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Which pays better--Royal Navy or US Navy? (et al.)

Sel Appa
10-11-2006, 03:39
1. Which pays better: the Royal Navy or US Navy?
2. Does the Royal Navy have an abbreviation like USN? RN...? HMN...? HMRN...?
3. Can an American join the Royal Navy?
4. Can a Briton join the US Navy?

I'm thinking of joing the Navy in the future...
Infinite Revolution
10-11-2006, 03:48
1. Which pays better: the Royal Navy or US Navy? don't know
2. Does the Royal Navy have an abbreviation like USN? RN...? HMN...? HMRN...?
3. Can an American join the Royal Navy? as part of an exchange programme, yes
4. Can a Briton join the US Navy? as part of an exchange programme, yes

I'm thinking of joing the Navy in the future...
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King Arthur the Great
10-11-2006, 03:50
Both come with different benefits, different pensions, so its kind of tough to say for sure who pays better, especially when looking at all of the different duties present.

As for title: HRMN. Stands for: His (currently Her) Royal Majesty's Navy.

And no for the last two. You have to be a citizen of each one's respective nation to qualify for service. Canadians, I think, however, can join the HRMN.
Call to power
10-11-2006, 03:50
1. Which pays better: the Royal Navy or US Navy?

well I heard the army pays better for the British no idea about the navy though (but I suspect its the same case small well trained forces and all)

2. Does the Royal Navy have an abbreviation like USN? RN...? HMN...? HMRN...?

I think its just RN but I may be wrong on this

3. Can an American join the Royal Navy?

so long as you've been a U.K resident for at least 2 years (though that might be for commonwealth members)

4. Can a Briton join the US Navy?

no idea

I'm thinking of joing the Navy in the future...

Good for you remember to study!!! *stresses point*

edit: and fill in the interest form (http://dnr.dataforcegroup.co.uk/form1.asp) (and if your under 17 join camouflage even though its supposedly army for free shit!!!)
Sel Appa
10-11-2006, 03:59
Only problem is Navy requires more devotion than the Army...I probably won't join, but would like to.
NERVUN
10-11-2006, 04:04
You can join the US Navy if you're a US resident, irregardless of citizenship (and it would qualify you for US citizenship if you did so. I don't know if the Navy would allow you to be duel citizen or if the UK would either).
Call to power
10-11-2006, 04:06
Only problem is Navy requires more devotion than the Army...I probably won't join, but would like to.

what makes you say that :confused:

edit: why not run away to the French foreign legion that’s my backup should my life fall to pieces
NERVUN
10-11-2006, 04:11
I think its just RN but I may be wrong on this
Wiki also thinks it's RN.
Sel Appa
10-11-2006, 05:24
what makes you say that :confused:

edit: why not run away to the French foreign legion that’s my backup should my life fall to pieces

Actually that would not be an entire impossibilty...I take French in school(up to year 5 now) :)
Todsboro
10-11-2006, 05:53
3. Can an American join the Royal Navy?
I'm thinking of joing the Navy in the future...

I didn't think so, although I thought we had an exception for Israel. But apparently I'm wrong.

http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html

Basically, what it says (under #7) is that you can't become an officer or an NCO. That would forfeit your US citizenship. But you could still enlist. Click on the 'law' links in the linked text; it'll give you the actual relevant U.S.C.

Of course, I would suggest asking someone in the State Dept as opposed to some anonymous internet troll such as myself. :)

Best of luck, whatever you decide to do.
Ollieland
10-11-2006, 10:59
1. Which pays better: the Royal Navy or US Navy?
2. Does the Royal Navy have an abbreviation like USN? RN...? HMN...? HMRN...?
3. Can an American join the Royal Navy?
4. Can a Briton join the US Navy?

I'm thinking of joing the Navy in the future...

1 - The RN pays better but the USN has better pension benefits
2 - RN
3 - No. Only British subjects and commenwealth citizens can (so you can if your Irish, Canadian, Australian, South African etc)
4 - I don't know that one
Ollieland
10-11-2006, 11:00
edit: why not run away to the French foreign legion that’s my backup should my life fall to pieces

Been there and done that, I really wouldn't recommend it :eek:
Soviestan
10-11-2006, 11:03
Been there and done that, I really wouldn't recommend it :eek:

whys that?
Pledgeria
10-11-2006, 11:07
From the U.S. Navy's Recruitment web site (http://www.navy.com/about/before/enlistmentstandards/#citizenship):

Citizenship
As a U.S. citizen* you may enlist in the Navy (assuming you meet the other enlistment standards). But what if you are a non-citizen? You can still enlist as long as you meet the following requirements:

Entered the United States on a permanent residence visa or have an Alien Registration Green Card, and
Established a bona fide residence, and
Established a home of record in the United States

To verify your eligibility to enlist, contact a recruiter.

* For enlistment purposes, citizens of the United States include citizens of the following: Guam, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, the Federated States of Micronesia, and the Republic of the Marshall Islands.

As far as the pay goes, as an E-6 in the U.S. Navy with 5 years in, I'd have to say my pay is fine. But the benefits make up for it.
Ollieland
10-11-2006, 11:43
whys that?

Because its fucking brutal, thats why
Sel Appa
10-11-2006, 17:41
Because its fucking brutal, thats why

From what I've read, it's like a roach motel for a few years and then they expect you to stay longer...