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Here's what happened. I was at the library today, when two mentally incapacitated people of Latin American descent (being politically correct here) came up to me and decided to start harassing me for no good reason. So they kept saying things like "Yo momma sucked my dick last night, foo'". I kept ignoring them. So then they decided that they would get my attention in some other way. So one of them decided to throw a punch at me.

That's when things got interesting. Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that. I nearly broke his arm. After that, they ran away from me, one of them holding his near-broken arm.

My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?

are you looking for a cookie with this post? because you aren't getting one.

Natural selection at work.

Just watch your back. Nowadays petty revenge seems to be an acceptable rationale for violence.

It's called 'adrenaline', it makes you react in self-defence. The speed depends on your reflexes and ability to quickly assess the situation and make a gut reaction decision.

are you looking for a cookie with this post? because you aren't getting one.

Oh come on, don't be an asshole. I really am scared. I don't want to hurt anybody.

It's called 'adrenaline', it makes you react in self-defence. The speed depends on your reflexes and ability to quickly assess the situation and make a gut reaction decision.

Yeah, but I mean, it's never happened to me before. And I don't want it to happen again. I don't want to have to hurt anybody.

Masturbate. It always relieves violent tension. :)

Oh come on, don't be an asshole. I really am scared. I don't want to hurt anybody.

Then don't. Doi.

Oh come on, don't be an asshole. I really am scared. I don't want to hurt anybody.

If you're defending yourself against an attack with your own strength and not with a weapon, you're not out of line. It's considered 'reasonable' force because you replied with the same type of physical violence. They threw a punch, you used your hands to defend yourself.

Oh come on, don't be an asshole. I really am scared. I don't want to hurt anybody.

ROFL! Alright heres what you do champ, register your fists as deadly weapons with the cops. Go.

Yeah, but I mean, it's never happened to me before. And I don't want it to happen again. I don't want to have to hurt anybody.
It may never happen again. As long as you keep your cool, you'll be fine. You have no control over the rest of the assholes in the world. Consider your reflxes a gift as long as you use it to defend yourself.

Here's what happened. I was at the library today, when two mentally incapacitated people of Latin American descent (being politically correct here) came up to me and decided to start harassing me for no good reason. So they kept saying things like "Yo momma sucked my dick last night, foo'". I kept ignoring them. So then they decided that they would get my attention in some other way. So one of them decided to throw a punch at me.

That's when things got interesting. Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that. I nearly broke his arm. After that, they ran away from me, one of them holding his near-broken arm.

My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?
Heh... been bitten by any radioactive spiders lately?

Here's what happened. I was at the library today, when two mentally incapacitated people of Latin American descent (being politically correct here) came up to me and decided to start harassing me for no good reason. So they kept saying things like "Yo momma sucked my dick last night, foo'". I kept ignoring them. So then they decided that they would get my attention in some other way. So one of them decided to throw a punch at me.

That's when things got interesting. Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that. I nearly broke his arm. After that, they ran away from me, one of them holding his near-broken arm.

My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?

make an appointment with a psychiatrist or go to the anger management classes.

Violence is not the answer

He threw a punch at you, you definetely had the right to pin the dudes arm behind his back, hell I think you handled the situation quite well.

ROFL! Alright heres what you do champ, register your fists as deadly weapons with the cops. Go.

If you're not going to give me any advice, out.

I'm not saying I'm Superman. I'm saying I did something I had no idea I was physically capable of, and I'm scared I might do it again and seriously harm someone.

Here's what happened.

you were attacked and you defended.

you restrained him without damaging him.

Adrenaline is a wonderful drug.



now, what you missed. You showed alot of restraint. you waited till he threw the punch before reacting.

you did NOT break his arm.

you let him go when the threat was over.

you showed all the control you needed to make sure you won't needlessly hurt anyone. :cool:

If you're not going to give me any advice, out.

I'm not saying I'm Superman. I'm saying I did something I had no idea I was physically capable of, and I'm scared I might do it again and seriously harm someone.
If you do it again, as long as it is in self-dense, you needn't worry about doing serious harm because if you were attacked, you have a right to defend yourself.

It may never happen again. As long as you keep your cool, you'll be fine. You have no control over the rest of the assholes in the world. Consider your reflxes a gift as long as you use it to defend yourself.

