS3 would be completely unwarranted. I think it's just "keeping up" system, so they'll have one of the generation, rather than anything new or exciting.

Maybe it's just me, but the PS3 isn't a large enough leap form the PS2. If it wasn't for the XBox 360, which, might I add, Microsoft has done a very good job with, the PS3 would be completely unwarranted. I think it's just "keeping up" system, so they'll have one of the generation, rather than anything new or exciting.

Yeah you figure with what ... like a year between the 360 and the ps3 release they could have packed some really cool compleatly different technology into that thing ...

What really hurt the PS3 is that the XBox 360 was about a year before it's time; anything the PS3 can do now will just be old news.

I won't be queueing up to buy one, they're really overpriced IMO. Maybe later when the price drops.

Gears of War for the 360 is probably the best game system game graphics wise that i have ever played. XBOX finally figured it out.

Gears of War for the 360 is probably the best game system game graphics wise that i have ever played. XBOX finally figured it out.

So far, the XBox 360 has two killer apps: Gears of War and Dead Rising.

i'm happy with my xbox360. more than.
why should i be interested in something that's more expensive, doesn't do the media centre stuff i want, and may only have marginally better graphics if at all?

Yeah you figure with what ... like a year between the 360 and the ps3 release they could have packed some really cool compleatly different technology into that thing ...

the blu-ray vs HDDVD battle that the two consoles are championing will be interesting.
my money's on HDDVD as, iirc, more hardware companies have signed up to support that format. plus blu-ray drives are expensive and unreliable, and same goes for the disks (why did Sony keep putting back the release of their new console? because of major problems with blu-ray technology...)

the blu-ray vs HDDVD battle that the two consoles are championing will be interesting.
my money's on HDDVD as, iirc, more hardware companies have signed up to support that format. plus blu-ray drives are expensive and unreliable, and same goes for the disks (why did Sony keep putting back the release of their new console? because of major problems with blu-ray technology...)

When other people could just be smart and go with samsungs proposed release
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/06/samsung-planning-dual-format-hd-dvd-blu-ray-disc-player/

hehehe

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/wii/ps3-vs-wii-193571.php

When other people could just be smart and go with samsungs proposed release
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/06/samsung-planning-dual-format-hd-dvd-blu-ray-disc-player/

hehehe

only one format will win out though, if history is a lesson, right? sony lost the betamax/VHS battle before of course

I'm indifferent to the PS3. I'm also indifferent to the X-Box 360, although I do like the Arcade thing with the hordes of old and indie games, but you can do pretty much the same thing for the PC with Google.

Considering I don't have time to play all the truly great PC games released, I'm probably not going to miss the very few really good games that come out on one of those consoles and not the PC.

And I'm not getting rid of my PC to get a console, for so many reasons :)

only one format will win out though, if history is a lesson, right? sony lost the betamax/VHS battle before of course

Yet DVD + and - R's are still going strong :) I guess it depends on if they can make players and recorders reasonably cheep that handle all the standards

If they do that soon enough they may have a chanse of keeping both alive I guess

Yet DVD + and - R's are still going strong :) I guess it depends on if they can make players and recorders reasonably cheep that handle all the standards

If they do that soon enough they may have a chanse of keeping both alive I guess

good point, but they're recording standards. dvd movies sold in shops are one or the other, are they not? i should expect that'll be the market that really matters, not the blank media market.
that said, maybe that market's time has come (or will in a few years) with increased legal movie download services and more evil DRM, maybe...

good point, but they're recording standards. dvd movies sold in shops are one or the other, are they not? i should expect that'll be the market that really matters, not the blank media market.
that said, maybe that market's time has come (or will in a few years) with increased legal movie download services and more evil DRM, maybe...

Yeah but the players are usualy both ... I guess in the end as long as the media is phisicaly compatable people with think of a way to support everything taking the pressure off the need for one standard (though the cost of development will keep there from being TOO many standards"

Yet DVD + and - R's are still going strong :) I guess it depends on if they can make players and recorders reasonably cheep that handle all the standards

Well, there isn't much difference between the two, IMO.

