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Mace, CS, Pepperspray?

Heretichia
09-11-2006, 09:50
Mace, CS, Pepperspray?

Just bought a can of CS for my girlfriend, it's illegal here in Sweden and it's about as serious as carrying a hunting knife in public but what the hell, better than getting raped.

Anyhow, anyone got maced? I got exposed to it in my military service but that was military grade CS flares and I don't really wanna experience anything of the sort again. Anyone know how effective this civil stuff is?
Big Jim P
09-11-2006, 10:00
Mace, CS, Pepperspray?

Just bought a can of CS for my girlfriend, it's illegal here in Sweden and it's about as serious as carrying a hunting knife in public but what the hell, better than getting raped.

Anyhow, anyone got maced? I got exposed to it in my military service but that was military grade CS flares and I don't really wanna experience anything of the sort again. Anyone know how effective this civil stuff is?

I got maced in middle school. Hurt like Hell. I wish I could have got the bastard that did it. Unfortunately they kicked him out of school.
Wiztopia
09-11-2006, 10:00
http://www.kefkasrevenge.net/Kegfarms/images/My%20Pictures/My%20Pictures/Mace.jpg

I like mace. :p
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 10:06
I got maced in middle school. Hurt like Hell. I wish I could have got the bastard that did it. Unfortunately they kicked him out of school.

Yeah, the military grade shit was pretty bad, felt like deepthroating a cactus and getting the cactusload(if there ever was such a thing) in my eyes...
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 10:07
http://www.kefkasrevenge.net/Kegfarms/images/My%20Pictures/My%20Pictures/Mace.jpg

I like mace. :p


Fuck the little CS can! I'm getting one of those for her... no one will fuck with her then! (except me, but that's a different story:P)
Big Jim P
09-11-2006, 10:11
Yeah, the military grade shit was pretty bad, felt like deepthroating a cactus and getting the cactusload(if there ever was such a thing) in my eyes...

Meh. CSi s no worse than cigarette smoke in your eyes.
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 10:15
Meh. CSi s no worse than cigarette smoke in your eyes.

Ehm... seeing as I'm a smoker and tasted both I would say that you must be awfully sensitive to smoke hehe... the stuff they made us stand in felt like vinegar in your eyes... not a very plesant day.
New Greensland
09-11-2006, 10:30
CS is not very good for self-defense, you know. If i were you, i'd get her some OC...Or you could get her a taser...Been tased AND maced on training, both are equally terrible if you ask me.
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 10:47
CS is not very good for self-defense, you know. If i were you, i'd get her some OC...Or you could get her a taser...Been tased AND maced on training, both are equally terrible if you ask me.

Now... what's OC? Tasers are awfully hard to get here in Sweden, even the police have had trouble getting their hands on some air tasers... they seem to prefer hollow point rounds :P Thought about pepperspray but it seems to be harder to aim than a cloud of spray? My thoughts are more around if she get wrestled down and fill the bastards face with CS, that's usually pretty incapacitating, no?
Colerica
09-11-2006, 11:02
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/smithandwesson/modelsw40p.jpg
Lunatic Goofballs
09-11-2006, 11:06
Maced. Stun gunned. Tasered. I've even been knocked out with a frying pan. :(
Big Jim P
09-11-2006, 11:15
Ehm... seeing as I'm a smoker and tasted both I would say that you must be awfully sensitive to smoke hehe... the stuff they made us stand in felt like vinegar in your eyes... not a very plesant day.

More like insensitive to CS. In basic training we did the cs gas chamber. I had no prob with it. We did tell some soldiers that hadn't went through it yet that four of us died though. *evil grin*
Big Jim P
09-11-2006, 11:16
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/smithandwesson/modelsw40p.jpg

Seconded. A Para-Ordinance P-14 for preference though.

Maced. Stun gunned. Tasered. I've even been knocked out with a frying pan. :(

LG the Immortal!:D
Harlesburg
09-11-2006, 12:38
Mace, CS, Pepperspray?

Just bought a can of CS for my girlfriend, it's illegal here in Sweden and it's about as serious as carrying a hunting knife in public but what the hell, better than getting raped.

Anyhow, anyone got maced? I got exposed to it in my military service but that was military grade CS flares and I don't really wanna experience anything of the sort again. Anyone know how effective this civil stuff is?
Mace just makes me hornier.;)
Ifreann
09-11-2006, 12:42
Maced. Stun gunned. Tasered. I've even been knocked out with a frying pan. :(
Did you chase on of the squirrels into a neighbours garden?
Mace just makes me hornier.;)

Ahahahahaha
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:04
Maced. Stun gunned. Tasered. I've even been knocked out with a frying pan. :(

What is it they say... to make an omelett you have to knock some eggs?