Yeah, but I mean, what if I can't control it? What if I actually break his arm? What if I kill him? I don't want to do either. I'm just saying that since I did something I had absolutely no idea I could do, who knows what else I could do...

liberal snippingI jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. I nearly broke his arm.

Am I the only one who finds this highly unlikely? I mean, it takes a lot of force to snap someone's elbow that way, and lil' Naliitr here does it within a few seconds?

Well, at least nothing bad will happen to you when someone attempts to mug you in an alleyway! :)

make an appointment with a psychiatrist or go to the anger management classes.

Violence is not the answer

Ok, that's good. Now GIVE me some advice instead of telling me to go to people who will give me advice.

Yeah, but I mean, what if I can't control it? What if I actually break his arm? What if I kill him? I don't want to do either. I'm just saying that since I did something I had absolutely no idea I could do, who knows what else I could do...

There's nothing you can do to stave off an adrenaline rush, you felt threatened, and your instincts took over.

I would suggest walking away from aggressive assholes.

Am I the only one who finds this highly unlikely? I mean, it takes a lot of force to snap someone's elbow that way, and lil' Naliitr here does it within a few seconds?

That's what I'm saying. I have absolutely no fucking idea how I did that. I'm still doubting it even happened. I just can't believe I did that. I'm concerned about it.

Yeah, but I mean, it's never happened to me before. And I don't want it to happen again. I don't want to have to hurt anybody.
and you didn't hurt anyone. if anything, you gave them a dose of hard reality.

"Act like a big dog and you'll run into a bigger dog."

Am I the only one who finds this highly unlikely? I mean, it takes a lot of force to snap someone's elbow that way, and lil' Naliitr here does it within a few seconds?

If you're trained in martial arts it is possible.

There's nothing you can do to stave off an adrenaline rush, you felt threatened, and your instincts took over.

I would suggest walking away from aggressive assholes.

I would've... But none of the other computers were open. I was in the kiddie section though, so it wasn't a big scene since that place is already loud as hell. Nobody really noticed.

Am I the only one who finds this highly unlikely? I mean, it takes a lot of force to snap someone's elbow that way, and lil' Naliitr here does it within a few seconds?

Nope, you aren't the only one. :D

Am I the only one who finds this highly unlikely? I mean, it takes a lot of force to snap someone's elbow that way, and lil' Naliitr here does it within a few seconds?

not really. if they're in the middle of throwing a punch, the arm is not braced to be redirected like that. sounds like what naliitr did was a classic Judo move of redirecting force. he threw the person off balance and used that moment to swing the arm to a pinning posistion. the right amount of pressure on the right spot will have the elbow folding without breaking.

;)

If you're trained in martial arts it is possible.

Whereas, if you're not trained, it's physically impossible to break someone's arm? :confused:

That's what I'm saying. I have absolutely no fucking idea how I did that. I'm still doubting it even happened. I just can't believe I did that. I'm concerned about it.

what you should be concerned is that they don't come back... with friends. ;)
(just ribbing you.)

not really. if they're in the middle of throwing a punch, the arm is not braced to be redirected like that. sounds like what naliitr did was a classic Judo move of redirecting force. he threw the person off balance and used that moment to swing the arm to a pinning posistion. the right amount of pressure on the right spot will have the elbow folding without breaking.

;)

AHEM:

I nearly broke his arm.

If you're trained in martial arts it is possible.

But I'm not...

And if you read the phobia thread...

To clear it up, when I said that I was going to "Show them unrestrained horror", I was actually just trying to umm...

How can I say this without it sounding incredibly fucking strange?

Umm...

Psychically induce fear into them...

Didn't work, needless to say.

AHEM:

That's just what I think. For all I know I came no where near to breaking it. But as far as I could tell it was close to the breaking point. But adrenaline was in my veins at that moment, so who knows.

It was justified, and quite possible with all that adrenaline. Don't worry about hurting people if they're trying to hurt you first. If they try it again, hurt them more.

AHEM:

if you read my post, I said there are pressure points that would fold the elbow without breaking the arm.

But I'm not...

And if you read the phobia thread...

To clear it up, when I said that I was going to "Show them unrestrained horror", I was actually just trying to umm...

How can I say this without it sounding incredibly fucking strange?

Umm...

Psychically induce fear into them...

Didn't work, needless to say.

You're not gonna scare people saying stupid things like that.

Calm down.