Well, there isn't much difference between the two, IMO.

Besides their encoding no … what is the real difference between blue-ray and hd dvd I mean the big difference is the track pitch and sequence. Other then that they use the same frequency and size laser so it should be a logical move program change not a size or laser difference

Besides their encoding no … what is the real difference between blue-ray and hd dvd I mean the big difference is the track pitch and sequence. Other then that they use the same frequency and size laser so it should be a logical move program change not a size or laser difference

Blu-Ray can hold a bit more, but it's apparently more expensive and harder to work with.

Blu-Ray can hold a bit more, but it's apparently more expensive and harder to work with.

Yeah because of the layout

Though the actual cost difference is because blu-ray have a thiner surface and a different lense material requiring more expensive materials and a different thinner manufacture process

It's coming out in a few days, and I wanna know what people think.

I think it's ultimately not enough. It has some nice features and hardware, but for me, there aren't enough changes from the PS2 to warrant the massive price. Combine that with unexciting launch games and there isn't much that inspires me to purchase one, at least not yet. I don't know everything about the system, but after the XBox 360's streaming media system, the PS3 seems a step backwards.
If you'd asked me a year ago, I'd have gone on and on about how awesome the PS3 would be, and how I'd be first in line to get one.

Now, there's absolutely no chance I'll buy one at launch time, and little chance I'll buy one at all.

The price tag is a joke. It costs as much as TWO other systems put together. More than half of it would be buying me a blu-ray player I don't want. There's not a single launch game that I feel I have to own, especially since the most recent Final Fantasy is for the PS2. Most of the power of the PS3 won't even be useful to me, since I'd have to buy a totally new TV just to be able to use many of the features.

I'm amazed and disappointed at how Sony has blown it with this system. I was so looking forward to it, but now I'm just going to get a Wii for a fraction of the cost and stick with the many great titles that will be out around launch time.

I reserve judgement until it is actually released and I have played stuff on it.

Anything else would just be uninformed.

Gay people play video games? I suppose you expect me to believe you waste hours upon hours in online forums as well as well (-_-)
Am I being sarcastic? I can't even tell anymore...

Playstation 3.

Must you ask?

It's RAW POTENTIAL! And it has RIIIIIDGE RACER! And it's only...599 USD!
PS3 FTW!!! [/fanboy]

Overpriced.

Yeah, Nintendo will do well with the Wii, not just because it's cheap and cool, but because Sony fucked up. But the real winner will be Microsoft; if things go how we predict, Microsoft will go into the next generation as top dog.

It's grossly overpriced. Powerful, certainly, the tech specs are very impressive, but everyone knows that cutting edge graphics don't make a game good. I think the Wii will be fantastic and really change how we play games, so I'm getting one after christmas:) Yay for downloading old games!

If you'd asked me a year ago, I'd have gone on and on about how awesome the PS3 would be, and how I'd be first in line to get one....Most of the power of the PS3 won't even be useful to me, since I'd have to buy a totally new TV just to be able to use many of the features.


So let me get this straight. You were looking forward to aquiring new cutting edge technology and then would rather complain that your TV isnt good enough? What were you expecting? A game system that would work better on a crappy TV? And Wii wont look or sound any better with a bad TV either.

Overpriced and over-hyped. I think Sony is charging too much for it, I don't doubt it'll be big, but no way I'll buy one. I'm looking forward to a Wii.

So let me get this straight. You were looking forward to aquiring new cutting edge technology and then would rather complain that your TV isnt good enough? What were you expecting? A game system that would work better on a crappy TV? And Wii wont look or sound any better with a bad TV either.
That's just the thing: my TV isn't crappy at all. It's just that I haven't got an extra $700 to buy a TV that can express the only really improved feature of the PS3 (the look of the games). Especially not after having to plunk down almost that much just for the system. If I've got to buy a whole new TV just to make a system worth playing, then that system ain't worth owning. In my opinion.

