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Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars

Dephire
10-11-2006, 03:38
Wow! Nice cast for the new Command & Conquer game! Wait, I thought Kane died? Hold on! The next C&C title was supposed to be post-Red Alert and pre-Tiberium Sun?! WTF?

Ah, who cares? It looks alright for now!

Official Site (http://www.ea.com/commandandconquer/)

Fansite (http://www.commandconquer3.com/)

Gamespy: Preview of C&C 3 (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/command-conquer-3-tiberium-wars/708024p1.html)

Secondary Official Site (http://www.ea.com/official/cc/cc3/us/release.jsp)
Infinite Revolution
10-11-2006, 03:42
give us a link give us a link give us a link give us a link give us a link give us a link!
Andaluciae
10-11-2006, 03:42
Confusion: Linky, linky?
Jenrak
10-11-2006, 03:42
Kane is back. Kane lives through the technology of peace! Peace through power! Rise, brothers!
New Naliitr
10-11-2006, 03:45
Tell me they brought the cheesy cinematics back....

I wouldn't play Generals because there were no cheesy cinematics. No C&C game is complete without cheesy cinematics.
Jenrak
10-11-2006, 03:47
Joseph Kucan is back so I'm guessing they'll have cheesy cinematics once more.
Andaluciae
10-11-2006, 03:48
Joseph Kucan is back so I'm guessing they'll have cheesy cinematics once more.

OMG beautiful cheesy cinematics!
Kyronea
10-11-2006, 04:50
The only interesting Command and Conquer games were Red Alert and Red Alert II. The rest all sucked ass, so this one will too.
GreaterPacificNations
10-11-2006, 14:15
Tell me they brought the cheesy cinematics back....

I wouldn't play Generals because there were no cheesy cinematics. No C&C game is complete without cheesy cinematics.

Are you crazy? Generals was better than any of the other Command and Conquers. Plus they did have cheesy cinematics, however they were all news reports in between missions and cutscenes.
Fassigen
10-11-2006, 14:17
Command and Conquer - that point and click "game?"
Khazistan
10-11-2006, 14:20
Command and Conquer - that point and click "game?"

Yes, command and conquer, that real time strategy game.
Compulsive Depression
10-11-2006, 14:21
Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell.
Ifreann
10-11-2006, 14:22
Kane is back. Kane lives through the technology of peace! Peace through power! Rise, brothers!

Kane lives in death! Kane lives in death! Kane LIVES!
Fassigen
10-11-2006, 14:25
Yes, command and conquer, that real time strategy game.

That you point and click in?
Khazistan
10-11-2006, 14:29
That you point and click in?

Yeeees, but unless you want to be extremely pedantic about naming, a point a click game usually requires little user input and is generally rather simple and boring. You could call nearly every PC game a point and click game if you say you just point and click. So C&C is a real time strategy game.
Ifreann
10-11-2006, 14:30
Yeeees, but unless you want to be extremely pedantic about naming, a point a click game usually requires little user input and is generally rather simple and boring. You could call nearly every PC game a point and click game.

I think his point is that C&C, or possibly all RTS games, bore him.
Fassigen
10-11-2006, 14:34
I think his point is that C&C, or possibly all RTS games, bore him.

Merci, chérie.
Khazistan
10-11-2006, 14:43
I think his point is that C&C, or possibly all RTS games, bore him.

Well, Ok then.


Wow! Nice cast for the new Command & Conquer game! Wait, I thought Kane died? Hold on! The next C&C title was supposed to be post-Red Alert and pre-Tiberium Sun?! WTF?

Ah, who cares? It looks alright for now!

Do you have a link then, any new info?

I dont know why everyone hates generals, it's the best C&C so far! Just combine that with some cheesy cinematics and we have another winner.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 17:07
Thing is, there are alot of sites to choose from! :p

PCMag
Official Site
GameInformer (I think)
Gamespot
IGN (I think)

Which one?
Ralina
10-11-2006, 17:33
I miss Tanya. She had such a nice laugh.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 17:37
The thing I have noticed is that I haven't seen much of the previous cast members. Hell, Michael Ironside even said that he doesn't act on crappy stages, so that should be enough said to tell the public that these cinematics are to be extremely well done. Muwahahahhahahahaa!
Cullons
10-11-2006, 18:13
Merci, chérie.