It isn't like you attacked someone because they looked at you the wrong way. You were about to be hit, and you responded in kind. It's how you SHOULD have responded. Seriously - good job. Now, here's what you do now. You report them. I don't know if you're in school, or what - but report this incident and any future ones to the proper people.

It works for me. Alot.

oooh the old reaction thing everyone gets it (albeit not enough IMHO) and you look very cool when doing it!

Don’t worry you won’t kill anyone people are surprisingly bad at dying or getting seriously hurt also I suggest doing allot more than bending someone’s arm when they insult your mother and throw a punch

Naliitr master of the library!!!

oooh the old reaction thing everyone gets it (albeit not enough IMHO) and you look very cool when doing it!

Don’t worry you won’t kill anyone people are surprisingly bad at dying or getting seriously hurt also I suggest doing allot more than bending someone’s arm when they insult your mother and throw a punch

Naliitr master of the library!!!two points...


one, it was in the library... and like the silence that is the library, he did it quietly and with the air of being calm...


two, it was in the kiddie section... can you imagine the kids watching this happen?

Naliitr, the Librarianator! :D

reminds me of a time someone in grade school was bullying me (I was a favorite target) - all I remember is him talking shit while coming at me and then all of a sudden he was on the ground holding his nuts or stomach as I stood there confused as to what happened and then waslking away as the bell rang.

There was another time I was challeneged to a fight by a friend! he made some new friends and during a mutual class he was talking shit about me to get some laughs from them so I said something about how I caught him masturbating with his brother and moded (i love that word) him big time. So after class he followed me and wanted to fight but I turned my back and walked away. He jumped on my back and then the next thing I knew I was on top of him beating his face in and people were pullign me off of him sayign teh teacher was coming. WE had the next class together and he was quiet and wouldnt look at me or anything. The next day he wasnt there... his mom pulled him out of that school.

Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that.
My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?
A natural defensive reflex while pumped up on adrenaline (weeeee).
Nothing unusual there.

Be glad that you could solve the situation as easily as you did. That is the important part!

reminds me of a time someone in grade school was bullying me (I was a favorite target) - all I remember is him talking shit while coming at me and then all of a sudden he was on the ground holding his nuts or stomach as I stood there confused as to what happened and then waslking away as the bell rang.

There was another time I was challeneged to a fight by a friend! he made some new friends and during a mutual class he was talking shit about me to get some laughs from them so I said something about how I caught him masturbating with his brother and moded (i love that word) him big time. So after class he followed me and wanted to fight but I turned my back and walked away. He jumped on my back and then the next thing I knew I was on top of him beating his face in and people were pullign me off of him sayign teh teacher was coming. WE had the next class together and he was quiet and wouldnt look at me or anything. The next day he wasnt there... his mom pulled him out of that school.reminds me of something my parents told me once.

the only time I started a fight was when a bully was picking on another kid. they said they were told that I pinned the kid up against the wall (lifted him off the ground) and told him, not to bother anyone again else I would be mad, then I let him go.

Funny thing is, I don't recall ever doing that, and it was during my early elementary school years. 1st grade I believe... but they insisted that it happened.

reminds me of something my parents told me once.

the only time I started a fight was when a bully was picking on another kid. they said they were told that I pinned the kid up against the wall (lifted him off the ground) and told him, not to bother anyone again else I would be mad, then I let him go.

Funny thing is, I don't recall ever doing that, and it was during my early elementary school years. 1st grade I believe... but they insisted that it happened.
I like a strong sense of justice in kids.

reminds me of something my parents told me once.

the only time I started a fight was when a bully was picking on another kid. they said they were told that I pinned the kid up against the wall (lifted him off the ground) and told him, not to bother anyone again else I would be mad, then I let him go.

Funny thing is, I don't recall ever doing that, and it was during my early elementary school years. 1st grade I believe... but they insisted that it happened.

my new hero!

you should have been around when I was in school.

Welcome to the joys of joint manipulation. All sorts of fun locks can be done with minimal strength.

Honestly, though. I'm amazed that you happened to get the technique exactly right that he wasn't able to pull out of it while you were pinning his arm, and that you didn't break it. You got it right to that perfect middle point. Well done.