Furthermore, even if I had a crappy TV, that still doesn't change the point. The PS3 and Wii will look equally lousy on a crappy TV, but the Wii will cost a third as much and have much better games and even a little innovation in play mechanics. The PS3 is just a powered-up version of the PS2, and the price tag far exceeds the power-ups for anybody who (like me) is uninterested in blu-ray.

I didn't buy a new TV just for playing next-gen systems because I didn't expect that the look of the games would be the only reason to own these systems. Nintendo certainly decided not to go that way; there are plenty of reasons to own a Wii even if you've got a really shitty TV, not the least of which is the awesome titles they're releasing.

too expensive.

I think the real winner this generation will be the PC. Why? One word: DirectX 10.

I think the real winner this generation will be the PC. Why? One word: DirectX 10.

already on the xbox 360, no?

already on the xbox 360, no?

No, the XBox 360, nor any other next gen console, will get DirectX 10. The ONLY graphics cards capable of DX10 are the GeForce 8800 GTS and GTX; they were released on Tuesday, and they are not in any consoles.

already on the xbox 360, no?

No.

But, on the bright side, you don't need a new OS (perhaps - there was talk of a new release of DX9 that was DX10 in all but name) and new graphics card to take advantage of it.

My Crossfire X1900s will be keeping my living room warm for some time, I think.

No, the XBox 360, nor any other next gen console, will get DirectX 10. The ONLY graphics cards capable of DX10 are the GeForce 8800 GTS and GTX; they were released on Tuesday, and they are not in any consoles.
You can't really directly compare the PS3 or Wii to DirectX because they use, I imagine, entirely different APIs. The X-Box, of course, does use a DirectX variant.

No, the XBox 360, nor any other next gen console, will get DirectX 10. The ONLY graphics cards capable of DX10 are the GeForce 8800 GTS and GTX; they were released on Tuesday, and they are not in any consoles.

ah.
shame my new laptop won't be able to run it either then :(
(that said, i'm happy with the graphics quality on the 360... don't *need* anything better)

You can't really directly compare the PS3 or Wii to DirectX because they use, I imagine, entirely different APIs. The X-Box, of course, does use a DirectX variant.

Of course. But their graphics chips, if used for a PC card, wouldn't be capable of DX10 anyway.

I got my hands on a Wii yesterday, for about two hours.

If I wasn't sold before, I sure as hell am now. I just need to figure out a way to make 323.99 or so in 8 or so days. Anyone need an over-priced, under-experienced male hooker?

Wii is coming out when? Honestly I've not followed it, but when it's out I'll buy it.

Got to wait awhile for it to come in England and then I will wait for the price to drop. I'm looking forward to it, maybe it lacks the wow factor but I like the look of some of the games coming out and is better then the PS2, capable of doing more then I suspect will be seen early on but I will be interested to hear if others enjoy it.

I am concerned about the new controllers and lack of vibration.

I am concerned about the new controllers and lack of vibration.

the new PS3 controllers look either a) very uncomfortable, b) a joke, or c) a misshapen dildo/bannana.


the 360 controllers are where its at :) (largely because they're near identical to the old Dreamcast controllers, and they kicked ass!)

Blu Ray
need I say more?

the new PS3 controllers look either a) very uncomfortable, b) a joke, or c) a misshapen dildo/bannana.

You're thinking of the prototype controller. It got dropped because of the backlash. Their current controller is... *gasp* exactly the same as the PS2 controller. Except there's no vibration, and it's wireless.

Ridge Racer!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll get this out of the way now. Consoles suck.


As for my opinion on the PS3: Sony has the worst controllers since the Super Nintendo, yet they are the only ones who refuse to update. It would be like Dell shipping computers with Windows ME.

As for my opinion on the PS3: Sony has the worst controllers since the Super Nintendo, yet they are the only ones who refuse to update. It would be like Dell shipping computers with Windows ME.

Actually, it'd be like Dell shipping computers with a two button ball mouse.

Not innovative, overpriced and plagued with design problems. If it lives for three years it might stand to be awesome, but right now it's got flaws upon flaws.

Although itl probably sell out within minutes, the PS3 is, on paper, a total disaster. And bearing in mind that the graphics chip is only a geforce 7900GT, you could put together a similarly specced PC for less.