What about the Master of Orion series
or
the Total War series.

please say it isn't so:eek:
Dephire
10-11-2006, 20:07
I have updated the first post to include some sites...
Dephire
10-11-2006, 20:11
More sites to come soon. Those were just the ones on the top of the Google Search list.
Fassigen
10-11-2006, 20:43
What about the Master of Orion series
or
the Total War series.

please say it isn't so:eek:

I cannot comply.
Jenrak
11-11-2006, 03:46
I would prefer a strategy game than any other.
Harlesburg
11-11-2006, 12:41
I loved Retaliation.
Yum, Tesla Tanks FTW!
Cullons
11-11-2006, 13:10
i wonder who the third faction will be?

Also the older games were pretty easy. All you had to do was prevent the ennemy from taking resources. so i always found them a bit boring
Non Aligned States
11-11-2006, 13:34
Also the older games were pretty easy. All you had to do was prevent the ennemy from taking resources. so i always found them a bit boring

Ground Control. Your small tactical force vs superior numbers and entrenched positions almost every single time. No resources to gather. Just your men to keep alive since they get experience and get carried forward throughout the campaign.
Dephire
11-11-2006, 20:23
I thought that all the games, up to a certain point, were fun. Only...if you went for a second round, you already knew what to do and where everything was...so it was like a very easy battle for ya.
Harlesburg
11-11-2006, 22:52
Ground Control. Your small tactical force vs superior numbers and entrenched positions almost every single time. No resources to gather. Just your men to keep alive since they get experience and get carried forward throughout the campaign.
That sounds pretty sweet.
I always hated sheding blood.
Well my own blood, i don't mind butchering the enemy.;)
Greater Trostia
11-11-2006, 23:43
If you can run over people with tanks and they make a juicy "squish" sound, this game will rock.

Otherwise, it has a nice engine and pretty graphics but just fails to live up to RA standards.
Dephire
14-11-2006, 22:44
Red Alert was good. But hopefully this game will deliver much better than all. Heck, if they have these actors involved, then it better be a good game! I just hope to all that is good that it won't require too much of a high quality PC.
Dephire
04-02-2007, 00:34
Due date is March 28th.
Three factions: GDI, NOD, and Aliens.
Loads of Content...
Northern Borders
04-02-2007, 01:27
I wont play it.

Why? Because I played the ORIGINAL Command & Conquer. Yes, the very first one.

Red Alert was great. Tyberium Sun too. Red Alert 2 was nice.

But after you´ve played all these C&C games, you realize they are all the same. And that is why I didnt play Generals and wont play this one too.

Anyway, with games like Spore, Supreme Commander, World in Conflict and Sins of a Solar Empire coming out this year, I dare say C&C will look pretty damn lame, specialy if it continues with the same gameplay that it has been copying the last 10 years.
Dephire
04-02-2007, 02:25
I wont play it.

Why? Because I played the ORIGINAL Command & Conquer. Yes, the very first one.

Red Alert was great. Tyberium Sun too. Red Alert 2 was nice.

But after you´ve played all these C&C games, you realize they are all the same. And that is why I didnt play Generals and wont play this one too.

Anyway, with games like Spore, Supreme Commander, World in Conflict and Sins of a Solar Empire coming out this year, I dare say C&C will look pretty damn lame, specialy if it continues with the same gameplay that it has been copying the last 10 years.

Yes, much of the same way of playing will be the same. However, because the developers at EA know how RTS games are a bit...repetitive, they are striving towards changing theirs to be different. Upgraded graphics, ability to put more units on screen, better storyline, better online integration, better particle effects. All I hope is that something new arises between GDI and NOD.
East Lithuania
04-02-2007, 03:02
Tell me they brought the cheesy cinematics back....

I wouldn't play Generals because there were no cheesy cinematics. No C&C game is complete without cheesy cinematics.

i saw a trailer of Kane.... looks like the cheesy cinematics has returned... YAYAYAYAYAAYAYAYAYAYAYAY
Kanabia
04-02-2007, 03:31
What about the Master of Orion series
or
the Total War series.

please say it isn't so:eek:

MOO isn't an RTS. It's turn-based (and the strategic portion of the Total War games is too).

Nothing like C&C. And MOO happens to be infinitely superior. ;)
Kanabia
04-02-2007, 03:39
Yes, much of the same way of playing will be the same. However, because the developers at EA know how RTS games are a bit...repetitive, they are striving towards changing theirs to be different. Upgraded graphics, ability to put more units on screen, better storyline, better online integration, better particle effects. All I hope is that something new arises between GDI and NOD.