And reading some other replies, I'm amazed how similar a lot of my experiences are, as far as the few "fights" I've been in. You don't really think, you react. The people who think are the ones who get hit, so they tend to foget the whole thing anyway. After I've dropped out of the zone, though, I tend to remember more or less what happened. Like one time, I was walking down the hall, and I saw a guy I knew from one of my classes getting picked on. Now, I didn't really like this guy much, but picking on somebody weaker than you is cowardly and it disgusts me. So I told the guy to lay off. He whirls around and throws a punch at me. Instead of doing some "normal" block, I simply flip my textbook I was carrying to use as a shield. His fist hits it, and I then redirect his arm aside and shove the book into his face.
Everyone was all "oooh, fight!" but I just looked him in the eye. He decided not to continue. I'm glad. I don't like hurting people.

Anyway, the point is, don't worry about it. You probably won't hurt anybody unless they deserve it.

*wonders how many of the fight stories on this thread are BS, decides to share one*

I got into an argument with some black kid in middle school. He threw a punch, and after a few blows, I clinched him. After a few seconds of struggling, we sprawled and he landed up on top, past my guard. For about 20 seconds (and it felt a lot longer), this black kid, at least 30 lbs heavier than me, dropped bombs on my face and neck. Security finally showed up, I got suspended for instigating the fight, the other kid got sent back to class, and I ended up with a pair of black eyes and split lips.

Ah, those were the days.

Oh come on, don't be an asshole. I really am scared. I don't want to hurt anybody.

You should probably take a martial art, say Judo or Karate, something like that. They not only teach you how to defend yourself, they teach you how to do it without doing any more harm than is absolutely necessary. There is a whole code, called Bushido, that goes along with a properly run dojo. It teaches self-control and mastery of emotion (how Spock-like). If you really don't want to hurt anyone and want to prevent anyone from hurting you, I really do recommend a martial art.

If you're not going to give me any advice, out.

I'm not saying I'm Superman. I'm saying I did something I had no idea I was physically capable of, and I'm scared I might do it again and seriously harm someone.

I know the feeling. A long time ago, when my brother and I were younger and considerably more prone to fighting, he punched me in the jaw, and I responded by lifting him up over my head and slamming him down onto a nearby table. I didn't realize what I had done until after that.

And I've been concerned ever since that to avoid hurting people. So I focused more on my martial arts training, particularly the ways to incapacitate without causing a lot of damage. It has helped immensely.

Here's what happened. I was at the library today, when two mentally incapacitated people of Latin American descent (being politically correct here) came up to me and decided to start harassing me for no good reason. So they kept saying things like "Yo momma sucked my dick last night, foo'". I kept ignoring them. So then they decided that they would get my attention in some other way. So one of them decided to throw a punch at me.

That's when things got interesting. Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that. I nearly broke his arm. After that, they ran away from me, one of them holding his near-broken arm.

My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?

I myself suffer from what are loosely termed as "anger issues", but from reading your post I'd say you just had an adrenaline surge from an unprovoked attack. If your really that worried then see someone. I use yoga to keep myself calm, I find the breathing techniques immensely helpful. It also aids self discipline and aerobic fitness.

anger management

same here ollie i have what tthey call anger management isssues (i cant cant controll my temper)

it sounds like an epeenrphrine surge asl known as adrelilnine

anger management

same here ollie i have what tthey call anger management isssues (i cant cant controll my temper)

it sounds like an epeenrphrine surge asl known as adrelilnine

Well I'm told its just because I'm slightly mental :headbang:

Here's what happened. I was at the library today, when two mentally incapacitated people of Latin American descent (being politically correct here) came up to me and decided to start harassing me for no good reason. So they kept saying things like "Yo momma sucked my dick last night, foo'". I kept ignoring them. So then they decided that they would get my attention in some other way. So one of them decided to throw a punch at me.

That's when things got interesting. Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that. I nearly broke his arm. After that, they ran away from me, one of them holding his near-broken arm.

My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?

I understand completely as such events have happened to me on more than one occasion. Anger management never really helped either, the best you can do is find a release valve (personally, I toss my room and get irrationally angry at strangers on the internet, but whatever works for you) and only act in self defense

Anger management never really helped either, the best you can do is find a release valve (personally, I toss my room and get irrationally angry at strangers on the internet, but whatever works for you) and only act in self defense

That seems to be a fairly common release valve for many people.

what can I say? It works! Just don't do it on forums you regularly frequent.

what can I say? It works! Just don't do it on forums you regularly frequent.