They said it was gonna be the bestest thing ever and it turns out the only advantage it has is a blu ray drive. If only there was a reason to have one of those. Its not like when the PS2 was a makeshift DVD player. There are no bluray films to play, and by the time there are a player will be about a hundred dollars.

Essentially its just a 360 with a useless disc drive and twice the price. On teh good side, when sony goes bankrupt we could buy the name for a pittance and start releasing sony brand merchandise.

Actually, it'd be like Dell shipping computers with a two button ball mouse.

My HP came with on of those.

Besides, a two button ball mouse just isn't the same level of suck as the PS controllers.

I'm buying one. So pretty fucking positive.

I'm buying one. So pretty fucking positive.

This is the first time I've had to disagree with you. Seriously dude, don't buy one. Bad investment.

This is the first time I've had to disagree with you. Seriously dude, don't buy one. Bad investment.
Final Fantasy, Tekken 6 and many other staple games are reason enough to buy it for me.

There's a first time for everything anyway. :)

Final Fantasy, Tekken 6 and many other staple games are reason enough to buy it for me.

There's a first time for everything anyway. :)

But all that money. you could buy a Wii and a second hand car. or a small boat. or a sofa. imagine sitting on a big comfy sofa playing with your Wii. Sony deserve failure and their depending on die hard fans like you to bail them out. with money.

My HP came with on of those.

Besides, a two button ball mouse just isn't the same level of suck as the PS controllers.

I think that the PS controllers are the best controllers ever made and I am glad that they don't change them much, they got it right on the first try.

$600 is too much for my poor soul, unfortunately...I just can't get into XBox, Forza is the only racing title that appeals to me and racing titles are what I'm about. Though, if the next Gran Turismo doesn't have online then screw it.

But since I have some expensive equipment to buy that will make me money (theoretically) it'll be a long wait for me to buy a system, and by then second and third wave titles will be out for the PS3 and it won't be much of a conundrum for me.

I think that the PS controllers are the best controllers ever made and I am glad that they don't change them much, they got it right on the first try.

*head explodes*

But all that money. you could buy a Wii and a second hand car. or a small boat. or a sofa. imagine sitting on a big comfy sofa playing with your Wii. Sony deserve failure and their depending on die hard fans like you to bail them out. with money.
And play what on it? There isn't almost a single game on the Wii I'd play, and not a single one on the X360 I'd rather get on the PC. Sony is the only company with a lineup that interests me.

I think its too expensive for right now. If anything I'm just going to get a 360. Dead Rising is reason enough for me to buy one.

And play what on it? There isn't almost a single game on the Wii I'd play, and not a single one on the X360 I'd rather get on the PC. Sony is the only company with a lineup that interests me.

I will concede defeat on that point. Youve found the one good reason to buy a PS3. Or any console for that matter. its still overpriced though.

I will concede defeat on that point. Youve found the one good reason to buy a PS3. Or any console for that matter. its still overpriced though.
I'm going to be patient and buy it a little later. Sony will likely lower the price if its sales don't do well, or if it merely wants to boost them. I have loads of uni-work, games to play on the PC and other things that keep me busy, so I am in no rush. :)

*head explodes*

What? It fits comfortably in my hands, the buttons fall naturally under my fingers and I can use the controller for hours and hours and not cramp up or feel any discomfort. Everything is natural and I don't have to reach or search for any of the buttons, a pretty good trick with eight buttons and two sticks. Couldn't ask for more. The Xbox and Nintendo controllers seem like their misguided "Simon" style games that someone tried to make a video game controllers. I'll take the PS controller any day, best I've ever used.

What? It fits comfortably in my hands, the buttons fall naturally under my fingers and I can use the controller for hours and hours and not cramp up or feel any discomfort. Everything is natural and I don't have to reach or search for any of the buttons, a pretty good trick with eight buttons and two sticks. Couldn't ask for more. The Xbox and Nintendo controllers seem like their misguided "Simon" style games that someone tried to make a video game controllers. I'll take the PS controller any day, best I've ever used.
I'm the exact opposite. I have to curl my thumbs so much to hit the X button (which seems to be the main button) so much my thumbs are cramped in an hour. Being a PC gamer, all the buttons an all the controllers are easy to hit. Unless I've been playing PS for too long; then I can't get the X button to well.