So, basically it's the exact same gameplay adapted to the capabilities of modern hardware? How does that make it different? :p
Northern Borders
04-02-2007, 09:28
So, basically it's the exact same gameplay adapted to the capabilities of modern hardware? How does that make it different? :p

That is what Im talking about.
Jenrak
04-02-2007, 16:40
The interface functionality changes every time.
The Vuhifellian States
04-02-2007, 17:05
The only interesting Command and Conquer games were Red Alert and Red Alert II. The rest all sucked ass, so this one will too.

I am hating you so much right now.
Southeastasia
04-02-2007, 17:45
I voted "abstain" because it's a bit too soon to say...however, I'm being cautiously optimistic, as it's Electronic Arts at the helms, and I'm watching them closely to make sure they do a good job.
Northern Borders
04-02-2007, 18:57
The interface functionality changes every time.

Really? One ressource, energy plants, engeniers, menu on the right side, very small techtree (if any), and almost no unit variety.

Its been the same for years. In fact, its the same concept as Dune 2, which was one of the first RTS, and was the first RTS I´ve played.

Original games are like Starcraft, where each race has a diferent gameplay. In one game, Blizzard managed to get three diferent styles inside, while C&C always has the same gameplay every new game.

I loved the original one, and I still have it. It was fucking great. Too bad the following games didnt change much.
Greater Trostia
05-02-2007, 02:41
Yes, much of the same way of playing will be the same. However, because the developers at EA know how RTS games are a bit...repetitive, they are striving towards changing theirs to be different. Upgraded graphics, ability to put more units on screen, better storyline, better online integration, better particle effects. All I hope is that something new arises between GDI and NOD.

Supreme Commander is going to so totally pwn CC3 it won't be funny.
Harlesburg
06-02-2007, 01:54
If it's released on PSX i'll play it...
Dephire
06-02-2007, 21:29
I do not know about the PSX, but I do believe there is a playable demo on the 360 (correct me if I am wrong). No, the story is not the same. In fact, it is different than the previous storyline, but still holds relation to the original Tiberium Sun.

Wasn't Dune made by Westwood Studios?
The Lone Alliance
06-02-2007, 22:07
The only interesting Command and Conquer games were Red Alert and Red Alert II. The rest all sucked ass, so this one will too.
Red Alert II was too shallow. Too short as well. 12 missions, bah!

Generals was even worse, Zero hour was the only one with the news reports.
Dephire
06-02-2007, 22:46
Red Alert II was too shallow. Too short as well. 12 missions, bah!

Generals was even worse, Zero hour was the only one with the news reports.

I thought that the Tiberium Sun's way of Campaign was actually quite nice, being able to pick and choose which way you complete the mission tree.
The Infinite Dunes
06-02-2007, 23:53
*gets nostalgic*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHycoOExCPE

As to which C&C games are worth playing... well, if the majority of the game wasn't made before Westwood was acquired by EA then it ain't worth playing (this qualifier allows me to include Tiberian Sun). Everything after Tiberian Sun was just a money spinner. The first three at least had continuity as a story.

As for this latest addition - it will suck. Whilst C&C was never innovative it did have a cute story. This, being made by EA probably won't have a cute story. The whole engine is pretty much the same with no innovation, and the graphics are so-so.
The Lone Alliance
07-02-2007, 03:51
I thought that the Tiberium Sun's way of Campaign was actually quite nice, being able to pick and choose which way you complete the mission tree.

That was my favorite factor as well, especially all the bonus things you could do in the 9th GDI mission.

There were at least 7 seperate missions.

1 Destroy the Missiles Regular

2 Rescue Mutants
3 Destroy the Missiles with Mutants

4 Destroy Missile Supply
5 Destroy the Missiles without Nod supply base

6 Destroy Missile Supply with Mutants
7 Destroy the Missiles without Nod supply base with Mutants

8 Destroy Missile supply with mutants reaching secret train.
9 Destroy Power System
10 Destroy Missiles with power supply destroyed, Supply base destroyed, and Mutants

10 different ways for completing a single mission.

Clever.
Dephire
07-02-2007, 03:57
*Chuckles*

Ah, you could storm the main base and get your ass owned, or destroy the secondary base and then lay waste to the main base. Clever indeed. (Talking about a few of the GDI and NOD Primary and Secondary missions.)
The Lone Alliance
07-02-2007, 04:00
Yeah.