Seriously LG, how is it even possible to be abused in all of the above ways? Unless you work in the testing dept. at Nonlethal Defence Inc. that is...
But I guess we're lucky to still have you around atleast:)
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:05
More like insensitive to CS. In basic training we did the cs gas chamber. I had no prob with it. We did tell some soldiers that hadn't went through it yet that four of us died though. *evil grin*

That's not very nice... hahaha:D
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:06
http://www.gunshopfinder.com/smithandwesson/modelsw40p.jpg

Hey, we're not even allowed to look at those here in Sweden!
Ifreann
09-11-2006, 13:06
What is it they say... to make an omelett you have to knock some eggs?

Seriously LG, how is it even possible to be abused in all of the above ways? Unless you work in the testing dept. at Nonlethal Defence Inc. that is...
But I guess we're lucky to still have you around atleast:)

He kicks people in the balls for fun, chases squirrels naked, tackles "tackling" bushes, and people, and generally causes mischief whereever he goes. Good old Goofy :D
Harlesburg
09-11-2006, 13:06
http://www.kefkasrevenge.net/Kegfarms/images/My%20Pictures/My%20Pictures/Mace.jpg

I like mace. :p
Now if i was a Psychotic rapist and a woman tried to defend herself with that, what uses could i find for that?:eek:
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:10
Maybe I'll just get her one of these: http://sum1.onreact.com/bilder/FemDefence.jpg

Looks like a tampon but if you push the button with the hole in it... well let's just say a Prince Albert hurts less...
Ifreann
09-11-2006, 13:12
Maybe I'll just get her one of these: http://sum1.onreact.com/bilder/FemDefence.jpg

Looks like a tampon but if you push the button with the hole in it... well let's just say a Prince Albert hurts less...

"Get back you bastard!"*brandishes tampon like device*
"What are you gonna do with thaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAH"


lulz.
Big Jim P
09-11-2006, 13:12
That's not very nice... hahaha:D

People keep mentioning that word "nice". Can somebody please tell me what the hell "nice" means?:D
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:13
He kicks people in the balls for fun, chases squirrels naked, tackles "tackling" bushes, and people, and generally causes mischief whereever he goes. Good old Goofy :D

It's a miracle he's still alive and *ahem* in good health...
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:15
"Get back you bastard!"*brandishes tampon like device*
"What are you gonna do with thaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAH"


lulz.

Well, I imagine a rapist won't be able to continiue just about halfway in atleast :)
If I ever go to an american prison, I'll be sure to keep one in my ass at all times... and possibly one in my throat...
Ifreann
09-11-2006, 13:16
It's a miracle he's still alive and *ahem* in good health...
And that he can continue to knock up Mrs. (Officer)Goofballs.
Well, I imagine a rapist won't be able to continiue just about halfway in atleast :)
If I ever go to an american prison, I'll be sure to keep one in my ass at all times... and possibly one in my throat...

Which would be terrible if it went off accidentally.
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:19
Which would be terrible if it went off accidentally.

Not as terrible as being raped, I would imagine...
Transcendant Pilgrims
09-11-2006, 13:45
Harlesburg:
*Mace pic*
Now if i was a Psychotic rapist and a woman tried to defend herself with that, what uses could i find for that?

Not too many I should think. It's hard to find uses for anything after one's skull has been crushed, and brain liquefied. :headbang: = :confused:
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 13:59
Not too many I should think. It's hard to find uses for anything after one's skull has been crushed, and brain liquefied. :headbang: = :confused:

Excellent point.
Dododecapod
09-11-2006, 17:37
My father was both Maced and Pepper Sprayed during his work as an Ambulance driver and EMT. The Pepper knocked him for a loop, he had to take the rest of the day off, but the Mace just disabled him for a couple of minutes - he could still function, but not sufficiently to treat the patient (a heroin addict in an "altered state of consciousness." Yeah, right.)

I've received CS during basic, but I cheated - I wore full-sclera contact lenses. Worked well.
Ifreann
09-11-2006, 17:40
Not as terrible as being raped, I would imagine...

Might require similar medical treatment afterwards though.
New Xero Seven
09-11-2006, 18:07
Now if i was a Psychotic rapist and a woman tried to defend herself with that, what uses could i find for that?:eek:

She'd prolly try to bonk you over the head first... then you'd be unconscious and/or possibly dead. :)
Free Randomers
09-11-2006, 18:12
DIY Job:

Tabasco Sauce in an Atomiser.

Get THAT in their eyes and see if they still feel like having a go!
OcceanDrive
09-11-2006, 18:15
Maced. Stun gunned. Tasered. I've even been knocked out with a frying pan. :(
Dude.. you gotta stop trying to rape every single girl you see.

:D :D ;) :D
Ice Hockey Players
09-11-2006, 18:15
Arg...closest I've come is getting spicy Buffalo wing sauce in my eyes after wiping my face with sauce all over them. That shit hurts, and you're not expecting it. The wing places around here, on their spiciest wings, actually put warning stickers on the packages for that reason.