And play what on it? There isn't almost a single game on the Wii I'd play, and not a single one on the X360 I'd rather get on the PC. Sony is the only company with a lineup that interests me.

Uhhh... Dead Rising? Gears of War? They're both considered spectacular.

Uhhh... Dead Rising? Gears of War? They're both considered spectacular.
And like I said, interests me. I'm into RPG's and fighters really.

I'm the exact opposite. I have to curl my thumbs so much to hit the X button (which seems to be the main button) so much my thumbs are cramped in an hour. Being a PC gamer, all the buttons an all the controllers are easy to hit. Unless I've been playing PS for too long; then I can't get the X button to well.

Ah, you're doing it wrong. I lay my thumb across the X and square buttons and hit the X with the part of my thumb under my knuckle, I can role from X to square pretty quickly that way. Came from the pre-stick/analog racing games.

I know diddly squat, from experience. They keep upgrading to make more money obvioulsy, but if it works as intended (ha ha -- always gonna be bugs) with games (online games), DVD and internet access available it would probably be neat. I'd have to know their games tho. If the games suck .. or their system sucks .. they suck, pretty much. As long as they get their gaming right, they will be ok. Gamers don't give a shit about playing DVDs or accessing the internet(outside their gaming) through their gaming console. Others will tho.

Lets see PS3 has way more potential as a next-gen console than Xbox 1.5. It has better games MGS4, Unreal Tournament 2007 and Resistance: Fall of Man are what first spring to mind. It's only weakness right now is its price and limited availability. I am hoping to get one sometime this year, but I wont get my hopes up.

Also for the arguement regarding console prices compared to PCs of a similar calibur. I have not seen a single high end computer whose price was less than $800. Furthermore the mere fact that every 1 or 2 years a PC Gamer has to update his gaming rig to be able to run the latest games makes buying a console far more financially efficent.

Lets see PS3 has way more potential as a next-gen console than Xbox 1.5. It has better games MGS4, Unreal Tournament 2007 and Resistance: Fall of Man are what first spring to mind. It's only weakness right now is its price and limited availability. I am hoping to get one sometime this year, but I wont get my hopes up.

UT2007 will be far better on PC than PS3.

And MGS4 and Resistance have nothing on GoW and Dead Rising.

UT2007 will be far better on PC than PS3.

And MGS4 and Resistance have nothing on GoW and Dead Rising.
If you have a good enough rig to play it.
Dead Rising sucked but GoW is supposed to be pretty good. But Im not going to buy a console on the promise of 1 or 2 great games.

If you have a good enough rig to play it.
Dead Rising sucked but GoW is supposed to be pretty good. But Im not going to buy a console on the promise of 1 or 2 great games.

Dead Rising sucked? Not according to most major publications. And GoW is getting spectacular reviews too.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928326.asp
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928234.asp

Dead Rising sucked? Not according to most major publications. And GoW is getting spectacular reviews too.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928326.asp
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928234.asp

Dead Rising-An average score 85% is not spectacular. Spectacular would be in the 90-100% range Not worth paying $60 for it atleast. That said I have played it and the gameplay didnt really appeal to me.

And again I acknowledge the GoW looks like a great game, if I had an Xbox 360 I would definitely buy it.

BTW IGN has recently reviewed Resistance and has given it a 9.1.

Dead Rising-An average score 85% is not spectacular. Spectacular would be in the 90-100% range Not worth paying $60 for it atleast. That said I have played it and the gameplay didnt really appeal to me.

And again I acknowledge the GoW looks like a great game, if I had an Xbox 360 I would definitely buy it.

BTW IGN has recently reviewed Resistance and has given it a 9.1.

GoW got 9.4 :p

The only PS3 game that comes close to making me want a PS3 is Mercenaries 2, and I'm not going to buy a console that's the price of a crap car to play it.