You know checking the Red Alert 2 intros on Youtube.

I can't believe that they had to edit stuff because of 9/11.

Who here has the orginal where the Statue of Liberty blows up in the intro?
The SDI
07-02-2007, 04:24
How can you think that C&C 3 will be bad?! First of all, they're going back to the original story line which made the game popular in the first place. Secondly, they're adding an entire new race- the alien species that sent the tiberium in the first place. That should be an interesting race to play as.

Has anyone seen the video for thee game?? If not, go on Google Video and look up C&C 3. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. Another thing I also liked- NOD is supposed to be more powerful than GDI. This should get interesting as well...
The Potato Factory
07-02-2007, 04:31
I voted "abstain" because it's a bit too soon to say...however, I'm being cautiously optimistic, as it's Electronic Arts at the helms, and I'm watching them closely to make sure they do a good job.

If Krispy Kream teamed up with someone's asshole to make shit-filled donuts, would your default policy be "cautious optimism"?
The Potato Factory
07-02-2007, 04:34
Also, what kind of FMVs are they using? The classic briefing FMVs, or the homo acting FMVs from TS?
New Stalinberg
07-02-2007, 04:48
How can you think that C&C 3 will be bad?! First of all, they're going back to the original story line which made the game popular in the first place. Secondly, they're adding an entire new race- the alien species that sent the tiberium in the first place. That should be an interesting race to play as.

Has anyone seen the video for thee game?? If not, go on Google Video and look up C&C 3. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. Another thing I also liked- NOD is supposed to be more powerful than GDI. This should get interesting as well...

Maybe because it isn't made by Westwood? That it was bought out by EA and the only reason it's a C&C game is because EA have the rights to slap the title on.
The SDI
07-02-2007, 04:58
Maybe because it isn't made by Westwood? That it was bought out by EA and the only reason it's a C&C game is because EA have the rights to slap the title on.

Eehh, so it's not made by Westwood?? Are you going to let a small change like that stop you from playing?? If so, that's your problem. I, though, intend on playing this no matter what. Besides, my friend is going to give me his copy anyway, so I won't have to pay for it. So I'm def not missing out on this game....
New Stalinberg
07-02-2007, 05:21
Eehh, so it's not made by Westwood?? Are you going to let a small change like that stop you from playing?? If so, that's your problem. I, though, intend on playing this no matter what. Besides, my friend is going to give me his copy anyway, so I won't have to pay for it. So I'm def not missing out on this game....

Small change?

You know why the C&C games were so succesful? Because they were made by a company who had a a great idea for some fine RTS games.

Now then, when the company is gone, (or rather, bought out) and the people who originally invented the C&C games are gone, why would a completley different company, who had not previously fully developed any C&C games be just as succesful as Westwood?

Quit lying to yourself.

The last game made by Westwood was RA2 and Yuri's Revenge which were mapped off the original C&C games. You know what I'm talking about, money gathering, building, combat, etc.

Now when EA makes a game called Command and Conquer that has absolutley no resemblance to any of the previous C&C games, but they call it "Command and Conquer:Generals", how is that a small change?

That's like if GM buys out another car company like Kia, completley changes everything about the Kia cars, but still call them Kia cars. Would Kia cars actually be Kia cars?

So no, I will not buy this abomination of "C&C 3" because of a "small change".
The Potato Factory
07-02-2007, 05:32
So no, I will not buy this abomination of "C&C 3" because of a "small change".

Even if it gets kickass reviews?
The Lone Alliance
07-02-2007, 06:08
Also, what kind of FMVs are they using? The classic briefing FMVs, or the homo acting FMVs from TS?
Both I think, but I liked them. Better than the RA2 ones which were 70% fanservice 20 percent cliches and 10% content.

Oh Most of Yuri's revenge was made by EA westwood only started on it Westwood. Maybe that's why I didn't like it.

Damn EA sucks.
The Potato Factory
07-02-2007, 06:29
Both I think, but I liked them. Better than the RA2 ones which were 70% fanservice 20 percent cliches and 10% content.

I liked the RA2 ones.
Dephire
07-02-2007, 16:35
The best ones by far were for Tiberium Sun. Might have been cheesy near the end of the GDI campaign, but it still was awesome.
Dephire
07-02-2007, 16:38
Maybe because it isn't made by Westwood? That it was bought out by EA and the only reason it's a C&C game is because EA have the rights to slap the title on.