But no. i've never been maced. Never been stun-gunned or tasered. Never even been bonked with a frying pan. Worst situation for me was falling down the stairs with a dresser, and I can't remember if I was leading or following.
The Waaaagh
09-11-2006, 18:18
I was exposed to pepper spray once as a kid. My parents were going to buy me a bike, so, all unsuspecting, we walked into this bike store. We were kind of curious as to why nobody else was inside, but the door had an 'open' sign on it.
A few minutes later, one of my parents noticed the smell. 'Course by that point it was too late and I spent the rest of the day in a rather bad mood.
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 19:03
Dude.. you gotta stop trying to rape every single girl you see.

:D :D ;) :D

Hey hey hey... LG can't help that women misinterpret him when he comes running drenched in mud!
New Greensland
09-11-2006, 19:30
By OC i mean pepperspray...
The thing with CS for self-defense is that it's easier for the user to get affected, at least that's what i think. Not to mention that CS may take some longer time to act, and it may not work at all if the attacker is under the influence of drugs.
Now OC is an inflammatory agent. When you get OC'ed, your eyes slam shut and is really friggin' hard to open them, and even if someone does manage to get their eyes open, they won't be able to see because OC causes temporary blindness. Additionally, instant inflammation of the breathing tissues restricts all but life suport breathing.

Source: Anaheim Police Department Manual

Oh, and by taser i don't mean the ones with the probes an all. But one of these. (http://www.kopes.com/stun-guns/stun-guns-400.JPG) They are much better against rapes and all.
Heretichia
09-11-2006, 19:51
By OC i mean pepperspray...
The thing with CS for self-defense is that it's easier for the user to get affected, at least that's what i think. Not to mention that CS may take some longer time to act, and it may not work at all if the attacker is under the influence of drugs.
Now OC is an inflammatory agent. When you get OC'ed, your eyes slam shut and is really friggin' hard to open them, and even if someone does manage to get their eyes open, they won't be able to see because OC causes temporary blindness. Additionally, instant inflammation of the breathing tissues restricts all but life suport breathing.

Source: Anaheim Police Department Manual

Oh, and by taser i don't mean the ones with the probes an all. But one of these. (http://www.kopes.com/stun-guns/stun-guns-400.JPG) They are much better against rapes and all.

Right... but as CS is more of a cloud of vapor than a string, isn't it easier to aim at short distances than OC which(as far as my limited knowledge tells me) is more of a concentrated beam?

Those tasers are the ones I thought about... they own the shit out of almost everything else, but sadly they are so damn illegal here its silly... we don't have the right to protect ourselves here unless we can fight off a druginduced bodybuilder in hand-to-hand combat... shitty system and all that...
Lunatic Goofballs
09-11-2006, 20:41
What is it they say... to make an omelett you have to knock some eggs?

Seriously LG, how is it even possible to be abused in all of the above ways? Unless you work in the testing dept. at Nonlethal Defence Inc. that is...
But I guess we're lucky to still have you around atleast:)

I have evil friends. :p
Lunatic Goofballs
09-11-2006, 20:43
Hey hey hey... LG can't help that women misinterpret him when he comes running drenched in mud!

It's all a misunderstanding. :(
Sarkhaan
09-11-2006, 22:02
civilian grade mace isn't awful...it isn't by any means nice, but you don't want to die. My friends father got me with the police grade stuff...that is much worse.

No matter what, if you have contacts, you're going to be in a world of hurt for quite a while. I got mine out as fast as I could, but the oils that got on my fingers and on the contacts just made it worse. I ended up pouring a gallon of milk over my eyes with the police grade stuff. (mind you, I have really sensitive eyes, but even for those with strong eyes, I can't imagine it being any better)
New Greensland
10-11-2006, 14:49
Right... but as CS is more of a cloud of vapor than a string, isn't it easier to aim at short distances than OC which(as far as my limited knowledge tells me) is more of a concentrated beam?

Not really, just get her one of the 'fogger' types, which have a wider agled spray. These also have CS on them, so you get the best of all worlds.
Ifreann
10-11-2006, 14:58
I have evil friends. :p

Beats having evil enemies *nods*
Heretichia
10-11-2006, 15:13
Beats having evil enemies *nods*

You sure about that? Evil enemies you usually keep at an arms lenght atleast... with those friends... you just never know when they might turn around and slap you with a trout, or frying pan... *brrr*
Ifreann
10-11-2006, 15:15
You sure about that? Evil enemies you usually keep at an arms lenght atleast... with those friends... you just never know when they might turn around and slap you with a trout, or frying pan... *brrr*

Well evil friends are less likely to kill you. On purpose.
Heretichia
10-11-2006, 15:24
Well evil friends are less likely to kill you. On purpose.

Purpose is overrated... as LG clearly has shown :)