GoW got 9.4 :p

The only PS3 game that comes close to making me want a PS3 is Mercenaries 2, and I'm not going to buy a console that's the price of a crap car to play it.

Your loss. *shrugs*

This pretty much sums up how I feel
Playstation 3 will retail for massive damage for fans around the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqzB_nJMMOk

I wonder if Sony will get into the habit of killing PS3s with updates like Mircosoft?

Yeah, Nintendo will do well with the Wii, not just because it's cheap and cool, but because Sony fucked up. But the real winner will be Microsoft; if things go how we predict, Microsoft will go into the next generation as top dog.

I guess after being on top for two generations you get cocky. Nintendo was only on top for two as well.

You're thinking of the prototype controller. It got dropped because of the backlash. Their current controller is... *gasp* exactly the same as the PS2 controller. Except there's no vibration, and it's wireless.

It's a bit smaller and lighter.

I'm buying one. So pretty fucking positive.

Shouldn't you be in line by now?

I'm indifferent. I'm sick of everyone saying "Sony's done; they're fucked; they're going to go bankrupt from the PS3" because they're not. The PS3 will be widely successful, that much I'm sure. Is it personally worth the money? Not quite yet...

To make it worth that, they have to put out Syphon Filter on the PS3 and I would race to the store and drop six hundred bucks like it's nothing.

I'm indifferent. I'm sick of everyone saying "Sony's done; they're fucked; they're going to go bankrupt from the PS3" because they're not. The PS3 will be widely successful, that much I'm sure. Is it personally worth the money? Not quite yet...

Aren't their profits WAY down, if the PS3 fails it might just take the company with it, or at least cripple it for a while.

Aren't their profits WAY down, if the PS3 fails it might just take the company with it, or at least cripple it for a while.

Even if their profits are down (I don't know if they are so I can't comment), the PS3's not going to fail. I don't think it will be as successful as the PS2 (at least, initially), but I'm confident it won't fail. Sony's got a hardcore fanbase that is more than willing to shell out the cash for the system they believe is superior.

That said, if the Wii (particularily the Wiimote) doesn't live up to the hype, Nintendo is going to be in for serious shit.

And Gears of War is bad ass.

Aren't their profits WAY down, if the PS3 fails it might just take the company with it, or at least cripple it for a while.

They probably got PS4 in R&D already, so I doubt it.
(Seriously, they have plans to make a PS4)

They probably got PS4 in R&D already, so I doubt it.
(Seriously, they have plans to make a PS4)

You'll likely see a PS10 someday, so that doesn't really surprise me. :p

You'll likely see a PS10 someday, so that doesn't really surprise me. :p
I can see it now:

PS10: Now with holograms and virtual reality!
Only costs $2500!!!!!

Even if their profits are down (I don't know if they are so I can't comment), the PS3's not going to fail. I don't think it will be as successful as the PS2 (at least, initially), but I'm confident it won't fail. Sony's got a hardcore fanbase that is more than willing to shell out the cash for the system they believe is superior.

That said, if the Wii (particularily the Wiimote) doesn't live up to the hype, Nintendo is going to be in for serious shit.

And Gears of War is bad ass.

So your saying Sony can survive on their fanbase but Nintendo can't?

They probably got PS4 in R&D already, so I doubt it.
(Seriously, they have plans to make a PS4)

I am so sick of that name :(

So your saying Sony can survive on their fanbase but Nintendo can't?



I am so sick of that name :(

I didn't say Nintendo would go under. I'm not even suggesting that. I am saying, however, that if the Wii[-mote, in specific] isn't everything that it's being built up to be, Nintendo is going to lose a great share of this race and have millions of disappointed people, myself included.

Meh, i'm getting a Wii, cheap, fun, with about as much hadrwear as a 360 and it's got the new Zelda...

I didn't say Nintendo would go under. I'm not even suggesting that. I am saying, however, that if the Wii[-mote, in specific] isn't everything that it's being built up to be, Nintendo is going to lose a great share of this race and have millions of disappointed people, myself included.