I don't do it on any forums, really. I have a punching bag and very violent video games for my release valves.

Next time, do what monkeys do: Whoop loudly and fling your own faeces at them.

Here's what happened. I was at the library today, when two mentally incapacitated people of Latin American descent (being politically correct here) came up to me and decided to start harassing me for no good reason. So they kept saying things like "Yo momma sucked my dick last night, foo'". I kept ignoring them. So then they decided that they would get my attention in some other way. So one of them decided to throw a punch at me.

That's when things got interesting. Without thinking, and I mean I didn't even think at all about this, I jumped out of my chair, grabbed his hand, and pinned it against his back. Now I had absolutely no idea I was physically capable of such a feat. But somehow I did do that. I nearly broke his arm. After that, they ran away from me, one of them holding his near-broken arm.

My problem is that I really don't think that I'm physically capable of that. I really don't think I should be able to do that. It scares me actually. I don't want to like, accidently hurt someone too much if my adrenaline kicks in again...

Any advice on how to control my violent urges, NSG?
Stop wasting time. Defend yourself within reason, but never strike out at others for anything but that.

If you're not going to give me any advice, out.

I'm not saying I'm Superman. I'm saying I did something I had no idea I was physically capable of, and I'm scared I might do it again and seriously harm someone.
Was your attacker anywherre near being "seriously harmed"? I doubt it. As long as you don't try the same trick on say, children, everything will be fine. You're worrying over nothing.

You should probably take a martial art, say Judo or Karate, something like that. They not only teach you how to defend yourself, they teach you how to do it without doing any more harm than is absolutely necessary. There is a whole code, called Bushido, that goes along with a properly run dojo. It teaches self-control and mastery of emotion (how Spock-like). If you really don't want to hurt anyone and want to prevent anyone from hurting you, I really do recommend a martial art.

That's not true. Bushido is the way of the samurai, and it teaches honor. It has nothing to do with running a dojo, unless you're teaching Bushido. Plus, dojo is the Japanese term for Japanese art forms. Not all martial arts schools are "dojos". And martial arts don't all teach you how to not harm the other person. For example, Kung Fu was made to hurt the other person as badly as possible.

For future reference.

Were your assailants also cheerleaders?

*wonders how many of the fight stories on this thread are BS, decides to share one*

I got into an argument with some black kid in middle school. He threw a punch, and after a few blows, I clinched him. After a few seconds of struggling, we sprawled and he landed up on top, past my guard. For about 20 seconds (and it felt a lot longer), this black kid, at least 30 lbs heavier than me, dropped bombs on my face and neck. Security finally showed up, I got suspended for instigating the fight, the other kid got sent back to class, and I ended up with a pair of black eyes and split lips.

Ah, those were the days.

We're sharing fight stories? Ok. This was many years ago. I was maybe twenty or so.

One time three of my friends and I took a bus to Camden to see Jimmy Buffet at what's now called the "Tweeter Center". We were drinking on the bus and I was pretty well trashed when we got there. The bus parked in one of the lots and we had to walk a few blocks to the concert. I had tucked my pocket knife into my boot to keep security from finding it. As we walked to the concert one of my friends, Tim, got harassed by a ticket scalper. He charged at the scalper, who ran. Now Tim's chasing one scalper and one of the scalper's friends decides to come after me.

I'm pretty trashed and I see this guy coming at me. I'm comically hopping on one leg while trying to extract the knife from my other boot. Luckily it had slipped in pretty deep and I gave up on trying to draw my knife. The guy got close enough to land two punches on the side of my head. No big deal, I've got a really hard head. As I started throwing punches back he sort of did a "bob and weave" thing and I was able to grab the back of his neck to keep him from getting upright again. I then started to throw uppercuts into his face and body. I heard police sirens, so I let go of him and he went down. Later on my buddy Don who had witnessed the whole thing said I landed one uppercut into the guy's body so hard his feet came up off the ground. I don't remember that because I was pretty fucking drunk.

Curbing your anger takes years to accomplish, and many painful trials. I would know. Or I'm just a massichist.

Later on my buddy Don who had witnessed the whole thing said I landed one uppercut into the guy's body so hard his feet came up off the ground.

I hit a guy who attacked me in a bar like that, which was lucky as he was huge and psychotic so I wouldn't have had a chance to make a second punch. He flew right off his feet and landed out cold on his back.