It's not made by the studio, however it's still made by the key developers. (Yeah, apparently the only one's that left were the music writers and just a few programers.)
Khazistan
07-02-2007, 16:43
I wont play it.

Why? Because I played the ORIGINAL Command & Conquer. Yes, the very first one.

Red Alert was great. Tyberium Sun too. Red Alert 2 was nice.

But after you´ve played all these C&C games, you realize they are all the same. And that is why I didnt play Generals and wont play this one too.

Anyway, with games like Spore, Supreme Commander, World in Conflict and Sins of a Solar Empire coming out this year, I dare say C&C will look pretty damn lame, specialy if it continues with the same gameplay that it has been copying the last 10 years.

Man, you should play generals. It was the best C&C game in my opinion and I think its the only long running series of which I've play all the games. Its also rather different to the previous games and requires some actual tactical play rather than just producing loads of tanks.
Dephire
07-02-2007, 17:18
I'm sorry, but the troops in Generals sucked....They were all blocky.
Khazistan
07-02-2007, 17:20
I'm sorry, but the troops in Generals sucked....They were all blocky.

And the ones in the other games werent?

Besides, I didnt care for graphics that muchin RTS games. C&C games havent exactly been at the forefront in terms of graphics.
Southeastasia
07-02-2007, 17:22
If Krispy Kream teamed up with someone's asshole to make shit-filled donuts, would your default policy be "cautious optimism"?
No. And I fail to see that your remark has a large relevance and a point to my statement. I don't like Electronic Arts, but it appears that they actually, for once, have made a decent attempt to communicate to the gaming community...
Dephire
07-02-2007, 17:24
And the ones in the other games werent?

Besides, I didnt care for graphics that muchin RTS games. C&C games havent exactly been at the forefront in terms of graphics.

Rise of Nations had some decent troops...as did Warcraft.
Khazistan
07-02-2007, 18:00
If Krispy Kream teamed up with someone's asshole to make shit-filled donuts, would your default policy be "cautious optimism"?

Read penny-arcade.com much?
The Potato Factory
08-02-2007, 04:04
Read penny-arcade.com much?

Got all three books :D
Dephire
08-02-2007, 21:18
And the ones in the other games werent?

Besides, I didnt care for graphics that muchin RTS games. C&C games havent exactly been at the forefront in terms of graphics.

They could have at least tried to turn away from lego looking soldiers...
The Infinite Dunes
08-02-2007, 21:27
Got all three books :DBook...? You have more money than sense sirrah.
Dephire
08-02-2007, 21:32
Book...? You have more money than sense sirrah.

Back on track...:p

Penny Arcade is awesome though...
The Infinite Dunes
08-02-2007, 21:46
Back on track...:p

Penny Arcade is awesome though...I like some Penny arcade, but I normally require others to sort though it and present me with the good stuff. I prefer my webcomics laced with satire, preferably political satire.
http://www.partiallyclips.com/storage/20070124_Judge_lg.png

And this post is linked to thread because I think that instead of GDI always busting up Kane's gig I think they should jsut give him a bop on the nose.
Dephire
08-02-2007, 21:50
I like Kane's ideas...but he needs to turn away from Terrorism and go more...strategic. I think that's the term, I dunno, but with Kan controlling a large portion of the world, you would think he would be more...modern tactics. Instead of the hit and run tactics he is infamous for.
The Potato Factory
09-02-2007, 04:21
Book...? You have more money than sense sirrah.

The PA books are awesome! The commentary is hilarious. And it gives me a chance to read the old comics that I never would get around to normally.
Dephire
11-02-2007, 04:16
Ah, everyone loves the classics.
Cherny Land
11-02-2007, 04:52
I like Kane's ideas...but he needs to turn away from Terrorism and go more...strategic. I think that's the term, I dunno, but with Kan controlling a large portion of the world, you would think he would be more...modern tactics. Instead of the hit and run tactics he is infamous for.

You can take the monkey out of the tree, but you can´t take the tree out of the monkey.