I ues the wii-mote for about 2 hours yesterday, got to play a bit of Twilight Princess and almost every Wii Sports and Wii Play game. It takes a while to get used to if you have to use the pointer. But the bottom line is it works well, it's fun (Wii Play was rather challenging (I <3 Charge!)), and neither of the other can offer that sort of experince (for now). SIXAXIS may have 6 degrees of freedom, but there is only so much you can do with that because they retain the two-handed design.

Depends on the price for me - but I'd use PS3 as video player only.

I'd just installed my new XFX nVidia 7600GT (580Mghz core/750Mhz memory) today.

I'm gonna get a GeForce 8800, so my comp will be my premium next gen machine. But I have a 360, and I can't wait for the modding on that to get up (a modded original XBox was fucking hardcore).

I'm gonna get a GeForce 8800, so my comp will be my premium next gen machine. But I have a 360, and I can't wait for the modding on that to get up (a modded original XBox was fucking hardcore).

The problem with XBOX 360, XBOX and PS3 (and other consoles) for me that are they are locked down so badly. People have to resort to modding the hardware to do things they want it to so. I like my PC because if it's not good enough I can patch something or replace a part without having to hack into it most of the time.

The problem with XBOX 360, XBOX and PS3 (and other consoles) for me that are they are locked down so badly. People have to resort to modding the hardware to do things they want it to so. I like my PC because if it's not good enough I can patch something or replace a part without having to hack into it most of the time.

That's an idea I had for a console: it'd have a mod-friendly build, so people could do stuff with it. One of my favourites with my ModBox is the trainers; if a game is too hard, I just train it!

That's an idea I had for a console: it'd have a mod-frienly build, so people could do stuff with it. One of my favourites with my ModBox is the trainers; if a game is too hard, I just train it!

Some people think modding is silly and should be illegal but consoles are just computers to me, and computers are the designed to be moddable. Hope the idea turns into reality :p

I can see it now:

PS10: Now with holograms and virtual reality!
Only costs $2500!!!!!

I still want to see what they do when it comes time for PS64.

I still want to see what they do when it comes time for PS64.

PS64: Enter a new world (literally)
cost: You can't afford this.

PS64: Enter a new world (literally)
cost: You can't afford this.

I expect legal issues concerning the Nintendo 64. :D

I expect legal issues concerning the Nintendo 64. :D

Nah, Nintendo will be bankrupt by then. Or bought by Sony. :eek:

Nah, Nintendo will be bankrupt by then. Or bought by Sony. :eek:

Lies! VIVA NINTENDO!!!!

Japan will have launched the country into outer-space by then, and there Nintendo may live on forever, sending the occasional space-Nintendo to the true believers on Earth.

Lies! VIVA NINTENDO!!!!

Japan will have launched the country into outer-space by then, and there Nintendo may live on forever, sending the occasional space-Nintendo to the true believers on Earth.

Did I say Sony bought Nintendo? I think I might've got it mixed up... or did I?

I can see it now:

PS10: Now with holograms and virtual reality!
Only costs $2500!!!!!

Yah know with inflation $2500 may not be as much as it used to.

Shouldn't you be in line by now?
No, I haven't really got the time right now to devote to PS 3 (or any console-) games. So I can afford to be patient.

I expect legal issues concerning the Nintendo 64. :D

I predict that compared to the PS3, the PS64 will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings in Europe will own it.

I predict that compared to the PS3, the PS64 will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings in Europe will own it.
Twice? Try 2000 times as powerful. :D Sony likes big numbers. The console will be so smart, it'll play you.

Twice? Try 2000 times as powerful. :D Sony likes big numbers. The console will be so smart, it'll play you.

Oh yeah, that's what they said about the PS2. I distinctly remember them saying that it had enough power to launch a guided missile. I still laugh at the mental image of the PS2 controller, with it's X button, it's O button, it's triangle button, and then, next to that, the "Launch Soviet Missiles" button.

What might have been:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1514/sovietps2hm7.jpg

Oh, come on! Nobody liked my Comrade-Shock™?

Oh, come on! Nobody liked my Comrade-Shock™?