Kane is the same, I suspect. :p
Relyc
11-02-2007, 05:00
It looks awsome, but two things stand out for me:

1. Its made by game-press EA, not by the original Westwood Studios"
2. Supreme Commander is coming...
Dephire
11-02-2007, 05:48
EA is a bit generic.
I've never heard of Supreme Commander, nor will I ever wish to.
I have EVERY C&C (thanks to the C&C First Decade), and I will shame myself to turn away.
New Stalinberg
11-02-2007, 06:28
It looks awsome, but two things stand out for me:

1. Its made by game-press EA, not by the original Westwood Studios"
2. Supreme Commander is coming...

Total Annihilation re-emerges from the ashes!!!
ReaperXXII
11-02-2007, 10:12
Initially, I was disappointed due to the fact that its not Red Alert 3. But now that I've gone back and played the original and Tiberian Sun more, I'm starting to get excited for this.

After all, you can't kill the messiah...

The PA books are awesome! The commentary is hilarious. And it gives me a chance to read the old comics that I never would get around to normally.

And that my friend, is fact.
Novus-America
11-02-2007, 10:42
I like the Tiberian storyline more, TBH. RA was fun and interesting (anyone up for an alternate history topic where the west allied with the Nazis instead of the Soviets?), but RA2 was too flashy for me. I'm looking forward to C&C3.
The Potato Factory
11-02-2007, 10:54
(anyone up for an alternate history topic where the west allied with the Nazis instead of the Soviets?)

I find that hard to believe. "Oh, thank you Adolf for invading us, now we'll help you fight Stalin." The Soviets would have had to nuke the US or something to make that happen.
Somniloquence
11-02-2007, 11:18
I may be wrong but I thought the premise was that Einstein had eliminated Hitler via time travel. There was a cinematic in, I think, Red Alert. So it was Allies and Germany not Allies and Nazis which makes more sense.
The Potato Factory
11-02-2007, 11:36
I may be wrong but I thought the premise was that Einstein had eliminated Hitler via time travel. There was a cinematic in, I think, Red Alert. So it was Allies and Germany not Allies and Nazis which makes more sense.

I was talking about an alternate history thread discussing the topic. Since serious alternate history discussions usually require some amount of realism...
Somniloquence
11-02-2007, 14:50
Sorry. I misunderstood.
Dephire
11-02-2007, 19:33
What I don't understand is, Why call it Command & Conquer 3? The only title with justification for the '3' would be Red Alert Three...but for C&C 3? Was there a C&C 2? Or was that TS?
The Infinite Dunes
11-02-2007, 19:42
What I don't understand is, Why call it Command & Conquer 3? The only title with justification for the '3' would be Red Alert Three...but for C&C 3? Was there a C&C 2? Or was that TS?Yes, TS was C&C2. Both C&C and TS are part of the same alternate history (C&C also being known as Tiberian Dawn).
Dephire
11-02-2007, 19:53
That makes more sense.
C&C, TS, C&C 3.

I wish that they had Red Alert 3 out, the supposed true 'Tiberium Dawn'...where tiberium was supposed to be introduced.
The Infinite Dunes
11-02-2007, 20:00
That makes more sense.
C&C, TS, C&C 3.

I wish that they had Red Alert 3 out, the supposed true 'Tiberium Dawn'...where tiberium was supposed to be introduced.Pardon? Tiberium has only been very recently introduced to Earth at the beginning of C&C... piles of money is being poured into research about the stuff. The Einstein-esque professor being a certain chappy called Moebius.
Dephire
11-02-2007, 20:09
From the article I had read, Red Alert 3 (had it been continued) was supposed to be the title of which Tiberium made it's first appearance as the form of a large asteroid that collided with Earth.
Granthor
11-02-2007, 20:14
I didn't get Generals for ages, I was a big RA and RA2 fan. But when I did get it as part of an anthology it just bored me. I had no sense of atmosphere or purpose. I'm probably in a minority here, but I like to almost roleplay my strategy games, I do it with things like the Total War games, and I liked having those movies between missions to give me some idea of what I was fighting for. As opposed to Generals, where all three campaigns just seemed like a series of randomly generated scenarios. "We'll start you off here, and now we're going to drop you over here, look some terrorists! Ok, they're gone, time to drop you over here for no good reason. Oh no, wait. Some more terrorists."

Replying to someone earlier, I hadn't realised they'd edited RA2? I've got the old version where the statue gets blown up in the intro. That's just silly.

And on C&C3, well it has aliens in it. Aliens with tripods. How can I resist murmuring "Ullaaaaaaa..." if I ever play it... ;)
Dephire
11-02-2007, 20:54
That's how I felt with Generals as well.
With TS, RA, RA2, and C&C I had a connection with my troops.

"FOR KANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

*Soldiers charge to their deaths in one large epic push for Kane.*
ReaperXXII
11-02-2007, 23:44
I didn't get Generals for ages, I was a big RA and RA2 fan. But when I did get it as part of an anthology it just bored me. I had no sense of atmosphere or purpose. I'm probably in a minority here, but I like to almost roleplay my strategy games, I do it with things like the Total War games, and I liked having those movies between missions to give me some idea of what I was fighting for. As opposed to Generals, where all three campaigns just seemed like a series of randomly generated scenarios. "We'll start you off here, and now we're going to drop you over here, look some terrorists! Ok, they're gone, time to drop you over here for no good reason. Oh no, wait. Some more terrorists."



That's exactly the same way with me. I got Generals a couple of years back, and I just got bored with it. Not because of the game itself (which really isn't that bad), but because it really doesn't share any correlation with any of the other C&C games.

I know that Red Alert really had no correlation with the original Command & Conquer, but at least that had some CHARACTER in it (though it was kinda fun to be playing an alternate WWII).

Also, replying to someone else: The best way to view the C&C Universe is to view it as three series: The Tiberium Universe (C&C, TS, Renegade and C&C3), The Red Alert Universe (RA and RA2) and the Generals Universe (Generals).

I hope to hell we don't see a sequel to the latter...
Northern Borders
12-02-2007, 00:55
Tiberium Sun has nothing to do with the original C&C. They have very diferent structures.

The original one had a conflict between the Hand of Nod (terrorists) and the GDI (good guys), mainly fighting over a new ressource called tiberium.

Red Alert was an alternate reality where Hitler was killed, and Nazism never rose in Germany. But, since germany never atacked Russia, the URSS became powerfull and started atacking west. So, its the alies against Russia.
Dephire
12-02-2007, 01:13
Tiberium Sun has nothing to do with the original C&C. They have very diferent structures.

The original one had a conflict between the Hand of Nod (terrorists) and the GDI (good guys), mainly fighting over a new ressource called tiberium.

Red Alert was an alternate reality where Hitler was killed, and Nazism never rose in Germany. But, since germany never atacked Russia, the URSS became powerfull and started atacking west. So, its the alies against Russia.

Tiberium Sun was related to the original C&C...
The Infinite Dunes
12-02-2007, 01:14
From the article I had read, Red Alert 3 (had it been continued) was supposed to be the title of which Tiberium made it's first appearance as the form of a large asteroid that collided with Earth.Oh... interesting. I'm fighting an urge to call it a money spinning gimmick though.

my geeky note to everyone else. The green stuff is called 'Tiberium', but the game was called 'Tiberian Sun'. Don't ask me why.
Dephire
12-02-2007, 01:27
Oh... interesting. I'm fighting an urge to call it a money spinning gimmick though.

my geeky note to everyone else. The green stuff is called 'Tiberium', but the game was called 'Tiberian Sun'. Don't ask me why.

The 'Tiberium Sun' was that neat little sphere...
ReaperXXII
12-02-2007, 05:41
Tiberium Sun has nothing to do with the original C&C. They have very diferent structures.

The original one had a conflict between the Hand of Nod (terrorists) and the GDI (good guys), mainly fighting over a new ressource called tiberium.

Red Alert was an alternate reality where Hitler was killed, and Nazism never rose in Germany. But, since germany never atacked Russia, the URSS became powerfull and started atacking west. So, its the alies against Russia.


Tiberian Sun is the SEQUEL to the original C&C. It continues the story between NOD and GDI. Storywise, it takes place I think 30 years after the original game, hence = different structures, different units etc.

In regards to Red Alert, it takes place BEFORE the original C&C. Go type in "Red Alert Soviet Ending" on YouTube and you'll understand why...
Dephire
13-02-2007, 00:54
Tiberian Sun is the SEQUEL to the original C&C. It continues the story between NOD and GDI. Storywise, it takes place I think 30 years after the original game, hence = different structures, different units etc.

In regards to Red Alert, it takes place BEFORE the original C&C. Go type in "Red Alert Soviet Ending" on YouTube and you'll understand why...

I know...:p
Dephire
17-03-2007, 23:13
Well, it's coming out in nine days. So far, I'm a bit disappointed in some of the features. Anyone else?