I couldn't think of a response witty enough to sit in such a post's shadow.

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well, I've just heard that the PS3 is NOT backwards compatable. so I will be waiting to see the library before buying.

well, I've just heard that the PS3 is NOT backwards compatable. so I will be waiting to see the library before buying.

It IS backwards compatible... to SOME games. But which ones are not determined. So it's really roullette every time you put a PS1/PS2 game in.

It IS backwards compatible... to SOME games. But which ones are not determined. So it's really roullette every time you put a PS1/PS2 game in.
rather unusual... unless it's only games on the blue/purplish colored disks...


hmmm....

rather unusual... unless it's only games on the blue/purplish colored disks...


hmmm....

No; compatibilty is determined based on each game. The games have to meet somesuchorother standards to be backwards compatible. Which ones are UNKNOWN!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

I'll pass on the PS3. I'll be getting a Wii.

I'll pass on the PS3. I'll be getting a Wii.

The Wii is entirely backwards compatible. It can play ALL Gamecube games... :)

It IS backwards compatible... to SOME games. But which ones are not determined. So it's really roullette every time you put a PS1/PS2 game in.

I've never heard that--that's how the 360 is. I've heard repeatedly that it's backwards compatiable with all PS and PS2 games.

I've never heard that--that's how the 360 is. I've heard repeatedly that it's backwards compatiable with all PS and PS2 games.

I think there are a few that won't be but as I understand it, there won't be many that are not.

My opinion is that I want the PS3 and that NationStates should start a fund to buy one for me.

I think there are a few that won't be but as I understand it, there won't be many that are not.

My opinion is that I want the PS3 and that NationStates should start a fund to buy one for me.

I agree. The fund should be a purchase of 60gig versions for us both.

C'mon, NSG, help your fellow posters out. ;)

I agree. The fund should be a purchase of 60gig versions for us both.

C'mon, NSG, help your fellow posters out. ;)
Indeed, it's our birthright. We demand a PS 3 (60GB).

Indeed, it's our birthright. We demand a PS 3 (60GB).

I have a wooden nickel I can donate. Will that help?:D

I have a wooden nickel I can donate. Will that help?:D
No, but selling one of your kidneys on Ebay might. :)

Won't be getting one. Sony lost me after the PS2. The PS2 was such a hassle that even its superior library wasn't enough for me to buy games for it.

And most of the best games are now producing for all three gaming companies. I already own a 360 (it pwns) and I'll be getting a Wii, I think.

The PS3 is completely backwards compatible, whoever is saying otherwise is ill-informed. The Xbox 360 is not however.

I agree. The fund should be a purchase of 60gig versions for us both.

C'mon, NSG, help your fellow posters out. ;)

Ok... but to keep people who really don't need the help in getting the PS3, I think we should stop at one (60 gig) for each of us. (We'll get it much more quickly this way.)

The PS3 is completely backwards compatible, whoever is saying otherwise is ill-informed. The Xbox 360 is not however.

The 360 may as well be, since most of the good games are already backwards compatible.

The PS3 is completely backwards compatible, whoever is saying otherwise is ill-informed. The Xbox 360 is not however.

Unless this is wrong:

"Yes. Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 will be almost entirely compatible with PlayStation 2 and PSOne software. Games that do not work have not been disclosed."
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html

The PS3 is completely backwards compatible, whoever is saying otherwise is ill-informed. The Xbox 360 is not however.

the xbox 360 will be compatible with all original xbox games. some games work out of the box, some games requre an update to play on the 360, and a few do not yet have that update available (but i understand that all games will be supported in time)

Unless this is wrong:

"Yes. Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 will be almost entirely compatible with PlayStation 2 and PSOne software. Games that do not work have not been disclosed."
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/636/636848p3.html
I stand corrected. The PS3 will be ALMOST completely backwards compatable at launch.

No, but selling one of your kidneys on Ebay might. :)

Naahhh, I think I want to keep those. I seem to still be using them. It was a good thought, but methinks you'll have to settle for that nickel. Look on the bright side, a wooden nickel might be worth more than a real one.